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Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by Bigfish » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:00 am

DW and I are scheduled to fly to Ecuador in mid February for a trip to the Galapagos. Apparently there has been some issues there and currently there is a travel advisory due to "civil unrest". I have only sent a small deposit at this point but the full payment is due within three weeks, we do plan on purchasing travel insurance. The travel company says it is still a go, should we be concerned?

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Post by neilpilot » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:39 am

There’s a Level 2 travel advisory, which the direction to “exercise increased caution “. A L2 is currently also issued for the UK, Spain and many other countries. If it was L4 you’re decision would be easier.

Suggest you read the text of the advisory if you haven’t already. I would likely go, assuming the agency you booked through is experienced and well organized.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel ... isory.html

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Post by Silk McCue » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:39 am

February is a long time from now in terms of these type of conditions. The protests ended in October but of course things can change at any time. If you purchase a Travel Insurance Policy that would protect against this I would say you should continue with your plans.

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Post by TallBoy29er » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:00 am

I've traveled to a few South American countries (Ecuador included), and it seems to me that this type of thing is relatively common. I would not let it deter me from traveling to Ecuador. And if the State Dept travel advisory is only level 2....blah, that is nothing, as the prior poster mentioned (avoid the UK at all costs....????).

It's a beautiful country, with amazing things to do outdoors.

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Post by TomatoTomahto » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:06 am

You will be fine. If you’re going to be in Quito overnight, a common situation in transit to Galapagos, I would be extra careful after dark. Some neighborhoods can get seedy pretty quickly, even if they were fine at noon.
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Post by magicrat » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:10 am

These types of protests are routine. Do guard against getting robbed though. When my wife and I were in Quito, someone squirted mustard on my backpack then some "helpful" person appeared and offered to take me to a public bathroom (down a narrow, desolate alley). We declined of course. From my research these types of things are quite common.

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Post by cbeck » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:11 am

My wife and I went to Galapagos and Quito in 2011. The return flight from Quito to Miami left early in the morning so we were checked in and were waiting at the gate by 5 AM. Suddenly, I heard my name called to go to the counter where a man not wearing any uniform told me to follow him. He led me out of the passenger waiting area down a winding path in the dark. Eventually, he dropped me off at what appeared to be the internal baggage handling area where I could see my suitcase on a table behind which was a man in a police uniform. There was no one else present. The man did not identify himself and wore no badge. He told me that he was going to search my suitcase. I nodded as he did so. Apparently, he was watching me to see if I acted nervously while he did a brief search. I was indeed nervous, not because there were any drugs in my suitcase, but because he could easily put them there if he wanted to or demand money from me or whatever. The search was over in a few minutes and I had to find my way back to the passenger waiting area. One of the scariest experiences I have ever had.

Quito was dangerous. Common advice was not to hail a cab, but only to get the hotel to call one for you, lest you be kidnapped. Walking in the marketplace in the middle of the day accompanied by a private tour guide we got stares from young men who looked like they were trying to figure out if there was some way they could rob us.

Too bad, because Galapagos was a wonderful trip, although even there when traveling by van we noticed that houses had bars on the windows. I wouldn't go back to Ecuador.

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Post by Trader Joe » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:16 am

Bigfish wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:00 am
DW and I are scheduled to fly to Ecuador in mid February for a trip to the Galapagos. Apparently there has been some issues there and currently there is a travel advisory due to "civil unrest". I have only sent a small deposit at this point but the full payment is due within three weeks, we do plan on purchasing travel insurance. The travel company says it is still a go, should we be concerned?
No, I would not travel to Ecuador. It is not safe. Definitely not worth the risk.

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Post by TomatoTomahto » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:41 am

Admittedly it was a decade ago, but still, the Galapagos were worth the few minutes of anxiety when we went out late in the evening in Quito. It was quickly clear that we had not made a wise choice to walk around without a destination, so we went back to our bohemian hotel. We were on a small private boat tour (iirc, 11 passengers and 8 crew, including a naturalist), so there was no anxiety once in the Galapagos. We also spent a few nights in an island hotel, without a concern or worry.

I think it is definitely worth it if you have booked a small vessel. I hear that cruise ships are now going to the Galapagos, and I personally would not do that kind of trip. Between the naturalist, and the passengers (who were all interesting people in their own right (Australian surgeons, retired overseas State Department, a photographer, and the Tomahto family of 5), we really enjoyed being up close to this historic location.

One of our top two trips (Mala Mala safari was the other).
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Post by TallBoy29er » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:22 pm

Trader Joe wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:16 am
Bigfish wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:00 am
DW and I are scheduled to fly to Ecuador in mid February for a trip to the Galapagos. Apparently there has been some issues there and currently there is a travel advisory due to "civil unrest". I have only sent a small deposit at this point but the full payment is due within three weeks, we do plan on purchasing travel insurance. The travel company says it is still a go, should we be concerned?
No, I would not travel to Ecuador. It is not safe. Definitely not worth the risk.
It's alarming that so many people travel to the US, they probably wouldn't if they watched the news or read our papers.

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Post by Walkure » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:51 pm

While the recent unrest was more violent than a typical protest (which, as other posters have pointed out, are fairly routine) I would not expect this to be the sort of thing that will recur without a much better coordinated and rapid response from the authorities, who were caught largely unprepared in part because they failed to distinguish it from a garden variety protest. On the whole, Ecuador is ordinarily quite peaceful and has made tremendous strides in a very short time, so I would discount the stories from a decade ago.

Also, as some have pointed out, there is not really any risk of problems in the Galapagos themselves, which are sparsely inhabited and totally dependent on tourism, so it's only a quick transfer from the airport in Quito that would have the potential for issues. The new airport is outside the city and there is at least one hotel, I believe it's a Wyndham, that is right across the street so you wouldn't even need to enter the city proper unless you wished to.

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Post by leeks » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:01 pm

I highly recommend traveling to Ecuador, fantastic country!

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Post by Trapper » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:06 pm

I have friends that just returned from Equador and the Galapagos four weeks ago (October 2019) and they had a blast and no issues. It was a bucket list trip for them. I say go for it.

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Post by FIBoston » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:10 pm

Trader Joe wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:16 am
Bigfish wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:00 am
DW and I are scheduled to fly to Ecuador in mid February for a trip to the Galapagos. Apparently there has been some issues there and currently there is a travel advisory due to "civil unrest". I have only sent a small deposit at this point but the full payment is due within three weeks, we do plan on purchasing travel insurance. The travel company says it is still a go, should we be concerned?
No, I would not travel to Ecuador. It is not safe. Definitely not worth the risk.
Ecuador homicde rate: 5.7 per 1000
US homicide rate: 5.3 per 1000

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Post by SrGrumpy » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:23 pm

The hotel will give you a Quito city map, and draw the no-go boundaries for you. It's a cute city, and I had the best sushi ever, at Shibumi. Hiking is also fun. Nights were spent inside catching up on Downton Abbey. So that was fine by me. It may be hard for the infirm, but in any country try not to look like an easy target.

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Post by fortfun » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:26 pm

Bigfish wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:00 am
DW and I are scheduled to fly to Ecuador in mid February for a trip to the Galapagos. Apparently there has been some issues there and currently there is a travel advisory due to "civil unrest". I have only sent a small deposit at this point but the full payment is due within three weeks, we do plan on purchasing travel insurance. The travel company says it is still a go, should we be concerned?
You will be fine. If you are worried, just stay at a hotel near the airport. Enjoy GI! We spent 9 nights there in June. It was wonderful!

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Post by TomatoTomahto » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:33 pm

SrGrumpy wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:23 pm
Hiking is also fun. Nights were spent inside catching up on Downton Abbey. So that was fine by me. It may be hard for the infirm...
Quito is 9350 feet above sea level, so it should be borne in mind for those with compromised breathing. Even some otherwise healthy people don’t respond well to elevations, sometimes getting headaches, becoming easily winded, or similar symptoms. Still worth it. :D
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Post by kramer » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:36 pm

I have traveled all over the world including to many places that folks consider unsafe. I can say that Quito is definitely not a safe city for a foreigner after dark or at anytime really. That being said, I would definitely not cancel your trip ... for me, it wouldn't even be a close call. But exercise extreme caution in Quito and *especially* after dark, there are a lot of muggings. I loved the food there. Do not take public transport there either (especially female alone).

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Post by Random Musings » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:05 pm

TallBoy29er wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:22 pm
Trader Joe wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:16 am
Bigfish wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:00 am
DW and I are scheduled to fly to Ecuador in mid February for a trip to the Galapagos. Apparently there has been some issues there and currently there is a travel advisory due to "civil unrest". I have only sent a small deposit at this point but the full payment is due within three weeks, we do plan on purchasing travel insurance. The travel company says it is still a go, should we be concerned?
No, I would not travel to Ecuador. It is not safe. Definitely not worth the risk.
It's alarming that so many people travel to the US, they probably wouldn't if they watched the news or read our papers.
It's all about location and local knowledge. For example, when I lived in Philly, I avoided North Philly. When I lived in St. Louis, I avoided East St. Louis and North St. Louis. Problem is, I don't have knowledge about Ecuador. Best info, IMHO, would come from a reliable source that lives or knows about the areas one is planning to visit. However, civil unrest can "move" a little more than neighborhoods.

Purchasing travel insurance sounds like a reasonable hedge.

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Post by siamond » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:24 pm

Going to the Galapagos a few years ago was the trip of a lifetime for me. Canceling such a trip because of fears of what might happen during a few hours in Ecuador seems totally out of proportions.

OP, if you're truly nervous, just stay in your hotel room in Ecuador while waiting for transit, read a book, get some sleep and be done with it, come on. But please, oh please, don't cancel such an extraordinary trip...

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Post by CZjc1330 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:39 pm

I would not go. A colleague prof. took a group and his wife. They were in a bus at night time, stopped by road side bandits, his wife who spoke Spanish began to complain to the bandits. One of them a young men pulled out a gun and shot her dead! Everybody was robbed, the girls were fondled, etc.
They had been warned by hotel personnel not to travel by night. But they went on the nocturnal tour nonetheless. This was 5 years ago -- case has never been solved. And obviously before the recent riots. I would not go.

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Post by Silk McCue » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:43 pm

CZjc1330 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:39 pm
I would not go. A colleague prof. took a group and his wife. They were in a bus at night time, stopped by road side bandits, his wife who spoke Spanish began to complain to the bandits. One of them a young men pulled out a gun and shot her dead! Everybody was robbed, the girls were fondled, etc.
They had been warned by hotel personnel not to travel by night. But they went on the nocturnal tour nonetheless. This was 5 years ago -- case has never been solved. And obviously before the recent riots. I would not go.
A horrible story indeed. But with your logic no one should travel to the United States as tourists get killed here.

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Post by CZjc1330 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:16 pm

Don't twist my words. I reported on what actually happened. Further, Ecuador has had many incidents of lawlessness. More than other Latin American countries. It just has,

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Post by CZjc1330 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:26 pm

I reported on what actually happened. Ecuador has had many incidents of lawlessness. More than other Latin American countries. It just has. I have lived in 14 Latin American countries, my Ph. D. is in Latin American history. I have followed that part of the world for over 60 years, I'm pushing 85. Some consider me an authority. Two of my 7 books which dealt with Latin America were identified as"essential reading" by the Library of Congress.
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Post by Silk McCue » Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:31 pm

CZjc1330 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:16 pm
Don't twist my words. I reported on what actually happened. Further, Ecuador has had many incidents of lawlessness. More than other Latin American countries. It just has,
I didn’t twist your words at all. There was no need to share this story and tell them not to go because your colleague and friends did something tragically stupid. You can get killed anywhere and you need to exercise common sense wherever you go.

Ecuador doesn’t even have a city in the top 10. I was on a Medical and Construction missions trip in #7 in March of this year. The compound where we stayed far outside the city had armed guards with pump shotguns at the gated entrance when we returned at night. I never felt unsafe.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/mos ... erica.html

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Post by cbeck » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:01 am

Here's the travel advice for Ecuador from the UK govt website:


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Safety and security
Crime
Muggings and pick pocketing are very common. In Quito, take particular care in ‘La Carolina’ and ‘El Ejido’ parks, the districts of ‘La Mariscal’, ‘La Floresta’ and ‘La Marin’, the bus terminals and the old town including the main square and ‘El Panecillo’ hill. Avoid travelling to ‘El Panecillo’ hill on your own or by foot. Use one of the standard tours or reliable transport instead. In Guayaquil, be particularly careful in Urdesa, Kennedy, Alborada, and the Malecon Simon Bolivar districts (including Cerro Santa Ana) and the bus terminal.

Don’t wear expensive jewellery when walking around and watch your bags on public transport. Wear your rucksack on the front of your body. Where possible, don’t store anything under your seat or in the overhead storage on buses.

Carry a colour copy of your passport, including the visa entry stamp page, and keep the original safe. Only take out as much money as you need.

Look after your belongings. Methods of distraction include requests for assistance, staged fights and pushing or shoving. Don’t resist a robbery.

Take care when withdrawing money from a bank or at an ATM. There have been cases of violent robbery outside banks in Quito in 2018 and 2019. The Ecuadorean national police offers a free escort service from/to banks when large amounts are involved. You are encouraged to use this service, which you can request by calling 911.

Incidents of attacks and serious sexual assault against foreign women have increased in the city of Montañita (Santa Elena province in the east of Ecuador). All visitors, particularly women, should take extra care to find reputable and secure accommodation whether travelling alone or as a group. Avoid travelling after dark and be alert to the use of date rape and other drugs in drinks. If you feel unwell, seek urgent help from people you know.

Criminals often use drugs to subdue victims. Home-made versions of the drug ‘scopolamine’ leave victims in a subdued, compliant state and cause amnesia. Be wary if you’re approached by a stranger offering you food, drinks, leaflets, perfume samples, telephone cards or cigarettes, no matter how friendly or well dressed they appear.

Armed robbery is a risk throughout Ecuador, but especially in Quito, Guayaquil and in remote areas. Seek local advice about the safety of the area you are visiting and travel in a group whenever possible.

Quito has a Tourism Police unit with branches in the north and old town of the city but also at the airport and bus terminals. The Ministry of Tourism has a national tourist service complaints management system e-mail: denuncias@turismo.gob.ec

The Ecuador District Attorney´s Office (Fiscalia General) now has an English online tool for tourists to report robbery, theft and loss of belongings and documents (the tool is listed under ‘Denuncias online para touristas).

Transport safety
“Zebra crossings” are usually not respected by drivers throughout Ecuador. Pedestrians are recommended to exercise extra caution when crossing roads.

There have been reports of robberies on interstate transport and at bus stations, especially Quito, Baños, Cuenca, Tena, Riobamba, Mindo and Loja tourist towns. Most incidents took place at night. Where possible you should avoid travelling by road after dark. Cases involving British nationals have been reported on the routes between Quito and Baños; Baños and Cuenca; Baños and Quito; Guayaquil and Baños; Tena to Quito; Quito and Mindo; Quito and Cuenca; and Loja and Vilcabamba. Don´t store your bag in overhead luggage space or underneath your seat. Keep your valuables in a safe place, preferably in a money belt or safe inside pocket.

Avoid taking interstate buses with a reputation for stopping to pick up passengers at night as many criminals use this means to attack passengers.

Express kidnappings - short-term opportunistic abductions, aimed at extracting cash from the victim - also occur, particularly in Quito and Guayaquil. Victims can be targeted or selected at random and held while criminals empty their bank accounts with stolen cash cards. This type of crime can involve illegitimate and registered taxis. Ecuadoreans and foreign visitors are targets.

The use of unregistered taxis significantly increases the risk of becoming a victim of crime. Try to book a taxi through your hotel or by calling a known radio taxi service. Where possible, try to travel in a group. If you are using an authorised taxi (yellow cab) in Quito and Guayaquil make sure it has the municipality registration number sticker displayed on the windscreen and doors; the orange license plates or the new white plates with an orange strip on the top and video cameras inside. Avoid hailing a taxi on the street, especially at night. Larger supermarkets and airports have taxi ranks.

In mid-2013, the Ecuadorean National Transit Agency launched the ‘Secure Transport’ project throughout Ecuador. This includes the installation of security kits - video cameras, panic buttons and GPS - inside interstate buses and registered taxis. You should only use the yellow registered taxis, with the ‘transporte seguro’ logo, if a radio taxi isn’t available.

You can also order a secure taxi from new free smartphone applications ‘Easy Taxi,’ available for Android and iPhone. A photo, the name of the taxi driver and the vehicle description will be sent to the customer.

Watch this video from the British Embassy in Quito for more information and tips on transport safety:


Local travel
There is a 20 km exclusion zone, under army control, along the entire border with Colombia. The FCO advise against all travel to this area, except the official border crossing town of Tulcan in Carchi province. Guerrilla groups, drug traffickers and criminal gangs are active and there is a risk of kidnapping and a high risk of crime. Foreigners, including oil workers, are potential targets.

In 2018 there were serious attacks within the exclusion zone, in the northern province of Esmeraldas. These have included 2 bomb explosions and a kidnapping of local journalists in the San Lorenzo and Mataje areas. The Ecuadorian authorities have declared these attacks to be terrorist incidents. For more details, see Terrorism

The FCO advise against all but essential travel to all other areas of Esmeraldas province outside the 20km exclusion zone. The security situation can change very quickly in the province. On 4 April 2018, a home-made explosive was detonated in the town of Viche, near a bridge on one of the main roads connecting the highlands to the coast and various popular beach destinations. If you’re undertaking essential travel in this area, you should pay close attention to warnings issued by the Ecuadorean authorities, be particularly cautious and vigilant, and monitor this travel advice regularly.

If you’re crossing the northern border at Tulcan (Rumichaca official land border point), Carchi province, you should enter and exit the town via the main Panamericana international highway. Lago Agrio (also known as Nueva Loja), the main town in the border province of Sucumbios, and San Lorenzo, in the border province of Esmeraldas, both lie within the 20km zone.

The FCO advise against all but essential travel to the area bordering Colombia in Carchi province inside the 20km exclusion zone. The border area in Carchi province is home to various eco-lodges, near El Angel Ecological Reserve. Illegal armed groups and criminal gangs are present in the area. If you’re travelling to this area, make sure you travel with a reputable operator with good communication systems, emergency plans in place and an official guide.

The FCO advise against all but essential travel to the area of Tarapoa and the Cuyabeno reserve in Sucumbios. In February 2012 a group of tourists including British nationals were assaulted at gunpoint by a criminal gang in the Cuyabeno reserve. In September 2012 a group of tourists were robbed and 2 tourists were kidnapped in the Cuyabeno reserve but subsequently released.

There is a higher risk of crime in southern parts of Sucumbios province, including Coca (also known as Francisco de Orellana). There are popular eco-lodges in the area along the Napo river, between Sucumbios and Orellana provinces. Use only reputable operators to visit this area. Some lodges are a long distance from the nearest major hospital and helicopter evacuation may be necessary in an emergency. Reputable eco-lodges in this area have good communications and emergency plans in place.

Telecommunications
The Ecuadorean Ministry of Tourism and the National Telecommunications Corporation (CNT) have launched a Tourist SIM card (“travel SIM”) available for purchase for smartphones or tablets, aiming to provide tourists with various services during a 30 day period. It includes 1GB of data, free Facebook and Whatsapp, and voice call/SMS credit.

Volunteer and adventure activities
If you’re joining a ‘volunteer’ or ‘adventure expedition’ programme, where possible make sure the UK organisation responsible for the travel has an official local agent in Ecuador with sufficient autonomy and resources to handle an emergency situation. Be wary of unauthorised intermediaries ‘enganchadores’ trying to offer you cheap hotels or tour deals.

If you’re planning to undertake adventure activities like canopy, bungee jumping, quad biking, rafting or kayaking, make sure you use a reputable local tour operator, properly accredited to provide this service (with a specific licence). Check that the equipment is in good condition. In addition, for water adventure sports, ensure that the operator provides you with an accredited specialised guide and that the weather condition and river currents are within the advisable standards. In May 2012 and January 2016, 2 foreign tourists died in Mindo and Bucay areas due to canopy accidents. In 2017 and 2018, 2 British tourists died while undertaking rafting and kayaking activities.

Hiking
Due to high altitude and unpredictable climates, if you are hiking in Ecuador, including the Galapagos Islands, you should be well prepared and sufficiently fit and healthy. Ascend at a more moderate rate to give your body some time to adjust. Stay well hydrated. Don’t stray from established paths and avoid exploring remote areas without an experienced guide. Make sure someone knows where you’re going and when you expect you will be back.

The teleférico (cable car) from Quito to Pichincha volcano, that overlooks the city (at 4,050 metres above sea level), is a popular day trip from the capital. However, there have been some accidents, including fatalities from hypothermia. You should take warm and waterproof clothing, as well as high factor sun block – even on a clear day, as the weather can change quickly – and take an accredited specialised guide who knows the route well. Where possible, try to start the excursion early to minimise any potential risks related to unexpected heavy mist or storms. Tourists have been killed by electrical storms while climbing Pichincha, so you should pay close attention to the weather, and re-consider your plans if conditions look bad.

Watch this video for adventure sports safety tips from the British Embassy in Quito:


Use of traditional hallucinogens
Traditional hallucinogens, often referred to as Ayahuasca or San Pedro, are found in Ecuador. These substances are often marketed to tourists as ‘spiritual cleansing’, and typically contain dimethyltryptamine (DMT), a strong hallucinogen that’s illegal in the UK and many other countries. There are many risks involved. Consumption isn’t regulated. Intoxicated travellers have been assaulted and robbed. Health risks are not well understood, and on occasions people have suffered serious illnesses and in some cases deaths after taking these drugs, which are often taken a long way from medical facilities making the risks even greater.

Road travel
You can drive a hire car using a UK licence or International Driving Permit.

The Ecuadorean police recommend that you also get a local temporary driver permit. Always carry your passport, driving licence, vehicle registration and proof of insurance with you when in the vehicle.

Road conditions are variable. Heavy rains and mudslides often close or wash away roads, which can cause significant delays and accidents.

Serious accidents are very common, mainly due to careless driving, speeding and badly maintained vehicles. Ecuador has one of the highest rates of road accidents in Latin America. In May 2014, near Papallacta region, a road collision involving a bus carrying foreign tourists caused the deaths of 2 British nationals and injury to others. Similar accidents in the same route were reported in 2018. In March 2018, a bus crash on the Guayaquil to Quito route caused 11 deaths and 54 injured people, including 2 British nationals who were seriously harmed. In the same week, there was another critical road collision in Manabi province resulting in 12 deaths.

If you’re a passenger in a vehicle travelling at an unsafe speed, you should firmly instruct the driver to slow down.

Where possible, avoid travelling by road outside major cities after dark. If you take public buses, check the reputation of the bus company and make sure it’s insured with a ‘SPPAT’ (formerly SOAT), mandatory traffic accident public insurance. There is an online interstate bus booking system.

When taking yellow registered taxis in the major cities make sure the taxi meter is reset. The minimum charge in Quito is US$1.45 during the day and US$1.75 at night, even if the meter registers less for your journey. If you or the hotel called a taxi, agree a price before you get in.

Rail travel
The national rail company, Tren Ecuador, offers a range of train routes along the Andean and coastal regions in Ecuador. Most of the rail system has been repaired.

Air travel
The new Quito ‘Mariscal Sucre’ International Airport is in Tababela, at about 37 km towards the north-eastern part of Quito. The main connecting roads have now been completed. Journey times from the airport to central Quito can vary from 30 to 60 minutes depending on the time of day.

Safety concerns have been raised about INSEL Air. The US and Netherlands authorities have prohibited their staff from using the airline while safety checks are being carried out. UK government officials have been told to do the same as a precaution.

Sea travel
There have been incidents of piracy and armed robbery against ships in and around Ecuador’s waters. Sailors should be vigilant and take appropriate precautions.

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by cbeck » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:13 am

FIBoston wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:10 pm
Trader Joe wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:16 am
Bigfish wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:00 am
DW and I are scheduled to fly to Ecuador in mid February for a trip to the Galapagos. Apparently there has been some issues there and currently there is a travel advisory due to "civil unrest". I have only sent a small deposit at this point but the full payment is due within three weeks, we do plan on purchasing travel insurance. The travel company says it is still a go, should we be concerned?
No, I would not travel to Ecuador. It is not safe. Definitely not worth the risk.
Ecuador homicde rate: 5.7 per 1000
US homicide rate: 5.3 per 1000

:oops:
Time again for fun with statistics?

Crime level in Ecuador is 24% higher than US.
Murder rate in Ecuador is 19 per 100,000 vs. 5 for US.
Intentional homicide rate in Ecuador 3 times that for US.
Rapes are higher in the US than Ecuador, though.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-in ... ates/Crime

I am unable to find the rates for crimes targeting easily identifiable tourists by contrast with locals, which would be the most relevant statistics for this discussion.

How about some anecdotes just for local color. When I was in Quito in 2011 every bank branch had a guard carrying a carbine standing in the entryway. Number of times I have observed bank guards in New York City banks carrying carbines = 0.

And a very small, but telling detail. I took advantage at the time to go to a pharmacy to stock up on a medication that required a prescription in the US, but was available much cheaper without prescription in Ecuador. So, I bought 20 boxes. I then watched as the pharmacist methodically opened each box to verify that the contents had not already been stolen.

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by surfstar » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:25 am

cbeck wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:13 am
How about some anecdotes just for local color. When I was in Quito in 2011 every bank branch had a guard carrying a carbine standing in the entryway. Number of times I have observed bank guards in New York City banks carrying carbines = 0.
They do this in Costa Rica too - not quite known for its crime. Anecdotes are just that.

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by cbeck » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:44 am

surfstar wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:25 am
cbeck wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:13 am
How about some anecdotes just for local color. When I was in Quito in 2011 every bank branch had a guard carrying a carbine standing in the entryway. Number of times I have observed bank guards in New York City banks carrying carbines = 0.
They do this in Costa Rica too - not quite known for its crime. Anecdotes are just that.
The anecdotes, if you remember, were in addition to the statistics that I cited. You provided neither statistics nor anecdotes, just unsubstantiated opinion. Let me help you with that:

Crime level in Costa Rica 30% greater than US.
Murder rate 11 per 100,000 vs 5 for US.
Rape rate 34% higher than US.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-in ... ates/Crime

Here's the advice from the US Embassy in Costa Rica:

Crime is increasing in Costa Rica and U.S. citizens are frequent victims. While petty theft is the main problem, armed robberies have been known to occur even in broad daylight. American tourists and residents can also take steps to protect themselves.

https://cr.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-se ... rom-crime/

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by HomerJ » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:53 am

FIBoston wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:10 pm
Trader Joe wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:16 am
Bigfish wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:00 am
DW and I are scheduled to fly to Ecuador in mid February for a trip to the Galapagos. Apparently there has been some issues there and currently there is a travel advisory due to "civil unrest". I have only sent a small deposit at this point but the full payment is due within three weeks, we do plan on purchasing travel insurance. The travel company says it is still a go, should we be concerned?
No, I would not travel to Ecuador. It is not safe. Definitely not worth the risk.
Ecuador homicde rate: 5.7 per 1000
US homicide rate: 5.3 per 1000

:oops:
Worthless statistic.

Certain areas in both countries are more dangerous than others.

I wouldn't recommend anyone to spend too much time walking around at night in East St. Louis, just like I wouldn't tell people to walk around at night in Quito.

Unfortunately, trips to the Galapagos require people to spend a night in Quito.

I don't know of any tourist trips to the U.S. that require people to spend a night in East St. Louis.
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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by whodidntante » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:58 am

If you don't go, can I have your ticket? If yes, it's very dangerous and you should not go. :happy

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by happyisland » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:09 am

By some of the logic in this thread, if you lived in Switzerland, for example, you would never EVER visit a country like the USA, given how much more dangerous and crime-ridden it is.
OP: you should definitely go. Manage your risks, like at all other times in your life, but GO! :sharebeer

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by Bigfish » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:05 am

We are going with CNH Tours (which was recommended on this site) just 14 guests and 8 crew. Our hotel is Mansion de Angel which looks nice. I'm not overly nervous about going but it our first trip to this part of the world, just thought I would get some feedback. Thank You

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by Silk McCue » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:10 am

Bigfish wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:05 am
We are going with CNH Tours (which was recommended on this site) just 14 guests and 8 crew. Our hotel is Mansion de Angel which looks nice. I'm not overly nervous about going but it our first trip to this part of the world, just thought I would get some feedback. Thank You
Good for you! I just mentioned to my wife that I have added Galapagos to our list of trips to take in retirement.

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by Walkure » Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:58 pm

Bigfish wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:05 am
We are going with CNH Tours (which was recommended on this site) just 14 guests and 8 crew. Our hotel is Mansion de Angel which looks nice. I'm not overly nervous about going but it our first trip to this part of the world, just thought I would get some feedback. Thank You
I've stayed at Mansion Alcazar in Cuenca, which is part of the same ownership group. It was an excellent experience all around.

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by DesertDiva » Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:55 pm

happyisland wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:09 am
By some of the logic in this thread, if you lived in Switzerland, for example, you would never EVER visit a country like the USA, given how much more dangerous and crime-ridden it is.
OP: you should definitely go. Manage your risks, like at all other times in your life, but GO! :sharebeer
Agreed. I just returned from a trip to Mexico and have fielded questions about safety from a friend. This is a person who frequently travels to Chicago. :twisted:

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by Pitagoras » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:55 pm

Being myself from South America I guess my comment may be biased but...OFF COURSE you should travel! We are used to protests in the street, you just need to avoid to be in the middle of them. And then use your common sense. I would not flash an expensive camera in shady neighborhoods. Use a normal backpack, try not to look too touristy (Hawaiian shirt, shorts, straw-hat and expensive jewelry). I would not flash an expensive camera in the Bronx or most of LA for instance either. It is just common sense.

edit: wear a baseball hat, specially if you are very blond, it helps not to stand out ;-)

Yes, be aware there are scams like mustard or ice cream on your shoulders...the taxi driver saying a bill is not legit and asking another one in return (giving you back a fake one), taxi taking a longer ride than necessary...etc

Besides that, South America is wonderful, and Galapagos is just too good to miss it.

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by travelnut11 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:27 pm

I was pick-pocketed in Quito on my first day of a 6 month trip through South America in 2007 and it was the best thing that could've happened to me as it made me more cautious and consequently I learned of all the scams, made good choices and carried on having a wonderful trip.

Petty theft is very common in developing countries because people are POOR. Whoever got my $30 needed it more than I did. More annoying to replace were my credit cards (luckily my passport was in my hotel room) and driver's license but whatever. I deserved it for not taking the warnings seriously.

Quito itself is not the loveliest spot in South America but the plaza is charming and if you eat in a local restaurant can have an amazing meal for $1.50. Absolutely you should go on this trip and have a great time!
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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by Pitagoras » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:56 pm

travelnut11 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:27 pm
Petty theft is very common in developing countries because people are POOR.
Having lived only 4 years in the US, and the rest of my life in Latin America, the only time someone broke in my car was last July in the mall in Montery, California. The only time I saw a pickpocket in progress was in Rome, Italy.

I know, there are statistics. But I think there is a huge "feeling safe" factor to be aware of. I felt safe in California, left my camera bag in the rental car while having lunch and it was gone. We are never safe.

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by FlyAF » Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:20 pm

travelnut11 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:27 pm
I was pick-pocketed in Quito on my first day of a 6 month trip through South America in 2007 and it was the best thing that could've happened to me as it made me more cautious and consequently I learned of all the scams, made good choices and carried on having a wonderful trip.

Petty theft is very common in developing countries because people are POOR. Whoever got my $30 needed it more than I did. More annoying to replace were my credit cards (luckily my passport was in my hotel room) and driver's license but whatever. I deserved it for not taking the warnings seriously.
Out of curiosity, after the fact, do you now know how you were pick-pocketed? It has to happen all the time, but very few admit it. I'd be interested in the specifics. What was taken out of what pocked, how it happened, etc...?

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by travelnut11 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:34 pm

Pitagoras wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:56 pm
travelnut11 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:27 pm
Petty theft is very common in developing countries because people are POOR.
Having lived only 4 years in the US, and the rest of my life in Latin America, the only time someone broke in my car was last July in the mall in Montery, California. The only time I saw a pickpocket in progress was in Rome, Italy.

I know, there are statistics. But I think there is a huge "feeling safe" factor to be aware of. I felt safe in California, left my camera bag in the rental car while having lunch and it was gone. We are never safe.
Well yes of course things get stolen in the U.S. and Europe and other similar countries. I didn't mean to imply it only happens in developing countries. I also think tourists are targeted more heavily which is maybe why you did not experience it when living in Latin America as someone native to the area? I agree precautions must be taken everywhere but I take very different precautions in Chicago than I would in Quito. There is inherent risk anywhere and for the most part I will still go those places I just practice risk management eg. passport in hotel/safe, limited cash on person, divide credit cards (some in bag, some in hotel), don't carry valuables while I travel, over shoulder bag with zipper and covering flap, etc.
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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by travelnut11 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:46 pm

FlyAF wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:20 pm
travelnut11 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:27 pm
I was pick-pocketed in Quito on my first day of a 6 month trip through South America in 2007 and it was the best thing that could've happened to me as it made me more cautious and consequently I learned of all the scams, made good choices and carried on having a wonderful trip.

Petty theft is very common in developing countries because people are POOR. Whoever got my $30 needed it more than I did. More annoying to replace were my credit cards (luckily my passport was in my hotel room) and driver's license but whatever. I deserved it for not taking the warnings seriously.
Out of curiosity, after the fact, do you now know how you were pick-pocketed? It has to happen all the time, but very few admit it. I'd be interested in the specifics. What was taken out of what pocked, how it happened, etc...?
Yep, I absolutely know how they did it. I was carrying an over the shoulder bag with just a zipper on top (no flap covering the zipper) and a man crashed right into me from the front, undid the zipper and grabbed whatever was on top which was a small wallet with my DL, small amount of cash, a debit and a credit card.I didn't realize until about 10 minutes later when I noticed my bag was open. Until then I thought someone had just clumsily crashed into me. Not a major loss as I had heeded the advice to email myself all the phone numbers of my CC, kept another set of cards in my hotel and wasn't carrying my passport. Lots of other scams like the mustard one mentioned above where someone squirts mustard on your clothes and then "helps" you while their accomplice takes off with your stuff. As you work your way through the backpacker circuit you hear about a lot of them so become more attentive to iffy situations.
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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by Starfish » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:02 pm

cbeck wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:44 am
surfstar wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:25 am
cbeck wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:13 am
How about some anecdotes just for local color. When I was in Quito in 2011 every bank branch had a guard carrying a carbine standing in the entryway. Number of times I have observed bank guards in New York City banks carrying carbines = 0.
They do this in Costa Rica too - not quite known for its crime. Anecdotes are just that.
The anecdotes, if you remember, were in addition to the statistics that I cited. You provided neither statistics nor anecdotes, just unsubstantiated opinion. Let me help you with that:

Crime level in Costa Rica 30% greater than US.
Murder rate 11 per 100,000 vs 5 for US.
Rape rate 34% higher than US.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-in ... ates/Crime

Here's the advice from the US Embassy in Costa Rica:

Crime is increasing in Costa Rica and U.S. citizens are frequent victims. While petty theft is the main problem, armed robberies have been known to occur even in broad daylight. American tourists and residents can also take steps to protect themselves.

https://cr.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-se ... rom-crime/
So murder rate is 2X higher than US and you think is high?
Some people have a very interesting way of seeing risks.
If you consider US as safe an lived here for years, I assume you consider that the probability of being murdered is almost 0 and twice that is still 0. One week in Ecuador is equal to 2 weeks in US in terms of risk. Did you feel in danger in the last 2 weeks?
I come from a developing country with a murder rate of a fifth of US murder rate. Now that's some difference! By your logic I am completely insane for not only travelling in US for a week, but living here for decades.

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by cbeck » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:23 pm

Starfish wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:02 pm
cbeck wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:44 am
surfstar wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:25 am
cbeck wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:13 am
How about some anecdotes just for local color. When I was in Quito in 2011 every bank branch had a guard carrying a carbine standing in the entryway. Number of times I have observed bank guards in New York City banks carrying carbines = 0.
They do this in Costa Rica too - not quite known for its crime. Anecdotes are just that.
The anecdotes, if you remember, were in addition to the statistics that I cited. You provided neither statistics nor anecdotes, just unsubstantiated opinion. Let me help you with that:

Crime level in Costa Rica 30% greater than US.
Murder rate 11 per 100,000 vs 5 for US.
Rape rate 34% higher than US.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-in ... ates/Crime

Here's the advice from the US Embassy in Costa Rica:

Crime is increasing in Costa Rica and U.S. citizens are frequent victims. While petty theft is the main problem, armed robberies have been known to occur even in broad daylight. American tourists and residents can also take steps to protect themselves.

https://cr.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-se ... rom-crime/
So murder rate is 2X higher than US and you think is high?
Some people have a very interesting way of seeing risks.
If you consider US as safe an lived here for years, I assume you consider that the probability of being murdered is almost 0 and twice that is still 0. One week in Ecuador is equal to 2 weeks in US in terms of risk. Did you feel in danger in the last 2 weeks?
I come from a developing country with a murder rate of a fifth of US murder rate. Now that's some difference! By your logic I am completely insane for not only travelling in US for a week, but living here for decades.
I certainly agree that some people have a very peculiar way of understanding risks. I don't know of any place in the US where the advice from other governments would be not to hail a cab on the street, because you might be kidnapped and held for ransom.

You have for the second time selectively quote a post of mine. In this case you omitted this important consideration:

I am unable to find the rates for crimes targeting easily identifiable tourists by contrast with locals, which would be the most relevant statistics for this discussion.

A local can make an informed assessment of areas of risk or other factors that could make him a target. A tourist cannot and moreover sticks out like a sore thumb. I have traveled widely and Quito is the only place where I encountered young men eyeing us with murderous looks in the plaza in the middle of the day. But we had hired a guide for just that reason. Still, I wouldn't go back there and I wouldn't recommend anyone else to go either. The reason is that there is evidence that there are specific risks for tourists there. The key point is those risks are excess, i.e. unnecessary risks, which cannot be said of an American living in the US.

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by Starfish » Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:23 pm

Maybe other governments are not into fear mongering.
First time when I landed in US in the orientation week I was told not to take an unmarked taxi in JFK not because of the price but because it was dangerous.
There is a solid American community in Quito, mostly retired people. How bad can it be?

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by HomerJ » Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:19 pm

FlyAF wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:20 pm
travelnut11 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:27 pm
I was pick-pocketed in Quito on my first day of a 6 month trip through South America in 2007 and it was the best thing that could've happened to me as it made me more cautious and consequently I learned of all the scams, made good choices and carried on having a wonderful trip.

Petty theft is very common in developing countries because people are POOR. Whoever got my $30 needed it more than I did. More annoying to replace were my credit cards (luckily my passport was in my hotel room) and driver's license but whatever. I deserved it for not taking the warnings seriously.
Out of curiosity, after the fact, do you now know how you were pick-pocketed? It has to happen all the time, but very few admit it. I'd be interested in the specifics. What was taken out of what pocked, how it happened, etc...?
I keep my wallet in my front pocket, and my hand in that pocket whenever I'm walking around in a foreign country (or even when visiting some cities in the U.S.) Pretty hard to pickpocket me with my hand right there on my wallet.
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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by cbeck » Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:49 pm

Starfish wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:23 pm
Maybe other governments are not into fear mongering.
First time when I landed in US in the orientation week I was told not to take an unmarked taxi in JFK not because of the price but because it was dangerous.
There is a solid American community in Quito, mostly retired people. How bad can it be?
Let me put it another way. The statistical chance that you will have a fatal accident driving home drunk tonight is, believe it or not, about 0.001%. I expect that we would both agree that driving home drunk, even just this one time, is extraordinarily stupid. However, that must be not because the risk is high, but because it is an excess, i.e. unnecessary, risk. Taking your vacation in a place where your own best assessment of the risk of becoming a crime victim is, "How bad can it be?" suggests the very definition of an unnecessary risk.

If you do go to Quito, hire a local guide to take you around. But I wouldn't go back there.

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by Starfish » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:02 am

cbeck wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:49 pm
Starfish wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:23 pm
Maybe other governments are not into fear mongering.
First time when I landed in US in the orientation week I was told not to take an unmarked taxi in JFK not because of the price but because it was dangerous.
There is a solid American community in Quito, mostly retired people. How bad can it be?
Let me put it another way. The statistical chance that you will have a fatal accident driving home drunk tonight is, believe it or not, about 0.001%. I expect that we would both agree that driving home drunk, even just this one time, is extraordinarily stupid. However, that must be not because the risk is high, but because it is an excess, i.e. unnecessary, risk. Taking your vacation in a place where your own best assessment of the risk of becoming a crime victim is, "How bad can it be?" suggests the very definition of an unnecessary risk.
By that logic, buying something else than the safest car is ridiculous. Or commuting to work instead of moving closer.
Or maybe having any kind of activity that involves going out of the house.
People take "unnecessary risks" all the time. Without them life is not worth living.
I wouldn't be shocked to find that the chance of being murdered in Quito is smaller than the chance of dying on the way to the airport.
HomerJ wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:19 pm

I keep my wallet in my front pocket, and my hand in that pocket whenever I'm walking around in a foreign country (or even when visiting some cities in the U.S.) Pretty hard to pickpocket me with my hand right there on my wallet.
It's a good strategy but it easier if you don't carry a wallet at all. 100$ in cash and couple of credit/debit cards don't need a wallet.

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by Starfish » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:19 am

Based on this website:
https://www.travelsafe-abroad.com/

Marseilles, Quito, Porto, San Jose (Costa Rica), Panama City have similar scores.
I walked by myself or with a 3-5y old kid and my wife in the daytime and at night (not evening, middle of the night) through all these places. If the website is reliable, I would not worry much.

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Re: Should I Travel ot Ecuador?

Post by Traveler » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:40 am

I haven't been to Ecuador but traveled by myself to Cartagena, Colombia and also around Argentina. I've also been to Santiago, Chile and Buenos Aires (first time), but not solo. I wouldn't hesitate to go to Ecuador, especially with a tour group. I don't speak a language other than English and am a 47 year old female, as reference. I have traveled to 25+ countries by myself and have rarely even felt afraid, let alone at risk.

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