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Post by RevFran » Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:18 pm

Hello all. My car having finally given up the ghost, I am in the market for a new Mazda CX-5, Touring trim. I have priced the car at about 8 different dealers and have gotten pretty widely differing OTD prices -- variation of slightly more than 10%. Any recent CX-5 Touring purchasers out there with a sense of what I ought to be paying?

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Post by CardinalRule » Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:38 pm

You ought to be paying the lowest bid? :P

In all seriousness, we love our 2018 Mazda GT, but it was not a recent purchase. Beware of trade-in games, of course, if you are going that route.
RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:18 pm
Hello all. My car having finally given up the ghost, I am in the market for a new Mazda CX-5, Touring trim. I have priced the car at about 8 different dealers and have gotten pretty widely differing OTD prices -- variation of slightly more than 10%. Any recent CX-5 Touring purchasers out there with a sense of what I ought to be paying?

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Post by econprof » Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:38 pm

Ooh, super relevant to me!

We just bought a 2013 Mazda CX-5 touring with 92,000 miles for $10,000 in late June.

It’s in good exterior condition, white (drives the price up), has some of the nice features like Bose speakers and a sunroof. Some minor issues like the backup camera is a bit on the fritz, and we needed a serpentine belt when we bought it.

We saw a big range of prices from 8k-20k depending mostly on year and mileage.

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Post by theplayer11 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:39 pm

I would shoot for 10% off MSRP. If you can go a little higher, I would check out the turbo.
check out the thread "what did you pay for your CX-5" in the forum below:
https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/index.p ... neral.471/

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Post by RevFran » Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:03 pm

theplayer11 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:39 pm
I would shoot for 10% off MSRP. If you can go a little higher, I would check out the turbo.
check out the thread "what did you pay for your CX-5" in the forum below:
https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/index.p ... neral.471/
Thanks for that link, Player! Why do you suggest the turbo?

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Post by Carefreeap » Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:08 pm

RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:03 pm
theplayer11 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:39 pm
I would shoot for 10% off MSRP. If you can go a little higher, I would check out the turbo.
check out the thread "what did you pay for your CX-5" in the forum below:
https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/index.p ... neral.471/
Thanks for that link, Player! Why do you suggest the turbo?
I just bought the Signature. That turbo makes all the difference! :P
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Post by theplayer11 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:09 pm

RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:03 pm
theplayer11 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:39 pm
I would shoot for 10% off MSRP. If you can go a little higher, I would check out the turbo.
check out the thread "what did you pay for your CX-5" in the forum below:
https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/index.p ... neral.471/
Thanks for that link, Player! Why do you suggest the turbo?
because it's fun as heck to drive. :D

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Post by manatee2005 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:10 pm

In December I got the 2019 touring with preferred package (sunroof is a must for me) for 27k out the door.

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Post by tibbitts » Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:12 pm

RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:18 pm
Hello all. My car having finally given up the ghost, I am in the market for a new Mazda CX-5, Touring trim. I have priced the car at about 8 different dealers and have gotten pretty widely differing OTD prices -- variation of slightly more than 10%. Any recent CX-5 Touring purchasers out there with a sense of what I ought to be paying?
You should probably pay the lowest price you can find - what is your concern with going with the lowest price?

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Post by Normchad » Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:15 pm

theplayer11 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:09 pm
RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:03 pm
theplayer11 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:39 pm
I would shoot for 10% off MSRP. If you can go a little higher, I would check out the turbo.
check out the thread "what did you pay for your CX-5" in the forum below:
https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/index.p ... neral.471/
Thanks for that link, Player! Why do you suggest the turbo?
because it's fun as heck to drive. :D
I had a CX-5 touring before the turbo was offered. It was fine, no complaints. But if I could have gotten the turbo, I would have absolutely done it. That would take it from “perfectly fine” to “Man, I really like this a lot!”

The CX-5 is great, btw. I highly recommend it. It compares very well to our RDX for about $12K less....

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tibbitts wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:12 pm
RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:18 pm
Hello all. My car having finally given up the ghost, I am in the market for a new Mazda CX-5, Touring trim. I have priced the car at about 8 different dealers and have gotten pretty widely differing OTD prices -- variation of slightly more than 10%. Any recent CX-5 Touring purchasers out there with a sense of what I ought to be paying?
You should probably pay the lowest price you can find - what is your concern with going with the lowest price?
because maybe the dealers are not giving their best offer yet..that's why a forum with recent prices paid is helpful.

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tibbitts wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:12 pm
RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:18 pm
Hello all. My car having finally given up the ghost, I am in the market for a new Mazda CX-5, Touring trim. I have priced the car at about 8 different dealers and have gotten pretty widely differing OTD prices -- variation of slightly more than 10%. Any recent CX-5 Touring purchasers out there with a sense of what I ought to be paying?
You should probably pay the lowest price you can find - what is your concern with going with the lowest price?


I second this question.

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Post by adamthesmythe » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:20 pm

Helo80 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:02 pm
tibbitts wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:12 pm
RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:18 pm
Hello all. My car having finally given up the ghost, I am in the market for a new Mazda CX-5, Touring trim. I have priced the car at about 8 different dealers and have gotten pretty widely differing OTD prices -- variation of slightly more than 10%. Any recent CX-5 Touring purchasers out there with a sense of what I ought to be paying?
You should probably pay the lowest price you can find - what is your concern with going with the lowest price?
I second this question.
Dunno, maybe the cheap one is a counterfeit?

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Post by RomeoMustDie » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:08 pm

Nice choice of car.

Keep in mind that the turbo version may add more stress and maintenance to the engine.

I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice.

Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms.

Good luck.

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Post by RevFran » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:02 am

Helo80 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:02 pm
tibbitts wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:12 pm
RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:18 pm
Hello all. My car having finally given up the ghost, I am in the market for a new Mazda CX-5, Touring trim. I have priced the car at about 8 different dealers and have gotten pretty widely differing OTD prices -- variation of slightly more than 10%. Any recent CX-5 Touring purchasers out there with a sense of what I ought to be paying?
You should probably pay the lowest price you can find - what is your concern with going with the lowest price?


I second this question.
My hesitation is just that the lowest price (again, 10% lower than most of the other prices) is so much lower that I honestly just feel... suspicious and worried. When I’ve quoted the really low otd to some of the other dealers, they haven’t even tried to bargain // they’ve just said “if you have that offer, take it; we can’t match it.” So it seems — odd. I can’t figure out how this one place is coming in so low.

At any rate, thanks to everyone for your input!

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Post by tibbitts » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:16 am

RevFran wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:02 am
Helo80 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:02 pm
tibbitts wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:12 pm
RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:18 pm
Hello all. My car having finally given up the ghost, I am in the market for a new Mazda CX-5, Touring trim. I have priced the car at about 8 different dealers and have gotten pretty widely differing OTD prices -- variation of slightly more than 10%. Any recent CX-5 Touring purchasers out there with a sense of what I ought to be paying?
You should probably pay the lowest price you can find - what is your concern with going with the lowest price?


I second this question.
My hesitation is that many of the prices cluster at high-21k (after my trade) ... one or two are higher than that... and one place is 2k lower than that. It’s enough lower that I honestly just feel... suspicious and worried. At any rate, thanks to everyone for your input!
You are comparing out the door net of your trade? Are the quotes itemized?

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Post by theplayer11 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:15 am

RevFran wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:02 am
Helo80 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:02 pm
tibbitts wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:12 pm
RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:18 pm
Hello all. My car having finally given up the ghost, I am in the market for a new Mazda CX-5, Touring trim. I have priced the car at about 8 different dealers and have gotten pretty widely differing OTD prices -- variation of slightly more than 10%. Any recent CX-5 Touring purchasers out there with a sense of what I ought to be paying?
You should probably pay the lowest price you can find - what is your concern with going with the lowest price?


I second this question.
My hesitation is just that the lowest price (again, 10% lower than most of the other prices) is so much lower that I honestly just feel... suspicious and worried. When I’ve quoted the really low otd to some of the other dealers, they haven’t even tried to bargain // they’ve just said “if you have that offer, take it; we can’t match it.” So it seems — odd. I can’t figure out how this one place is coming in so low.

At any rate, thanks to everyone for your input!
A trade in makes it more complicated. I would go to car max and see what they will give you and have dealer beat or match. Try to negotiate without the trade, shoot for 10% off MSRP..that's what some are getting on recent CX-5 purchases. Of course, prices could be slightly different depending on what part of the country you are in.

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Post by smitcat » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:16 am

RomeoMustDie wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:08 pm
Nice choice of car.

Keep in mind that the turbo version may add more stress and maintenance to the engine.

I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice.

Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms.

Good luck.
"I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice."
We have two 2019 CX5's and we did not get the turbo version as it is quick enough for what it is in standard form.

"Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms."
I think you will find that resale values are below average for these cars - that is not a good reason to choose this specific car.

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Post by theplayer11 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:25 am

smitcat wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:16 am
RomeoMustDie wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:08 pm
Nice choice of car.

Keep in mind that the turbo version may add more stress and maintenance to the engine.

I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice.

Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms.

Good luck.
"I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice."
We have two 2019 CX5's and we did not get the turbo version as it is quick enough for what it is in standard form.

"Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms."
I think you will find that resale values are below average for these cars - that is not a good reason to choose this specific car.
not sure what quick enough is..but the turbo is very quick with great low end torque....really fun to drive. After test driving both, I just had to get the turbo. I also keep my cars 10 years, so at 55 years old, I figure I have 2-3 new cars left to purchase, so I decided now wasn't the time to skimp. BTW, the ventilated seats in the Summer are a game changer :D It's a good feeling to actually enjoy driving the car, instead of a vehicle to get you from point A to point B.

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Post by michaeljc70 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:27 am

RevFran wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:02 am
Helo80 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:02 pm
tibbitts wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:12 pm
RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:18 pm
Hello all. My car having finally given up the ghost, I am in the market for a new Mazda CX-5, Touring trim. I have priced the car at about 8 different dealers and have gotten pretty widely differing OTD prices -- variation of slightly more than 10%. Any recent CX-5 Touring purchasers out there with a sense of what I ought to be paying?
You should probably pay the lowest price you can find - what is your concern with going with the lowest price?


I second this question.
My hesitation is just that the lowest price (again, 10% lower than most of the other prices) is so much lower that I honestly just feel... suspicious and worried. When I’ve quoted the really low otd to some of the other dealers, they haven’t even tried to bargain // they’ve just said “if you have that offer, take it; we can’t match it.” So it seems — odd. I can’t figure out how this one place is coming in so low.

At any rate, thanks to everyone for your input!
Of course that is a possibility. How far is the dealer? If it is not far, what do you have to lose other than an hour of time? I would ask for a specific VIN before visiting a dealer in person. Not a generic quote. There are definitely dealers that pull the "oh, we just sold that specific car" when you show up.

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Post by smitcat » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:54 am

theplayer11 wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:25 am
smitcat wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:16 am
RomeoMustDie wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:08 pm
Nice choice of car.

Keep in mind that the turbo version may add more stress and maintenance to the engine.

I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice.

Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms.

Good luck.
"I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice."
We have two 2019 CX5's and we did not get the turbo version as it is quick enough for what it is in standard form.

"Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms."
I think you will find that resale values are below average for these cars - that is not a good reason to choose this specific car.
not sure what quick enough is..but the turbo is very quick with great low end torque....really fun to drive. After test driving both, I just had to get the turbo. I also keep my cars 10 years, so at 55 years old, I figure I have 2-3 new cars left to purchase, so I decided now wasn't the time to skimp. BTW, the ventilated seats in the Summer are a game changer :D It's a good feeling to actually enjoy driving the car, instead of a vehicle to get you from point A to point B.
"not sure what quick enough is..but the turbo is very quick with great low end torque"
Yes the turbo is faster we rented one for a week when we traveled last year.
We like our CX-5's a lot - the 0-60 time on the turbo is definitely faster at around 6.5 seconds so very similar to our pick up truck.
The car without the turbo is fine for us with a balanced drive style and ours are both Grand Touring models with the premium pkgs so the seats are there as well.

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Post by wfrobinette » Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:44 pm

RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:18 pm
Hello all. My car having finally given up the ghost, I am in the market for a new Mazda CX-5, Touring trim. I have priced the car at about 8 different dealers and have gotten pretty widely differing OTD prices -- variation of slightly more than 10%. Any recent CX-5 Touring purchasers out there with a sense of what I ought to be paying?
Funny you should ask. I just purchased a gently used 2019 CPO with 12k miles here in Charlotte. Most dealers wanted about 25 to 26+ OTD for these. I got mine OTD for 25k. New best OTD price I got on 2020 was 28,500 most were closer to 30k. I never set foot in a dealership until I chose which deal I wanted. 2 dealers wouldn't even participate in the OTD price over the phone. I was able to negotiate a bit more once there.

I opted for the gently used CPO even though it had a few nicks on the bumper as I didn't think $3,500 more for a new one was worth it.

There are some gently used 2020's out there too. Best price I got there was 27,250.

I settled on the mica blue with tan interior.

EDIT: All of my pricing above included all dealer fees, tax, title, license, etc. the used vehicle I purchased was had for 23,365
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Post by wfrobinette » Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:51 pm

RevFran wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:02 am
Helo80 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:02 pm
tibbitts wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:12 pm
RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:18 pm
Hello all. My car having finally given up the ghost, I am in the market for a new Mazda CX-5, Touring trim. I have priced the car at about 8 different dealers and have gotten pretty widely differing OTD prices -- variation of slightly more than 10%. Any recent CX-5 Touring purchasers out there with a sense of what I ought to be paying?
You should probably pay the lowest price you can find - what is your concern with going with the lowest price?


I second this question.
My hesitation is just that the lowest price (again, 10% lower than most of the other prices) is so much lower that I honestly just feel... suspicious and worried. When I’ve quoted the really low otd to some of the other dealers, they haven’t even tried to bargain // they’ve just said “if you have that offer, take it; we can’t match it.” So it seems — odd. I can’t figure out how this one place is coming in so low.

At any rate, thanks to everyone for your input!
Are you sure the 2k lower is not driven by the car being a dealer demo? Depending on the state those can be sold as new until a certain mileage. I've gotten great deals on these.

I wouldn't worry about it as long as car has full factory warranty. Take the best deal.

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Post by JAZZISCOOL » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:00 pm

econprof wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:38 pm
Ooh, super relevant to me!

We just bought a 2013 Mazda CX-5 touring with 92,000 miles for $10,000 in late June.

It’s in good exterior condition, white (drives the price up), has some of the nice features like Bose speakers and a sunroof. Some minor issues like the backup camera is a bit on the fritz, and we needed a serpentine belt when we bought it.

We saw a big range of prices from 8k-20k depending mostly on year and mileage.
Following this thread as I test drove a couple CX-5's pre-pandemic.

econprof: curious about your comment re: white driving up the price. I know white is popular but haven't heard this before. Did a dealer tell you this or other? Any other light colors e.g. silver that have a higher price? I am considering a lighter color for heat reasons.

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Post by wfrobinette » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:05 pm

theplayer11 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:17 pm
tibbitts wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:12 pm
RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:18 pm
Hello all. My car having finally given up the ghost, I am in the market for a new Mazda CX-5, Touring trim. I have priced the car at about 8 different dealers and have gotten pretty widely differing OTD prices -- variation of slightly more than 10%. Any recent CX-5 Touring purchasers out there with a sense of what I ought to be paying?
You should probably pay the lowest price you can find - what is your concern with going with the lowest price?
because maybe the dealers are not giving their best offer yet..that's why a forum with recent prices paid is helpful.
Look. If you are up front with the dealers and telling them you are taking the best deal and they don't give you the best deal to get you in the door the chances of a better deal from said dealer is pretty slim. I they are within 500 that's a different story but OP has a 2k difference. Like the OP I was told by dealers to take the other deal because they couldn't match or beat it.

Prices paid are helpful but some of this is dependent on location dues to various regional incentives. Plus many people forget to mention loyalty cash, military cash, or student cash incentives as well.

I've seen a fundamental shift in the used car market here in Charlotte. Almost every major brand dealer has moved toward the Carmax model. With Carvana, Vroom in play as well, they've all got to put their best price forward. I am seeing the same on new cars as well though there still is some negotiation room built in. I also am seeing dealers come way off the sticker only to add 1500 to 2000 in lifetime powertrain warranties, window tinting, paint protection and nitrogen tires.

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Post by wfrobinette » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:10 pm

JAZZISCOOL wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:00 pm
econprof wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:38 pm
Ooh, super relevant to me!

We just bought a 2013 Mazda CX-5 touring with 92,000 miles for $10,000 in late June.

It’s in good exterior condition, white (drives the price up), has some of the nice features like Bose speakers and a sunroof. Some minor issues like the backup camera is a bit on the fritz, and we needed a serpentine belt when we bought it.

We saw a big range of prices from 8k-20k depending mostly on year and mileage.
Following this thread as I test drove a couple CX-5's pre-pandemic.

econprof: curious about your comment re: white driving up the price. I know white is popular but haven't heard this before. Did a dealer tell you this or other? Any other light colors e.g. silver that have a higher price? I am considering a lighter color for heat reasons.
White is an factory upcharge color. Lok at the mazda site and build configurator and it will show the upcharges.

I have a white Q7(tan interior), a red camry(dark gray) and now a mica blue metallic(tan interior) CX-5. I've also owned a Black on Black car.

I honestly can't tell much of difference in temp on the inside. All three are hot when it's 95 degrees outside. Buy the color you like.

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Post by FrugalInvestor » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:25 pm

RevFran wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:02 am
My hesitation is just that the lowest price (again, 10% lower than most of the other prices) is so much lower that I honestly just feel... suspicious and worried. When I’ve quoted the really low otd to some of the other dealers, they haven’t even tried to bargain // they’ve just said “if you have that offer, take it; we can’t match it.” So it seems — odd. I can’t figure out how this one place is coming in so low.

At any rate, thanks to everyone for your input!
It's a 2-sep process. After the salesperson establishes a price the finance guy (closer) will try to add more $$$ in many ways. Take the lowest OTD cost and resist all the add-ons! You always have to be ready and willing to walk because that's often what it takes to get the number originally agreed upon.
Have a plan, stay the course and simplify but most importantly....Ignore the Noise!

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Post by wfrobinette » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:33 pm

RomeoMustDie wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:08 pm
Nice choice of car.

Keep in mind that the turbo version may add more stress and maintenance to the engine.

I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice.

Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms.

Good luck.
Turbo is going to cost you to move up two trim levels and nearly 9k in MSRP.

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Post by tibbitts » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:40 pm

JAZZISCOOL wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:00 pm
econprof wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:38 pm
Ooh, super relevant to me!

We just bought a 2013 Mazda CX-5 touring with 92,000 miles for $10,000 in late June.

It’s in good exterior condition, white (drives the price up), has some of the nice features like Bose speakers and a sunroof. Some minor issues like the backup camera is a bit on the fritz, and we needed a serpentine belt when we bought it.

We saw a big range of prices from 8k-20k depending mostly on year and mileage.
Following this thread as I test drove a couple CX-5's pre-pandemic.

econprof: curious about your comment re: white driving up the price. I know white is popular but haven't heard this before. Did a dealer tell you this or other? Any other light colors e.g. silver that have a higher price? I am considering a lighter color for heat reasons.
I don't know about Mazda but on at least a couple of other models I've been looking at, white and one or two other colors are an add-on cost in the $400 range.

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Post by JAZZISCOOL » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:40 pm

wfrobinette wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:10 pm

White is an factory upcharge color. Lok at the mazda site and build configurator and it will show the upcharges.

I have a white Q7(tan interior), a red camry(dark gray) and now a mica blue metallic(tan interior) CX-5. I've also owned a Black on Black car.

I honestly can't tell much of difference in temp on the inside. All three are hot when it's 95 degrees outside. Buy the color you like.
Thanks! Interesting - I did not know this about white upcharge. I'll check out the Mazda site. I thought the pretty red color was an upcharge but am surprised about white.

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Post by wfrobinette » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:54 pm

JAZZISCOOL wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:40 pm
wfrobinette wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:10 pm

White is an factory upcharge color. Lok at the mazda site and build configurator and it will show the upcharges.

I have a white Q7(tan interior), a red camry(dark gray) and now a mica blue metallic(tan interior) CX-5. I've also owned a Black on Black car.

I honestly can't tell much of difference in temp on the inside. All three are hot when it's 95 degrees outside. Buy the color you like.
Thanks! Interesting - I did not know this about white upcharge. I'll check out the Mazda site. I thought the pretty red color was an upcharge but am surprised about white.
$200 for that one 545 for the red. Most of the whites these days aren't plain old white.

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Post by palanzo » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:56 pm

RomeoMustDie wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:08 pm
Nice choice of car.

Keep in mind that the turbo version may add more stress and maintenance to the engine.

I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice.

Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms.

Good luck.
It will definitely add more stress to the engine and it will likely not last as long as a naturally aspirated engine. You won't likely get to 200K.

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Post by JAZZISCOOL » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:01 pm

wfrobinette wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:54 pm
JAZZISCOOL wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:40 pm
wfrobinette wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:10 pm

White is an factory upcharge color. Lok at the mazda site and build configurator and it will show the upcharges.

I have a white Q7(tan interior), a red camry(dark gray) and now a mica blue metallic(tan interior) CX-5. I've also owned a Black on Black car.

I honestly can't tell much of difference in temp on the inside. All three are hot when it's 95 degrees outside. Buy the color you like.
Thanks! Interesting - I did not know this about white upcharge. I'll check out the Mazda site. I thought the pretty red color was an upcharge but am surprised about white.
$200 for that one 545 for the red. Most of the whites these days aren't plain old white.
Thanks! I also checked and the machine gray metallic color is +$300 - also very nice looking.

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Post by palanzo » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:02 pm

wfrobinette wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:05 pm
theplayer11 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:17 pm
tibbitts wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:12 pm
RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:18 pm
Hello all. My car having finally given up the ghost, I am in the market for a new Mazda CX-5, Touring trim. I have priced the car at about 8 different dealers and have gotten pretty widely differing OTD prices -- variation of slightly more than 10%. Any recent CX-5 Touring purchasers out there with a sense of what I ought to be paying?
You should probably pay the lowest price you can find - what is your concern with going with the lowest price?
because maybe the dealers are not giving their best offer yet..that's why a forum with recent prices paid is helpful.
Look. If you are up front with the dealers and telling them you are taking the best deal and they don't give you the best deal to get you in the door the chances of a better deal from said dealer is pretty slim. I they are within 500 that's a different story but OP has a 2k difference. Like the OP I was told by dealers to take the other deal because they couldn't match or beat it.

Prices paid are helpful but some of this is dependent on location dues to various regional incentives. Plus many people forget to mention loyalty cash, military cash, or student cash incentives as well.

I've seen a fundamental shift in the used car market here in Charlotte. Almost every major brand dealer has moved toward the Carmax model. With Carvana, Vroom in play as well, they've all got to put their best price forward. I am seeing the same on new cars as well though there still is some negotiation room built in. I also am seeing dealers come way off the sticker only to add 1500 to 2000 in lifetime powertrain warranties, window tinting, paint protection and nitrogen tires.
I would not even talk with a dealer who added junk like that to a vehicle.

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Post by palanzo » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:03 pm

FrugalInvestor wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:25 pm
RevFran wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:02 am
My hesitation is just that the lowest price (again, 10% lower than most of the other prices) is so much lower that I honestly just feel... suspicious and worried. When I’ve quoted the really low otd to some of the other dealers, they haven’t even tried to bargain // they’ve just said “if you have that offer, take it; we can’t match it.” So it seems — odd. I can’t figure out how this one place is coming in so low.

At any rate, thanks to everyone for your input!
It's a 2-sep process. After the salesperson establishes a price the finance guy (closer) will try to add more $$$ in many ways. Take the lowest OTD cost and resist all the add-ons! You always have to be ready and willing to walk because that's often what it takes to get the number originally agreed upon.
Or tell them up front in email that you have written a check for $xyz and do not want to talk to the "finance" guy. There are also dealers who don't play these games thankfully.

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Re: cost of Mazda CX-5 Touring?

Post by wfrobinette » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:25 pm

palanzo wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:02 pm
wfrobinette wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:05 pm
theplayer11 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:17 pm
tibbitts wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:12 pm
RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:18 pm
Hello all. My car having finally given up the ghost, I am in the market for a new Mazda CX-5, Touring trim. I have priced the car at about 8 different dealers and have gotten pretty widely differing OTD prices -- variation of slightly more than 10%. Any recent CX-5 Touring purchasers out there with a sense of what I ought to be paying?
You should probably pay the lowest price you can find - what is your concern with going with the lowest price?
because maybe the dealers are not giving their best offer yet..that's why a forum with recent prices paid is helpful.
Look. If you are up front with the dealers and telling them you are taking the best deal and they don't give you the best deal to get you in the door the chances of a better deal from said dealer is pretty slim. I they are within 500 that's a different story but OP has a 2k difference. Like the OP I was told by dealers to take the other deal because they couldn't match or beat it.

Prices paid are helpful but some of this is dependent on location dues to various regional incentives. Plus many people forget to mention loyalty cash, military cash, or student cash incentives as well.

I've seen a fundamental shift in the used car market here in Charlotte. Almost every major brand dealer has moved toward the Carmax model. With Carvana, Vroom in play as well, they've all got to put their best price forward. I am seeing the same on new cars as well though there still is some negotiation room built in. I also am seeing dealers come way off the sticker only to add 1500 to 2000 in lifetime powertrain warranties, window tinting, paint protection and nitrogen tires.
I would not even talk with a dealer who added junk like that to a vehicle.
More and more are moving in that direction. I bought from one but got the price down where I wanted it. I honestly think it's an accounting game.

Frankly, I wish all dealers would move to the you pay what it says and not require all the haggling. I walked from a gently used Camry because they would not budge off the sticker(I just wanted $500) and ended up spending 6500 more on the CX-5 I just bought. I have never paid sticker and I refused to start.

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Post by RomeoMustDie » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:34 pm

smitcat wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:16 am
RomeoMustDie wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:08 pm
Nice choice of car.

Keep in mind that the turbo version may add more stress and maintenance to the engine.

I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice.

Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms.

Good luck.
"I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice."
We have two 2019 CX5's and we did not get the turbo version as it is quick enough for what it is in standard form.

"Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms."
I think you will find that resale values are below average for these cars - that is not a good reason to choose this specific car.
That's your opinion. The turbo affects the power band and will be immediately noticeable to me everytime I use the car both in town and on the highway.

Since it's a major component of my experience and enjoyment of the car, something I intend to own for many years, I would prefer to pay for the upgrade.

Try going to a car club and telling people "the 4 cylinder eco boost mustang is quick enough for what it is".

They offer multiple engine options for a reason.

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Post by palanzo » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:43 pm

wfrobinette wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:25 pm
palanzo wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:02 pm
wfrobinette wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:05 pm
theplayer11 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:17 pm
tibbitts wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:12 pm

You should probably pay the lowest price you can find - what is your concern with going with the lowest price?
because maybe the dealers are not giving their best offer yet..that's why a forum with recent prices paid is helpful.
Look. If you are up front with the dealers and telling them you are taking the best deal and they don't give you the best deal to get you in the door the chances of a better deal from said dealer is pretty slim. I they are within 500 that's a different story but OP has a 2k difference. Like the OP I was told by dealers to take the other deal because they couldn't match or beat it.

Prices paid are helpful but some of this is dependent on location dues to various regional incentives. Plus many people forget to mention loyalty cash, military cash, or student cash incentives as well.

I've seen a fundamental shift in the used car market here in Charlotte. Almost every major brand dealer has moved toward the Carmax model. With Carvana, Vroom in play as well, they've all got to put their best price forward. I am seeing the same on new cars as well though there still is some negotiation room built in. I also am seeing dealers come way off the sticker only to add 1500 to 2000 in lifetime powertrain warranties, window tinting, paint protection and nitrogen tires.
I would not even talk with a dealer who added junk like that to a vehicle.
More and more are moving in that direction. I bought from one but got the price down where I wanted it. I honestly think it's an accounting game.

Frankly, I wish all dealers would move to the you pay what it says and not require all the haggling. I walked from a gently used Camry because they would not budge off the sticker(I just wanted $500) and ended up spending 6500 more on the CX-5 I just bought. I have never paid sticker and I refused to start.
Same here.

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Post by palanzo » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:44 pm

RomeoMustDie wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:34 pm
smitcat wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:16 am
RomeoMustDie wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:08 pm
Nice choice of car.

Keep in mind that the turbo version may add more stress and maintenance to the engine.

I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice.

Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms.

Good luck.
"I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice."
We have two 2019 CX5's and we did not get the turbo version as it is quick enough for what it is in standard form.

"Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms."
I think you will find that resale values are below average for these cars - that is not a good reason to choose this specific car.
That's your opinion. The turbo affects the power band and will be immediately noticeable to me everytime I use the car both in town and on the highway.

Since it's a major component of my experience and enjoyment of the car, something I intend to own for many years, I would prefer to pay for the upgrade.

Try going to a car club and telling people "the 4 cylinder eco boost mustang is quick enough for what it is".

They offer multiple engine options for a reason.
All good reasons. Just be prepared for higher maintenance costs and lower lifespan compare to a naturally aspirated engine.

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Post by RomeoMustDie » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:48 pm

smitcat wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:16 am
RomeoMustDie wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:08 pm
Nice choice of car.

Keep in mind that the turbo version may add more stress and maintenance to the engine.

I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice.

Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms.

Good luck.
"I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice."
We have two 2019 CX5's and we did not get the turbo version as it is quick enough for what it is in standard form.

"Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms."
I think you will find that resale values are below average for these cars - that is not a good reason to choose this specific car.
According to my calculations, Mazda Miata 5 year depreciation rate was 44% vs an average of 50.2%

Edit: whoops, misread cx5 for mx5 :beer
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Re: cost of Mazda CX-5 Touring?

Post by RevFran » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:56 pm

tibbitts wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:16 am
RevFran wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:02 am
Helo80 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:02 pm
tibbitts wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:12 pm
RevFran wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:18 pm
Hello all. My car having finally given up the ghost, I am in the market for a new Mazda CX-5, Touring trim. I have priced the car at about 8 different dealers and have gotten pretty widely differing OTD prices -- variation of slightly more than 10%. Any recent CX-5 Touring purchasers out there with a sense of what I ought to be paying?
You should probably pay the lowest price you can find - what is your concern with going with the lowest price?


I second this question.
My hesitation is that many of the prices cluster at high-21k (after my trade) ... one or two are higher than that... and one place is 2k lower than that. It’s enough lower that I honestly just feel... suspicious and worried. At any rate, thanks to everyone for your input!
You are comparing out the door net of your trade? Are the quotes itemized?
Yes!

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Post by smitcat » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:13 pm

RomeoMustDie wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:34 pm
smitcat wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:16 am
RomeoMustDie wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:08 pm
Nice choice of car.

Keep in mind that the turbo version may add more stress and maintenance to the engine.

I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice.

Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms.

Good luck.
"I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice."
We have two 2019 CX5's and we did not get the turbo version as it is quick enough for what it is in standard form.

"Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms."
I think you will find that resale values are below average for these cars - that is not a good reason to choose this specific car.
That's your opinion. The turbo affects the power band and will be immediately noticeable to me everytime I use the car both in town and on the highway.

Since it's a major component of my experience and enjoyment of the car, something I intend to own for many years, I would prefer to pay for the upgrade.

Try going to a car club and telling people "the 4 cylinder eco boost mustang is quick enough for what it is".

They offer multiple engine options for a reason.
"That's your opinion. The turbo affects the power band and will be immediately noticeable to me everytime I use the car both in town and on the highway."
Then it was a very good selection for your intended use and I wish you luck with it - we certainly like the way ours handle and drive.
FWIW - we have owned a few forced induction engines over the years, 9 were in marine diesels, 5 in trucks and 6 in cars. Turbo's are not necessarily a problem at all we have two turbo diesels now.
"Try going to a car club"
Have been in a number of car clubs over the years - but we do not let opinions of others shape what we would like to do.

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Post by smitcat » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:18 pm

RomeoMustDie wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:48 pm
smitcat wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:16 am
RomeoMustDie wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:08 pm
Nice choice of car.

Keep in mind that the turbo version may add more stress and maintenance to the engine.

I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice.

Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms.

Good luck.
"I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice."
We have two 2019 CX5's and we did not get the turbo version as it is quick enough for what it is in standard form.

"Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms."
I think you will find that resale values are below average for these cars - that is not a good reason to choose this specific car.
According to my calculations, Mazda Miata 5 year depreciation rate was 44% vs an average of 50.2%

Edit: whoops, misread cx5 for mx5 :beer
Yes - the title was CX5 and that is what I was reporting back on when we researched on ours about a year back.
We do have CX5's but they do depreciate more than average so I wanted to point that out.

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Post by k2murray » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:43 pm

I have been car shopping for a Mazda CX-5 as well these last couple of weeks. If it helps in Southern California the best price I've found for a 2020 Grand Touring is $29,200 and a 2020 GT Reserve for $31,500.

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Post by palanzo » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:54 pm

smitcat wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:13 pm
RomeoMustDie wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:34 pm
smitcat wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:16 am
RomeoMustDie wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:08 pm
Nice choice of car.

Keep in mind that the turbo version may add more stress and maintenance to the engine.

I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice.

Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms.

Good luck.
"I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice."
We have two 2019 CX5's and we did not get the turbo version as it is quick enough for what it is in standard form.

"Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms."
I think you will find that resale values are below average for these cars - that is not a good reason to choose this specific car.
That's your opinion. The turbo affects the power band and will be immediately noticeable to me everytime I use the car both in town and on the highway.

Since it's a major component of my experience and enjoyment of the car, something I intend to own for many years, I would prefer to pay for the upgrade.

Try going to a car club and telling people "the 4 cylinder eco boost mustang is quick enough for what it is".

They offer multiple engine options for a reason.
"That's your opinion. The turbo affects the power band and will be immediately noticeable to me everytime I use the car both in town and on the highway."
Then it was a very good selection for your intended use and I wish you luck with it - we certainly like the way ours handle and drive.
FWIW - we have owned a few forced induction engines over the years, 9 were in marine diesels, 5 in trucks and 6 in cars. Turbo's are not necessarily a problem at all we have two turbo diesels now.
"Try going to a car club"
Have been in a number of car clubs over the years - but we do not let opinions of others shape what we would like to do.
There is a big difference between turbo diesels and turbo gasoline engines.

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Post by theplayer11 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:10 pm

JAZZISCOOL wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:01 pm
wfrobinette wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:54 pm
JAZZISCOOL wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:40 pm
wfrobinette wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:10 pm

White is an factory upcharge color. Lok at the mazda site and build configurator and it will show the upcharges.

I have a white Q7(tan interior), a red camry(dark gray) and now a mica blue metallic(tan interior) CX-5. I've also owned a Black on Black car.

I honestly can't tell much of difference in temp on the inside. All three are hot when it's 95 degrees outside. Buy the color you like.
Thanks! Interesting - I did not know this about white upcharge. I'll check out the Mazda site. I thought the pretty red color was an upcharge but am surprised about white.
$200 for that one 545 for the red. Most of the whites these days aren't plain old white.
Thanks! I also checked and the machine gray metallic color is +$300 - also very nice looking.
They need better colors, IMO. The grey is the only color my wife and I liked. Wasn't interested in any of the other colors.

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Post by smitcat » Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:57 pm

palanzo wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:54 pm
smitcat wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:13 pm
RomeoMustDie wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:34 pm
smitcat wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:16 am
RomeoMustDie wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:08 pm
Nice choice of car.

Keep in mind that the turbo version may add more stress and maintenance to the engine.

I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice.

Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms.

Good luck.
"I would still go for the turbo version for fun factor though if given the choice."
We have two 2019 CX5's and we did not get the turbo version as it is quick enough for what it is in standard form.

"Also these cars should have a decent resale value because they are popular track car platforms."
I think you will find that resale values are below average for these cars - that is not a good reason to choose this specific car.
That's your opinion. The turbo affects the power band and will be immediately noticeable to me everytime I use the car both in town and on the highway.

Since it's a major component of my experience and enjoyment of the car, something I intend to own for many years, I would prefer to pay for the upgrade.

Try going to a car club and telling people "the 4 cylinder eco boost mustang is quick enough for what it is".

They offer multiple engine options for a reason.
"That's your opinion. The turbo affects the power band and will be immediately noticeable to me everytime I use the car both in town and on the highway."
Then it was a very good selection for your intended use and I wish you luck with it - we certainly like the way ours handle and drive.
FWIW - we have owned a few forced induction engines over the years, 9 were in marine diesels, 5 in trucks and 6 in cars. Turbo's are not necessarily a problem at all we have two turbo diesels now.
"Try going to a car club"
Have been in a number of car clubs over the years - but we do not let opinions of others shape what we would like to do.
There is a big difference between turbo diesels and turbo gasoline engines.
Yes - I am aware, I was generally speaking about FI engines as I owned a 2009 Callaway corvette.
Some of the other cars I had were supercharged - centrifugal.

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Post by Nowizard » Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:01 pm

Check the trade-in value and offer. Dealers make more on the trade-in and are looking for cars in good condition. Check KBB and Edmunds for the average sale price and figure your trade-in value and OTD price. Don't forget that doc fees vary tremendously across dealers. Makes not difference what the sale price is, it is the OTD price that matters.

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