15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

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15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by cannondale » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:48 am

I have about 15K to spend on a new-to-me car. I'm looking for a car with a comfortable seat, good on gas, reliable, and quiet.

I used to own a Volvo. It met all the criteria except the reliability. The car was leaking gas and whenever I drove it, I never knew when I'd be done in like one of those old Bond Villains. I had a Tesla Model X...it's up there with the old Ford in term of quality. The Tesla showed well, especially when it was still rare. Doors opened for me then. Because back then, when you were driving a Tesla, you never get lost, you just arrived at the wrong place.

I got rid of the Tesla and went back to my reliable 2014 Honda Accord LX with 95K miles. It's a nice enough car, but it's loud. And I think I might be going deaf driving it...

I'll be driving mostly to work and occasionally meet clients.

Suggestions?

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by inbox788 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:38 am

how about a reliable 2014 Lexus ES with 95K miles?

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by JoeRetire » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:14 am

cannondale wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:48 am
I got rid of the Tesla and went back to my reliable 2014 Honda Accord LX with 95K miles. It's a nice enough car, but it's loud. And I think I might be going deaf driving it...
Why did you get rid of the Tesla? Pretty much any car will sound louder.

Perhaps you should make sure the muffler is working well on the Accord?

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by Jack FFR1846 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:24 am

However old Lexus RL to get to your price. While I find Lexus to be the Japanese version of "your father's Oldsmobile", it will certainly be both quiet and reliable.
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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by ponyboy » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:29 am

Spend a few more thousand and get a brand new corolla. My 2009 corolla just hit 175k miles...and hasnt leaked a single drop of oil. I keep telling my wife that ill never own another car thats as reliable as the corolla. All the maintenance done to it has been minimal/nothing major. I dont know why it runs so well but im not complaining.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by lazydavid » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:38 am

Jack FFR1846 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:24 am
However old Lexus RL to get to your price. While I find Lexus to be the Japanese version of "your father's Oldsmobile", it will certainly be both quiet and reliable.
There is no Lexus RL. There was an Acura RL which was discontinued roughly a decade ago. You should be able to get about four of them for $15k.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by OnTrack2020 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:13 am

I second the Corolla. However, I will say that, due to my "advanced" age, I find the seats sit somewhat low and become more difficult to get in and out of. :happy YMMV

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by IntangibleAssets » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:22 am

I would also advocate for:

Lexus ES 300h

Toyota Avalon Hybrid

Camry XLE hybrid

All of these would meet the the criteria, the first 2 being more quiet. Gas mileage would be good as well.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by onourway » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:50 am

You guys are too much.

Every car thread is not an invitation to suggest the vehicle you chose.

A Corolla is a great car in many ways. It does not, however, by any reasonable standard, meet the criteria requested by the thread author. :oops:

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by lthenderson » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:02 am

cannondale wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:48 am
I have about 15K to spend on a new-to-me car. I'm looking for a car with a comfortable seat, good on gas, reliable, and quiet.

Suggestions?
There are probably a thousand cars that meat this criteria. My prediction is that you will get so many different answers that you will end up in the same state of indecision you were in before you asked this question.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by NJdad6 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:11 am

A used Hyundai Sonata Limited or Sport. Meets all of the criteria and you can get a late model year for that price. Also a used Camry could work but you would need to try out the seat first. I think the Nissan Altima also has comfy seats but it is not the most quiet.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by MI_bogle » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:13 am

IntangibleAssets wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:22 am
I would also advocate for:

Lexus ES 300h

Toyota Avalon Hybrid

Camry XLE hybrid

All of these would meet the the criteria, the first 2 being more quiet. Gas mileage would be good as well.
+1

Corollas are great but they are loud. Lexus and Avalons are much quieter and still very reliable, by and large

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by ohai » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:21 am

OP, although Honda Accord and Camry are the obvious choices here, Nissan Altima has the most comfortable seats I've tried in this class.

I don't know how quiet you need the car to be, but if you want to be significantly better than this class, you are likely talking about Lexus ES or similar cars.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by FlyAF » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:24 am

2-4 year old Cadillac ATS w/ low miles meets all of the criteria at/near the price point.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by sschoe2 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:25 am

Some Honda's have issues with comfortable seats, but Honda/Toyota, Hyundai has gotten much better in recent years where and Nissan has gone the other direction.


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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by Inframan4712 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:35 am

onourway wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:50 am
You guys are too much.

Every car thread is not an invitation to suggest the vehicle you chose.

A Corolla is a great car in many ways. It does not, however, by any reasonable standard, meet the criteria requested by the thread author. :oops:
+1000

I seriously question the thought process behind some of these suggested for a quiet car. Are the posters deaf? Young and like loud cars? Prefer the radio loud at all times so don’t know the difference? Most likely never have driven a truly quiet car with no radio on and no other occupants. Heaven. :happy

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by JEC » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:16 pm

JoeRetire wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:14 am
cannondale wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:48 am
I got rid of the Tesla and went back to my reliable 2014 Honda Accord LX with 95K miles. It's a nice enough car, but it's loud. And I think I might be going deaf driving it...
Why did you get rid of the Tesla? Pretty much any car will sound louder.

Perhaps you should make sure the muffler is working well on the Accord?
+1

I drive a 2014 Accord Sport. Paid $14k for it. Bought it used with 20k miles. The car you own seems to be the perfect one for your parameters. I definitely wouldn't classify it as loud. I would agree you perhaps have an issue worth checking out before purchasing a new car.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by Jack FFR1846 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:20 pm

lazydavid wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:38 am
Jack FFR1846 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:24 am
However old Lexus RL to get to your price. While I find Lexus to be the Japanese version of "your father's Oldsmobile", it will certainly be both quiet and reliable.
There is no Lexus RL. There was an Acura RL which was discontinued roughly a decade ago. You should be able to get about four of them for $15k.
You're right and I did mix them up. Was thinking LS. As in the biggest Lexus sedan.
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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by MotoTrojan » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:22 pm

How about a 2018 Mazda 3 Sport? I got my Touring for $19.6K OTD (high tax state) so the Sport will get you close to 15K and it's 2.0 liter is very gas efficient. I like my seats but that is probably a personal preference.

They just came out with a 2019 model redesign so the 2018's can be had for way below MSRP (my MSRP was ~$22.5K).

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by JoeRetire » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:26 pm

JEC wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:16 pm
I drive a 2014 Accord Sport. Paid $14k for it. Bought it used with 20k miles. The car you own seems to be the perfect one for your parameters. I definitely wouldn't classify it as loud. I would agree you perhaps have an issue worth checking out before purchasing a new car.
It's certainly louder than a Tesla.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by flyphotoguy » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:27 pm

IntangibleAssets wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:22 am
I would also advocate for:

Lexus ES 300h

Toyota Avalon Hybrid

Camry XLE hybrid

All of these would meet the the criteria, the first 2 being more quiet. Gas mileage would be good as well.
+1... Maybe look at Cadillac sedans too if you find them interesting. But check the reliability\durability from reviews of the specific model. Rode a friends escalade SUV and it feels nice, comfy and solid. Since they probably need to move cars out of the dealership since the focus is SUV/crossover, you might get a good price for em. Good luck!

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by WhiteMaxima » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:28 pm

Toyota Camry. quiet and soft riding. 15k get you a used 2 or 3 year old.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by H-Town » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:30 pm

cannondale wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:48 am
I have about 15K to spend on a new-to-me car. I'm looking for a car with a comfortable seat, good on gas, reliable, and quiet.

I used to own a Volvo. It met all the criteria except the reliability. The car was leaking gas and whenever I drove it, I never knew when I'd be done in like one of those old Bond Villains. I had a Tesla Model X...it's up there with the old Ford in term of quality. The Tesla showed well, especially when it was still rare. Doors opened for me then. Because back then, when you were driving a Tesla, you never get lost, you just arrived at the wrong place.

I got rid of the Tesla and went back to my reliable 2014 Honda Accord LX with 95K miles. It's a nice enough car, but it's loud. And I think I might be going deaf driving it...

I'll be driving mostly to work and occasionally meet clients.

Suggestions?
25K will give you a lot more options and low mileage used car. I wouldn't be comfortable buying high mileage car. 15k is still money.

With 25k, you should check out low mileage 2015/2016 model of those cars: Lexus ES, Hyundai Genesis, Cadillac ATS/CTS. Don't bother looking at Camry, Accord and those alike. Those are not in the same class of the vehicle you're looking for.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by inbox788 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:46 pm

Great list, but I do wonder about the accuracy. Why the 2 vastly different 2012 Accord V6 entries? One with a good tune up? Or is that the difference in sound level between an EX-L and a Limited Touring?
Brand Model Spec Year dB at idle dB at 55 mph dB at 65 mph dB at 70 mph dB at 75 mph dB at 85 mph
Acura RLX 3.5 V6 2013 39.5 57.1 60.2 60.4 63.5 64.5
Acura TL 3.7 V6 2010 39.9 54.8 57.4 57.6 61.5 62.8
Honda Accord 3.5V6 2012 39.7 58.5 61.8 62 65.7 66.9
Hyundai Sonata 2.0T 2011 38.2 58.4 61.9 62.1 63.2 63.6
Hyundai Equues 4.6 V8 2011 40.1 58.1 61.3 61.5 64.7 65.8
Kia Sorento EX V6 2011 34.5 55.3 58.9 59.1 61.4 62.2
Kia Sorento V6 2011 34.5 55.3 58.9 59.1 61.4 62.2
Lexus ES 300h 2012 41 57.6 60.5 60.7 62.6 63.3
Lexus GS 300h 2014 41.2 53.4 57.6 58.2 60.9 63.7
Nissan Altima 3.5 V6 2012 38.7 57.2 60.5 60.7 64.1 65.3
Nissan Murano 3.5 V6 2008 40.8 58.1 61.9 62 62.8 63.7
Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT 2010 37.4 55.7 58.9 59.1 62 63
Toyota Avalon Hybrid 2012 38.5 56.5 59.7 59.9 63 64.1
Toyota 4Runner 4.0 V6 2014 43.5 57.9 60.4 60.6 64.3 65.5
Is the 2011 Hyundai Equues reliable? Kia Sorento, Nissan Murano and Subaru Legacy are ones I wouldn't have considered quiet. And like the seat comfort, quiet can be subjective and more than just a number.
lthenderson wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:02 am
There are probably a thousand cars that meat this criteria. My prediction is that you will get so many different answers that you will end up in the same state of indecision you were in before you asked this question.
Took a look at the list and it had almost 2000 cars, but not all meet the criteria. Only 135 are more quiet than the 58.5 at 55 mph, and of those only 61 are more quiet than 66.9 at 85 mph. (BTW, of the 62, the Accord 39.7 comes in at 25th/62 at Idle, but I didn't cut based on that). That Dodge RAM looks awfully good. Anyway, whether you eliminate from the 25 or 62 the cars that aren't more reliable than a Honda Accord, the list gets short very fast, and you can start trying out the seats for personal comfort. (my list above cuts out the American and European Luxury cars, but you might want to keep any you deem reliable)

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Honda	Accord	3.5 V6	2012	47.8	64.9	67.9	68.1	70.3	71.1
Honda	Accord	3.5V6	2012	39.7	58.5	61.8	62.0	65.7	66.9
Honda	Accord	2.4	2013	41.0	60.3	63.7	63.9	66.4	67.2
Honda	Accord	2.0 Stationcar	2013	42.4	61.9	64.6	65.1	66.4	70.4
Honda	Accord	Hybrid	2014	35.0	59.9	64.2	64.4	65.8	66.3

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Brand	Model	Spec	Year	dB at idle	dB at 55 mph	dB at 65 mph	dB at 70 mph	dB at 75 mph	dB at 85 mph
Lexus	GS	300h	2014	41.2	53.4	57.6	58.2	60.9	63.7
Dodge	Ram	5.7 V8	2010	39.2	53.5	56	56.2	58.6	59.4
Mercedes	S	500e	2016	38	54.1	58.6	59.1	60.6	63.5
Toyota	Prius	 	2018	26.3	54.1	67.6	68.8	69.7	71.8
Mercedes	E	63 AMG	2010	43.1	54.2	56.2	56.4	62.1	64.1
Kia	Niro	1.6	2018	27.2	54.4	67.6	68.8	69.7	71.8
Lexus	NX	300h	2018	31.4	54.5	65	66	67.1	68.8
Lexus	RX	450h	2018	32.2	54.5	64.5	65.4	66.6	67.8
Acura	TL	3.7 V6	2010	39.9	54.8	57.4	57.6	61.5	62.8
Volkswagen	Up	Hybrid	2018	28.2	54.8	67.6	68.7	69.7	71.8
Kia	Sorento	EX V6	2011	34.5	55.3	58.9	59.1	61.4	62.2
Kia	Sorento	V6	2011	34.5	55.3	58.9	59.1	61.4	62.2
BMW	i3	0.6	2018	32.2	55.5	66	66.9	68.1	68.8
Subaru	Legacy	2.5 GT	2010	37.4	55.7	58.9	59.1	62	63
Audi	Q7	3.0 TDI Hybrid	2016	42	55.8	59.6	60.2	61.8	65.6
Lexus	LS	600h	2008	38.7	55.8	58.8	59	61.2	62
Audi	Q5	2.0 TDI	2018	40.1	55.9	61.8	62.5	64	65.8
Peugeot	3008	1.2	2018	36.2	56	64.4	65.2	66.5	67.8
Lexus	LS	600h	2013	35.4	56.1	59.7	59.9	61.3	61.8
Volvo	XC60	2.0d	2017	41.3	56.1	60.9	61.5	63.8	67
BMW	2	225xe Active Tourer	2018	34.4	56.2	66	66.9	68.1	69.8
Tesla	Model S	90D	2016	41.3	56.2	59.9	60.5	63.7	66.4
Lexus	RX	450h	2016	32.1	56.3	60.1	60.6	62.4	65.1
Skoda	Octavia	1	2016	35.8	56.3	60.6	61.1	63.6	67
Volkswagen	Tiguan	1.4	2018	35.2	56.3	65.4	66.3	67.6	68.8
Volkswagen	T-Roc	1	2018	36.4	56.3	64.9	65.8	67	68.8
Toyota	C-HR	Hybrid	2018	30.4	56.4	68.6	69.6	70.6	71.8
Volvo	S80	D4	2014	43.5	56.4	60.9	61.5	64.4	67.1
Toyota	Avalon	Hybrid	2012	38.5	56.5	59.7	59.9	63	64.1
Lexus	LS	600h	2016	41	56.6	59.5	59.9	61.5	64.5
Mercedes	E	220d	2016	40.3	56.6	59.9	60.4	62.2	65.2
Volvo	XC90	T8 Twin Engine	2016	37.2	56.6	61.3	62	64.4	67.7
Audi	Q7	3.0 TDI	2015	41.2	56.7	60.5	61.1	63.6	67.5
Ford	F-150	SVT Raptor	2010	37.5	56.7	60.1	60.3	63.5	64.6
Mercedes	GLC	220d	2018	40.1	56.7	63.3	64.1	65.5	67.8
Mercedes	S	500	2014	37.9	56.7	60	60.2	62.4	63.1
Mercedes	E	200	2014	39.8	56.8	60.6	61.1	63.5	67.3
Mercedes	S	350d	2016	41.1	56.8	60.4	60.9	63.5	66.2
BMW	X5	xDrive40e	2016	36.5	56.9	61.2	61.7	62.5	66.8
Hyundai	Kona	1	2018	35.2	56.9	66.4	67.4	68.6	69.8
Lincoln	MKT	3.5 V6	2010	39.3	56.9	59.9	60.1	61.5	62
Mercedes	E	350	2014	38.2	56.9	60.2	60.4	63.7	64.8
Volvo	D6	2.4	2015	43.6	56.9	62.5	63.2	65.9	68.7
Hyundai	Ioniq	1.6	2018	34.4	57	67	67.9	69.1	69.8
Acura	RLX	3.5 V6	2013	39.5	57.1	60.2	60.4	63.5	64.5
Bentley	Bentayga	4.0d	2017	43	57.1	60.6	61.1	64.5	67.6
Cadillac	CTS	Stationcar	2010	42.2	57.1	59.7	59.9	63.1	64.2
Mercedes	GLC	350d	2017	40.6	57.1	59.8	60.1	61.4	64.7
Infinity	M	35H	2012	38.5	57.2	61.6	62.2	65.5	67.7
Land Rover	Discovery	2.0d	2018	40.3	57.2	63.8	64.5	66	67.8
Lexus	GS	450h	2012	41.2	57.2	58.9	59.4	62.9	67.1
Mercedes	S	500	2013	39.8	57.2	61.3	61.9	64.9	66.3
Nissan	Altima	3.5 V6	2012	38.7	57.2	60.5	60.7	64.1	65.3
Rolls Royce	Wraith	6.6 V12	2014	42	57.2	59.9	60.1	65.3	67
Audi	A6	2.0 TDI	2016	41.5	57.3	60.4	60.9	64.1	67.5
Mercedes	C	350E	2015	41.5	57.3	62.9	63.6	66.3	69.3
Tesla	Model S	Hybrid	2012	35.6	57.3	61.1	61.3	62.1	62.4
Volvo	V90	T5 stationcar	2017	44.6	57.3	61.5	62.1	64.3	67.2
Mazda	CX-3	2	2018	36.2	57.4	67	67.9	69.1	71.8
Mini	Countryman	1.5	2018	40.3	57.4	64.3	65.1	66.5	68.8
BMW	5	530i stationcar	2017	37.1	57.5	59.9	60.4	62.7	65.4
Buick	LaCrosse	3.6 V6	2013	41.4	57.5	60.4	60.6	63.8	64.9
Jaguar	XJ	5.0 V8	2014	40.6	57.5	60.5	60.7	64.7	66.1
Land Rover	Discovery Sport	2	2017	36.9	57.5	60.5	60.9	63.6	67.2
Toyota	RAV4	Hybrid	2018	35.4	57.5	67.5	68.4	69.6	71.8
Audi	Q2	1	2018	36.4	57.6	66.9	67.8	69.1	70.8
Bentley	Bentayga	6.0 W12	2016	38.1	57.6	62.6	63.2	64.5	67.6
Citroen	C4	1.2 SpaceTourer	2018	38.2	57.6	65.9	66.7	68	69.8
Ford	Fiesta	1.1	2018	39.1	57.6	65.4	66.2	67.5	69.8
Lexus	ES	300h	2012	41	57.6	60.5	60.7	62.6	63.3
Acura	RLX	3.5 V6	2016	42.2	57.7	60.4	60.6	63.7	64.8
Audi	A8	3.0 TDI	2014	39.8	57.7	61.3	61.8	64.9	66.3
BMW	7	730d	2016	41	57.7	60.7	61.2	63.2	66
Chevrolet	Tahoe	5.3 V8	2014	39.1	57.7	60.9	61.1	63.3	64
GMC	Terrain	3.0 V6	2010	35.6	57.7	61.6	61.8	64.5	65.4
Mazda	CX-5	2.2d	2018	41.1	57.7	64.3	65.1	66.5	68.8
Mercedes	GLC	250d	2015	43.4	57.7	62.2	62.7	64.4	68.2
Audi	Q3	1.4	2018	38.3	57.8	65.9	66.7	68	68.8
Kia	Optima	2	2017	40.7	57.8	61.8	62.3	62.8	67.7
Lexus	NX	300h	2014	34.3	57.8	61.2	61.7	63.7	66.5
Volkswagen	Golf	EV	2017	41.5	57.8	60.8	61.4	64.1	67.5
Audi	Q2	1.4	2018	38.2	57.9	66.4	67.3	68.5	70.8
Audi	Q5	2	2014	38.2	57.9	60.1	60.6	63.9	66.2
BMW	X3	xDrive20d	2018	42.3	57.9	63.8	64.5	66	67.8
Citroen	C4	2.0 HDiF	2008	40.7	57.9	61.7	61.7	62.6	63.6
Citroen	C4 Cactus	1.2	2018	37.2	57.9	66.9	67.8	69.1	70.8
Porsche	Macan	S Diesel	2014	41.2	57.9	60.8	61.3	64.5	66.4
Toyota	4Runner	4.0 V6	2014	43.5	57.9	60.4	60.6	64.3	65.5
BMW	1	120d Coupe	2008	40.8	58	61.5	61.6	62.7	64
Kia	Stonic	1	2018	38.2	58	66.4	67.2	68.5	69.8
Renault	Talisman	1.6	2018	40.1	58	65.4	66.1	67.5	69.8
Audi	A4	2.0 TFSI	2016	43	58.1	61.6	62	64.4	67.6
Audi	Q7	SQ7	2017	43	58.1	61.5	62	63.4	66.5
Audi	SQ7	 	2017	43	58.1	61.5	62	63.4	66.5
BMW	X5	xDrive 30d	2013	41.4	58.1	61.1	61.5	64.8	68.2
Hyundai	Equues	4.6 V8	2011	40.1	58.1	61.3	61.5	64.7	65.8
Mercedes	ML	450/500	2012	41.1	58.1	61.1	61.3	62.9	63.4
Nissan	Murano	3.5 V6	2008	40.8	58.1	61.9	62	62.8	63.7
Peugeot	5008	1.2	2018	39.3	58.1	65.9	66.7	68	69.8
Range Rover	Velar	2.0d	2017	44.2	58.1	60.9	61.4	63.7	65.5
Tesla	Model X	P90D	2016	34.4	58.1	61.8	62.4	64.4	67.2
Volkswagen	Passat	1.4	2018	37.4	58.1	66.9	67.8	69	69.8
BMW	X5	3.0 V6	2014	40.3	58.2	61.4	61.6	64.5	65.5
Lexus	LS	600h L	2010	41.2	58.2	61.2	61.7	63.8	66.5
Mercedes	E	550/500 Coupe	2010	45.2	58.2	60.5	60.7	63.5	64.5
Mercedes	E	220d	2017	43.6	58.2	60.8	61.3	62.9	67.4
Toyota	C-HR	1.2	2018	36.4	58.2	68	68.9	70.1	71.8
Alfa Romeo	Stelvio	2.1d	2017	41.8	58.3	62	62.5	64.5	67.5
Audi	A6	3.0 TFSI Stationcar	2011	38.7	58.3	61.6	62.2	64.6	66.5
BMW	3	318i	2018	39.3	58.3	66.4	67.2	68.5	70.8
BMW	5	550i GT	2010	34.5	58.3	62.5	62.7	66.5	67.8
BMW	5	520d Stationcar	2018	43.3	58.3	63.8	64.4	66	67.8
BMW	X5	xDrive 50i	2014	46.3	58.3	61.6	62	64.5	67.7
Chrysler	300	 	2011	40.9	58.3	61.4	61.6	64.8	65.9
Ford	Edge	2.0D	2016	41.5	58.3	63.1	63.7	66.9	68.2
Jaguar	XF	2.0d	2017	45.2	58.3	62.9	63.5	65.9	68.8
Volkswagen	Passat	1.4 TSI	2011	35.8	58.3	62.7	63.2	65.2	68.2
Volvo	XC60	D4	2018	43.3	58.3	63.8	64.4	66	67.8
BMW	5	ActiveHybrid	2012	41.8	58.4	61.6	62.2	65.3	68
Ford	Fusion	Hybrid	2012	36.7	58.4	62.3	62.5	67.9	69.7
Ford	Kuga	1.6	2013	39.7	58.4	62.3	63	65.7	68
GMC	Sierra	5.3 V8	2013	41.3	58.4	61.4	61.6	63.9	64.7
Hyundai	Sonata	2.0T	2011	38.2	58.4	61.9	62.1	63.2	63.6
Toyota	Auris	Hybrid	2018	40.1	58.4	65.9	66.6	68	69.8
Volvo	V40	D2	2012	43.4	58.4	61.5	62	64.8	68.8
Audi	A8	4.0 V8	2012	40.4	58.5	61.7	61.9	63.8	64.4
Audi	SQ5	3.0 V6	2014	42.7	58.5	63.6	64.1	65.5	68.6
BMW	5	535i	2008	43.6	58.5	61.1	61.3	64.1	65
Ford	Mondeo	1.5	2017	42.3	58.5	62.9	63.5	65.2	68.4
Honda	Accord	3.5V6	2012	39.7	58.5	61.8	62	65.7	66.9
Seat	Arona	1	2018	41.1	58.5	65.3	66.1	67.5	68.8
Volkswagen	Jetta	2.5 V5	2011	39.8	58.5	61.8	62	64.4	65.2
Volkswagen	Jetta	1.4 Hybrid	2013	34.2	58.5	62.6	63.1	64.6	67.6
Volkswagen	Tiguan	2.0d	2018	43.3	58.5	64.3	65	66.5	68.8

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Brand	Model	Spec	Year	dB at idle	dB at 55 mph	dB at 65 mph	dB at 70 mph	dB at 75 mph	dB at 85 mph
Dodge	Ram	5.7 V8	2010	39.2	53.5	56	56.2	58.6	59.4
Lexus	LS	600h	2013	35.4	56.1	59.7	59.9	61.3	61.8
Lexus	LS	600h	2008	38.7	55.8	58.8	59	61.2	62
Lincoln	MKT	3.5 V6	2010	39.3	56.9	59.9	60.1	61.5	62
Kia	Sorento	EX V6	2011	34.5	55.3	58.9	59.1	61.4	62.2
Kia	Sorento	V6	2011	34.5	55.3	58.9	59.1	61.4	62.2
Tesla	Model S	Hybrid	2012	35.6	57.3	61.1	61.3	62.1	62.4
Acura	TL	3.7 V6	2010	39.9	54.8	57.4	57.6	61.5	62.8
Subaru	Legacy	2.5 GT	2010	37.4	55.7	58.9	59.1	62	63
Mercedes	S	500	2014	37.9	56.7	60	60.2	62.4	63.1
Lexus	ES	300h	2012	41	57.6	60.5	60.7	62.6	63.3
Mercedes	ML	450/500	2012	41.1	58.1	61.1	61.3	62.9	63.4
Mercedes	S	500e	2016	38	54.1	58.6	59.1	60.6	63.5
Citroen	C4	2.0 HDiF	2008	40.7	57.9	61.7	61.7	62.6	63.6
Hyundai	Sonata	2.0T	2011	38.2	58.4	61.9	62.1	63.2	63.6
Lexus	GS	300h	2014	41.2	53.4	57.6	58.2	60.9	63.7
Nissan	Murano	3.5 V6	2008	40.8	58.1	61.9	62	62.8	63.7
Chevrolet	Tahoe	5.3 V8	2014	39.1	57.7	60.9	61.1	63.3	64
BMW	1	120d Coupe	2008	40.8	58	61.5	61.6	62.7	64
Mercedes	E	63 AMG	2010	43.1	54.2	56.2	56.4	62.1	64.1
Toyota	Avalon	Hybrid	2012	38.5	56.5	59.7	59.9	63	64.1
Cadillac	CTS	Stationcar	2010	42.2	57.1	59.7	59.9	63.1	64.2
Audi	A8	4.0 V8	2012	40.4	58.5	61.7	61.9	63.8	64.4
Lexus	LS	600h	2016	41	56.6	59.5	59.9	61.5	64.5
Acura	RLX	3.5 V6	2013	39.5	57.1	60.2	60.4	63.5	64.5
Mercedes	E	550/500 Coupe	2010	45.2	58.2	60.5	60.7	63.5	64.5
Ford	F-150	SVT Raptor	2010	37.5	56.7	60.1	60.3	63.5	64.6
Mercedes	GLC	350d	2017	40.6	57.1	59.8	60.1	61.4	64.7
GMC	Sierra	5.3 V8	2013	41.3	58.4	61.4	61.6	63.9	64.7
Mercedes	E	350	2014	38.2	56.9	60.2	60.4	63.7	64.8
Acura	RLX	3.5 V6	2016	42.2	57.7	60.4	60.6	63.7	64.8
Buick	LaCrosse	3.6 V6	2013	41.4	57.5	60.4	60.6	63.8	64.9
BMW	5	535i	2008	43.6	58.5	61.1	61.3	64.1	65
Lexus	RX	450h	2016	32.1	56.3	60.1	60.6	62.4	65.1
Mercedes	E	220d	2016	40.3	56.6	59.9	60.4	62.2	65.2
Volkswagen	Jetta	2.5 V5	2011	39.8	58.5	61.8	62	64.4	65.2
Nissan	Altima	3.5 V6	2012	38.7	57.2	60.5	60.7	64.1	65.3
BMW	5	530i stationcar	2017	37.1	57.5	59.9	60.4	62.7	65.4
GMC	Terrain	3.0 V6	2010	35.6	57.7	61.6	61.8	64.5	65.4
Toyota	4Runner	4.0 V6	2014	43.5	57.9	60.4	60.6	64.3	65.5
Range Rover	Velar	2.0d	2017	44.2	58.1	60.9	61.4	63.7	65.5
BMW	X5	3.0 V6	2014	40.3	58.2	61.4	61.6	64.5	65.5
Audi	Q7	3.0 TDI Hybrid	2016	42	55.8	59.6	60.2	61.8	65.6
Audi	Q5	2.0 TDI	2018	40.1	55.9	61.8	62.5	64	65.8
Hyundai	Equues	4.6 V8	2011	40.1	58.1	61.3	61.5	64.7	65.8
Chrysler	300	 	2011	40.9	58.3	61.4	61.6	64.8	65.9
BMW	7	730d	2016	41	57.7	60.7	61.2	63.2	66
Jaguar	XJ	5.0 V8	2014	40.6	57.5	60.5	60.7	64.7	66.1
Mercedes	S	350d	2016	41.1	56.8	60.4	60.9	63.5	66.2
Audi	Q5	2	2014	38.2	57.9	60.1	60.6	63.9	66.2
Mercedes	S	500	2013	39.8	57.2	61.3	61.9	64.9	66.3
Audi	A8	3.0 TDI	2014	39.8	57.7	61.3	61.8	64.9	66.3
Tesla	Model S	90D	2016	41.3	56.2	59.9	60.5	63.7	66.4
Porsche	Macan	S Diesel	2014	41.2	57.9	60.8	61.3	64.5	66.4
Lexus	NX	300h	2014	34.3	57.8	61.2	61.7	63.7	66.5
Audi	Q7	SQ7	2017	43	58.1	61.5	62	63.4	66.5
Audi	SQ7	 	2017	43	58.1	61.5	62	63.4	66.5
Lexus	LS	600h L	2010	41.2	58.2	61.2	61.7	63.8	66.5
Audi	A6	3.0 TFSI Stationcar	2011	38.7	58.3	61.6	62.2	64.6	66.5
BMW	X5	xDrive40e	2016	36.5	56.9	61.2	61.7	62.5	66.8
Honda	Accord	3.5V6	2012	39.7	58.5	61.8	62	65.7	66.9

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by surfstar » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:00 pm

Brand new VW Jetta. They can be found for $15k. 6yr/72k warranty standard.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by cannondale » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:02 pm

JoeRetire wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:14 am
cannondale wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:48 am
I got rid of the Tesla and went back to my reliable 2014 Honda Accord LX with 95K miles. It's a nice enough car, but it's loud. And I think I might be going deaf driving it...
Why did you get rid of the Tesla? Pretty much any car will sound louder.

Perhaps you should make sure the muffler is working well on the Accord?
It was an awful car as it was in the shop averaging 5 days/month. The frame was misaligned, in my opinion, so there was nothing they could do about all the gaps. I got a sound meter at at 75mph, the cabin noise was around 78-82 db

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by inbox788 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:02 pm

If it's just the noise with the Accord, maybe there's a fix or upgrade that's less expensive than a car upgrade:

2013 2014 2015 Honda Accord Wind Noise Fix -DiyCarModz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZL6yNho8ng

CCS Car Comfort Shop Honda Accord - Full Soundproofing!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdFiLqdQJto

Hohda Accord Soundproofing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEUZIJDbSsw

Full soundproofing can be expensive, time consuming, and might add more weight and impact mileage, so probably not worth doing, but if it's just a spot (doors and front wheel wells), it might be worth a little time and expense.

https://www.driveaccord.net/threads/8th ... or.103826/

Car Door Sound Deadening for Under $20! - BMW Z4 Vlog #20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe6GOTybE1U

New tires might help a little too.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by JEC » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:21 pm

JoeRetire wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:26 pm
JEC wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:16 pm
I drive a 2014 Accord Sport. Paid $14k for it. Bought it used with 20k miles. The car you own seems to be the perfect one for your parameters. I definitely wouldn't classify it as loud. I would agree you perhaps have an issue worth checking out before purchasing a new car.
It's certainly louder than a Tesla.
Nobody is disputing that it's louder than a Tesla. However, because his budget is $15k, I'm not sure how relevant that fact is.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by cannondale » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:35 pm

surfstar wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:00 pm
Brand new VW Jetta. They can be found for $15k. 6yr/72k warranty standard.
Hey. This isn't such a bad idea. I know they're giving these away for awhile! And I don't keep my car that long...

Do you know if they really cheapen out on the lower trim (like they do the Accord) as oppose to the higher trim? When I mean cheapened, I mean like sound deadening and cheap seats.

Thanks!

ETA: The new Jetta doesn't have lumbar adjustment :oops: !
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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by Winston19 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:38 pm

Sometimes tire choice can have a significant impact on noise and ride. If your tires don't do well in this area consider looking for different tires.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by cannondale » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:48 pm

Winston19 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:38 pm
Sometimes tire choice can have a significant impact on noise and ride. If your tires don't do well in this area consider looking for different tires.
I agree. I have pretty good tires...Just the wind noise is killing me! :)

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by Winston19 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:46 pm

cannondale wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:48 pm
Winston19 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:38 pm
Sometimes tire choice can have a significant impact on noise and ride. If your tires don't do well in this area consider looking for different tires.
I agree. I have pretty good tires...Just the wind noise is killing me! :)
Sounds like you need a louder stereo :)

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by Starfish » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:42 pm

Criteria are a bit contradictory. Comfortable seat and quit suggest a premium car, but premium cars are usually not great on gas (at least compared to the other options).
Driving noise is dominated by tires. As suggested, switching the tires would be a good start.
Another simple solution is wear ear plugs.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by Winston19 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:19 pm

Starfish wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:42 pm
Criteria are a bit contradictory. Comfortable seat and quit suggest a premium car, but premium cars are usually not great on gas (at least compared to the other options).
Driving noise is dominated by tires. As suggested, switching the tires would be a good start.
Another simple solution is wear ear plugs.
Used Toyota Avalon hybrid probably meets the criteria except for price.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by surfstar » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:24 pm

Something luxury or luxury-like with a super high depreciation rate. Hyundai Genesis was already brought up, and that or similar might be the way to go...
As the new VW Jetta didn't have lumbar adjustment (crazy!) maybe a base model Golf? I find them to be quiet for the class, but certainly not up to luxury car standards, I would imagine (used Avalon was another good suggestion).

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by randomguy » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:59 pm

Starfish wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:42 pm
Criteria are a bit contradictory. Comfortable seat and quit suggest a premium car, but premium cars are usually not great on gas (at least compared to the other options).
Driving noise is dominated by tires. As suggested, switching the tires would be a good start.
Another simple solution is wear ear plugs.
Wearing earplugs while driving is illegal in several states. A lot more ban headphones.

Lexus is hybrid is probably the only thing that gets good gas mileage, has comfortable seats, and is quiet. Might be more like 25k though unless you can find a really high mileage one. Relax the gas requirements and a lot more options show up.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by cannondale » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:24 am

flyphotoguy wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:27 pm
IntangibleAssets wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:22 am
I would also advocate for:

Lexus ES 300h

Toyota Avalon Hybrid

Camry XLE hybrid

All of these would meet the the criteria, the first 2 being more quiet. Gas mileage would be good as well.
+1... Maybe look at Cadillac sedans too if you find them interesting. But check the reliability\durability from reviews of the specific model. Rode a friends escalade SUV and it feels nice, comfy and solid. Since they probably need to move cars out of the dealership since the focus is SUV/crossover, you might get a good price for em. Good luck!
Gosh, I can't imagine the mpg on an Escalade. They are nice, though! But Caddies aren't known for their reliability.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by cannondale » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:31 am

inbox788 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:46 pm
Great list, but I do wonder about the accuracy. Why the 2 vastly different 2012 Accord V6 entries? One with a good tune up? Or is that the difference in sound level between an EX-L and a Limited Touring?
Thanks for the detailed analysis. I wouldn't consider any Honda V6 to be reliable at all, especially the transmission. I know, our family had 4 and we had to replace 3 transmissions...

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by JoeRetire » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:36 am

JEC wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:21 pm
JoeRetire wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:26 pm
JEC wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:16 pm
I drive a 2014 Accord Sport. Paid $14k for it. Bought it used with 20k miles. The car you own seems to be the perfect one for your parameters. I definitely wouldn't classify it as loud. I would agree you perhaps have an issue worth checking out before purchasing a new car.
It's certainly louder than a Tesla.
Nobody is disputing that it's louder than a Tesla. However, because his budget is $15k, I'm not sure how relevant that fact is.
The concern is that everything will compare negatively to the Tesla.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by jeffyscott » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:07 am

As others have noted VWs tend to be quiet. Our old Jetta was.

Recently had a brief test drive of a Fusion and it was very comfortable for us and seemed quiet. We are pretty fussy about seats, with the seat depth being a big issue.

If you look at the CR annual auto issue, you can find their noise ratings. In the April 2019 issue, nearly all midsize get the second highest rating for noise including the Accord, but maybe it was different for the 2014 model year. Their highest noise ratings tend to be among the bigger cars and luxury cars.
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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by NHRATA01 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:31 pm

Recent year Buick LaCrosse or Regal will get you what you want at pretty reasonable mileage for $15K vs a comparable Lexus or Acura. Buick has done well in the reliability rankings for the past few years.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by 02nz » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:51 pm

I have an '18 Chevy Volt that I really like for commuting. 50-60 miles of electric range, works like a regular hybrid after that (40+ MPG), so no range anxiety. Charging overnight is usually enough even on just 110V. Running in electric mode (90% of my miles so far), my per-mile cost is less than half of what it would cost in gas (and that's in the already quite efficient hybrid mode). Here in CA I also get an HOV sticker. Handles well, very quiet esp. in electric mode. Back seat is tight though.

I'm seeing '16 and later Volts (gen 2) right around the $15K mark. Note that the Volt has been discontinued, but it should be fine for service/parts for many years to come. I believe the warranty on the battery is 8 years/100K miles.
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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by ohai » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:52 pm

Is wind noise really a deal breaker for you in choosing a car? Can't you just play some classical music or something?

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by inbox788 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:23 pm

cannondale wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:31 am
Thanks for the detailed analysis. I wouldn't consider any Honda V6 to be reliable at all, especially the transmission. I know, our family had 4 and we had to replace 3 transmissions...
The 4 cylinder is 1-2 dB louder, so opens up scores more candidates, but once you apply the dollar and reliability filters, you'd only end up with another handful or two of options.

OP, as far as wind noise on your Accord, have you looked into TSB and/or window channel rubber noise mitigation techniques (like Youtube video linked above)? Seems like results are hit or miss, but some steps are relatively simple and DIY.

As far as your requirements, 1) quiet, 2) cost, 3) comfort and 4) reliability, pick any 2 or 3 you want to maximize and your decision is simple.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_m ... t_triangle

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by cannondale » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:28 am

ohai wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:52 pm
Is wind noise really a deal breaker for you in choosing a car? Can't you just play some classical music or something?
Can't really hear classical music with that kind of noise.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by cannondale » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:32 am

inbox788 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:23 pm
cannondale wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:31 am
Thanks for the detailed analysis. I wouldn't consider any Honda V6 to be reliable at all, especially the transmission. I know, our family had 4 and we had to replace 3 transmissions...
The 4 cylinder is 1-2 dB louder, so opens up scores more candidates, but once you apply the dollar and reliability filters, you'd only end up with another handful or two of options.

OP, as far as wind noise on your Accord, have you looked into TSB and/or window channel rubber noise mitigation techniques (like Youtube video linked above)? Seems like results are hit or miss, but some steps are relatively simple and DIY.

As far as your requirements, 1) quiet, 2) cost, 3) comfort and 4) reliability, pick any 2 or 3 you want to maximize and your decision is simple.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_m ... t_triangle
I haven't. I looked into pulling the car out and putting in sound deadening materials, but one of the guys that did it said it didn't make a difference. Plus I'm pretty lazy about that stuff.

I haven't checked into the wind noise DIY stuff. I'll have a look.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by cannondale » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:36 am

02nz wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:51 pm
I have an '18 Chevy Volt that I really like for commuting. 50-60 miles of electric range, works like a regular hybrid after that (40+ MPG), so no range anxiety. Charging overnight is usually enough even on just 110V. Running in electric mode (90% of my miles so far), my per-mile cost is less than half of what it would cost in gas (and that's in the already quite efficient hybrid mode). Here in CA I also get an HOV sticker. Handles well, very quiet esp. in electric mode. Back seat is tight though.

I'm seeing '16 and later Volts (gen 2) right around the $15K mark. Note that the Volt has been discontinued, but it should be fine for service/parts for many years to come. I believe the warranty on the battery is 8 years/100K miles.
I'm looking into Volt and its closest competitor, the Honda Clarity. I've heard that it's a great quiet car with good gas mileave.
So, from May-July, Honda is running some kinda special. I've read some guy was about to get a touring clarity for 30K OTD!
I'm in California, so that's $2500 State Tax Credits, $7500 federal tax credit, and $1000 cash from SCE.
I can theoretically can get a brand new 2019 Honda Clarity for $19K!

I'm going to have to test drive this car.

SR II
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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by SR II » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:43 am

NHRATA01 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:31 pm
Recent year Buick LaCrosse or Regal will get you what you want at pretty reasonable mileage for $15K vs a comparable Lexus or Acura. Buick has done well in the reliability rankings for the past few years.
I was also going to recommend a slightly used Buick; quiet and comfortable.

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Re: 15K CAR with comfortable seats and quiet

Post by ohai » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:50 am

cannondale wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:28 am
ohai wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:52 pm
Is wind noise really a deal breaker for you in choosing a car? Can't you just play some classical music or something?
Can't really hear classical music with that kind of noise.
You are kidding me at this point. Have you modified your car or is the window broken or something? Or do you drive at like 150 mph?

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