veindoc wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:29 pm
Thanks for all your replies!
Nice to hear there are other non-athletes in the group.
I didn’t want to focus on diet because I didn’t want to get the thread locked. Diet was the first thing we changed. This has been a two year battle. No juice boxes, no processed snacks, no let’s hit Dunkin Donuts and grab a donut on the way home. I pack his school lunches and froze his spending account so he couldn’t grab a bag of Cheetos. He eats 5 helpings of vegetables a day-not fruit , vegetables. This summer we went out for ice cream three times and three times only. And this only because my three kids have summer birthdays. Yet he continues to gain weight.
We started the taekwondo twice a week religiously two years ago. Brothers joined it too and he continued to gain weight.
We started the family hikes weekly last year , roller skating on weekends as a family and he continues to gain weight.
I know it’s portion control (He can out-eat my husband) and lack of activity. He’s been like this since he is a kid.
He always ate more than other kids and moved less. Kids would hit the playground up and down the monkey bars and slides-my son chose the swing or sandbox.
Siblings and cousins are jumping up and down on my couches and climbing my bookshelves. My son is on the floor drawing or playing with the nonambulatory toddlers.
So my goal is to get him to move. I like the pedometer idea and goal setting. He’s not dumb. He knows he’s overweight because people keep telling him he is. Grandparents, other kids etc.
I would like something organized to keep him
(and me) accountable. Dancing is a great idea because he does like to dance. I will look into bowling as well. He is actually very strong. Is weight lifting safe for an 11 year old?
When I was in elementary school, I was a fat kid in the days when being a fat kid was not socially acceptable. People didn't jump to one's defense and say "don't fat shame" like they do now. Okay, now I'll be politically correct and use overweight/obese (even though it's much more typing than my politically incorrect "fat") in the discussion. But my history is important as it gives some background/insight into the post/questions. Also parents were healthcare and well educated and they were not particularly active (but they weren't overweight).
1. Overweight/Obese kids eat way too big portions and they find hidden ways to get more food. Just like the massively morbid obese individuals that can't leave their home due to their size, they find ways to get the extra food. Remember that. You need to go hard core to remove the ability to get excessive food. It could be the kid is chugging down 1/2 of the milk carton, etc. As you note, continually gaining weight no matter if one is exercising is having access to excess food, period. Again, ask me why I know.
2. There are overweight/obese Active kids and there are overweight/obese NON-Active kids. This is a big distinction. 1st goal in life is to get them to be active even if they are overweight/obese.
But here's where it gets difficult. Put the obese/overweight kid in with kids in better shape and there can be problems. One of which is there will always be "excuses" on completing the activity. We personally see this coaching middle school kids, when they can't do the activity. How do you "argue" they don't have a headache? Another problem is they may be embarrassed. Honestly, nowadays, I don't know if kids are embarrassed or not about the actual physical aspects of being overweight/obese (but I do suspect many are) vs. taking part in activities where they are not "competitive" because they are hampered by being overweight/obese.
I'd recommend finding something fun that takes significant energy but isn't so competitive. Nowadays in most areas of the country, I good start would be some type of trampoline park. It's fun, it's a workout and it's not competitive. Then continue to find other activities to supplement something like that that's also fun. In other words, find multiple activities to keep the interest going. Now hopefully you're getting to goal number one, an active yet overeight/obese kid.
3. I think to get an active overweight/obese to the next level involves some aerobic activity/sport. Personally, some thing like mountain biking is great. Problem, if the parents don't do that it's hard to find that activity. But road biking or safer riding on paved trails is a good option. But without aerobic activity, you tend to keep the kid at the level of being active but overweight/obese.
4. Parents are part of the problem. As I noted, first because the are oblivious to the hidden food eating. Most parents are overweight/obese so nowadays there's not much great modeling going on. My advice, put your money where your mouth is as a parent. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Be active also. I didn't have parents that did that, but seems like a poor excuse as a current parent to not be part of the solution by modeling active lifestyles.
As people have mentioned, you CANNOT exercise your way out of being overweight/obesity. However, for the vast majority of people, failing to have exercise as a regular part of life only increases the likelihood of one having an sedentary overweight/obese lifestyle one's entire life. And typically, once you're an obese/overweight kid, you now likely has a lifetime struggle to try to maintain a reasonable weight, even if you remain physically active.
My spouse and I did have the discussion recently, maybe society needs to stop being so politically correct. Maybe some aspects of "fat shaming" are necessary so that the country doesn't continue to have a further explosion in the number of very young Type 2 diabetics, etc. It shouldn't be seen as so acceptable. There are real issues with being obese, just a fact of life.