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Should I sell my BMW

Post by morbo » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:08 pm

It’s a 2015 320i xDrive. I have $4k left on the loan, and blue book value is probably 16k give or take. I bought it new in August 2015, and it has 33,000 miles on it. The warranty is ending, and BWMs are famously expensive to fix.

I bought it when we were dual-income and no kids. We have an 18 month old and another one on the way, so priorities have changed a little. I’d like to find a way to save some money, and maybe something a little more spacious would be practical. It will likely need new tires before the winter, so I’m counting on $800+ for that.

Having said all that, I’ve paid for most of the depreciation by this point, so I don’t know how much money I’d really save getting rid of it.

We’re not starving artists: we both make ~$130k albeit in an extremely HCOL area (NYC suburbs). My wife has an SUV, so we have something to load up when we need space. I really do like driving the car. I could certainly live a happy life driving a Camry, but it's not going to compare to a BMW.

Really just looking for someone to reinforce what I think I already know.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by runner3081 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:20 pm

Yes, that 320i isn't even a real BMW (at least performance wise). The Camry is probably faster :)

Not worth increased maintenance costs.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by mmmodem » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:23 pm

morbo wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:08 pm
I could certainly live a happy life driving a Camry, but it's not going to compare to a BMW.
This is very unlikely. Lifestyle normally creeps up. You'd likely be miserable with the down grade. You're averaging some 7000 miles a year anyway. That means it would take your BMW another 10 years to get to 100k miles. That's the mileage when cars start getting major repairs anecdotally. If you want to save some money, consider driving the BMW 10 more years. That will certainly save you money.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by MotoTrojan » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:23 pm

Get a Mazda 3 (new OTD for <$20K is possible on a 2018 with all the fancy bits and 2.5L engine).

Don't get new tires/brakes/consumables before selling, you want get anywhere near full value back.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by bloom2708 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:24 pm

I'd keep it. 33k miles is not much.

The transaction costs of buying/selling aren't worth it. If it had 133k miles it would be time to move on.
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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by MotoTrojan » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:24 pm

mmmodem wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:23 pm
morbo wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:08 pm
I could certainly live a happy life driving a Camry, but it's not going to compare to a BMW.
This is very unlikely. Lifestyle normally creeps up. You'd likely be miserable with the down grade. You're averaging some 7000 miles a year anyway. That means it would take your BMW another 10 years to get to 100k miles. That's the mileage when cars start getting major repairs anecdotally. If you want to save some money, consider driving the BMW 10 more years. That will certainly save you money.
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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by miamivice » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:24 pm

I saw an Ford ad that said former BMW owners were incredibly happy with a Ford Focus.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by whodidntante » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:24 pm

morbo wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:08 pm
Really just looking for someone to reinforce what I think I already know.
It's refreshing to see a poster admit this.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by campy2010 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:26 pm

I'll buy it from you for $16k give or take. The question to you is what you would buy with my +/-$16k check.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by sk2101 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:49 pm

I would wait until the BMW starts to break to get another car. At 33k miles its too early. Keep driving it for now, transactions costs are high.

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Post by rebellovw » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:51 pm

campy2010 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:26 pm
I'll buy it from you for $16k give or take. The question to you is what you would buy with my +/-$16k check.
Exactly where else can you get a car for 16K that you know everything about and has 33K miles that you have driven - likely carefully and not like leaving the scene of a crime.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by sk2101 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:52 pm

miamivice wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:24 pm
I saw an Ford ad that said former BMW owners were incredibly happy with a Ford Focus.
Former (multiple) BMW owner here.. I would pick a Focus ST as a daily driver over any current BMW model.

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Post by JHU ALmuni » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:55 pm

At this point I'd just keep it as long as there is no issues with car. Selling/buying will cost you more. Tires are just regular maintenance item. The question is do you really need two cars? Get riding of one of the cars will be beneficial financially if possible.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by 260chrisb » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:56 pm

Keep it. You've paid for the depreciation and you like driving it so get your money's worth and put some miles on it over the next 5-6 years. A Camry is fine but nothing exciting to drive. The Mazda 3 will put you to sleep when you drive it. Keep it.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by Goal33 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:00 pm

Hate to break it to you but you won't get 16k either... I was recently in the car market and saw a lot of that same model CPO for 15k-ish. So you'd get maybe 13-14k private party and less on trade in.

My location is SF Bay Area, cars might be more expensive in other places, don't know.
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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by finfire » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:02 pm

An expensive car for 8K miles/year. Sell and buy a used Pontiac Vibe, then invest the rest.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by lazydavid » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:29 pm

As much as I'm not a fan of the F30 3-series, I'd keep it. You've already eaten the depreciation cost, and you now have a low-mileage car with a reliable powertrain--N20 has been very solid (except for early production MY2011), which isn't surprising since it's a cut-down version of the well-regarded N55 inline six.

BMWs don't have to cost a lot to maintain. I had an E46 that went 12 years and 158k miles with a total after-sale cost of $5500, including all maintenance and repair items, even brakes, tires, and oil changes, as well as some suspension upgrades. My current 9 year old, 100k mile E90 has become a money pit just this year after being perfectly reliable the prior 8, but all the issues are related to the EPA-mandated emissions crap.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by wootwoot » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:33 pm

You've already eaten the depreciation and put low miles on every year, keep it!

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by snackdog » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:39 pm

See if there is a dealer who would trade you straight up for 2015 or 2015 i3. If they trade, no transaction fees other than registration.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by sunny_socal » Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:51 am

bloom2708 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:24 pm
I'd keep it. 33k miles is not much.

The transaction costs of buying/selling aren't worth it. If it had 133k miles it would be time to move on.
This. I wouldn't expect any major issues before 100k. Tires, belts, brakes, filters are maintenance items.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by abuss368 » Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:27 am

I would plan to keep it a little while longer while there are no issues. I would however plan to sell to something more economical and practical.
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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by TxAg » Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:00 am

I'd get rid of it. But I admit I'm not a car guy. It's just an overpriced toy to me.


Get something practical for the family.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by morbo » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:19 am

Thanks for the perspectives. The miles are low because I used to live a lot closer to work. I've moved farther, so I'll be putting more miles on it, but not astronomically more.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by dsmclone » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:55 am

wootwoot wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:33 pm
You've already eaten the depreciation and put low miles on every year, keep it!
This right here.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by Kenkat » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:12 am

lazydavid wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:29 pm
As much as I'm not a fan of the F30 3-series, I'd keep it. You've already eaten the depreciation cost, and you now have a low-mileage car with a reliable powertrain--N20 has been very solid (except for early production MY2011), which isn't surprising since it's a cut-down version of the well-regarded N55 inline six.

BMWs don't have to cost a lot to maintain. I had an E46 that went 12 years and 158k miles with a total after-sale cost of $5500, including all maintenance and repair items, even brakes, tires, and oil changes, as well as some suspension upgrades. My current 9 year old, 100k mile E90 has become a money pit just this year after being perfectly reliable the prior 8, but all the issues are related to the EPA-mandated emissions crap.
For us non-BMW drivers, using the model codes such as E46 and E90 is like using ticker symbols for non-Vanguard funds. Just a thought for readability.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by Cycle » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:18 am

Yes. Leading cause of death of kids in the US age 4 onward is from car crashes
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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by Small Savanna » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:26 am

At this point, trading your BMW for any new car won't save you money. Also, selling the BMW and buying any used car for less than what you get is just trading one set of unknown problems for another. Buy the tires, drive for a couple more years, and re-evaluate.

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Post by hicabob » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:02 am

Cycle wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:18 am
Yes. Leading cause of death of kids in the US age 4 onward is from car crashes
BMW's do very well in crashes and handle well enough that getting into a crash is less likely.
I'd keep it until 100k or so if I were you.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by macheta » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:08 am

sk2101 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:49 pm
I would wait until the BMW starts to break to get another car. At 33k miles its too early. Keep driving it for now, transactions costs are high.
This is really good advise. I agree with this statement.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by JackoC » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:21 am

I agree with previous posts in particular doubting you'd actually $16k for that car. But even if you did, F30 3 series have been quite reliable, so the big replacement cost items would probably be when stuff is supposed to wear out, which for major things is far above your current mileage. As for routine maintenance expense, find an independent who specializes in BMW's, plenty in NY area, you might even be near enough to mine (Motorsport GMBH in Lyndhurst, NJ).

I don't know what you 'already know' but I see trading away that car for financial reasons as a waste of time at best unless you were really hard up for money which your income (even in NY area) says you aren't. There should be no problem incorporating discount* purchase of a small 4 yr old entry level luxury car with a sensible financial plan overall. Then next time you can make a different choice with lower total life cycle cost, if that suits by then.

Assuming as seems you like the car. I have a 2015 328i and I eventually found it a little lacking on the acceleration side, got Dinan Stage 1 tuner 240>295hp (v 180 IIRC in 320i). But contrary to many 'BMW guys' saying they don't like F generation 3's I quite like mine, good compromise of a comfortable, efficient cruiser with nice handling, though even with the tune it's hardly overwhelming in two lane road passing acceleration. I think I'd also like a stock 320i well enough for some uses, not my first choice, but OK as long as I also have my M2. :happy

*deciding to keep an already used car is like buying a used car except you're not generating profit margin for whoever you'd selling it to and more for whoever you'd buy another car from.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by galving » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:23 am

BMW's are great cars though the maintenance does accelerate as the age.
In my experience, (3 series only), you need to switch vehicles as they approach 7 years, or get pretty good at completing your own maintenance.

Recent tough experience was with a 2011 328i, that I bought pre-owned and it was clearly not well maintained.
By 2018 there were multiple issues with the O2 sensors and that tagged us with a 4k repair bill.

I have a rule to only pay cash for vehicles. Can't really comment on how other vehicles compare with BMW, though I'm willing to put up with a little bit of maintenance risk because of how BMW drives.

Good luck

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by bogledogle » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:51 am

Keep the BMW. They are pretty reliable if you maintain them well. The regular maintenance is expensive for these cars and folks skimp on them an end up breaking something. Change your engine oil every 7K (mixed driving) or 10K (mostly highway) miles; and flush your automatic transmission at 5 years or 60K miles and you will be fine up to 100K mile no problem. Do not follow the recommended 12K or 15K oil change schedule - that's designed to break cars and force folks to buy a new car every 3-4 years.

I have had BMWs for over 120K and currently have a 335i with 80K miles and zero problems. My cars have always run well with no major problem. I have friends who follow dealer maintenance schedule and they seem to always end up playing for engine and transmission failures.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by rocket354 » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:00 pm

Small Savanna wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:26 am
At this point, trading your BMW for any new car won't save you money. Also, selling the BMW and buying any used car for less than what you get is just trading one set of unknown problems for another. Buy the tires, drive for a couple more years, and re-evaluate.
This. What you spent, or have lost, is all water under the bridge. You have a car worth $16k for which you owe $4k. Taking those numbers as is, if you sell you net $12k, and presumably need a new car. What are you going to find for $12k that is better than what you currently have? Do you think a Camry with 90k miles on it will be better than your car in any way, including financially?

You bought the car because you presumably liked it. It only has 33k miles on it and you only drive 7/8k miles/year. Buying it may have been a financial mistake, but at this point selling it would also be a mistake. You can't do better than a fairly recent car with only 33k miles on it for your 12k budget. And a nice BMW at that! Enjoy it for the next 5/6 years at least, knowing that even if you have a somewhat costly repair you are still making the financially prudent choice.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by RJC » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:08 pm

I have a 2015 428 xdrive with 27k miles and I plan on keeping it until the problems start happening on a regular basis. Once you drive a BMW, you will not be happy with anything less. Hold on for a few more years. Find a good indie shop.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by inbox788 » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:16 pm

A Camry is an upgrade to the next size car. A Corolla is a better comparison.

Why did you get the xdrive? If you need it, I think the only mainstream comps are Mazda 3 and Subaru Impreza. I don't think a Focus RS or Audi A4 is going improve your financials.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by Swansea » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:47 pm

Keep the BMW. My 1998 328i has 95K miles and is running quite well. I did have the rear wheel bearings replaced, and the radiator, but other than that all is just routine maintenance. My 2008 535Xi with 33k, has never had a repair issue, save for the HPFP and 5 injectors, all of which were covered under a recall.
You might want to consider joining the BMW CCA. While most of the articles are not of interest, save for real car folks, their Tech Talk guy, Mike Miller provides superior advice in his column. He also is great in responding to readers' questions. He will provide members with his lifetime maintenance schedule which is really a gem.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by RJC » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:55 pm

Swansea wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:47 pm
Keep the BMW. My 1998 328i has 95K miles and is running quite well. I did have the rear wheel bearings replaced, and the radiator, but other than that all is just routine maintenance. My 2008 535Xi with 33k, has never had a repair issue, save for the HPFP and 5 injectors, all of which were covered under a recall.
You might want to consider joining the BMW CCA. While most of the articles are not of interest, save for real car folks, their Tech Talk guy, Mike Miller provides superior advice in his column. He also is great in responding to readers' questions. He will provide members with his lifetime maintenance schedule which is really a gem.
Joining the CCA gave me a 1000 rebate check!

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by randomguy » Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:07 pm

miamivice wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:24 pm
I saw an Ford ad that said former BMW owners were incredibly happy with a Ford Focus.
People have an incredible ability to delude themselves about what they have bought:)

Obviously the answer is to sell this car and buy a Tesla:) The OP problem is that a good chunk of the added cost of that BMW has already been paid. We aren't talking about a 40k BMW versus a 20k honda/toyota. We are talking more like a 16k BMW versus a 12k honda. And yes some operational costs (gas, insurance, repairs,...). Personally if I still like the BMW I would drive it a couple more years til your automotive needs become more clear.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by novemberrain » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:47 pm

runner3081 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:20 pm
Yes, that 320i isn't even a real BMW (at least performance wise). The Camry is probably faster :)
Ha ha. So true.

I have a 328i. My friend's Accord drives faster that the 328i

But to the OPs concerns on maintenance, I must say, my 328i has cost me $0 (ok actually just $300) so far in maintenance (other than tires). It has 70k miles and I brought it brand new.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by iamlucky13 » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:43 pm

Im a cheap car person, but given the circumstances described, it seems perfectly reasonable to keep the BMW.
miamivice wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:24 pm
I saw an Ford ad that said former BMW owners were incredibly happy with a Ford Focus.
Based on what I've been seeing from Consumer Reports reliability survey reports for recent model years, that might be due to similarity in maintenance costs.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by Notsobad » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:53 pm

Find a good independent mechanic. They are usually much cheaper than the dealers. Although not as reliable and more expensive than a Camry, as posters above have noted, you can have a good experience. By 4 cylinder X3 has 110k and 7 years and has done well. Our Honda Pilot needed more expensive maintenance and repairs by 100k.

So if you enjoy the vehicle, keep it until it becomes a pain in the wallet.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by Swansea » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:38 am

RJC wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:55 pm
Swansea wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:47 pm
Keep the BMW. My 1998 328i has 95K miles and is running quite well. I did have the rear wheel bearings replaced, and the radiator, but other than that all is just routine maintenance. My 2008 535Xi with 33k, has never had a repair issue, save for the HPFP and 5 injectors, all of which were covered under a recall.
You might want to consider joining the BMW CCA. While most of the articles are not of interest, save for real car folks, their Tech Talk guy, Mike Miller provides superior advice in his column. He also is great in responding to readers' questions. He will provide members with his lifetime maintenance schedule which is really a gem.
Joining the CCA gave me a 1000 rebate check!
Yes, I got the $1000 also...very good program.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by lazydavid » Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:10 am

bogledogle wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:51 am
Do not follow the recommended 12K or 15K oil change schedule - that's designed to break cars and force folks to buy a new car every 3-4 years.
Having opened the head on a 100k+ mile N52 engine that had only had 7 oil changes (all per the maintenance indicator), I wholeheartedly disagree with this. Everything in the valvetrain was pristine, like it had just been assembled. Of course I used top-quality oil and the OE Mann filter. The only engine problem it had over the 12 years and 158k miles I had it were the VANOS seals I was actually in there to replace, which is a very common problem on those engines. I also had a used-oil analysis done at one change, and the report came back saying the oil still had a lot of life in it and I could keep using it. Of course I had already replaced it at the specified 16.5k interval.

BMWs in general have far deeper sumps than similar-displacement engines from most other brands. This means the oil is cycled through the engine less frequently, and therefore wears out more slowly.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by tractorguy » Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:15 am

I sold my '07 BMW 328i last year when the plastic parts (particularly the valve cover) started getting brittle. Based on my experience I'd hold on to your car. Although maintenance might be more expensive than something else, its a crap shoot. If you buy something that has the same total investment, you're going to be trading a well maintained car in known condition for something that in all likelyhood wasn't as well taken care of. Even if the car you get is on average more reliable, poor maintenance by the previous owner can turn a good car into a lemon.

If, on the other hand, you invest some more money to get something that has low miles, then you're going to be paying the early depreciation all over again.

Find a good independent mechanic that specializes in BMW's and is willing to tell you what small issues you can just let ride and keep it until your maintenance bills get to be as expensive as your payments or it gets unsafe. Follow the maintenance advice I saw earlier in this string. In my experience, it should be good to go until you get to 150K or 10 years old, whichever comes first.
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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by Valuethinker » Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:55 am

morbo wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:08 pm
It’s a 2015 320i xDrive. I have $4k left on the loan, and blue book value is probably 16k give or take. I bought it new in August 2015, and it has 33,000 miles on it. The warranty is ending, and BWMs are famously expensive to fix.

I bought it when we were dual-income and no kids. We have an 18 month old and another one on the way, so priorities have changed a little. I’d like to find a way to save some money, and maybe something a little more spacious would be practical. It will likely need new tires before the winter, so I’m counting on $800+ for that.

Having said all that, I’ve paid for most of the depreciation by this point, so I don’t know how much money I’d really save getting rid of it.

We’re not starving artists: we both make ~$130k albeit in an extremely HCOL area (NYC suburbs). My wife has an SUV, so we have something to load up when we need space. I really do like driving the car. I could certainly live a happy life driving a Camry, but it's not going to compare to a BMW.

Really just looking for someone to reinforce what I think I already know.
In economic terms the BMW is "sunk cost". All that matters is future outgoings vs an alternative.

The reality is a bmw that is low mileage and that you know is lower cost than buying another used car. Under most circumstances.

The other principle is to "minimise regret".

Driving a car you like us probably minimize regret. Don't worry If the Toyota Camry you did not buy has better performance ;-)

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by zlandar » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:43 am

Ride it until it's too expensive to fix. Chalk it up to a life lesson.

My in-laws also buy BMWs. They trade theirs in for new ones when the 3 year warranty is up because the maintenance is ridiculous and stuff begins to break.

Why they keep buying them.... just going to be polite and say nothing.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by Swansea » Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:17 am

lazydavid wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:10 am
bogledogle wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:51 am
Do not follow the recommended 12K or 15K oil change schedule - that's designed to break cars and force folks to buy a new car every 3-4 years.
Having opened the head on a 100k+ mile N52 engine that had only had 7 oil changes (all per the maintenance indicator), I wholeheartedly disagree with this. Everything in the valvetrain was pristine, like it had just been assembled. Of course I used top-quality oil and the OE Mann filter. The only engine problem it had over the 12 years and 158k miles I had it were the VANOS seals I was actually in there to replace, which is a very common problem on those engines. I also had a used-oil analysis done at one change, and the report came back saying the oil still had a lot of life in it and I could keep using it. Of course I had already replaced it at the specified 16.5k interval.

BMWs in general have far deeper sumps than similar-displacement engines from most other brands. This means the oil is cycled through the engine less frequently, and therefore wears out more slowly.
I agree on the mileage issue, the newer engines have less internal wear and the lubricants are much approved. A person on the Bimmerfest forum sent off a sample of oil to see how it was after say 15K. The results came back fine. For folks who do not put on a lot of miles like me, I do recommend annual oil service.
+1 on the Mann filter.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by Patent Guru » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:06 am

sk2101 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:49 pm
I would wait until the BMW starts to break to get another car. At 33k miles its too early. Keep driving it for now, transactions costs are high.
i agree. The transaction costs are high. Buy and hold the BMW. If maint gets high, dump it, but not before. My $0.02.

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Re: Should I sell my BMW

Post by JackoC » Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:36 pm

novemberrain wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:47 pm
runner3081 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:20 pm
Yes, that 320i isn't even a real BMW (at least performance wise). The Camry is probably faster :)
Ha ha. So true.

I have a 328i. My friend's Accord drives faster that the 328i

But to the OPs concerns on maintenance, I must say, my 328i has cost me $0 (ok actually just $300) so far in maintenance (other than tires). It has 70k miles and I brought it brand new.
Can only speak of relatively recent relevant cars I've driven fairly extensively which include my 2015 328i and 2018 M2, former then one son's 2009 Sonata, other son's similar vintage Camry. So there's some model year variation there though we also had to rent a IIRC 2015 Sonata for a road trip NJ>TN when the 328i was in shop after a freak accident (an automated garage damaged it, the car has had basically no reliability issues to date). But if 6 cyl versions of Camonata were fairly close to stock 328i in official 0-60 (not faster) though not mine, and are faster in straight line gas pedal mashing terms than a 320i, the overall performance is not comparable, to me. I got to positively dislike the 'hollow' floaty feel of the Sonata, similar to the Camry, after getting used to the 328i.

Even the M2 is not overwhelming in raw power (~3400lbs/365hp) but on a different level than the 328i on windy mountain roads, M2 is a fairly serious cornering car: short, big 'paws', RWD w/ active differential, big brakes. But 328i xdrive is already on a different level in those conditions than a Camonata, IMO. Even the 328i can evoke memories of cool drives like say US-95/ID-28 in Lost Pass Trail area of MT/ID. The M2 now evokes more memories (Pacific Coast Highway, Utah Route 12, US-160 through high passes in CO, etc.) but in either case it's kind of like the whiff of a wood stove bringing back memories of fun camping, even when I drive the BMW's on congested local roads. I don't know how you'd make a special *driving* memory in a Sonata or Camry, go to interesting places sure, but never exciting to drive, for me, again the sub models I've driven.

The 320i is more acceleration challenged but I'd also appreciate the feel which would be similar to 328i I guess, though M2's feel is a pretty different thing I also like. The 320i could be a 'momentum car' in racing terms, IOW a pig acceleration wise. That doesn't mean you can't have any fun with it. :happy

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