Painting new drywall

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Painting new drywall

Post by indexfundfan » Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:48 pm

Would you apply a separate coat of primer on new drywall first? Or would a paint-and-primer in one work well? I would be using light colors.
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Post by Soon2BXProgrammer » Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:49 pm

use drywall sealer..... or else you will waste too much paint.

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Post by Housedoc » Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:53 pm

Primer much cheaper route. Paint manufacturers want to sell paint for $$$ so they say paint and primer in one.

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Post by oldmotos » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:04 pm

My drywall guy always tells us to do 2 coats of drywall primer then paint.

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Post by Bogle7 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:07 pm

oldmotos wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:04 pm
My drywall guy always tells us to do 2 coats of drywall primer then paint.
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Post by quantAndHold » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:11 pm

Light sanding of the mud, then drywall primer, then paint. Drywall is thirsty stuff.
Yes, I’m really that pedantic.

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Post by Woodshark » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:13 pm

We always paint new drywall with a PVA primer to seal it then two coats of good paint. It really helps to go ahead and tint the primer the same color as the paint.

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Post by JonnyB » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:20 pm

If you are doing a whole house, primer will save you money - one coat primer and one coat paint.

If you are just doing one or two rooms, just do two coats of paint. You won't have have half a can of primer and half a can of paint left over.

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Post by indexfundfan » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:41 pm

Thanks. This is going to be for my basement which I'm finishing.

Apparently there is the drywall primer and then there is the drywall sealer. Which would you recommend?
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Post by runner3081 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:50 pm

Woodshark wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:13 pm
We always paint new drywall with a PVA primer to seal it then two coats of good paint. It really helps to go ahead and tint the primer the same color as the paint.
Yes, we always tint the primer as well.

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Post by rich126 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:56 pm

I agree with the others. And my rule for all of my painting goes something like:
1. Patch any holes
2. Wash the walls
3. Prime
4. Two coats of paint

Getting painters to do it my way is often difficult. They just want to slap on a coat of pain and skip the cleaning/priming and then the paint tends not to last as long or may peel off (trim/doors) if dirt or dust was left on the surface.

I usually end up doing most of the painting myself although I may hire someone to do the ceiling or difficult areas. I've learned the hard way that ceilings kill my back.

I've had a few fixer-up homes and I sure don't want to do any more painting :D

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Post by Carson » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:08 pm

I really like this product on new drywall.

https://www.usg.com/content/usgcom/en/p ... rimer.html
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Post by Cubicle » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:50 pm

Primer. Tinted. 2 coats if budget & time allow. Then paint. ✓✓✓
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Post by Quantumfizz » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:12 pm

In line with most recs, new drywall will really suck in the first coat of what is applied. You will be much happier using a dedicated primer, then following that up with paint.

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Post by GuyInFL » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:22 pm

Woodshark wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:13 pm
It really helps to go ahead and tint the primer the same color as the paint.
I have them tint the primer to 50% of the final color. Makes it easy to see what’s not been painted.

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Post by indexfundfan » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:48 am

Thanks for all the recommendations.

I intend to get this product -- Kilz PVA Interior Primer from Home Depot

https://www.homedepot.com/p/KILZ-PVA-5- ... /202665645

Just wondering if HD would tint the primer for me?
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Post by 2babogle » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:01 am

indexfundfan wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:48 am
Thanks for all the recommendations.

I intend to get this product -- Kilz PVA Interior Primer from Home Depot

https://www.homedepot.com/p/KILZ-PVA-5- ... /202665645

Just wondering if HD would tint the primer for me?
Yes they will. Also they'll shake it which is a bonus. When I buy off the shelf colors or not tinted I always have them shake it up in the machine.
Kilz is pretty pricey. I use a cheap primer in a 5 gallon bucket. 2 coats on new drywall.

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Post by Andyrunner » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:15 am

primer first and you will need two coats.

First coat you will question where all the primer you put on went.

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Post by Sandtrap » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:13 am

PVA Sealer is a must. No matter the name, it must contain the word "PVA".
*PVA Drywall Primer/Sealer is not "Primer" for generic painting and "Primer/Sealer" (non PVA) is not for raw drywall.
Be sure to wipe down or blow the walls with an air compressor to get all the drywall dust off.
Paint it with 2 coats because it is very thin in consistency.
*Do not use a thin short nap cheap roller cover. Use a good quality roller cover that holds paint and puts on a good coat.
*Paint evenly and smoothly and with good rhythm. Do not roll back on semi dry areas or if starting to tack or you will get a rough surface. PVA sealer/primer is tacky. Do not use additives like Penetrol or dilute the paint with water.
There is a vinyl additive in PVA Primer/sealer that seals the drywall and creates a barrier between the drywall and the paint.
If you really want a solid solid appearing coat of paint, primer 1 good even coat over the PVA Sealer. Not a must but can help depending on the result you want.

If you do any repairs or drywall work after priming, you have to pva prime it again before finish coat or it will holiday.

Of course finish with a minimum of 2 finish coats of high quality paint or 10 coats of cheap budget paint.

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Post by JonnyB » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:00 pm

I know some people swear by PVA primers, but I'm not a fan. What you are applying is just watered down Elmer's wood glue. That is what PVA primer is.

You can't always be sure how it is going to react with paint as PVA is softened by water. If you don't apply paint over it for several days, it can crack and craze.

Latex paints have excellent adhesion on their own. Some even have a bit of PVA in them. Except in the most adverse conditions it's unnecessary to apply glue as a primer.
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Post by Glockenspiel » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:11 pm

Yes. Drywall sealer/primer is a must. You'll waste tons of paint otherwise. Just use like Zinsser Drywall Primer or a similar product. It doesn't have to be a perfect coat.

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Post by JonnyB » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:38 pm

Some people do one coat of primer and two coats of paint. The primer reduces the amount of paint used in the first top coat and saves a little money.

For me, my time is more valuable than paint. I just do two coats of high quality paint right on the drywall and I'm done. And for light areas like ceilings, I'll do one primer coat and one top coat.
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Re: Painting new drywall

Post by Woodshark » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:46 pm

One more hint. Make sure you/they lightly sand the walls after the primer coat. Primer raises the fiber on the drywall surface. A quick sanding knocks it down and gives a smooth surface for the final coats.

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Post by lessismore22 » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:56 pm

We just built a new office and did the painting ourselves. Used a coat of primer, followed by two coats of color. No way we could have gotten by with less. Drywall soaks it up!

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Re: Painting new drywall

Post by Housedoc » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:07 pm

After vacuuming and wiping off surface, I use a Swiffer Dry pad on the handle that comes with it. 5 ft mop handle not the handheld one. Picks up fine dust. Change Swiffer as needed.

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