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FWIW, I'm over 60 and in all the vehicles I've ever owned, I've never replaced all 4 tires at once. I understand that some AWD require it but that's the exception, not the norm.
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Yes, great deal.
Air them up based on sticker on car unless you changed tire size.
Air them up based on sticker on car unless you changed tire size.
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I wasn't including that in "recent years", since it's been out of production for so long (the consumer variety even longer than the fleet versions.) Maybe fans of the previous-era larger full-sized Fords referred to Panther models as "small commuter vehicles" too.
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That was a good deal.
I'm a life-long car guy, and I never heard of Barum. So I learned something there. It's an old European brand that belongs to Continental.
Use the tire pressure recommended by the car. On the sticker.
I'm a life-long car guy, and I never heard of Barum. So I learned something there. It's an old European brand that belongs to Continental.
Use the tire pressure recommended by the car. On the sticker.
This time is the same
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My rocketship demands a steady diet of high-performance rubber, so I typically pounce on a name-brand discontinued set for roughly 50% off. Bargain tires would most likely explode. Shhh. Don't tell the guys.
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Use the PSI on the door decal. The pressure shown on the tire is normally the maximum allowable, not the pressure for normal use. As a matter of fact, even with heavier than normal loads you would typically never inflate to the maximum pressure.mggray17 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:02 pmThe owner's manual will direct you to the tire decal inside the door. At least the owner's manual explains how to use the information.....Californiastate wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:50 pmYesVanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:55 pmFor PSI?Californiastate wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:37 pm Read your owner’s manual for vehicle specific information.
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FYI, inflating to maximum pressure would often cause abnormally fast treadwear in the center of the tire.
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I drive a lot and one thing I have learned in my life
don't mess around with cheap tires
I always get Michelin tire .. bridgestone is good too
don't mess around with cheap tires
I always get Michelin tire .. bridgestone is good too
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How about General tire? Any good?lazybones18 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:33 pm I drive a lot and one thing I have learned in my life
don't mess around with cheap tires
I always get Michelin tire .. bridgestone is good too
I have replaced all 4s so far. They age out same time. That's what it is.
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General tires are good.Metsfan91 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:39 pmHow about General tire? Any good?lazybones18 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:33 pm I drive a lot and one thing I have learned in my life
don't mess around with cheap tires
I always get Michelin tire .. bridgestone is good too
I have replaced all 4s so far. They age out same time. That's what it is.
You’ll hear a ton of people are hating about Michelin, but I don’t like them. They’re too soft and wear out very fast. All the major brands make fine tires.
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The Czech Republic makes some pretty good stuff usually. The company was bought by Continental in the early '90s. Continental is German fwiw. And that's about all I learned about them standing around tire shops.
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I have always been a fan of Michelin tires also, but they're not the only decent tire out there.
When commuting 25k mi (+15K personal use) per year I went through a lot of tires over the years and tried all different manufacturers.
I found at that time Michelin was my favorite for all the usual factors, ie ride quality, handling, noise, etc.
I put Michelin on my Silverado when I wanted to replace the OEM junk tires. I was warned that Michelin tends to dry rot after several years.
I don't drive it a lot, but after about 30K miles and 10 years they are dry rotted (probably started at 5 years) in the sidewalls, tread, etc.
Going in for some Cooper tires next week.
I have 2012 Camaro SS that had Pirelli's from the factory. These looked brand new due to being garage kept and only about 5K miles on them. Replaced only due to the age of the Pirelli's and the spirited driving of the car. I just put some BF Goodrich's on it. Read many posts in the tires section of the Camaro5 forum and people highly recommended these for this car.
I have a 2017 Buick Lacrosse, that came with Continental tires. When time to replace them I looked at all the usual brands and different model of Continental was highly recommended and have been happy with them.
So while, Michelin has been a favorite of mine, my three most recent purchases did not include them. I thought I went with the best option I could find for each vehicle at the time.
When commuting 25k mi (+15K personal use) per year I went through a lot of tires over the years and tried all different manufacturers.
I found at that time Michelin was my favorite for all the usual factors, ie ride quality, handling, noise, etc.
I put Michelin on my Silverado when I wanted to replace the OEM junk tires. I was warned that Michelin tends to dry rot after several years.
I don't drive it a lot, but after about 30K miles and 10 years they are dry rotted (probably started at 5 years) in the sidewalls, tread, etc.
Going in for some Cooper tires next week.
I have 2012 Camaro SS that had Pirelli's from the factory. These looked brand new due to being garage kept and only about 5K miles on them. Replaced only due to the age of the Pirelli's and the spirited driving of the car. I just put some BF Goodrich's on it. Read many posts in the tires section of the Camaro5 forum and people highly recommended these for this car.
I have a 2017 Buick Lacrosse, that came with Continental tires. When time to replace them I looked at all the usual brands and different model of Continental was highly recommended and have been happy with them.
So while, Michelin has been a favorite of mine, my three most recent purchases did not include them. I thought I went with the best option I could find for each vehicle at the time.
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Right turns are riskier.mhc wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:17 pmThat makes more sense. I thought maybe they were 9 and 6 because you refuse to make left turns and only make right turns. Left turns are way to risky for bogleheads.Vanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:55 pmTire 9 and 6 were not bought at same time and installed.bloom2708 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:38 pm9 and 6 means something is out of alignment or something else is wrong. Never heard of Barum brand tires, but then there are a lot of Chinese tires on the market today. The deal seems "good enough".
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Due to flat tire. Replacement on pro rated. Rotate after 6-8k right?surfstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:15 pmReplaced due to damage / road hazard or due to uneven wear?Vanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:55 pmTire 9 and 6 were not bought at same time and installed.bloom2708 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:38 pm9 and 6 means something is out of alignment or something else is wrong. Never heard of Barum brand tires, but then there are a lot of Chinese tires on the market today. The deal seems "good enough".
So you have 3 different tires on, basically, even if all the same brand and size. I rotate routinely and replace 4 at a time, almost always.
5k mi/year is very low use, so they should be fine.
But for the best deal, you need to time a holiday sale with Discount Tire, a manufacturer's rebate and their CC rebate. You got an okay price due to not being able to time your purchase. Check on their price for black friday, for example...
I use to get new tire because 2 tires were at 3 tread. Rebate only on 4 tires.
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Car sticker shows 33 all tires.mggray17 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:17 pmThe Tire will show the max psi that the tire is rated for. It is not a recommendation for setting the psi. Your car manufacturer knows what the correct psi is for your car with the standard sized tires shown on the placard. Nobody recommends inflating car tires to the max psi on the tire. Use the value on the placard inside the door.Vanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:07 pmSome say go with tires recommendations.baconavocado wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:04 pmThe correct air pressure for your tires should be in your owners manual and on a sticker inside the drivers side door of the car.Vanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:55 pmFor PSI?Californiastate wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:37 pm Read your owner’s manual for vehicle specific information.
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They rebalanced 2 but put the 2 new tires on back for safety. I bought this car used so no way to buy 4 new.RobLyons wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:28 pm
How do you rotate 2 new tires?
For PSI check your owners manual. Usually around 35psi +/- 5psi for these small commuter vehicles.
Also needing to replace just the front tires is usually the result of not rotating tires at recommended intervals. This just happened to me with the wife's vehicle. It's more expensive to buy just 2 tires vs all 4.
Deal sounds ok. I just did 4 new 80k Michelin tires with road hazard warranty, mounted, balanced, etc. from Costco on my Prius for $455 OTD.
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Ford did make the Taurus in 2019, maybe even 2020, but regardless 2019 is recent and its larger than the Fusion.tibbitts wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:24 pmI wasn't including that in "recent years", since it's been out of production for so long (the consumer variety even longer than the fleet versions.) Maybe fans of the previous-era larger full-sized Fords referred to Panther models as "small commuter vehicles" too.
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Excellent point. I had totally forgotten about the Taurus, which I shouldn't have since I rented one for one day in 2019. When I think about that name I think of my '90s Taurus, which of course was a size that the Fusion replaced, not the formerly-500 variety. I remember the 2019 Taurus now because I couldn't find the usb outlet; I'm sure it was there... somewhere.DoubleComma wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:20 pmFord did make the Taurus in 2019, maybe even 2020, but regardless 2019 is recent and its larger than the Fusion.tibbitts wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:24 pmI wasn't including that in "recent years", since it's been out of production for so long (the consumer variety even longer than the fleet versions.) Maybe fans of the previous-era larger full-sized Fords referred to Panther models as "small commuter vehicles" too.
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I used a spray canstoptothink wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:16 pmThat's painting with a pretty broad brush. The only tires I ever recall that I could noticeably tell performed poorly (and they wore faster than expected too), were the Michelin primacy that came stock on my jetta and I've had my fair share of "budget" tires.RCL wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:09 pmOh boy...Vanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:08 pmName brands like Michelin is more expensive. They achieve the same job.
You are correct, Michelin tires are more expensive; for a reason
Maybe something went wrong with your Jetta's alignment? All sorts of reasons for people to have different experiences with the same brand and model of tire. My experience is about 70k miles on the good grade Michelins MXM4's before they start getting a little noisy (but still have a little tread life left). Note...not all Michelin tires are the same. Also note, many tire shops that offer too cheap to believe tire prices will sell the customer tires that do not have the proper load rating for the car. This will contribute to quicker than expected tire wear, plus creates a huge safety problem for the car owner.(tread separation, side-wall blowouts etc.)
You'll read reviews on Tirerack of some people reporting only getting 20k miles on the same tires I get 70k miles on.
What do you think makes the difference?
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I think the difference is generalizations are pointless. Michelin makes some junk tires and some good ones, as does other manufacturers. There were no alignment issues and we noticed a significant improvement when replacing them with a cheaper set of General-brand tires, which have also shown better wear. I am a very conservative driver, do almost all of my own maintenance (including rotations) and those Michelin are the worst I've ever had, but I've had good experience with other Michelins (and countless other tires from other manufacturers). No reason to give Michelin the benefit of the doubt (that it was a one-off bad set) and not others.RCL wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:06 pmI used a spray canstoptothink wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:16 pmThat's painting with a pretty broad brush. The only tires I ever recall that I could noticeably tell performed poorly (and they wore faster than expected too), were the Michelin primacy that came stock on my jetta and I've had my fair share of "budget" tires.RCL wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:09 pmOh boy...Vanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:08 pmName brands like Michelin is more expensive. They achieve the same job.
You are correct, Michelin tires are more expensive; for a reason
Maybe something went wrong with your Jetta's alignment? All sorts of reasons for people to have different experiences with the same brand and model of tire. My experience is about 70k miles on the good grade Michelins MXM4's before they start getting a little noisy (but still have a little tread life left). Note...not all Michelin tires are the same. Also note, many tire shops that offer too cheap to believe tire prices will sell the customer tires that do not have the proper load rating for the car. This will contribute to quicker than expected tire wear, plus creates a huge safety problem for the car owner.(tread separation, side-wall blowouts etc.)
You'll read reviews on Tirerack of some people reporting only getting 20k miles on the same tires I get 70k miles on.
What do you think makes the difference?
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It's classified as a mid size sedan. So not a large sedan. Also not a huge SUV, truck, crossover, etc. Commuter for sure.
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Vanguard User wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:12 pmThey rebalanced 2 but put the 2 new tires on back for safety. I bought this car used so no way to buy 4 new.RobLyons wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:28 pm
How do you rotate 2 new tires?
For PSI check your owners manual. Usually around 35psi +/- 5psi for these small commuter vehicles.
Also needing to replace just the front tires is usually the result of not rotating tires at recommended intervals. This just happened to me with the wife's vehicle. It's more expensive to buy just 2 tires vs all 4.
Deal sounds ok. I just did 4 new 80k Michelin tires with road hazard warranty, mounted, balanced, etc. from Costco on my Prius for $455 OTD.
Ok, keep up on those tire rotations!
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I would classify it as mid size also, although I don't know the official EPA classification. But I disagree that it's primarily a "commuter car"; I'd put it in the general-purpose family sedan category. Now if you'd said a Smart Car was a commuter car, that I'd be more aligned with.
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Also in Japan and a few other places.Marylander1 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:22 pmIn the UK, Australia, and Malta.
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I would have spent more by buying 4. What would I have done with 9 and 6 tread tires?psteinx wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:33 pmAs I said, you'll likely save some across all 4 tires, by replacing 4 at a time, and you'll save time.Vanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:10 pmWhy replace the 9 and 6?psteinx wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:07 pm The thing is:
1) Very often there are tire deals that require purchasing 4 tires at once
2) The process of getting a vehicle to a tire place, selecting tires, and getting them installed, takes time (from the vehicle owner)
The combination of 1 & 2 means, I think, that for many (most?) folks, it's worth replacing all 4, unless maybe the last 2 tires have a LOT of life left in them. I'm not sure if your "9 and 6" are 32nds or mm, but IIRC, in 32nds, the general "you should probably replace this tire" level is about 4, and "you REALLY REALLY should replace this tire" is 2 or 3. So really, only 1 out of your 4 tires had much life left. If it were me, I likely would have replaced all 4...
(And of course, there are further considerations if your vehicle is AWD...)
9/32” and 6/32”.
If you hold the car for a long time (replacing each tire 3-4 times), you'll likely waste time and money if you continue replacing tires in 2sies (or 1sies), versus doing 4 at a time now, and then 4 at a time when they're hopefully ~equally worn a few years from now, and so on.
The main exception should be if a specific tire goes flat because it's punctured or whatever. But if you replace the 1 then, and then you have 3 worn tires a couple years later and 1 that's at 6 or 8 32nds, it's still probably worth replacing all 4.
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So what makes Barum tires not competitive to brand names?azanon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:33 pmDon't be disingenuous to yourself though by convincing yourself they're of the same quality and perform equally to a Michelin. Though there are certainly exceptions, generally speaking, the tire world is the same as most products - you get what you pay for. Only other tier 1 brands can sometimes achieve parity to them.Vanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:08 pmName brands like Michelin is more expensive. They achieve the same job.
Personal opinion - I think it's the worst area of a car to try to save money because that's what connects you to the road.
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Got it.Normchad wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:44 pmThose people are wrong. The people that made those tires don’t know anything about your car. Listen to the people who made your car. https://www.aaa.com/autorepair/articles ... -inflationVanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:07 pmSome say go with tires recommendations.baconavocado wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:04 pmThe correct air pressure for your tires should be in your owners manual and on a sticker inside the drivers side door of the car.Vanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:55 pmFor PSI?Californiastate wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:37 pm Read your owner’s manual for vehicle specific information.
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Californiastate wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:50 pmYesVanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:55 pmFor PSI?Californiastate wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:37 pm Read your owner’s manual for vehicle specific information.
33 it states.
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Barum has been selling at DT for years. I went with consumer reviews. They are $97 tire but got it for $86~.Doctor Rhythm wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:00 pm I think it’s fair to say you paid a low price at < $120 per tire, installed. Name brand tires for your car tend to start around that price without installation, based on a quick look-up at TireRack.com. Whether this was a good deal really depends on how comparable the quality is, which is difficult to gauge objectively. TireRack and places like Consumer Reports have track testing data and enough consumer feedback to demonstrate meaningful differences between models. However, I don’t think they evaluate the low end (small, discount brands) of the market.
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33 it states.mggray17 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:02 pmThe owner's manual will direct you to the tire decal inside the door. At least the owner's manual explains how to use the information.....Californiastate wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:50 pmYesVanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:55 pmFor PSI?Californiastate wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:37 pm Read your owner’s manual for vehicle specific information.
https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford ... bled=False
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My tires are listed as all seasons and performance.sully45 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:03 pmIn general I agree with you. I think if you live in a state where you can drive on summer tires year round its not an unreasonable choice. Compounds and tread design are simpler for summer tires, less to mess up.azanon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:33 pmDon't be disingenuous to yourself though by convincing yourself they're of the same quality and perform equally to a Michelin. Though there are certainly exceptions, generally speaking, the tire world is the same as most products - you get what you pay for. Only other tier 1 brands can sometimes achieve parity to them.Vanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:08 pmName brands like Michelin is more expensive. They achieve the same job.
Personal opinion - I think it's the worst area of a car to try to save money because that's what connects you to the road.
If you live in a state where you need all-Seasons (or you change to winters); I personally wouldn't cheap out on those.
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Name brands are always expensive.RCL wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:09 pmOh boy...Vanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:08 pmName brands like Michelin is more expensive. They achieve the same job.
You are correct, Michelin tires are more expensive; for a reason
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Then why was DT out of stock? Because it’s popular.stoptothink wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:16 pmThat's painting with a pretty broad brush. The only tires I ever recall that I could noticeably tell performed poorly (and they wore faster than expected too), were the Michelin primacy that came stock on my jetta and I've had my fair share of "budget" tires.RCL wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:09 pmOh boy...Vanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:08 pmName brands like Michelin is more expensive. They achieve the same job.
You are correct, Michelin tires are more expensive; for a reason
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What is new old stock? They were probably 5 years old.
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New tires that have been on the rack unsold for several years, maybe in a forgotten corner of the warehouse, then sold to you. Check the mfg date on your tires if in doubt. When I buy new tires I check to make sure they’re of recent manufacture. Rubber ages even if not in use. It could rob you of tire-life.Vanguard User wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:20 pmWhat is new old stock? They were probably 5 years old.
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My first car came with Michelin tires. That's the only time I had Michelin tires. Didn't notice anything special about them. When it was time to get new tires, I replaced Michelin tires with firestone/bridgestone tires.. Currently I am on 2nd set of General tires. I liked how my vehicle performed on General tires. So, when it was time, I replaced them with exact same tires.adestefan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:39 amGeneral tires are good.Metsfan91 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:39 pmHow about General tire? Any good?lazybones18 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:33 pm I drive a lot and one thing I have learned in my life
don't mess around with cheap tires
I always get Michelin tire .. bridgestone is good too
I have replaced all 4s so far. They age out same time. That's what it is.
You’ll hear a ton of people are hating about Michelin, but I don’t like them. They’re too soft and wear out very fast. All the major brands make fine tires.
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Every 6-8k miles?RobLyons wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:17 pmVanguard User wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:12 pmThey rebalanced 2 but put the 2 new tires on back for safety. I bought this car used so no way to buy 4 new.RobLyons wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:28 pm
How do you rotate 2 new tires?
For PSI check your owners manual. Usually around 35psi +/- 5psi for these small commuter vehicles.
Also needing to replace just the front tires is usually the result of not rotating tires at recommended intervals. This just happened to me with the wife's vehicle. It's more expensive to buy just 2 tires vs all 4.
Deal sounds ok. I just did 4 new 80k Michelin tires with road hazard warranty, mounted, balanced, etc. from Costco on my Prius for $455 OTD.
Ok, keep up on those tire rotations!
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Oh ok.Marylander1 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:22 pmIn the UK, Australia, and Malta.
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It was not in stock at DT. It was ordered from Barum to DT. It’s a popular brand at DT.Nicolas wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:24 pmNew tires that have been on the rack unsold for several years, maybe in a forgotten corner of the warehouse, then sold to you. Check the mfg date on your tires if in doubt. When I buy new tires I check to make sure they’re of recent manufacture. Rubber ages even if not in use. It could rob you of tire-life.Vanguard User wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:20 pmWhat is new old stock? They were probably 5 years old.
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General the brand name?Metsfan91 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:49 pmMy first car came with Michelin tires. That's the only time I had Michelin tires. Didn't notice anything special about them. When it was time to get new tires, I replaced Michelin tires with firestone/bridgestone tires.. Currently I am on 2nd set of General tires. I liked how my vehicle performed on General tires. So, when it was time, I replaced them with exact same tires.adestefan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:39 amGeneral tires are good.Metsfan91 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:39 pmHow about General tire? Any good?lazybones18 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:33 pm I drive a lot and one thing I have learned in my life
don't mess around with cheap tires
I always get Michelin tire .. bridgestone is good too
I have replaced all 4s so far. They age out same time. That's what it is.
You’ll hear a ton of people are hating about Michelin, but I don’t like them. They’re too soft and wear out very fast. All the major brands make fine tires.
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Barum and General are both brands owned by Continental Tire. In the USA, Barum seems only to be sold at Discount/America's Tire. When I looked up my size on the Barum website, they have a feature that allows you to pull up the EU sticker for the tire. The type OP bought was not started to be made until the end of 2018. I have had good experiences with about 5 or 6 pairs of General Tires on the family cars the last few years. One Altimax set seemed to wear pretty fast, but that was the exception. I will say most Michelins I have had (or their BF Goodrich Brand) tend to wear even more slowly. These are all all-season tires with 400-600 treadwear ratings.
The Barum do seem like a great deal right now. They are less than 90 dollars for my size, and the slightly better performance General Tire is now $150 at both Tire Rack and Discount Tire. It was about $110 two years ago.
The Barum do seem like a great deal right now. They are less than 90 dollars for my size, and the slightly better performance General Tire is now $150 at both Tire Rack and Discount Tire. It was about $110 two years ago.
Re: Did I get a good deal on tires?
"For safety, tires should be replaced after six years regardless of wear."
I usually get rid of them after 5 years, but the Michelin site says 5 to 10 years and after the first 5 have yearly inspections done by an expert.
I'd post the link but it 6:30 a.m. and it's time to go fishing.
I usually get rid of them after 5 years, but the Michelin site says 5 to 10 years and after the first 5 have yearly inspections done by an expert.
I'd post the link but it 6:30 a.m. and it's time to go fishing.
Re: Did I get a good deal on tires?
Supposedly one benefit of rotation is even wear all around which makes the car brake and steer better, esp. in wet or snowy conditions.UpsetRaptor wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:59 pmOff-topic, but humor a guy who doesn't know anything about cars and probably has an over-sensitive scam detector as he turns into an old curmedgeon.Vanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:57 pmRight. It’s recommended to rotate every 6-8k.azanon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:44 pmIt's not that uncommon, and generally ok if the other two tires have plenty of tread. A common scenario would be someone with a front-wheel drive car that didn't rotate their tires when recommended, so over time the front ones wear much faster than the back ones.
Let's say my shop charges $50 for a tire rotation, and I follow the guidelines and rotate my tires 6 times over their 50k mile life, so I've spent $300 on tire rotations. So they wear evenly, and then when I replace all four tires at once, I get the 4-tire discount of like $80. Is that really more cost effective than just doing no rotations and replacing my front 2 when they're ready, and then doing the back two a year or two later, etc... ?
If you're lucky you're like me and live in a town with a long-established locally-owned tire and auto repair shop (100+ years for my guys) which has prices competitive (within 5% in my experience) with the national chains, but also offers lifetime free rotation and flat repair if you buy tires from them. They even have a free shuttle and free soft drinks and coffee in a very clean, comfortable waiting room.
Re: Did I get a good deal on tires?
If your front tires where 3/32 and the backs where 6/32 and 9/32 that tells me you never rotated your tires. Also, tires degrade with age, not just miles. Once they get over 5-6 years old they start to get hard and loose cold weather traction even if barely driven.
I am going to second the recommendation to replace all 4 and get back into a proper routine of rotating the tires with every oil change.
Re: Did I get a good deal on tires?
I bought my DD a car in Dec of last year, checked the tire tread which looked ok but missed that there was a mismatched tire on her car. Tread depth is not consistent across all 4 tires. Will replace the entire set before she heads off to college next year, car has roughly 22,000 miles now.
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Re: Did I get a good deal on tires?
That is exactly the problem. Its also the reason why I drive Winter tires all year long (in the Northeast). My one winter tire costs me the same as two tire mountings a year (and the same then an extra wheel) - so changing twice a year, after four years I have four new tires, which is roughly how long the tires last. No sense for me to buy summer tires.UpsetRaptor wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:59 pmOff-topic, but humor a guy who doesn't know anything about cars and probably has an over-sensitive scam detector as he turns into an old curmedgeon.Vanguard User wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:57 pmRight. It’s recommended to rotate every 6-8k.azanon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:44 pmIt's not that uncommon, and generally ok if the other two tires have plenty of tread. A common scenario would be someone with a front-wheel drive car that didn't rotate their tires when recommended, so over time the front ones wear much faster than the back ones.
Let's say my shop charges $50 for a tire rotation, and I follow the guidelines and rotate my tires 6 times over their 50k mile life, so I've spent $300 on tire rotations. So they wear evenly, and then when I replace all four tires at once, I get the 4-tire discount of like $80. Is that really more cost effective than just doing no rotations and replacing my front 2 when they're ready, and then doing the back two a year or two later, etc... ?
Now in all fairness, the tire rotation usually also includes a tire balancing and that is useful to prevent damage to other expensive parts on the car. But otherwise, you could just not rotate, wear the front tires out faster (front tires always wear faster because of the steering, even on rear drive cars) and then just replace two tires at a time.
But since the balancing is the expensive part, the rotation is kind of included for 0 dollars anyway.
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