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Re: Help Me Decide on a New Vehicle?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:36 pm
by randomguy
theplayer11 wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:36 am

I've always thought cargo space is so overrated between different SUVs. How often is anybody going to stack boxes from the floor to the ceiling to take advantage of those few extra cubic feet? Any SUV I've owned(compact to mid size) has carried everything I ever needed to carry on a trip. Anything larger, I use my truck.
So your SUV wasn't big enough to carry everything you wanted?:) If you own a fleet of vehicles you are specialize more than if you need one to do everything (or the 99% and you will rent for the other 1%). A car is either big enough for your needs or not. Depending on passenger size (i.e. 4 people with long legs places a lot more premium on leg space than 2 short adults and 2 preteens) and cargo (do you have bulky things like bikes, skis, golf bags, drum sets,...) the size you need can vary.

Re: Help Me Decide on a New Vehicle?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:43 pm
by scubadiver
Toyota 4Runner.

Re: Help Me Decide on a New Vehicle?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:05 pm
by rj49
I'll be a contrarian. More money has been wasted by retirees on aspiration purchases...'If I get an RV I can see the country...if I get a sailboat I can explore the seas...if I get a huge car I'll go on roadtrips and ski all the time". Don't base a car decision on whether it can fit skis or anything else inside, since it will mean much higher costs and usually less comfort, as well as the decision to get AWD for the few times a year when you'll actually drive in snow (the roads are already destroyed enough by studded tires by the people here having them on all winter just for the 3 days of snow).

My choice: get a Corolla and a ski rack to put on when and if you actually ski. The trunk storage is perfectly fine for any road trip, and every city and most hotels have laundry facilities. That Rav4 you paid over $30k for and use occasionally is costing you lots of money for little use, and for $18k or so you could get a Corolla that has both more driver and rear legroom, better safety scores, and is one of the most reliable cars out there. You don't need an SUV--use the savings in price, fuel, and depreciation to rent a truck if you really need to haul something (100-roll packs of Costco toilet paper aren't a necessity). Even better, get a small car like a Corolla that will last forever and if you want to go on a ski or road trip, rent a car or van or even an RV. If you want to have fun with a toy, I've found the most enjoyable and beneficial ones now are electric bikes--they're all over my city now, with senior couples able to get out and explore and get exercise and do something healthy together (ideal in non-ski season, I'd say).

If you want to see how comfortable and spacious different cars are, I really like AlexonAutos on youtube--he actually sits in all the seats to check roominess, compares measurements with similar cars, and sets a higher emphasis on comfort than most other reviewers (he even climbs in the trunk to see how spacious it is).

Re: Help Me Decide on a New Vehicle?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:15 pm
by H-Town
GiannaLuna wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:29 pm
I'm currently driving a 2013 Toyota RAV4 and it's still in great shape with low mileage. I've considered it my grocery-getter and weekend vehicle, but my lifestyle is about to change.

I'll be retiring, so no more commuting (even though my commute is very short) and a lot more road trips...some involving outdoor excursions and ski trips.

I'd like a vehicle that offers a more comfortable ride than the RAV4, has more cargo space for luggage, fold down seats for skis and is yet, just as reliable as the Toyota has been.

I'm open to any make and model and style as long as it's own known for reliability.

Thanks!
So will you be doing more than 20 road trips a year? Unless you're on the road the entire time, I would just rent a large SUV when I need it for ski trips. If you travel often, it's not difficult to accumulate points for hotels, car rental, etc.

A RV sounds like an option here if you, in fact, will be on the road majority of the time.

Re: Help Me Decide on a New Vehicle?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:24 pm
by sk2101
J295 wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:25 pm
Lexus GX 460 has been great for us. Lots of room, great ride, super reliable.

Yep, it’s expensive to buy and expensive to fuel.

Maintenance has been essentially nonexistent. Oil changes and recommended fluids. First set of brakes lasted to 70,000 miles. First set of tires made it 60,000 miles
I love the GX but I would not recommend it to someone that is not an enthusiast. it is a dated platform, with antique infotainment and lack of driver aids. The engine is weak for its size, it drives slow and it's very thirsty. Despite being larger, it has less interior room than the RX. I still put it on top of MY shopping list for other reasons, but I don't recommend it to my friends.

Re: Help Me Decide on a New Vehicle?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:39 pm
by Jack FFR1846
rj49 makes some good points. My father in law retired and was car shopping. Every time we talked with him, he was looking at vehicles that were bigger and bigger. I questioned him at one point on one of his choices and he responded that he needed to get a 4 x 8 sheet of plywood inside and close it up. I didn't see why this was important as he had no building projects and had not brought plywood home since 1963.

I did just fine when I was 19 with my first car. I worked at a ski shop and thus could get ski shop passes for free skiing in the Berkshires, about 45 minutes drive away. I night ski'd once a week and go for at least one weekend day (the shop was closed Sundays). I had snow tires from a parts car, so was fine in the snow. The trunk had a rack that could carry skiis or a bike (I road raced bikes when it wasn't snow covered). My snow crushing car? A 1969 MGB.

Re: Help Me Decide on a New Vehicle?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:21 pm
by researcher
scubadiver wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:43 pm
Toyota 4Runner.
This is a really bad suggestion, given that the OP wants a vehicle with "a more comfortable ride than the RAV4" for long road trips.
The 4Runner is built on an ancient truck-based platform that is over a decade old.

It was ranked #21 out of #22 midsize SUV's...
- If you care at all about how your daily driver goes around a freeway entrance ramp and Moab isn't in your vacation plans, look elsewhere.
- The interior is not what you'd call state-of-the-art, with switchgear that could have come from the latter years of the last millennium.
- Don't try to heave anything into the cargo hold unless you have a chiropractor on call—the floor is uncomfortably high off the ground.
- the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) handed out some demerits, including a Poor rating for the 4Runner's headlights and Marginal scores for the small overlap test.
- Offers almost no driver-assistance technology such as adaptive cruise control, automatic emergency braking, or blind-spot monitoring.

Re: Help Me Decide on a New Vehicle?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:12 pm
by scubadiver
researcher wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:21 pm
scubadiver wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:43 pm
Toyota 4Runner.
This is a really bad suggestion, given that the OP wants a vehicle with "a more comfortable ride than the RAV4" for long road trips.
The 4Runner is built on an ancient truck-based platform that is over a decade old.

It was ranked #21 out of #22 midsize SUV's...
- If you care at all about how your daily driver goes around a freeway entrance ramp and Moab isn't in your vacation plans, look elsewhere.
- The interior is not what you'd call state-of-the-art, with switchgear that could have come from the latter years of the last millennium.
- Don't try to heave anything into the cargo hold unless you have a chiropractor on call—the floor is uncomfortably high off the ground.
- the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) handed out some demerits, including a Poor rating for the 4Runner's headlights and Marginal scores for the small overlap test.
- Offers almost no driver-assistance technology such as adaptive cruise control, automatic emergency braking, or blind-spot monitoring.
Ok, so neither you or the person who wrote that review like the 4Runner. Copy that.

I suggested it to the OP as I have owned one for more than a year and use it extensively for outdoor excursions, road trips and skiing. And it has been great. It's also a Toyota, which in general are reliable vehicles, and that seemed to be important to the OP.

Re: Help Me Decide on a New Vehicle?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:28 pm
by Rudedog
Toyota Highlander or Honda Pilot.

Re: Help Me Decide on a New Vehicle?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:44 pm
by GiannaLuna
I wonder if my comment about skis, as an example of something I'd like to be able to fit in the car, has been overextended.

I will be living in ski country in an area with sometimes challenging terrain, nevertheless, there are more reasons than skis for wanting a larger vehicle.

The frugality forums are riddled with comments about how we pinch pennies in one area in order to indulge in other areas according to our own personal preferences. I simply want a vehicle larger than a RAV4 for my own reasons. You might be shocked at how otherwise small my footprint is on this earth, but that's not really germane here.

Thanks for all the great feedback, you are giving me good stuff to ponder.

Re: Help Me Decide on a New Vehicle?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:11 pm
by tomd37
Gianna,
Glad to see your last post. Now maybe people will stop their posts and let you do whatever you so desire. :annoyed

Re: Help Me Decide on a New Vehicle?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:28 pm
by shans2000
Jack FFR1846 wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:39 am
If you're concerned that you could face sudden or deep snow and want a real AWD system, your list is Subaru, Audi, Jeep and Land Rover. When you add reliability, pay attention to the order this list is in from most to least reliable. Of course, run snow tires.
Are AWD of other brands not as good as these? I also need to buy an AWD since we go skiing often, and considering a Lexus RX450h AWD as of now. Are Subaru/Audi/Jeep/Land Rover supposed to be superior in terms of AWD or driving in snow?

Re: Help Me Decide on a New Vehicle?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:01 pm
by GiannaLuna
<<Now maybe people will stop their posts and let you do whatever you so desire.>>

I've received several excellent suggestions thus far of vehicles I had not previously considered.

People are free to ignore the original post, offer up suggestions or whatever...lol. Bogleheads is known for overthinking lol.

Re: Help Me Decide on a New Vehicle?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:23 pm
by ragabnh
Per consumer report Mazda reliability > Honda, CX-5 and CX-9 are gorgeous looking cars and worth a test drive for sure.

Highlander is a no brainer, great suv and could be bought Hybrid,

Subarus are good cars but ugly in my opinion, and I don't like CVT transmissions.