[Netflix:] Can We Talk About Tiger King: Murder, Mayhem and Madness?

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Post by RJC » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:10 pm

Dear friends,

I'm only on episode 3 but this is the craziest show I've seen in quite a while. It's on Netflix and is a good distraction while you hunker in place.

Have you seen it? What do you think?
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Post by ChicagoSparty » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:11 pm

If you are only on ep 3 just wait......it gets much crazier. Highly recommended.

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Post by donall » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:13 pm

I could not watch after episode 1. Could not write fiction this unbelievable.

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Post by RJC » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:14 pm

donall wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:13 pm
I could not watch after episode 1. Could not write fiction this unbelievable.
haha it's really hard to believe!

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Post by mrsbetsy » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:49 pm

Here's a response from Carole's husband, Howard. I've seen so many memes and jabs at all the people and I think it's just so unkind. Imagine that Netflix might spend 5 years shooting a series, then splice and dice it to make it sound so sensational. Carol and Howard naively thought it would be something like Blackfish and they would be the good guys in the documentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... 4MoRriI9HU


I did watch the whole series yesterday and found it incredibly sad.

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Post by oldmotos » Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:58 pm

We finished watching the series last night - pretty wild bunch of characters! I was hoping for an answer to what happened to Carole's husband who disappeared.

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Post by MotoTrojan » Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:07 pm

oldmotos wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:58 pm
We finished watching the series last night - pretty wild bunch of characters! I was hoping for an answer to what happened to Carole's husband who disappeared.
It was quite obvious to me, but editing can do funny things. His family’s statements are compelling.

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Post by Laker1 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:13 pm

You cant make this stuff up...LOL...here kitty, kitty...

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Post by RJC » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:21 pm

It really gets even more unbelievable every episode. Just a wild cast of characters.

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Post by Blue456 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:35 pm

oldmotos wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:58 pm
We finished watching the series last night - pretty wild bunch of characters! I was hoping for an answer to what happened to Carole's husband who disappeared.
Isn't obvious? He got eaten by a tiger.

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Post by Foredeck » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:52 pm

Made it to episode 3 and decided, "That's enough."

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Post by dru808 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:04 pm

Don’t understand why at least 3 of them being felons prior to filming would want to be on camera carrying firearms.

I came away not trusting a word any of them said, except maybe the guy with no legs. Wonder why the feds did not contact no legs guy?
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Post by jabberwockOG » Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:09 pm

Watched episode 1 this weekend. Depressing to think this is modern day America for so many. Explains a lot. Don’t need to see any more.

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Post by hbdad » Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:25 pm

This show is awesome! And Joe Exotic is a good singer to boot!

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Post by WL2034 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:43 pm

I'm just starting the show, but if anyone is interested in podcasts this story was covered by a podcast: "Over My Dead Body: Joe Exotic". It's season 2 of Over My Dead Body.

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Post by JackieBog46 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:08 am

Why not watch Heartland on Netflix? It's a Canadian show that's full of excitement with realistic stories, tons of humor, romance and wonder - not crazy dystopian madness like Tiger King. People will still be watching it in 50 years, long after Tiger King is gone. You have to watch the first 3 (not just 2) shows to get hooked because the lead character doesn't understand her gift of communicating with horses until show #3. Then, the show really takes off. Enjoy!

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Post by Jags4186 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:33 am

This show is absolutely amazing. I watch all 7 episodes in 1 sitting yesterday—I just couldn’t turn away. One reviewer said that Joe Exotic may not have a career in zookeeping anymore, but he could easily get a job with the WWE. Another wrote it’s like watch a slow motion car wreck, where the car hits a jet plan which tumbles into an oil tanker.

I was happy to read an AMA on Reddit by a former employee who said that many of the things said about Joe in the documentary were not true, at least for a long time. For example, he did start people at $150/wk but those were usually people who he picked off up the street, homeless, ex-cons, etc. If they worked they quickly received real wages. The person in the AMA said he was making $600/wk and that the trailers where people stayed (for free) were actually decent, at least for the 8 years he worked for Joe. Additionally there were folks making $1000/wk working for Joe.

While Joe was crazy, I did feel kind of bad for him. That Carol did destroy his livelihood (apparently the mall tours were the big money makers) which I’m sure put massive stress on him. She was no different than Joe, Doc, or Jeff.
hbdad wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:25 pm
This show is awesome! And Joe Exotic is a good singer to boot!
Unfortunately, I learned on Reddit that it wasn’t his real voice.

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Post by cnblure » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:35 am

It reminded me of Game of Thrones.

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Post by BW1985 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:40 am

Jags4186 wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:33 am
She was no different than Joe, Doc, or Jeff.
She doesn't breed cubs, that's a huge difference.
Jags4186 wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:33 am
Unfortunately, I learned on Reddit that it wasn’t his real voice.
I thought that was pretty obvious listening to it lol
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Post by AZAttorney11 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:41 am

One of the most troubling aspects to me is that only Joe is in prison. I’m not entirely convinced he should be there based on what I saw on the show, although I wasn’t a juror and didn’t get to see the evidence against him.

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Post by Jags4186 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:42 am

BW1985 wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:40 am
Jags4186 wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:33 am
She was no different than Joe, Doc, or Jeff.
She doesn't breed cubs, that's a huge difference.
She claims she doesn’t breed cubs. From what I saw, all of these folks are unreliable narrators. Would you believe a woman who murdered her husband, ground up his body, and fed him to her tigers? :wink:
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Post by AZAttorney11 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:42 am

BW1985 wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:40 am
Jags4186 wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:33 am
She was no different than Joe, Doc, or Jeff.
She doesn't breed cubs, that's a huge difference.
Jags4186 wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:33 am
Unfortunately, I learned on Reddit that it wasn’t his real voice.
I thought that was pretty obvious listening to it lol
I’m 99% sure she was breeding cubs, at least initially.

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Post by BW1985 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:49 am

AZAttorney11 wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:42 am
I’m 99% sure she was breeding cubs, at least initially.
What makes you so sure?
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Post by AZAttorney11 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:51 am

BW1985 wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:49 am
AZAttorney11 wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:42 am
I’m 99% sure she was breeding cubs, at least initially.
What makes you so sure?
I believe she said as much during one of the episodes.

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Post by Jags4186 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:52 am

BW1985 wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:49 am
AZAttorney11 wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:42 am
I’m 99% sure she was breeding cubs, at least initially.
What makes you so sure?
According to this https://www.bcrwatch.com/rebuttal-to-ca ... -past.html she was breeding openly until at least 2001.

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Post by Rob5TCP » Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:15 am

I have not seen Tiger King yet, but i am a donor (was) and quite familiar with Big Cat Rescue.
I was at BCR about 2 years ago and made a contribution last year. I usually start small $100 and increase (sometimes substantially) if I find positive things about the charity. They had 4 stars on Charity Navigator.

I was going to give them a positive Yelp review - then I saw this site: https://www.bcrwatch.com/finances.html
as well as abuse allegations (of the animals) https://www.bcrwatch.com/abuse.html

i thought this place was a shoe string (relatively small cages for the larger cats- all 4 of them) and somewhat smaller cages for the majority - which were small cats. I had no idea this was a multi million dollar operation with a $10 or $11 million dollar surplus; that has their animals in "backyard cages". I read several years 990's and was flawed. While I liked they only took $130k in salary for both; where was all the other money going to ?

I doubt this documentary from Netflix is going to give me the warm fuzzes about BCR, so my contribution last year is my first and last.
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Post by Lookingforanswers » Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:33 am

My wife is convinced that the fact that I watched this (and loved it) is a sure sign that working from home is driving me crazy.

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Post by GerryL » Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:35 pm

I added Tiger King to my Netflix watchlist when it showed up. I'd heard about Joe Exotic over the years from my sanctuary friends. But now that I've been reading their comments on the docuseries, I am less inclined to watch it. They say it's hard to watch and that much of his craziness is not even exposed. More entertainment than actual expose.

BTW, two chimps apparently featured in the program, Joe and Bo, have found a home at one of the ape sanctuaries I support. REAL sanctuaries. I saw them lolling around in their spacious habitat while I was at the Center for Great Apes volunteering for 10 days earlier this month.

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Post by cs412a » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:43 am

GerryL wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:35 pm
I added Tiger King to my Netflix watchlist when it showed up. I'd heard about Joe Exotic over the years from my sanctuary friends. But now that I've been reading their comments on the docuseries, I am less inclined to watch it. They say it's hard to watch and that much of his craziness is not even exposed. More entertainment than actual expose.

BTW, two chimps apparently featured in the program, Joe and Bo, have found a home at one of the ape sanctuaries I support. REAL sanctuaries. I saw them lolling around in their spacious habitat while I was at the Center for Great Apes volunteering for 10 days earlier this month.
If you care about animals, I'm sure it's difficult to watch. The show has definitely raised my awareness of the need to determine which animal sanctuaries are worth supporting and which are not. "Big Cat Rescue" seems more like a sham, despite it's 4-star Charity Navigator rating.

For people like me, who are not knowledgeable in this area, what should we be on the lookout for in determining whether or not an animal sanctuary is what it claims to be?

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Post by GerryL » Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:32 pm

cs412a wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:43 am
GerryL wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:35 pm
I added Tiger King to my Netflix watchlist when it showed up. I'd heard about Joe Exotic over the years from my sanctuary friends. But now that I've been reading their comments on the docuseries, I am less inclined to watch it. They say it's hard to watch and that much of his craziness is not even exposed. More entertainment than actual expose.

BTW, two chimps apparently featured in the program, Joe and Bo, have found a home at one of the ape sanctuaries I support. REAL sanctuaries. I saw them lolling around in their spacious habitat while I was at the Center for Great Apes volunteering for 10 days earlier this month.
If you care about animals, I'm sure it's difficult to watch. The show has definitely raised my awareness of the need to determine which animal sanctuaries are worth supporting and which are not. "Big Cat Rescue" seems more like a sham, despite it's 4-star Charity Navigator rating.

For people like me, who are not knowledgeable in this area, what should we be on the lookout for in determining whether or not an animal sanctuary is what it claims to be?
Anyone can call their facility a "sanctuary." (Sort of like anyone calling themselves a financial planner.) You do need to do some investigation to understand their mission and then dig deeper to see if their actions match up.

A few clues:
A sanctuary is not a zoo that is open to the public. A real sanctuary may have a limited number of days when it invites supporters to visit the facility, but it is not designed for the public and does not rely on "entrance fees" to operate.
And related to that, a sanctuary does not offer "take your photo with a …" opportunities. It is NOT a petting zoo. Its existence is for the good of the animals, and is not a money-making venture.
A sanctuary does not breed animals. There may be an occasional accidental birth, but there is no breeding program to create more "product."

You might check to see what associations it belongs to and then see what it takes to be part of that association, e.g., pay a fee or agree to follow specific guidelines. I could offer insight about primate sanctuaries, but I don't have any specific insights about those for other animals.

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Post by GerryL » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:26 pm

A somewhat balanced take on Tiger King docuseries from Slate:

Tiger King Chose the Wrong Villain
Why does a series about animal mistreatment make an animal welfare crusader its villain?

https://slate.com/culture/2020/03/tiger ... 4rJBcFnW58

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mrsbetsy wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:49 pm
...Carol and Howard naively thought it would be something like Blackfish and they would be the good guys in the documentary.

....

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Well, of course they did. I found her to be the most despicable of the bunch, and that is saying something.

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Post by GerryL » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:47 pm

bberris wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:29 pm
mrsbetsy wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:49 pm
...Carol and Howard naively thought it would be something like Blackfish and they would be the good guys in the documentary.

....

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Mrs. Betsy
Well, of course they did. I found her to be the most despicable of the bunch, and that is saying something.
Do a little research. (See the Slate link I posted above.) The film makers needed a villain, so they made one. Maybe so the title character could be the outlandish fun guy, they made "the woman" the baddie.

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Post by New Providence » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:48 pm

Joe ended up 3rd out of 12 on the race for governor.

He reminds me very much of someone, but can't quite put my finger on it... :wink:

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Post by AZAttorney11 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:50 pm

GerryL wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:47 pm
bberris wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:29 pm
mrsbetsy wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:49 pm
...Carol and Howard naively thought it would be something like Blackfish and they would be the good guys in the documentary.

....

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Mrs. Betsy
Well, of course they did. I found her to be the most despicable of the bunch, and that is saying something.
Do a little research. (See the Slate link I posted above.) The film makers needed a villain, so they made one. Maybe so the title character could be the outlandish fun guy, they made "the woman" the baddie.
Based on your prior posts, it doesn't appear you've watched the series. I'd watch the series and review the links Rob5TCP posted above. The film makers didn't need a villain. There are plenty of them to go around in this cottage industry.

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New Providence wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:48 pm
Joe ended up 3rd out of 12 on the race for governor.

He reminds me very much of someone, but can't quite put my finger on it... :wink:
I believe he finished 3rd out of 12th in the Libertarian party's primary in Oklahoma.

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Post by AZAttorney11 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:52 pm

bberris wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:29 pm
mrsbetsy wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:49 pm
...Carol and Howard naively thought it would be something like Blackfish and they would be the good guys in the documentary.

....

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Mrs. Betsy
Well, of course they did. I found her to be the most despicable of the bunch, and that is saying something.
+1

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Post by New Providence » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:57 pm

AZAttorney11 wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:51 pm
New Providence wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:48 pm
Joe ended up 3rd out of 12 on the race for governor.

He reminds me very much of someone, but can't quite put my finger on it... :wink:
I believe he finished 3rd out of 12th in the Libertarian party's primary in Oklahoma.
Yes, you are correct.

BTW, found out the the reality wanna-be director's house caught fire 6 months after the studio's fire. He was big shot producer, but lost job due to his crack addition.

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Post by StevieG72 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:39 pm

Meh....

I absolutely love movies / shows based on true stories as they call them, however I watched episode 1 and don’t see what the fuss is about.

Did not find the story that outrageous as some have commented. Peeked at episode 3, skipped 2 and threw in the towel after about 5 min.
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Post by abuss368 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:47 pm

I have some of these in my list! Looking forward to.
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Post by StormShadow » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:49 pm

Binged through the first three episodes last night. I shouldn’t enjoy watching it, but I just can’t seem to stop!

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Post by bberris » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:02 pm

GerryL wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:47 pm
bberris wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:29 pm
mrsbetsy wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:49 pm
...Carol and Howard naively thought it would be something like Blackfish and they would be the good guys in the documentary.

....

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Mrs. Betsy
Well, of course they did. I found her to be the most despicable of the bunch, and that is saying something.
Do a little research. (See the Slate link I posted above.) The film makers needed a villain, so they made one. Maybe so the title character could be the outlandish fun guy, they made "the woman" the baddie.
Joe and Bhagavan are at least honest freaks about their unusual habits, past, and animal exploitation. Need a villain? No shortage there. Carol, on the other hand, is an obvious liar. No editing was necessary to display her affectations that reveal the lying (laughing, looking away, failure to engage). Yes she killed her husband. Yes she exploits wild animals pretending to rescue them. And sanctimoniously pretends to be better than the rest.
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Post by ddurrett896 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:20 pm

Loved the part when Joe got perfume sprayed on his shoes and he said they were trying to kill him and Carole was quick to say “it’s not like the used sardine oil.”

It’s almost as if she had done it before...

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Post by cs412a » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:42 pm

GerryL wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:32 pm
cs412a wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:43 am
GerryL wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:35 pm
I added Tiger King to my Netflix watchlist when it showed up. I'd heard about Joe Exotic over the years from my sanctuary friends. But now that I've been reading their comments on the docuseries, I am less inclined to watch it. They say it's hard to watch and that much of his craziness is not even exposed. More entertainment than actual expose.

BTW, two chimps apparently featured in the program, Joe and Bo, have found a home at one of the ape sanctuaries I support. REAL sanctuaries. I saw them lolling around in their spacious habitat while I was at the Center for Great Apes volunteering for 10 days earlier this month.
If you care about animals, I'm sure it's difficult to watch. The show has definitely raised my awareness of the need to determine which animal sanctuaries are worth supporting and which are not. "Big Cat Rescue" seems more like a sham, despite it's 4-star Charity Navigator rating.

For people like me, who are not knowledgeable in this area, what should we be on the lookout for in determining whether or not an animal sanctuary is what it claims to be?
Anyone can call their facility a "sanctuary." (Sort of like anyone calling themselves a financial planner.) You do need to do some investigation to understand their mission and then dig deeper to see if their actions match up.

A few clues:
A sanctuary is not a zoo that is open to the public. A real sanctuary may have a limited number of days when it invites supporters to visit the facility, but it is not designed for the public and does not rely on "entrance fees" to operate.
And related to that, a sanctuary does not offer "take your photo with a …" opportunities. It is NOT a petting zoo. Its existence is for the good of the animals, and is not a money-making venture.
A sanctuary does not breed animals. There may be an occasional accidental birth, but there is no breeding program to create more "product."

You might check to see what associations it belongs to and then see what it takes to be part of that association, e.g., pay a fee or agree to follow specific guidelines. I could offer insight about primate sanctuaries, but I don't have any specific insights about those for other animals.
Thanks for the information, it's helpful.

You mentioned that "A sanctuary is not a zoo that is open to the public. A real sanctuary may have a limited number of days when it invites supporters to visit the facility, but it is not designed for the public and does not rely on 'entrance fees' to operate."

For instance, the Center for Great Apes that you mentioned has a membership program, and members are allowed 2 visits per year during the sanctuary’s Annual Spring Member Day Fundraiser and the Holiday Member Open House Fundraiser.

Contrast this with Big Cat Rescue, which states on its website (https://big-cat-rescue.myshopify.com/bl ... t-the-cats): "Visit the cats by booking a tour at bigcatrescue.org/tickets. At Big Cat Rescue we offer a variety of educational tours such as Day Tours, Kids Tours, Private Tours, Photo Tours, Keeper Tours, Feeding Tours and more!!"

The links to ticket purchases aren't functioning, but this isn't surprising since the facility is currently closed to the public due to the pandemic. I could be wrong, but both the Netflix series and the Big Cat Rescue website itself suggest to me that this particular sanctuary is designed as a money-making enterprise.

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Re: [Netflix:] Can We Talk About Tiger King: Murder, Mayhem and Madness?

Post by RJC » Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:47 pm

StormShadow wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:49 pm
Binged through the first three episodes last night. I shouldn’t enjoy watching it, but I just can’t seem to stop!
Same. It's a slow moving train-wreck every episode!

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Re: [Netflix:] Can We Talk About Tiger King: Murder, Mayhem and Madness?

Post by iamblessed » Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:56 pm

I watched a couple of the shows. What I came away with is do you want to give you money to Joe or Carol. Looks they are doing the same thing. LOL I think I will go back and watch Doomsday Preppers. It shocks me to see the money that is spent on these ideas.

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