Fireproof safe recommendation

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vas
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Fireproof safe recommendation

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Looking for a small fireproof safe for estate plan, will, and other documents. Doesn't need to be particularly "safe" as it will only hold papers. Any suggestions?
barnaclebob
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There are specifications for fireproofing on safes. Find one that meets your needs.

Many of them use fireproofing that gives off moisture, so assume your papers will get wet unless you put them in something waterproof.
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Look for something UL-rated, sized for your needs. UL Class 350 certification is appropriate for paper materials. More expensive and heavier safes typically provide protection for longer periods of time.

FireKing, SentrySafe, and other brands can meet your needs; their websites will disclose sellers of their products.
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Nestegg_User
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see https://www.acmelocksmith.com/blog/safe ... explained/

try for a 60 minute or higher 350 rating
a fire department, or even volunteer fire crew, would likely be able to get to and start fighting a smaller fire

Now, the one in CO on dec 30... no luck with any safe being able to protect the contents over that period (there were some buildings still burning on the second day)
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https://gardall.com/

Buy from local distributor - not Amazon. Buy Made in USA. If small safe, bolt down (can be DIY if you are handy). If you need delivery always use a licensed locksmith (they are subject to background check).
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I would steer clear of Sentry and cheap Honeywell safes. Lots of articles online about how they aren't very fireproof, despite the ads. Honeywell does makes some higher end file boxes that have good UL ratings for fire. They have gold colored latches.

Look for something that is also waterproof. If fire doesn't destroy the documents, water from a fire hose will. Make sure to get desiccant packs to put in there as well.
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NYCaviator wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:57 pm Make sure to get desiccant packs to put in there as well.
Indeed. Moisture in safes is interesting. We have to put one of those big tubs of Damp Rid in ours, or everything is a soggy mess. This is in Southern California, where humidity is generally a nonissue.

Also, the safe is bolted to the floor, and there’s enough moisture that after about a decade, the bolt rusted in place.
Yes, I’m really that pedantic.
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Whatever safe you decide on, I would recommend putting your most important documents in this fire and water resistant pouch inside the safe.
It adds an added layer of protection in case the safe partially fails.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08BPCRWRM?th=1
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Invest in a safe that has some type of dehumidifier feature/capability. Papers and documents will get damaged by mold inside most inexpensive fireproof safes. Google fireproof safe mold issues for more info.
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As a firefighter and insurance loss prevention engineer do NOT install the box in your basement why?? Water from a fire or a leak will ALWAYS find the box. It is amazing what 3’of water on top of the box does to paper. Use a bank safe deposit box at least 3’ off the floor, banks have fires and water leaks to.
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Thanks for the recommendations. I was not aware of the humidity issues so thanks for the heads up there too.
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JackBoglereader21 wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:39 pm https://gardall.com/

Buy from local distributor - not Amazon.
Just curious, what is the advantage of buying from a local distributer for one of the smaller, lighter, safes?
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