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Post by dm200 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:41 am

Any opinions, experience or feedback on being a member of Mensa?

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Post by Sandtrap » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:44 am

For what end purpose, activity, or expectation, are you looking for?
Strictly online or f2f networking and or social?

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Post by greg24 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:45 am

I thought we already had a thread for elite social clubs for adults.

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Post by fru-gal » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:50 am

Just say no. A bunch of snobs, and not that smart anyway, like IQs over about 130. Who filters their friends by their IQs? How about mutual interests or basic human decency.

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Post by lthenderson » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:54 am

dm200 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:41 am
Any opinions, experience or feedback on being a member of Mensa?
A thread on Mensa that I just attached to another thread.

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=244457&p=3832627&h ... a#p3832627

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Re: Mensa membership

Post by WildBill » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:58 am

Howdy

Joined Mensa in high school, for no particularly good reason that I remember.

Local chapter was a bunch of losers obsessed with sitting around and discussing their IQs.

Went about twice and skipped it thereafter.

My perception gained from discussion with other members of my acquaintance is that my experience was pretty common.

YMMV

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Re: Mensa membership

Post by dm200 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:01 am

WildBill wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:58 am
Howdy
Joined Mensa in high school, for no particularly good reason that I remember.
Local chapter was a bunch of losers obsessed with sitting around and discussing their IQs.
Went about twice and skipped it thereafter.
My perception gained from discussion with other members of my acquaintance is that my experience was pretty common.
YMMV
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Thanks for the feedback.

I already know more than enough "losers" to deal with - do not need any more! :oops:

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Post by miamivice » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:04 am

dm200 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:41 am
Any opinions, experience or feedback on being a member of Mensa?
The problem with Mensa is that the idea that you are smarter than others, and have joined a club to prove it, doesn't go over well with people who don't qualify for the club. So you can do the activities and stuff but it would be best to keep your membership a secret to maintain relationships with non-Mensa.

Since I don't tend to live a secret life, I don't wish to be part of a club that I keep secret.

The other issue is they have an annual membership fee, and I am smart enough to know that I don't need to pay a membership fee to prove I am smart to others.

(I actually don't know I would qualify for Mensa. Maybe so, maybe not.)
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Post by Raymond » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:05 am

greg24 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:45 am
I thought we already had a thread for elite social clubs for adults.
Can I subscribe to your newsletter? :P
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Post by randomguy » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:20 am

miamivice wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:04 am
dm200 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:41 am
Any opinions, experience or feedback on being a member of Mensa?
The problem with Mensa is that the idea that you are smarter than others, and have joined a club to prove it, doesn't go over well with people who don't qualify for the club. So you can do the activities and stuff but it would be best to keep your membership a secret to maintain relationships with non-Mensa.
Nah nonMensians don't care much about IQ. it is the people inside the club that care and are constantly trying to prove they are smarter than everyone else. The problem with the club is that most people don't have passions for IQ tests so it is a poor way to pick your friends?

Besides why as a smart person would you want to hang out with dumb mensa members? If you aren't in the Promethus society or triple nines society, whats the point?

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Post by Abe » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:28 am

I know my IQ is not high enough to pass the test, so I don't have any experience. Having said that, it seems to me that it would be like telling someone who lives paycheck to paycheck that you have a few million in the bank. They are not going to like it very much. Most people are not going to like it if you are smarter than they are or if you have more money than they do, especially if you flaunt it. It's just human nature.
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Trolling has peaked. That's all folks.

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Re: Mensa membership

Post by dm200 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:43 am

Abe wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:28 am
I know my IQ is not high enough to pass the test, so I don't have any experience. Having said that, it seems to me that it would be like telling someone who lives paycheck to paycheck that you have a few million in the bank. They are not going to like it very much. Most people are not going to like it if you are smarter than they are or if you have more money than they do, especially if you flaunt it. It's just human nature.
There would, however, be no need to have anyone know about a person's membership in Mensa. I, certainly, would not make it generally known at all - if I chose to join.

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Post by Jack FFR1846 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:46 am

I would not think that its very smart to join.
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Post by IMO » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:02 pm

Personally, I don't get the attraction to Mensa. I'm sure there is some benefit to some people.

It seems right along the line of when somebody tells you what they can bench press.

In both cases, I'd roll my eyes and get a good chuckle.

But whatever floats your boat . . . . .

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Post by 3-20Characters » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:12 pm

There was a Columbo episode involving a Mensa murder.
"Columbo" The Bye-Bye Sky High I.Q. Murder Case (TV Episode 1977) - IMDb
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075864/
Along with solving the murder, Columbo had to deal with solving a riddle.
What was the coin riddle Columbo solved in the episode in which the murder occurred in a MENSA club? - Answers.com
https://www.answers.com/Q/What_was_the_ ... MENSA_club
Of course, Columbo is really smart and clever so all went as expected.

Other than that I have no knowledge about or interest in the club.

Edit: fixed link.
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Post by yangtui » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:13 pm

I would much rather join an organization filled with people that have elite level EQs. That would probably be a good time.

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Post by sport » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:22 pm

Many years ago, I was single, and moved to a new city where I did not know anyone. A friend at work suggested I might qualify. I thought it might be a good way to meet some interesting people, perhaps a nice lady. So, I took the tests and was accepted. I remained a member for a year or two. I went to one or two meetings and did not like the people. The newsletter was interesting, but I decided it was not worth the membership dues. So, I dropped out.

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Post by bhsince87 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:34 pm

I joined for a year back when I was young and single and had just moved to a new town.

I was hoping to meet some new friends and possibly some potential dating candidates.

The only interest I got from that angle was a married woman about 10 years older than me who complained non-stop about how much she despised her "stupid" husband. She cornered me at every get together!

I don't regret trying it out. It was educational, and I recommend it from that perspective.

I learned that people "blessed" with a high IQ aren't automatically better off or more successful than those with lower IQs. There were some very sad and sorry individuals at those meetings.
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Post by whodidntante » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:39 pm

It can be a good way to get a scholarship. And if you put it on your LinkedIn profile, it annoys people. It probably has other benefits.

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Post by sport » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:42 pm

I mentioned it one time during a job interview. It helped me get the job.

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Post by Teague » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:53 pm

Interesting. You spend $40 to take a test that, if you pass, allows you to spend another $70 to join a club comprised of folks that have also given away $110. And, you each pay $70 annually to show that you remain as wise as ever.
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fru-gal wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:50 am
Just say no. A bunch of snobs, and not that smart anyway, like IQs over about 130. Who filters their friends by their IQs? How about mutual interests or basic human decency.
How are the top 2% “not that smart”? Are you just arguing that IQ is just one specific measure? Many people filter their friends by IQ, indirectly of course. See social assortative mating or Bowling Alone. Many mutual interests vary by socio-economic status or education, which are strongly correlated with IQ.

Mensa seems odd because it focuses solely on IQ. Members may have a reasonable amount in common, but not nearly as much as, say, a puzzles or computer club. Might as well join a club of left-handed people with green eyes.

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Teague wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:53 pm
Interesting. You spend $40 to take a test that, if you pass, allows you to spend another $70 to join a club comprised of folks that have also given away $110. And, you each pay $70 annually to show that you remain as wise as ever.
Whoever created it sounds likes a... genius 8-)

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Post by MathWizard » Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:20 pm

Of all the people I know who qualified, one one ever joined (not me).

I prefer organizations dedicated to some mission, like professional, religious or civic
organizations.

I also like BogleHeads, does that count as a membership?

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Post by EnjoyTheJourney » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:00 pm

I joined for one year and put it on my resume as "Former member of Mensa club", believing readers wouldn't decide that I was kicked out because my IQ decreased over time. That line in my resume probably helped me get a job at one point or another.

I stopped going to meetings after the first one. The members were clever and funny. But, some behavior at dinner at a restaurant after the meeting was boorish and childish, plus one member was in a state of despair about an impending job loss. Basically, attending meetings wasn't enjoyable.

That said, it's hard to know how things will go until you try them out. Pretty much no matter how you look for connections with others some things will work out and some won't.

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Post by TomatoTomahto » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:32 pm

WildBill wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:58 am
Howdy
Joined Mensa in high school, for no particularly good reason that I remember.
Local chapter was a bunch of losers obsessed with sitting around and discussing their IQs.
Went about twice and skipped it thereafter.
My perception gained from discussion with other members of my acquaintance is that my experience was pretty common.
High school friend talked me into applying. We both took a test and joined. He went to a meeting and reported back that people were playing chess without a board. I never went to a meeting. He never went to a second meeting. I didn’t have that many dates in high school, but Mensa wasn’t the solution.
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Post by CheCha54 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:42 pm

I took the test and passed, but never joined. My DNA results also say I'm 2.7% Neanderthal. I'm just confused.

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Post by JMacDonald » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:45 pm

I just took this test: https://www.mensaiqtest.net/mensatest
It is a fun test. It gave me a high score which makes me suspicious.
Try it yourself.
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Post by Vulcan » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:02 pm

Mensa is not really all that exclusive anyway. Top 2% (or one in fifty people) is an equivalent of ACT 33 or SAT 1500. That is below average at many top universities.

If you have to join somewhere really snobby, the Triple Nine Society accepts top 0.1%, so only one in 1,000 people (or one out of 20 Mensans) would qualify.

I joined TNS many years ago, got a t-shirt that I never wear, and didn't renew my membership past the first year :twisted:
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Post by greg24 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:09 pm

Many standardized test results qualify for Mensa membership.

https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscore ... st-scores/

ACT, GRE, GMAT, LSAT, etc.

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Post by Lou354 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:12 pm

Jack FFR1846 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:46 am
I would not think that its very smart to join.
I see what you did there. :wink:

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Post by miamivice » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:13 pm

greg24 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:09 pm
Many standardized test results qualify for Mensa membership.

https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscore ... st-scores/

ACT, GRE, GMAT, LSAT, etc.
Look again...those tests only qualify if before around 1990 or so. Test taken in about the last 30 years no longer qualify.

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Post by unclescrooge » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:30 pm

I remember reading a study about the investment results for Mensa members. They were below average (even below the Dalbar study average), suggesting that investment returns are negatively correlated with IQ.

I went to a meeting over a decade ago. It was mainly filled with weird people who I didn't really care for. That was the end of it.

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Post by TomatoTomahto » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:32 pm

Didn’t Malcolm Gladwell write a popular (esp. on BH) book, the main takeaway of which was that people who were accepted to Mensa but actually joined other groups did as well as those who actually joined Mensa?
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Post by TomatoTomahto » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:33 pm

unclescrooge wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:30 pm
I remember reading a study about the investment results for Mensa members. They were below average (even below the Dalbar study average), suggesting that investment returns are negatively correlated with IQ.
Iirc, they were found to over-trade.
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Post by greg24 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:33 pm

miamivice wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:13 pm
greg24 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:09 pm
Many standardized test results qualify for Mensa membership.

https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscore ... st-scores/

ACT, GRE, GMAT, LSAT, etc.
Look again...those tests only qualify if before around 1990 or so. Test taken in about the last 30 years no longer qualify.
ACT is the only one similar to your description.

GRE up to 2001.
GMAT 95% or above.
LSAT 95% or above.

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Post by fposte » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:39 pm

miamivice wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:13 pm
greg24 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:09 pm
Many standardized test results qualify for Mensa membership.

https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscore ... st-scores/

ACT, GRE, GMAT, LSAT, etc.
Look again...those tests only qualify if before around 1990 or so. Test taken in about the last 30 years no longer qualify.
Only the GMAT of that group does, weirdly. I think it's more about what people at Mensa have decided is worth keeping up with than anything inherent in the tests.

Edit: Whoops, missed that it's the LSAT too.

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Post by DaftInvestor » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:54 pm

One in 50 qualify for Mensa so it really isn't that big of a deal.
The Triple Nine Society is where the bragging rights are.

EQ, hard work, work ethic, dedication, perseverance, etc. beats IQ in our practical world anyway.
To me trying to decide to join Mensa is like trying to decide whether or not to join the Masons - are you interested in participating in what they do?

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JMacDonald wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:45 pm
I just took this test: https://www.mensaiqtest.net/mensatest
It is a fun test. It gave me a high score which makes me suspicious.
Try it yourself.
After taking the test, the final screen makes you register with your email address so they can send you the results.

[Forget it.]

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Post by peregrino » Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:12 pm

"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member." -- Groucho Marx

I have no experience with any IQ-based club, and in fact I've never taken an IQ test, but I do know why I haven't yet been curious about it.

Having looked it up just now, I guess my old SAT score would qualify me for Mensa. But I do not believe that people roughly as good at those tests as I was are worthy of seeking out. Associations can be made based on more meaningful attributes or interests. For all I know, the people who want to emphasize the distinction of a mere top 2% IQ might even be less interesting than average.

Maybe those able to qualify for a much more selective IQ club, like the Triple Nine group mentioned in this thread, ARE an interesting group. But it would very much surprise me if I were able to qualify for that more selective group, since I really doubt my own IQ is all that special.

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Post by Gort » Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:13 pm

I once started the application process but got confused with the instructions.

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Abe wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:28 am
I know my IQ is not high enough to pass the test, so I don't have any experience. Having said that, it seems to me that it would be like telling someone who lives paycheck to paycheck that you have a few million in the bank. They are not going to like it very much. Most people are not going to like it if you are smarter than they are or if you have more money than they do, especially if you flaunt it. It's just human nature.
It is odd that people here aren't seeing the attraction of Mensa for some people. The further you are from normal, the more you tend to seek out others like yourself because you become very rare in the land of bell-shaped curves especially when you start to get beyond 3 standard deviations from the mean. Bogleheads is a great example. How many threads get started by someone who is seeking out others in a similar situation as they are and want to hear from them?? All the time. Do the multi-millionaires specifically look for advice from other multi-millionaires or the 60 year old with no assets? This is why elite athletes might want to hang out with other elite athletes even if they are in a different sport.....because "they get me". They know to a large extent what I am going through....the training and effort required. It is probably a similar appeal for why some highly intelligent people would be interested in joining Mensa or other even higher IQ societies. They want to join to be around others who are similar to them on an intellectual level.

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Post by unclescrooge » Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:26 pm

yarnandthread wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:20 pm
Abe wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:28 am
I know my IQ is not high enough to pass the test, so I don't have any experience. Having said that, it seems to me that it would be like telling someone who lives paycheck to paycheck that you have a few million in the bank. They are not going to like it very much. Most people are not going to like it if you are smarter than they are or if you have more money than they do, especially if you flaunt it. It's just human nature.
It is odd that people here aren't seeing the attraction of Mensa for some people. The further you are from normal, the more you tend to seek out others like yourself because you become very rare in the land of bell-shaped curves especially when you start to get beyond 3 standard deviations from the mean. Bogleheads is a great example. How many threads get started by someone who is seeking out others in a similar situation as they are and want to hear from them?? All the time. Do the multi-millionaires specifically look for advice from other multi-millionaires or the 60 year old with no assets? This is why elite athletes might want to hang out with other elite athletes even if they are in a different sport.....because "they get me". They know to a large extent what I am going through....the training and effort required. It is probably a similar appeal for why some highly intelligent people would be interested in joining Mensa or other even higher IQ societies. They want to join to be around others who are similar to them on an intellectual level.
But it wasn't their intellect that made them different from the normal, it was their lack of social skills and bizarre interests (based on my one time interaction).

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Post by randomguy » Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:30 pm

Vulcan wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:02 pm
Mensa is not really all that exclusive anyway. Top 2% (or one in fifty people) is an equivalent of ACT 33 or SAT 1500. That is below average at many top universities.

If you have to join somewhere really snobby, the Triple Nine Society accepts top 0.1%, so only one in 1,000 people (or one out of 20 Mensans) would qualify.

I joined TNS many years ago, got a t-shirt that I never wear, and didn't renew my membership past the first year :twisted:
Again why would you want to join a society of commoners when you could only hang out with elite people in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_Society or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Society :)

FWIW I doubt any of these tests are that accurate at the upper end. And I really doubt that 2180 on the GRE is close to top .1% of the IQ scale. Way too many people in my engineering class were putting put up scores north of 2200 (seemed to be the goal. You would get 800 analytics, 760 math and 640-720 verbal). GREs might work if you just give them to random people but when you have people will spend 100 hours studying and raising their score by 60 points, you aren't measuring IQ.

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Post by khh » Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:51 pm

I don't need Mensa, since I've been told many times I'm a genius. As in, "Way to go, genius."

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Post by yarnandthread » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:53 pm

And some might argue that an advantage of Mensa or other IQ societies compared to elite academic institutions is that legacy status, donation contributions, celebrity status, and affirmative action policies don't matter for admission purposes and won't help you get in. You only get in based on your intellectual merit, and you don't have to look across the room and wonder if that person got in because of the above mentioned factors.

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Post by BionicBillWalsh » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:04 pm

Mensa is a lot like most nude beaches. Intriguing in concept. Horrifying in reality.

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