AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification to book

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AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification to book

Post by blackcat allie » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:39 am

I just tried to book something on AirBnB - an experience (day tour) - for upcoming trip to Europe.
They wouldn't let it be confirmed without picture of official govt' ID card '(ie drivers license or passport). :(
While I would be happy to present this day of event, I'm not thrilled about giving it online along with my already stored data.

Any feedback please?

I suppose I could try to leave it that way, and see if the system leaves me in limbo but with reservation, since it did accept my payment.
Thanks in advance
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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification

Post by AlohaJoe » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:46 am

If you don't provide it to them, you won't keep your booking.

So your only choice is whether you give them your id as requested or book using a different service.

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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification

Post by bob60014 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:55 am

Have you read this regarding photo id from Airbnb?

https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/123 ... an-id#what

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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification

Post by DaftInvestor » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:58 am

What's the concern?
With AirBnB often there is no one to check your ID upon arrival - not like a hotel where they have 24x7 staff.

I actually like the fact that both sides are fully vetted. I don't think I would trust using AirBnB otherwise.

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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification

Post by blackcat allie » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:07 am

bob60014 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:55 am
Have you read this regarding photo id from Airbnb?

https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/123 ... an-id#what
Thank you, informative link. They say they're careful with info to "us and our third-party partners using SSL" (italics mine)
DaftInvestor wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:58 am
What's the concern?
With AirBnB often there is no one to check your ID upon arrival - not like a hotel where they have 24x7 staff.

I actually like the fact that both sides are fully vetted. I don't think I would trust using AirBnB otherwise.
My concern - is data security/privacy, if site (or third-party partners) were to be comprised. (side note:booking was just for day tour not lodging)
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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification

Post by barnaclebob » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:17 am

blackcat allie wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:07 am
bob60014 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:55 am
Have you read this regarding photo id from Airbnb?

https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/123 ... an-id#what
Thank you, informative link. They say they're careful with info to "us and our third-party partners using SSL" (italics mine)
DaftInvestor wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:58 am
What's the concern?
With AirBnB often there is no one to check your ID upon arrival - not like a hotel where they have 24x7 staff.

I actually like the fact that both sides are fully vetted. I don't think I would trust using AirBnB otherwise.
My concern - is data security/privacy, if site (or third-party partners) were to be comprised. (side note:booking was just for day tour not lodging)
What secrets are on your drivers license that isn't already stored somewhere else? Ever let a car dealer make a copy of your license before a test drive? How about open a bank account or try to get a mortgage?

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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification

Post by AnonLady » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:30 am

I am an Airbnb host, I rent out rooms in my home, and I require any guests who stay with me to verify their government ID first, and to have a profile photo so that I know that the person whose ID was verified is also to person who comes into my home. I once talked to Airbnb about it and they claim to do a (really fast) background check to make sure they aren't sending anyone with a violent criminal record into my home to share my space with me. From the host's perspective, this is key to the existence of Airbnb, and from a guest's perspective as well, since they also check the host's government ID and do that background check. Won't catch anyone who is a criminal but hasn't been caught, but it's certainly better than nothing.

I wouldn't let random strangers comes stay with me without it. Right now it seems like most of my guests are brand new to Airbnb, so without at least the government ID verification system, I would not be continuing to run an Airbnb out of my home today. Thank goodness they do, because Airbnb is helping me to get out of debt faster.

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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification

Post by curiouskitty » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:31 am

Just submit it and don’t think twice about it. The fact that they’ve verified basic identities guards against people abusing the service repeatedly with new accounts. In many cases people are being given the keys to mansions after all.

The opposite style is Craigslist where it’s a Wild West and who knows what you will get.

Note that for many of the hosts they are required to collect ID for tax compliance reasons.

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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification

Post by runner540 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:39 am

A regular hotel or train booking in Europe will ask for an ID too...

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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification

Post by blackcat allie » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:53 am

runner540 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:39 am
A regular hotel or train booking in Europe will ask for an ID too...
I haven't experienced this, where they require upload of photo ID, prior to arrival.
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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification

Post by cashheavy18 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:58 am

blackcat allie wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:53 am
runner540 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:39 am
A regular hotel or train booking in Europe will ask for an ID too...
I haven't experienced this, where they require upload of photo ID, prior to arrival.
Not prior, but at check-in.

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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification

Post by adamthesmythe » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:15 am

cashheavy18 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:58 am
blackcat allie wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:53 am
runner540 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:39 am
A regular hotel or train booking in Europe will ask for an ID too...
I haven't experienced this, where they require upload of photo ID, prior to arrival.
Not prior, but at check-in.
And I have had hotels make copies of a passport; and back in the day they would keep the passport overnight.

With Airbnb: I guess it comes down to whether you trust a hotel with an IT guy somewhere taking care of things or some regular guy with a laptop. I suppose you could argue it either way.

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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification

Post by crystalbank » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:31 am

blackcat allie wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:07 am
bob60014 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:55 am
Have you read this regarding photo id from Airbnb?

https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/123 ... an-id#what
Thank you, informative link. They say they're careful with info to "us and our third-party partners using SSL" (italics mine)
DaftInvestor wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:58 am
What's the concern?
With AirBnB often there is no one to check your ID upon arrival - not like a hotel where they have 24x7 staff.

I actually like the fact that both sides are fully vetted. I don't think I would trust using AirBnB otherwise.
My concern - is data security/privacy, if site (or third-party partners) were to be comprised. (side note:booking was just for day tour not lodging)
I understand your concern but most if not all of your info is already breached anyways, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. If I were host I would expect AirBnB to do basic background checks and atleast check the person's ID.

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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification to book

Post by myfrogger » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:04 pm

Individual hosts can mark their listings to require that ID is verified. You don't have to book that listing and choose another because I don't want to submit my ID. I always recommend people avoiding the listings that require an ID. But to each their own...

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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification to book

Post by FlyAF » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:11 pm

It's cute that people still think any info of theirs is still private. A simple google search of my name turns up way more than the info on my DL and I don't have any sort of big online presence. I'd argue that fact is exactly why they want you to verify your identity and that's a good thing IMO.

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Post by mptfan » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:15 pm

cashheavy18 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:58 am
blackcat allie wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:53 am
runner540 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:39 am
A regular hotel or train booking in Europe will ask for an ID too...
I haven't experienced this, where they require upload of photo ID, prior to arrival.
Not prior, but at check-in.
That's different.

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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification to book

Post by criticalmass » Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:23 pm

blackcat allie wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:39 am
I just tried to book something on AirBnB - an experience (day tour) - for upcoming trip to Europe.
They wouldn't let it be confirmed without picture of official govt' ID card '(ie drivers license or passport). :(
While I would be happy to present this day of event, I'm not thrilled about giving it online along with my already stored data.

Any feedback please?

I suppose I could try to leave it that way, and see if the system leaves me in limbo but with reservation, since it did accept my payment.
Thanks in advance
Use a passport card, or passport if you don't have the card. Far less information to hand over, and you get a new passport number every 9.5 years anyway.

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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification

Post by Starfish » Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:53 pm

runner540 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:39 am
A regular hotel or train booking in Europe will ask for an ID too...
I go to Europe every year and it never happened to me.
Of course you show ID at check in, this is true for US too. But never online.
For trains you never need an ID, unless something changed in the last couple of years.

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Re: AirBnB asking for govt photo ID verification

Post by AlohaJoe » Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:06 pm

adamthesmythe wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:15 am
cashheavy18 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:58 am
blackcat allie wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:53 am
runner540 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:39 am
A regular hotel or train booking in Europe will ask for an ID too...
I haven't experienced this, where they require upload of photo ID, prior to arrival.
Not prior, but at check-in.
And I have had hotels make copies of a passport; and back in the day they would keep the passport overnight.

With Airbnb: I guess it comes down to whether you trust a hotel with an IT guy somewhere taking care of things or some regular guy with a laptop. I suppose you could argue it either way.
Exactly. It isn't like letting Marriott see your passport is any safer:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/30/busi ... reach.html

Or Hyatt:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... king-fears
https://www.wsj.com/articles/hyatt-says ... 1452803305

Or Trump Hotels

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/bus ... bfd63498ab

Or Wyndham Hotels

https://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/26/trav ... index.html

Or Hilton

https://iapp.org/news/a/hilton-hacked-and-hacked-again/

Or Intercontinenal

https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/58 ... reach.html

Or Huanzhu Hotels (130 million customers in Asia)

https://jingtravel.com/chinese-hotel-gr ... customers/

Or Holiday Inn

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/holida ... -1.4079202

Or Best Western

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.4286671

Or Radisson

http://www.hotelnewsnow.com/Articles/29 ... -to-breach

Or Kimpton

http://hotelnewsnow.com/Articles/152117 ... ata-breach

Or Four Seasons

http://hotelnewsnow.com/Articles/150812 ... ata-breach

At this point I'd assume that anything you've ever given a hotel has been hacked. What's more, unless you are actually boycotting every single one of the 10-20 biggest hotel chains in the world and all of their properties, I'd argue you aren't actually serious about your data privacy. Because all of them have already lost your data once, proving their incompetence. AirBnB at least hasn't done that (yet).

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