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Teeth Whitening

Post by InvestingAg » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:15 am

To preface, I do not believe myself to be someone particularly concerned with my appearance, but after years of heavy coffee drinking I have some increased stain on my teeth that I would like worked on. Has anyone had experience with teeth whitening? Considering doing whitening through my dentist. My understanding is, $200 gets me a molding of my teeth and several months worth of whitening 'gel'. I believe after that, each additional 'syringe' of gel only cost $15. Theoretically, one or two syringes would last me for a whole year. To me, an initial $200 plus $15-30/yr is not crazy to pay out of pocket for whiter teeth. What I am afraid of, is these syringes only turn out to last for a short period of time and suddenly I am finding myself wanting to spend $200/yr on the whitening gel. Thoughts? Anyone had any other experiences getting good results with moderate teeth whitening at a reasonable cost?

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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by goingup » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:27 am

I don't know how stained your teeth are, but Crest White Strips work great. You can buy them anywhere and the time commitment is 30 minutes per use.

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Post by khh » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:54 am

Crest White Strips Supreme is the best whitener I've found. Crest makes several White Strips, but the Supreme is the strongest.

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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by dm200 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:56 am

My new dentist recently asked me about this. :)

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Post by MnD » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:07 pm

My dentist recommended these "Sheer White!" 20% carbamide peroxide strip set (5 sets of strips per box) 5-day treatment that does an amazing job. I couldn't tolerate using Crest strips at all due to teeth nerve sensitivity. This product contains an additional ingredient that completely eliminates sensitivity (in my experience).

https://www.amazon.com/Sheer-White-Whit ... 00JAOQLSC/
We now buy them on Amazon for $23 a box in the two box set (we both use them) a couple times a year.
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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by dm200 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:12 pm

I never realized this about crowns until this new dentist is doing several new crowns for me - he orders the crowns to match the color of my other teeth.

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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by JediMisty » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:21 pm

khh wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:54 am
Crest White Strips Supreme is the best whitener I've found. Crest makes several White Strips, but the Supreme is the strongest.
Using Crest Whitestrips Supreme today, as a matter of fact. I did the tray thing at my dentist and found the use cumbersome, so I never did more than one application. As this poster said, the Whitestrips Supreme are the strongest. Very easy to use - twice a day, thirty minutes each time for three weeks. I use them every six to nine months. If your teeth feel a little sensitive, just wait a day or two and then start using them again. I buy them on Amazon, but I think dentists sell them, too. I cannot find them in stores. I drink tea, but that stains also. They cost around sixty dollars per package for three weeks.

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Post by ncbill » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:23 pm

Yeah, don't forget about the increased likelihood of tooth sensitivity.

I have enough of the latter that I've never been tempted to pursue tooth whitening.

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Post by Jazzysoon » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:25 pm

I found the at home trays cumbersome and am using this toothpaste. It had great reviews and I do think it makes a difference.

https://www.ulta.com/activated-charcoal ... ac97b14b9a
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Post by LilyFleur » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:26 pm

I recently asked my dentist about the trays, and it is now $375 to get started!

I decided that the Crest strips from Costco would be just fine.

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Post by Grt2bOutdoors » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:35 pm

My dentist recommends OpticWhite toothpaste first. If that doesn't satisfy you, then move onto the strips.
I've used the Crest 3D White toothpaste, can say it gives results good enough that I don't bother with the strips.
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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by InvestingAg » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:31 pm

Jazzysoon wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:25 pm
I found the at home trays cumbersome and am using this toothpaste daily. It had great reviews and I do think it makes a difference.

https://www.ulta.com/activated-charcoal ... ac97b14b9a
Was told by my dentist today that activated charcoal is an abrasive and can actually wear at your enamel and he did not recommend it.

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Post by RickBoglehead » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:37 pm

Costco has a unique packaging configuration of Crest Whitestrips.
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Post by PalmQueen » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:40 pm

I got the trays made by my dentist years ago when over-the-counter options were limited. All the young people in the office had these sparkling white smiles. I thought maybe it was thanks to improved childhood nutrition. Turns out in their world this is something everyone does.

Your dentist's recommendation/price sound fair if you want to go that route.
I have no experience with today's over-the-counter products, but they're so popular I expect they work too.

As to ongoing upkeep, it works well to use the gel for a few days after each time the hygienist cleans your teeth. That's the best time to do the whitening because your teeth are super clean.

For cost planning purposes, figure 2 syringes each times the number of times a year you have teeth cleaned.

The brand my dentist sells are also available through Amazon:
OPALESCENCE 35% MINT TEETH TOOTH WHITENING GEL 4SY by ULTRADENT

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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by elainet7 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:52 pm

Use SEnsodyne for a few weeks prior to whitening to reduce sensitivity
OPAL 10% is the choice 35% is way too strong

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Post by BL » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:58 pm

I had a toothbrush with Optic White paste plus a whitening pen. I thought the pen helped quite a bit, but couldn't find it in the stores later. Now I see pens on Amazon so I might try it again. I like simple.

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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by likegarden » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:34 pm

I would like that my teeth survive many more years. Teeth whitening seems to use harsh chemicals, wonder how these teeth will do after 10 or 20 years of application - more cavities at least, surface will get more brittle?

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Post by tennisplyr » Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:11 pm

I found that sloshing some hydrogen peroxide in my mouth has made my teeth noticeably whiter....very cheap also.
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Post by RickBoglehead » Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:29 pm

tennisplyr wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:11 pm
I found that sloshing some hydrogen peroxide in my mouth has made my teeth noticeably whiter....very cheap also.
Better dilute that by 50%.
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Post by toofache32 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:06 pm

I thought medical issues were forbidden here.

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Post by Vanguard Fan 1367 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:41 pm

Wal Mart and others carry Opalescence Go Whitening trays. I haven't tried them but I think they might be worth looking into.

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Post by HereToLearn » Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:02 am

I paid $500 to have the trays made up 15+ years ago and pay $10 for each tube of whitening gel. Once you have completed the initial 'treatment', I think you will find that you do not need more than a couple of tubes of gel per year.

Ask your dentist to give you the molds so that you can have the trays made up again if they start to stretch too much.

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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by unclescrooge » Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:22 am

elainet7 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:52 pm
Use SEnsodyne for a few weeks prior to whitening to reduce sensitivity
OPAL 10% is the choice 35% is way too strong
I just permanently use sensodyne teeth whitening tooth paste.

Kills two birds with one stone.

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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by dalbright » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:05 am

I was planning to use the crest white strips recently for the same reason due to long term coffee use. The strip versions are based soley on the strength, thus why some work faster than other versions, but the stronger ones can cause more irritation. Using a toothpaste like sensodyne can help, as can taking breaks between strips if needed. Be sure to monitor what you eat closely following the sessions as some food/drinks such as i believe red wine can cause the teeth to actually get darker during the treatments. FWIW, i ended up just using some baking soda/peroxide toothpaste from colgate with surprisingly pleasing results for the time being and will be using some strips at the next big sale.

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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by Grt2bOutdoors » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:18 am

toofache32 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:06 pm
I thought medical issues were forbidden here.
When did food staining become a medical issue?
It’s stain lifting.
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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by Rus In Urbe » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:33 am

I've had my teeth whitened by the dentist.

But note----new study on how much whitening seriously weakens the enamel.
https://www.today.com/health/too-much-w ... ds-t151776

PS......DON'T swish hydrogen peroxide in your mouth!
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Post by staythecourse » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:48 am

elainet7 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:52 pm
Use SEnsodyne for a few weeks prior to whitening to reduce sensitivity
OPAL 10% is the choice 35% is way too strong
Thanks for the advice. I have used crest strips in past. Worked great, but very quickly had teeth sensitivity. I seem to be having more again for no reason. Maybe will try sensodyne. Thought it was more of a marketing niche for them and did not know it really does help with sensitive teeth.

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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by tman9940 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:07 am

I used the Gel from a dentist--seems to work but you need to be very careful with it...if any gets on your gums or tounge, it will burn! Not for a minute...for days! My gums were very red after doing the gel.

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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by elainet7 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:56 pm

best method is trays made by dentist and OPAL 10% by ultradent
used it foir years in practice

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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by capsaicinguy » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:11 pm

elainet7 wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:56 pm
best method is trays made by dentist and OPAL 10% by ultradent
used it foir years in practice
This. Anything over 10% just gives you more side effects of sensitivity. Crest whitestrips work as well but take much longer and the gel will get on your gingiva. The trays help keep it just on the teeth.

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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by toofache32 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:22 pm

Grt2bOutdoors wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:18 am
toofache32 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:06 pm
I thought medical issues were forbidden here.
When did food staining become a medical issue?
It’s stain lifting.
When state boards began regulating these services.

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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by peetsperk » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:07 am

toofache32 wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:22 pm
Grt2bOutdoors wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:18 am
toofache32 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:06 pm
I thought medical issues were forbidden here.
When did food staining become a medical issue?
It’s stain lifting.
When state boards began regulating these services.
Whitening toothpaste and teeth whiteners are all regulated by the FDA as drugs. They are no different than nonprescription pain relievers and heartburn medications. I spent a lifetime working in this area so I know of what I speak.

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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by F150HD » Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:30 am

I don't know how stained your teeth are, but Crest White Strips work great. You can buy them anywhere and the time commitment is 30 minutes per use.
Coffee here too.

I tried several of these and they didn't do much at all. YMMV
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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by toofache32 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:29 am

peetsperk wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:07 am
toofache32 wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:22 pm
Grt2bOutdoors wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:18 am
toofache32 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:06 pm
I thought medical issues were forbidden here.
When did food staining become a medical issue?
It’s stain lifting.
When state boards began regulating these services.
Whitening toothpaste and teeth whiteners are all regulated by the FDA as drugs. They are no different than nonprescription pain relievers and heartburn medications. I spent a lifetime working in this area so I know of what I speak.
As do I with state boards.
What’s the best medication to treat my heartburn? Would you recommend Prilosec over Zantac? Any side effects?
I suspect these questions would get shut down pretty quick here, when they are no different.

I don't really care, I was just curious to understand when this "no medical advice" rule gets enforced.
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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by Grt2bOutdoors » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:06 am

peetsperk wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:07 am
toofache32 wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:22 pm
Grt2bOutdoors wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:18 am
toofache32 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:06 pm
I thought medical issues were forbidden here.
When did food staining become a medical issue?
It’s stain lifting.
When state boards began regulating these services.
Whitening toothpaste and teeth whiteners are all regulated by the FDA as drugs. They are no different than nonprescription pain relievers and heartburn medications. I spent a lifetime working in this area so I know of what I speak.
Wow, was not aware of that. Thanks for updating us.
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Re: Teeth Whitening

Post by toofache32 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:56 am

sorry duplicate
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