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AT&T Fiber internet - modem/router

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Hi, I'm getting AT&T Fiber internet

My question is should I rent my modem/router (gateway) from AT&T for $10/month?
EDIT - 7/17/2020 1:10 PM PST : I can't opt out of their rental.

New question: Should I still get my own router and plug it into AT&T's or keep it simple and just use AT&T's as is?

Their Fiber promo right is $50/month for first year without the modem/router.

I currently have Xfinity and pay $50 for much, much less speed like 100mbps. I'm also renting their gateway for like $14 (included in the $50 bill).
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We rented Xfinity's modem for a year. Recently bought a NetGear router/modem for about $90. Buy! Amazing you have a choice of AT&T or XFinity. We are stuck with XFinity only.
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I have CenturyLink fiber. The fiber goes to a box on the side of my house that is an ONT -- Optical Network Translator. That is in itself a modem and provides an ethernet cable that I plugged into my existing router. Never the less, CenturyLink tried to sell me a modem/router. I told them no.

I don't know if AT&T is similar (but it probably is). If so, you don't need a modem/router you just need a router. So go buy yourself a nice router (if you don't already have one) and plug the fiber service's ONT ethernet cable into that. Don't rent.

EDIT: But see inverter's post below.
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With AT&T, you aren't able to opt out of the modem/router. AT&T has decided to encrypt the traffic between the ONT & their modem, so you can't just plug your router into their ONT.
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inverter wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:12 pm With AT&T, you aren't able to opt out of the modem/router. AT&T has decided to encrypt the traffic between the ONT & their modem, so you can't just plug your router into their ONT.
Yikes! They have not given up on their old evil practices! Do the also insist on renting you a Princess phone?
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Where I live, AT&T Fiber requires not only the ONT translating from fiber -> ethernet as a dumb pipe, but also an AT&T-approved router. This will offer the ability to split off TV service or "landline" service if you subscribe to those. They used to use an ONT that wasn't a dumb pipe and provided routing functions, but moved away from that due to poor reliability.

In my case, I purchased that required router, put it in a bridge mode, and run my own router that has a public IP address that I configure to my hearts content. The AT&T-approved router sits there doing nothing beyond acting as a bridge and doing whatever authentication AT&T's network requires.

I would never choose to rent a modem, if I had the choice. Not worth it in my book as you typically find suitable ones under $100. Remember, I get a "uni-taster". My wifi network and heavy lifting is done by my own router further down the pipe, so the main one just needs to deal with supporting one client over ethernet.
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fareastwarriors wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:43 pm Hi, I'm getting AT&T Fiber internet

My question is should I rent my modem/router?
I would never rent a router. I like having sole control of that for security reasons.

Modem I've done both, rent and buy. Right now I'm renting. It really depends on the options your service offers.
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BrandonBogle wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:16 pm Where I live, AT&T Fiber requires not only the ONT translating from fiber -> ethernet as a dumb pipe, but also an AT&T-approved router. This will offer the ability to split off TV service or "landline" service if you subscribe to those. They used to use an ONT that wasn't a dumb pipe and provided routing functions, but moved away from that due to poor reliability.
If you open my CenturyLink ONT box it has a separate place to connect a phone line.
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inverter wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:12 pm With AT&T, you aren't able to opt out of the modem/router. AT&T has decided to encrypt the traffic between the ONT & their modem, so you can't just plug your router into their ONT.
You're right. I can't opt out. Sorry, I should've checked before asking!

With Comcast, I was able to select rent or bring my own.

If this is the case, should I still get another router to plug into their modem/router and keep it simple and use it as is?

I'm not super tech-savvy if that matters but can follow directions decently.

*I'll edit the title of thread and my initial post. Thanks again!
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Unless you have a real reason to use your own router, just use the ATT one. If you need mesh or access points, ATT sells their wifi extenders for $40 each.

https://dfarq.homeip.net/how-to-use-you ... att-fiber/

If you decide you need your own router, there are two ways to do it. You can set up a DMZ as the link below says or pay $15/mo for static IP addresses.

https://dfarq.homeip.net/how-to-use-you ... att-fiber/

I needed static IP but most people don't. Since you aren't that techy, I'd strongly suggest staying with ATT and add the extenders if needed.
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