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SUV, 2 row, 40k USD

Post by sambb » Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:17 pm

What would you get?
i liked the honda passport - but they say that the honda sensing is way off, and causes emergency braking on 2 lane roads with oncoming cars
Highlander is very nice 2020 version - but oh so boring -
Used cayenne for 45k 2017-8 CPO, is an option, but hard to get all the safety tech
palisade/telluride is super nice, but large and 3 row
rav4 hybrid is great.. but seems a little downscale.. subaru sort of the same.. own one already
used RX? or used lexus GX? GX maybe..
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Post by playtothebeat » Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:29 pm

Outback.

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Post by Monsterflockster » Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:31 pm

sambb wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:17 pm
What would you get?
i liked the honda passport - but they say that the honda sensing is way off, and causes emergency braking on 2 lane roads with oncoming cars
Highlander is very nice 2020 version - but oh so boring -
Used cayenne for 45k 2017-8 CPO, is an option, but hard to get all the safety tech
palisade/telluride is super nice, but large and 3 row
rav4 hybrid is great.. but seems a little downscale
used RX? or used lexus GX? GX maybe..
We got a 2015 Lexus RX F-sport with 42k miles for 25k. We live it. Great car!

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Post by FrugalInvestor » Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:34 pm

Take a look at the Mazda CX-9. It's a 3-row but definitely on the small size for that class - both in physical dimensions and in the way it handles. My wife thought a 3-row would feel too big for her but she loves it. It handles more like a sedan than a a SUV. It also has a lot of features/tech for the price. A great value in my book. Oh, and it looks great too!

We did a lot of comparison shopping looking for a vehicle we would both like and the CX-9 came out on top. My only concern in the end was reliability but as it turns out Mazda has upped its game in that area with the CX-9 too.
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Post by bikechuck » Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:09 pm

sambb wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:17 pm
What would you get?
i liked the honda passport - but they say that the honda sensing is way off, and causes emergency braking on 2 lane roads with oncoming cars
Highlander is very nice 2020 version - but oh so boring -
Used cayenne for 45k 2017-8 CPO, is an option, but hard to get all the safety tech
palisade/telluride is super nice, but large and 3 row
rav4 hybrid is great.. but seems a little downscale.. subaru sort of the same.. own one already
used RX? or used lexus GX? GX maybe..
I have a 2020 Honda CRV and have not experienced problems with unwanted emergency braking on 2 lane roads. I hope that does not become an issue in the future and I doubt that it will.

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Post by Clever_Username » Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:16 pm

FrugalInvestor wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:34 pm
Take a look at the Mazda CX-9. It's a 3-row but definitely on the small size for that class - both in physical dimensions and in the way it handles. My wife thought a 3-row would feel too big for her but she loves it. It handles more like a sedan than a a SUV. It also has a lot of features/tech for the price. A great value in my book. Oh, and it looks great too!

We did a lot of comparison shopping looking for a vehicle we would both like and the CX-9 came out on top. My only concern in the end was reliability but as it turns out Mazda has upped its game in that area with the CX-9 too.
I literally logged in to make a post about buying a CX-5, which I am about to do. If money were no object (and/or if my budget were several thousands more), I'd get the CX-9. Both great cars.
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Post by Businesscasual » Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:37 pm

If you can wait a few more months, the 2021 Toyota Venza looks sweet.

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Post by adamthesmythe » Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:49 pm

I will be picking up a Rav4 on Monday. Gas, because most of my miles are highway.

I didn't look at the CRV or Subaru because I don't want a CVT. Also had a less than satisfactory experience with Honda some years back. Drove a CX5 and did not find it significantly better than the Rav4. Besides, no dealer anywhere nearby.

As you can see, I don't have a particularly compelling reason for the choice I made. All are pretty satisfactory vehicles.

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Post by harrychan » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:18 pm

Subaru Forester
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Post by runner3081 » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:20 pm

playtothebeat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:29 pm
Outback.
Doesn't check either box... not two rows and not an SUV.

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Post by playtothebeat » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:49 pm

runner3081 wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:20 pm
playtothebeat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:29 pm
Outback.
Doesn't check either box... not two rows and not an SUV.
Definitely 2 rows (not 3). And whether an SUV or a wagon, that’s up to the buyer to decide I guess but i Think that’s splitting hairs a bit

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Re: SUV, 2 row, 40k USD

Post by 02nz » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:58 pm

playtothebeat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:49 pm
runner3081 wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:20 pm
playtothebeat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:29 pm
Outback.
Doesn't check either box... not two rows and not an SUV.
Definitely 2 rows (not 3). And whether an SUV or a wagon, that’s up to the buyer to decide I guess but i Think that’s splitting hairs a bit
I agree the Outback is close enough to an SUV (and a good choice). It used to just be a wagon on stilts, but they've made it more upright in recent years and now it's pretty close in stance to other SUVs.

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Re: SUV, 2 row, 40k USD

Post by 02nz » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:59 pm

Businesscasual wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:37 pm
If you can wait a few more months, the 2021 Toyota Venza looks sweet.
+1. The OP mentioned a used RX as a possibility; the new Venza is actually the Japanese-market successor to the car that used to be sold here as the RX.

OP, you mentioned a used Cayenne, but how about a used Macan? It's not that much smaller, and a better-looking and better-driving car than the Cayenne.

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Post by JonnyDVM » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:08 am

playtothebeat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:49 pm
runner3081 wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:20 pm
playtothebeat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:29 pm
Outback.
Doesn't check either box... not two rows and not an SUV.
Definitely 2 rows (not 3). And whether an SUV or a wagon, that’s up to the buyer to decide I guess but i Think that’s splitting hairs a bit
Agree with the Subaru recommendations. Go check out a dealership and kick the tires on the Outback, Forester, and Ascent. You might like what you see. As a guy who also was dissapointed in what Toyata is slinging these days, I was pleasantly surprised.
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Post by dukeblue219 » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:19 am

Test drive the Lexus, but it sounds like that's where you're headed. I drove the RAV4 in 2018 and was disappointed in the interior quality overall (ended up with a Camry XLE but wanted to try it). We have a 16 Outback and it's a fine car but also not luxury, even at the high end trim. It has a lot of engine and road noise, too.

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Post by bob60014 » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:30 am

I have a 2020 Rav 4 Hybrid Limited which I find to be reliable and comfortable. Once I mastered the electronics/safety features and knowing what it can and cannot do, I'm very happy with my choice. As a bonus I'm getting getting 42 mpg without trying.

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Post by L1tt1eMinon » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:54 pm

Rx 350 f sport is a nice medium. Reliability and fun to drive. I bought a 2016 cpo RX 350 Fsport and loving it. Is not a Porsche but knowing I have the reliability is more than enough.

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Post by McGilicutty » Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:09 pm

Beware of the low horsepower on a lot of the smaller SUVs. A lot of them only have around 200 horsepower which is a little underpowered in my opinion.
I went with the turbo-charged 4-cylinder Ford Escape because it has 245 hp.

However, with a $40K budget you should be able to get something much nicer that has decent hp.

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Post by msi » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:38 am

Clever_Username wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:16 pm
FrugalInvestor wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:34 pm
Take a look at the Mazda CX-9. It's a 3-row but definitely on the small size for that class - both in physical dimensions and in the way it handles. My wife thought a 3-row would feel too big for her but she loves it. It handles more like a sedan than a a SUV. It also has a lot of features/tech for the price. A great value in my book. Oh, and it looks great too!

We did a lot of comparison shopping looking for a vehicle we would both like and the CX-9 came out on top. My only concern in the end was reliability but as it turns out Mazda has upped its game in that area with the CX-9 too.
I literally logged in to make a post about buying a CX-5, which I am about to do. If money were no object (and/or if my budget were several thousands more), I'd get the CX-9. Both great cars.
Just curious, as someone in the market for the CX-5. Why would you consider buying a 3 row SUV like the CX-9 if you only need a 2 row? Just in case you wanted the extra storage?

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Post by Clever_Username » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:07 am

msi wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:38 am
Clever_Username wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:16 pm
FrugalInvestor wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:34 pm
Take a look at the Mazda CX-9. It's a 3-row but definitely on the small size for that class - both in physical dimensions and in the way it handles. My wife thought a 3-row would feel too big for her but she loves it. It handles more like a sedan than a a SUV. It also has a lot of features/tech for the price. A great value in my book. Oh, and it looks great too!

We did a lot of comparison shopping looking for a vehicle we would both like and the CX-9 came out on top. My only concern in the end was reliability but as it turns out Mazda has upped its game in that area with the CX-9 too.
I literally logged in to make a post about buying a CX-5, which I am about to do. If money were no object (and/or if my budget were several thousands more), I'd get the CX-9. Both great cars.
Just curious, as someone in the market for the CX-5. Why would you consider buying a 3 row SUV like the CX-9 if you only need a 2 row? Just in case you wanted the extra storage?
I think I'd literally need to be in the "money is no object" department, like having a 50x portfolio or something, to really consider the 3-row. I had been thinking that the CX-7 would be my next car until they stopped making it.
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Re: SUV, 2 row, 40k USD

Post by Pomegranate » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:18 am

sambb wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:17 pm
What would you get?
i liked the honda passport - but they say that the honda sensing is way off, and causes emergency braking on 2 lane roads with oncoming cars
Highlander is very nice 2020 version - but oh so boring -
Used cayenne for 45k 2017-8 CPO, is an option, but hard to get all the safety tech
palisade/telluride is super nice, but large and 3 row
rav4 hybrid is great.. but seems a little downscale.. subaru sort of the same.. own one already
used RX? or used lexus GX? GX maybe..
Just wait few more moths for Rav4 Prime... Should be a real monster :sharebeer

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Post by FrugalInvestor » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:19 am

msi wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:38 am
Clever_Username wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:16 pm
FrugalInvestor wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:34 pm
Take a look at the Mazda CX-9. It's a 3-row but definitely on the small size for that class - both in physical dimensions and in the way it handles. My wife thought a 3-row would feel too big for her but she loves it. It handles more like a sedan than a a SUV. It also has a lot of features/tech for the price. A great value in my book. Oh, and it looks great too!

We did a lot of comparison shopping looking for a vehicle we would both like and the CX-9 came out on top. My only concern in the end was reliability but as it turns out Mazda has upped its game in that area with the CX-9 too.
I literally logged in to make a post about buying a CX-5, which I am about to do. If money were no object (and/or if my budget were several thousands more), I'd get the CX-9. Both great cars.
Just curious, as someone in the market for the CX-5. Why would you consider buying a 3 row SUV like the CX-9 if you only need a 2 row? Just in case you wanted the extra storage?
In our case it was because the CX-9 turned out to be a nice compromise between space and features and was a superior value.

The cargo area of the CX-9 is very small when the 3rd row is in use so we leave it down 90+% of the time. We just put it up on the rare occasion that we take another couple with us - but it does give us that option and a nice large cargo area otherwise. The CX-9 also handles particularly well (which is typical for Mazda) so not only is it on the small side for a 3-row but it feels smaller when driving it as well. Finally, we comparison shopped with the new 2-row Acura RDX and for us the CX-9 was a superior value. It was at least $10,000 less but had the extra room and very comparable features and quality. I was surprised as well that we settled on it since a 2-row was what was originally on our radar.

Some would say that the Mazda and Acura don't compare because the Acura has a V-6 and the larger Mazda a turbo-4 but Mazda has done such an excellent job with the engine when it comes to low-end torque (300 ft. lb. flat torque curve) that when driving it you'd think it was a V-6 if not a V-8.

I was impressed with the CX-9 when we bought it and remain so 1-1/2 years later. I'm very glad that we got it.
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Post by Dmody91 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:23 am

We got the 2020 highlander limited with the bigger screen and chose it over the RX and the GX because of the updated technology. I love having apple carplay and that was a big selling point for me and we also needed something with 3 row capability occasionally but the highlander also has very good trunk size. I loved the way the rx f sport looks but it is just outdated at this point...same with the GX...and I don't have the cash to buy a 2020 for those models (50k+). We love our highlander so far and have put over 6k miles on it. I want great reliability so Toyota was the main brand I wanted to go with.

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Post by sambb » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:44 pm

Dmody91 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:23 am
We got the 2020 highlander limited with the bigger screen and chose it over the RX and the GX because of the updated technology. I love having apple carplay and that was a big selling point for me and we also needed something with 3 row capability occasionally but the highlander also has very good trunk size. I loved the way the rx f sport looks but it is just outdated at this point...same with the GX...and I don't have the cash to buy a 2020 for those models (50k+). We love our highlander so far and have put over 6k miles on it. I want great reliability so Toyota was the main brand I wanted to go with.
the v6 or the hybrid?

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Post by palanzo » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:48 pm

bikechuck wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:09 pm
sambb wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:17 pm
What would you get?
i liked the honda passport - but they say that the honda sensing is way off, and causes emergency braking on 2 lane roads with oncoming cars
Highlander is very nice 2020 version - but oh so boring -
Used cayenne for 45k 2017-8 CPO, is an option, but hard to get all the safety tech
palisade/telluride is super nice, but large and 3 row
rav4 hybrid is great.. but seems a little downscale.. subaru sort of the same.. own one already
used RX? or used lexus GX? GX maybe..
I have a 2020 Honda CRV and have not experienced problems with unwanted emergency braking on 2 lane roads. I hope that does not become an issue in the future and I doubt that it will.
Well the CRV is not the Passport and has a different Honda Sensing system.

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Post by palanzo » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:49 pm

02nz wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:58 pm
playtothebeat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:49 pm
runner3081 wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:20 pm
playtothebeat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:29 pm
Outback.
Doesn't check either box... not two rows and not an SUV.
Definitely 2 rows (not 3). And whether an SUV or a wagon, that’s up to the buyer to decide I guess but i Think that’s splitting hairs a bit
I agree the Outback is close enough to an SUV (and a good choice). It used to just be a wagon on stilts, but they've made it more upright in recent years and now it's pretty close in stance to other SUVs.
It's a lot lower.

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Post by theplayer11 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:01 pm

msi wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:38 am
Clever_Username wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:16 pm
FrugalInvestor wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:34 pm
Take a look at the Mazda CX-9. It's a 3-row but definitely on the small size for that class - both in physical dimensions and in the way it handles. My wife thought a 3-row would feel too big for her but she loves it. It handles more like a sedan than a a SUV. It also has a lot of features/tech for the price. A great value in my book. Oh, and it looks great too!

We did a lot of comparison shopping looking for a vehicle we would both like and the CX-9 came out on top. My only concern in the end was reliability but as it turns out Mazda has upped its game in that area with the CX-9 too.
I literally logged in to make a post about buying a CX-5, which I am about to do. If money were no object (and/or if my budget were several thousands more), I'd get the CX-9. Both great cars.
Just curious, as someone in the market for the CX-5. Why would you consider buying a 3 row SUV like the CX-9 if you only need a 2 row? Just in case you wanted the extra storage?
get the cx-5, you will love it, especially the turbo. Test drove many suvs. Cx-5 was hands down the best...if you actually like driving at all.

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Re: SUV, 2 row, 40k USD

Post by 02nz » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:05 pm

palanzo wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:49 pm
02nz wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:58 pm
playtothebeat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:49 pm
runner3081 wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:20 pm
playtothebeat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:29 pm
Outback.
Doesn't check either box... not two rows and not an SUV.
Definitely 2 rows (not 3). And whether an SUV or a wagon, that’s up to the buyer to decide I guess but i Think that’s splitting hairs a bit
I agree the Outback is close enough to an SUV (and a good choice). It used to just be a wagon on stilts, but they've made it more upright in recent years and now it's pretty close in stance to other SUVs.
It's a lot lower.
It is not. The 2020 Outback is 66.1 inches tall, about the same as the RAV4 (67.0), CR-V (66.1-66.5), and CX-5 (65.4). The Outback is longer, so it looks lower-slung. It's quite a bit taller than my '05 Outback (62), which was more of a wagon on stilts.

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Post by livesoft » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:25 pm

There is an Outback parked next to a RX-350 in my garage. They are basically identical in size. The Outback does have higher ground clearance, but that is just because the exhaust pipe of the Lexus drops down and up as is often the case for Toyotas.

So the OP wrote they have a Subaru, but did not indicate if they have one of the nicer ones. The Outback in my garage is more luxurious than the RX-350 in my garage.
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Post by palanzo » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:27 pm

02nz wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:05 pm
palanzo wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:49 pm
02nz wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:58 pm
playtothebeat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:49 pm
runner3081 wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:20 pm

Doesn't check either box... not two rows and not an SUV.
Definitely 2 rows (not 3). And whether an SUV or a wagon, that’s up to the buyer to decide I guess but i Think that’s splitting hairs a bit
I agree the Outback is close enough to an SUV (and a good choice). It used to just be a wagon on stilts, but they've made it more upright in recent years and now it's pretty close in stance to other SUVs.
It's a lot lower.
It is not. The 2020 Outback is 66.1 inches tall, about the same as the RAV4 (67.0), CR-V (66.1-66.5), and CX-5 (65.4). The Outback is longer, so it looks lower-slung. It's quite a bit taller than my '05 Outback (62), which was more of a wagon on stilts.
It most definitely is. The 66.1 (actually 66.4) is with those huge plasticy roof racks. Note that Subaru does not quote the height without the roof racks. Wonder why? Other manufacturers do. So the hip point on an Outback, even the 2020, is lower than CRV and the others.

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Re: SUV, 2 row, 40k USD

Post by yatesd » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:41 pm

I would at least look at a new or certified used Audi Q5. Drove one when these first came out and was very impressed.

https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-q5
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Post by yatesd » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:47 pm

A Lincoln might also work. The last few years they seem to have stepped up their game.

Lincoln Corsair
https://www.lincoln.com/luxury-crossovers/corsair/

BMW X3
https://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/x-model ... rview.html

Infiniti QX50
https://www.infinitiusa.com/vehicles/cr ... /qx50.html

Acura RDX
https://www.acura.com/rdx

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Re: SUV, 2 row, 40k USD

Post by shepherd » Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:08 pm

Hyundai Santa Fe Limited 2.0T

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Post by Zach3859 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:25 pm

It's hard to determine an SUV recommendation without knowing your personal needs. Such as kids, storage space needed, etc.

That said, I was in a similar position in early March and after months of research decided on the Kia Telluride EX premium package. The price was a hair under 40K and we absolutely love it. Captain chairs in the second row, over 20 cubic feet of storage space behind the third row, tons of safety features, extended warranty, and fun to drive. Hard to find something better in that price range.

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Post by anhonymous » Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:41 pm

Acura MDX or if you absolutely need it to be 2 row then Lexus RX whatever is latest.

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Post by inbox788 » Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:31 am

livesoft wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:25 pm
There is an Outback parked next to a RX-350 in my garage. They are basically identical in size. The Outback does have higher ground clearance, but that is just because the exhaust pipe of the Lexus drops down and up as is often the case for Toyotas.

So the OP wrote they have a Subaru, but did not indicate if they have one of the nicer ones. The Outback in my garage is more luxurious than the RX-350 in my garage.
Are they both gen 2020? Google says the RX is exactly 2" longer in all 3 dimensions. If the RX is 2015, it' 2" shorter and 1-2" more in the other 2 dimensions. Is a 2" difference indistinguishable side by side? I'd guess height would be the most noticeable one.
shepherd wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:08 pm
Hyundai Santa Fe Limited 2.0T
Lots of good choices here, but Palisades Lite is definitely one to look at. And one more completion is the Buick Enclave that hasn't been mentioned yet, in case you haven't decided or have time to exhaust all options.

Wannaretireearly
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Re: SUV, 2 row, 40k USD

Post by Wannaretireearly » Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:35 am

Love our Pallisade. Great value..great SUV
Buy Low, Sell High

bikechuck
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Re: SUV, 2 row, 40k USD

Post by bikechuck » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:00 pm

palanzo wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:48 pm
bikechuck wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:09 pm
sambb wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:17 pm
What would you get?
i liked the honda passport - but they say that the honda sensing is way off, and causes emergency braking on 2 lane roads with oncoming cars
Highlander is very nice 2020 version - but oh so boring -
Used cayenne for 45k 2017-8 CPO, is an option, but hard to get all the safety tech
palisade/telluride is super nice, but large and 3 row
rav4 hybrid is great.. but seems a little downscale.. subaru sort of the same.. own one already
used RX? or used lexus GX? GX maybe..
I have a 2020 Honda CRV and have not experienced problems with unwanted emergency braking on 2 lane roads. I hope that does not become an issue in the future and I doubt that it will.
Well the CRV is not the Passport and has a different Honda Sensing system.
I apologise if sharing my experience offended you.
I think that they do use the same sensing system in both vehicles and I hoped that sharing my experience might be helpful. I guess there could be some differences due to the height of the sensors that the system relies on but I doubt that makes much of a difference.

My Honda is a one month old infant and this thread scared me a bit so last weekend I visited a garden in Central Ohio and drove for 3 hours (round trip) on two lane state highways and narrow county roads. The system did not "act up" in my vehicle.

Some video reviews of the CRV and Pilot do say that the system for emergency braking "is aggressive" but it has not been a problem for me. It would be interesting to hear from some Pilot owners whose experience would be more relevant than mine.

Big Worm
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Re: SUV, 2 row, 40k USD

Post by Big Worm » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:13 pm

bikechuck wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:09 pm
sambb wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:17 pm
What would you get?
i liked the honda passport - but they say that the honda sensing is way off, and causes emergency braking on 2 lane roads with oncoming cars
Highlander is very nice 2020 version - but oh so boring -
Used cayenne for 45k 2017-8 CPO, is an option, but hard to get all the safety tech
palisade/telluride is super nice, but large and 3 row
rav4 hybrid is great.. but seems a little downscale.. subaru sort of the same.. own one already
used RX? or used lexus GX? GX maybe..
I have a 2020 Honda CRV and have not experienced problems with unwanted emergency braking on 2 lane roads. I hope that does not become an issue in the future and I doubt that it will.
My Honda does it once in a blue moon on a curvy road. I think I turned the sensor off though? :shock:

palanzo
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Re: SUV, 2 row, 40k USD

Post by palanzo » Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:40 pm

bikechuck wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:00 pm
palanzo wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:48 pm
bikechuck wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:09 pm
sambb wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:17 pm
What would you get?
i liked the honda passport - but they say that the honda sensing is way off, and causes emergency braking on 2 lane roads with oncoming cars
Highlander is very nice 2020 version - but oh so boring -
Used cayenne for 45k 2017-8 CPO, is an option, but hard to get all the safety tech
palisade/telluride is super nice, but large and 3 row
rav4 hybrid is great.. but seems a little downscale.. subaru sort of the same.. own one already
used RX? or used lexus GX? GX maybe..
I have a 2020 Honda CRV and have not experienced problems with unwanted emergency braking on 2 lane roads. I hope that does not become an issue in the future and I doubt that it will.
Well the CRV is not the Passport and has a different Honda Sensing system.
I apologise if sharing my experience offended you.
I think that they do use the same sensing system in both vehicles and I hoped that sharing my experience might be helpful. I guess there could be some differences due to the height of the sensors that the system relies on but I doubt that makes much of a difference.

My Honda is a one month old infant and this thread scared me a bit so last weekend I visited a garden in Central Ohio and drove for 3 hours (round trip) on two lane state highways and narrow county roads. The system did not "act up" in my vehicle.

Some video reviews of the CRV and Pilot do say that the system for emergency braking "is aggressive" but it has not been a problem for me. It would be interesting to hear from some Pilot owners whose experience would be more relevant than mine.
I'm not offended at all but you are not correct about the sensing systems in CRV and Passport. The Honda Sensing is different generations in CRV and Passport. For example, CRV has Adaptive Cruise Control with Low-Speed Follow. The Low-Speed Follow function can bring the vehicle to a complete stop when a vehicle detected ahead slows to a stop, and it lets you resume operation by pressing a button or the accelerator.

Passport does not have this system and cannot do this. From memory the ACC on Passport cuts out below 20 mph.

There are other differences as well.

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Re: SUV, 2 row, 40k USD

Post by inbox788 » Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:47 pm

bikechuck wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:00 pm
I apologise if sharing my experience offended you.
I think that they do use the same sensing system in both vehicles and I hoped that sharing my experience might be helpful. I guess there could be some differences due to the height of the sensors that the system relies on but I doubt that makes much of a difference.

My Honda is a one month old infant and this thread scared me a bit so last weekend I visited a garden in Central Ohio and drove for 3 hours (round trip) on two lane state highways and narrow county roads. The system did not "act up" in my vehicle.

Some video reviews of the CRV and Pilot do say that the system for emergency braking "is aggressive" but it has not been a problem for me. It would be interesting to hear from some Pilot owners whose experience would be more relevant than mine.
Not acting up for 3 hours is nothing. We drive millions of hours! Nothing should be showing up in 3 hours, or we're all in a lot of trouble.

I hope this isn't as bad as the airbags negating some of the lives saved from not taking into account passenger size or shards.

The active technology is still young, and the manufacturers have incentive to tell you it's working, so it's not surprising they're set to "aggressive". I know several folks that claimed the active emergency braking has saved them from accidents, some more than once, and these are drivers with clean 10+ years histories, so either they're mistaken and would have avoided accidents themselves, or they are driving a lot more aggressively (recklessly) counting on the car to save them. I'm afraid it might be more the latter.

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Re: SUV, 2 row, 40k USD

Post by zimmer0 » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:37 pm

would throw the Ford Explorer Limited/Platinum with the Ecoboost in the ring as welll.

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