What common everyday inconvenience have you intentionally suffered for frugality?

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CarpeDiem22 wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:45 am My cellphone is 2 years and 3 months old and the battery won't last one full day. I keep one charger at home and one in office. If I am travelling, I carry a compact power bank. However, I don't consider this an inconvenience really as it still performs decently, and I anyways had a spare charger and a power bank. I will junk the phone if performance issues develop.
You think 2 and a half years is old? Do you still have the awesome Apple battery throttling so you'll be dead slug slow?

I only replaced my 6 year old 4s because it would not sync with my work's new email system. That phone was free from my last job (they said it was too old to bother with when I left). My current job paid for my "new" 5s, which to me is now 6 months old. I see that this "new" phone was made in 2013.
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Life is too short - I don't like "everyday" inconveniences if I can afford to avoid them.
I did suffer not traveling first-class to Europe recently but saved about $2000 for doing so (and also saved enough mile-age points for the next trip over). Luckily managed to get a bulk-head seat so kept telling myself it was "almost" first class ...

Not replacing a light-bulb - really? Is that frugality allowing you to retire one minute earlier than you would have otherwise and thus worthwhile?
I don't get the MMM movement - live like a pauper so you don't have to work - I'd rather work and enjoy life while doing so.
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workingovertime wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:35 pm Curious to see some examples. No judgement!

Some of mine:
-Haven't replaced car battery for few months so instead of having keyless entry/start, now I have to take out manual key from keyfob and insert keyfob that happens to be under the center console every time. A real hassle when you have full hands or raining
-Haven't replaced bedroom light bulb that's been out for a while now. Now instead, I just use this "annoying" yellow light that I despise instead of my preferred white light
The light-bulb thing more like laziness than frugality - something I would do but only because "I haven't gotten around to changing it" rather than saving $1. As Daft mentioned - unless you are really a MMM-FIRE type and figure this will allow you to retire 5 minutes earlier than you would have otherwise.
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Nicolas wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:23 pm
multiham wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:16 pm
Nicolas wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:01 pm I drove a 1996 Corolla into the ground. I bought it from my daughter in 2008 for $3K. It was overpriced but it was my daughter so I didn’t care.

Eventually the gas tank sprung a leak but it was at the top so if I didn’t fill the tank all the way it wouldn’t slosh out. Then the volume knob fell off the radio so I used my leatherman to adjust it after that.

Then the electric door locks went haywire, the locks continually locked and unlocked themselves with no way to control them. So I pulled out the fuse for the door locks and left it out. I used my key and fingers to lock and unlock after that, like in the old days. But I found out the windows shared the same fuse as the door locks so now my windows wouldn’t go up or down anymore. I left them up. It was good the AC still worked so in the summer I was okay.

I drove it like that until one of the fuel injectors failed. The estimated repair was $300 so I junked it last year.
I truly hope that there was sarcasm in this post. No one should ever drive a car or run any equipment with a leak in the gas tank. I'm not worried about you since you knew about it. I'm worried about others who may be impacted by the lack of safety with your car. Everything else you posted are just conveniences.
No sarcasm, everything I wrote happened. I never considered the safety hazard, perhaps I should’ve. I was the only driver of this car.

I used to drive a car where the floor began to rust out and a hole developed, you could see the road. If I drove through a puddle it would sometimes splash up at me. It was a 1970 Nova.
Yes of course - what could possibly go wrong?
Driving a car with a known gas leak and you cannot always rely on getting out the doors along with windows that do not go up or down.
No safety issues here.
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workingovertime wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:35 pm Curious to see some examples. No judgement!

Some of mine:
-Haven't replaced car battery for few months so instead of having keyless entry/start, now I have to take out manual key from keyfob and insert keyfob that happens to be under the center console every time. A real hassle when you have full hands or raining
-Haven't replaced bedroom light bulb that's been out for a while now. Now instead, I just use this "annoying" yellow light that I despise instead of my preferred white light
Back when I was at school, I lived off campus, but brushed my teeth in the public restroom on campus to save my water bill. In the morning, if I could manage, I would hold off on "doing my business" at home until I got to campus to save on toilet paper also. (I had a few close calls!)

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I have Xfinity mobile, and leave my data switched off. The service costs under $3/mo so long as I don't exceed 100mb of data. If I exceed this limit and use under 1G of data, it's only $12 more for the month which is still cheap. I still leave my data off and look for wifi hot spots if I'm away from home.
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If not paying a fortune for parking and auto insurance counts as an inconvenience, then that would be mine.
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1) I bought a house that is way smaller and less expensive than what most people in my income bracket buy
2) I bought a car that is less expensive than what most people in my income bracket buy
3) Got lucky with not having a high amount of student loans
4) I don't own a boat, timeshare, or other similar recurring money pit

Everything else I spend money on is a rounding error compared to the above, so I try not to worry about the little things.
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I cook my own food and clean my own house, instead of going out to eat or hiring a cleaning person.
Yes, I’m really that pedantic.
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all sorts of things, for example, haven't changed the oil on our car yet, it's now -2000 miles since it's due...oh well, time is tight...i'll get to it when i can. other priorities.
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I use a portable bluetooth speaker in my car, rather than replacing the car audio. This is also laziness of getting the car audio system replaced (2006 model, no aux nor bluetooth connections, nor a tape deck). I have to remember to bring it inside to charge every few days, or use the DC adapter in the car.

Instead of running the heat when I'm home alone, I opt instead for an extra blanket (when sleeping) or a sweater (when awake). I'll set guests' preferred temperatures as appropriate though.

I'm told it's inconvenient to walk when playing golf, but I prefer it to riding when I can. I do own a push-cart, so I'm not carrying my bag.
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squirm wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:23 am all sorts of things, for example, haven't changed the oil on our car yet, it's now -2000 miles since it's due...oh well, time is tight...i'll get to it when i can. other priorities.
That’s not frugal. Frugal is not cheap for cheap’s sake. It implies being prudent with resources. Potentially shortening the life of your car because you were too cheap or lazy to get a recommended oil change isn’t frugal. It’s penny wise and pound foolish.
Yes, I’m really that pedantic.
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Now this is a thread that is right up my alley. A few off the top of my head:

-2 profession household, 1 car. I walk to work (rain, snow, or shine) and I ride my bike pretty much everywhere else. We have a bike trailer which was purchased to pull the kids around, but both now ride bikes themselves, so now its primary use is to carry my groceries home from the store. Wouldn't consider this an inconvenience at all, but most do.
-Cold showers. There are some health benefits, but I'd be lying if I said that was the only reason I do it. Actually, most of my showers are at my office gym. We've owned our home for 3yrs now, pretty sure I've never taken a hot shower.
-Hang dry clothes. Increases lifespan of clothing dramatically and saves a little electricity. My wife does like some things dried (especially towels), but we about 1 load is put in the dryer every other week (for a family of 4).
-Much to my wife's dismay, I very rarely turn on lights. Something that doesn't make sense to me, my wife is one which will turn on every light in the house, in the middle of the day. Unless I absolutely need it to see, the lights don't go on. Again, not an inconvenience to me, but many people wouldn't dream of doing some things that I am used to doing without artificial light.
-Similarly, I will never turn on the heat/ac if I am alone. Never.
-Cook 100% of food. I haven't been out to eat since our wedding anniversary...1.5yrs ago. My wife will occasionally (maybe 2x a month) get lunch with friends of co-workers. My kids (6 and 3) have been inside a restaurant maybe a handful of times in their life. Eating out simply isn't part of our lifestyle.
-Do as much home and car maintenance as we can. I refuse to pay someone for something I can do myself, even though my engineering and mechanical abilities are very marginal. Youtube is my friend.

When I was single, I did pretty much everything already mentioned in this thread...and then some. Family life has made me a little soft.
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I refuse to buy a Diet Coke at a fast food place even if I really want one as it costs 10x what I can get it for at the grocery store. I also cannot bring myself to pay full price for Diet Coke at the grocery store. I try to plan ahead, and buy multiple cases when on sale. Sometimes I run out and go to the store and see it is almost $6 for a 12 pack and just leave. I can get them on sale for $3 or less. Those stick out to me as I don't drink coffee and when you get used to having your daily caffeine....

Generally though, I don't suffer over a few pennies (or dollars). To be honest, some of the frugal things I do (and I am sure others are like this) I don't feel like I am suffering at all as you get used to it over time.
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Keepcalm wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:39 pm never understood this.

if you have the financial staples in order, hell you can hit Starbucks every morning and be just fine.

life is too short to pinch frugality like that.
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My husband and I still recycle big freezer bag, the larger one, we use it to store fresh lettuce or herbs or half eaten fruit. Nothing dirty. My husband rinses them when he washes pots and pans, so no waste of water either. It’s one of the holdover habits from reading the Tightwad gazette. But we feel it’s better for the environment. We recycle all vegetable peels, etc.. we feed them to the warm. Again it’s for the environment but the compost comes out of them is unbelievable good for my garden.
But I don’t consider them something we’re suffered because we’ve been doing them for years, at least 20 years.
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2015 wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:18 pm I haven't "suffered" because I refuse to hire a cleaning service. I'm retired, have the time, and I do it better and faster than they do besides (without breaking anything!).
This is what we do too. But we don’t maintain our house super clean, maybe the side benefit is we don’t get sick as often. The living in dirt part. :D
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goodlifer wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:31 am These examples are all nuts. The whole reason to make money is to avoid having to deal with these types of problems. You know what I intentionally suffered today? I made the horseradish sauce for our prime rib roast with yogurt instead of sour cream because I didn't want to send my husband out to the store while he was enjoying his vacation. We used the the regular silverware and the Mikasa plates instead of the sterling flatware and Wedgwood plates because I didn't want to hand wash after eating. True story! I'm not joking at all.
We used our Crate and Barrel plates and silverware instead of our Wedgewood over the holidays because it matches better with the flowers. We have red and white color theme in our decorations.
The Wedgewood set will be used around Thanksgiving now, plus I now suggest my husband to Not handwash anything anymore. Everything goes into the dishwasher. Simplify our life.
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We suffer in the winter with no heat in the house, even though it's SoCal and obviously not life-threatening. We make do with beanie hats and scarves, sometimes gloves.
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We still drive cars. Never owned an SUV.
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michaeljc70 wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:01 pm I refuse to buy a Diet Coke at a fast food place even if I really want one as it costs 10x what I can get it for at the grocery store. I also cannot bring myself to pay full price for Diet Coke at the grocery store. I try to plan ahead, and buy multiple cases when on sale. Sometimes I run out and go to the store and see it is almost $6 for a 12 pack and just leave. I can get them on sale for $3 or less. Those stick out to me as I don't drink coffee and when you get used to having your daily caffeine....

Generally though, I don't suffer over a few pennies (or dollars). To be honest, some of the frugal things I do (and I am sure others are like this) I don't feel like I am suffering at all as you get used to it over time.
We are opposites on Diet Coke. The ONLY time I buy it is when at a restaurant. My normal beverages are water or milk with wine or beer for special occasions.
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Never go to theater/gym/restaurants/bars/coffee shops. I’ve become a decent cook, barista, and mixologist. Have a nice little home gym/theater.
Lyft/walk/bus/Zipcar: I loathe owning a car. Biggest waste of money.
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juliewongferra wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:28 am
workingovertime wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:35 pm Curious to see some examples. No judgement!

Some of mine:
-Haven't replaced car battery for few months so instead of having keyless entry/start, now I have to take out manual key from keyfob and insert keyfob that happens to be under the center console every time. A real hassle when you have full hands or raining
-Haven't replaced bedroom light bulb that's been out for a while now. Now instead, I just use this "annoying" yellow light that I despise instead of my preferred white light
Back when I was at school, I lived off campus, but brushed my teeth in the public restroom on campus to save my water bill. In the morning, if I could manage, I would hold off on "doing my business" at home until I got to campus to save on toilet paper also. (I had a few close calls!)

cheers!
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Same but only for going No 1 @ bathroom and unless of course it is anything too urgent or to the point where it would be bad for health. If I'm going to a grocery store down the road for example, why use my own water at home when I could just use it there? No big deal. Little sacrifice (and of course little gain) but why not?
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DrGoogle2017 wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:13 pm
goodlifer wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:31 am These examples are all nuts. The whole reason to make money is to avoid having to deal with these types of problems. You know what I intentionally suffered today? I made the horseradish sauce for our prime rib roast with yogurt instead of sour cream because I didn't want to send my husband out to the store while he was enjoying his vacation. We used the the regular silverware and the Mikasa plates instead of the sterling flatware and Wedgwood plates because I didn't want to hand wash after eating. True story! I'm not joking at all.
We used our Crate and Barrel plates and silverware instead of our Wedgewood over the holidays because it matches better with the flowers. We have red and white color theme in our decorations.
The Wedgewood set will be used around Thanksgiving now, plus I now suggest my husband to Not handwash anything anymore. Everything goes into the dishwasher. Simplify our life.
Amen. I detest paying good money for something that you feel you cannot use.
And those hand towels hanging by the bathroom sink with our initials on them that both my mom and my wife said I was never supposed to touch....now I use the heck out of them. Those are MY initials dammit.
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workingovertime wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:20 pm
juliewongferra wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:28 am
workingovertime wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:35 pm Curious to see some examples. No judgement!

Some of mine:
-Haven't replaced car battery for few months so instead of having keyless entry/start, now I have to take out manual key from keyfob and insert keyfob that happens to be under the center console every time. A real hassle when you have full hands or raining
-Haven't replaced bedroom light bulb that's been out for a while now. Now instead, I just use this "annoying" yellow light that I despise instead of my preferred white light
Back when I was at school, I lived off campus, but brushed my teeth in the public restroom on campus to save my water bill. In the morning, if I could manage, I would hold off on "doing my business" at home until I got to campus to save on toilet paper also. (I had a few close calls!)

cheers!
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Same but only for going No 1 @ bathroom and unless of course it is anything too urgent or to the point where it would be bad for health. If I'm going to a grocery store down the road for example, why use my own water at home when I could just use it there? No big deal. Little sacrifice (and of course little gain) but why not?

I agree, little sacrifice and little gain. But I am convinced that I will never get the big one-time gain (lottery, inheritance, big six-figure job), and am focused on all the little gains over time, which eventually add to a big gain. I am training my mindset to identify the opportunities!

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Nicolas wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:23 pm I used to drive a car where the floor began to rust out and a hole developed, you could see the road.
We had a truck one time with the same problem, the floor was rusted out. We kept it, not because we were being frugal, but because we couldn't afford to buy another one. :happy
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I had a roommate for many years even though I could afford to live by myself. My roommates were great, but if it weren't for the several hundred dollars a month savings I would have been living alone.
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Stinky wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:47 am I love my Brooks walking shoes, and average over 20,000 steps per day in them (including treadmill time in the morning).

After a few months, it seems like the foam in one particular spot in the back of the right shoe wears through, and a hard piece of plastic pokes through and irritates my ankle.

I find that if I tape a small piece of cotton ball over the piece of plastic, I can make the shoes last about 2 months longer and defer the $120 cost of replacing the shoes.

My wife says - "Just buy new shoes" - to which I respond - "I'm cheap".

There is a lacing technique to prevent this- it’s called a lace lock. It works great, it has saved me countless pair of running shoes over the years.
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Smorgasbord wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:35 pm I had a roommate for many years even though I could afford to live by myself. My roommates were great, but if it weren't for the several hundred dollars a month savings I would have been living alone.
Good strategy! What changed to make you not want roommates after all these years of savings?

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randomguy wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:07 am
Colorado13 wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:04 am I don't have an iPhone. My smart phone is 2 years old and works fine, but it certainly doesn't provide the functionality that an iPhone does, which is occasionally inconvenient.

Other than not running some iPhone specific app what are you missing? 2 year old android and iPhones aren’t exactly missing features.

These race to the bottom threads are useless. There will always be some people more extreme than you and willing to spend 100s of hours to save .50. Drinking cheap wine isn’t frugal. A frugal person drinks water. A really frugal person drinks rain water since tap water is so expensive. Why pay for something you get for free? Buying 1 ply toilet paper instead is f 2 ply isnt frugal. Frugal is making sure you you only need to go during work hours so you can use theirs for free.
Great question. It's most likely my severe lack of phone expertise at play, but my previous iPhone (from work, I changed jobs, so no longer have an iPhone) had talk to text for text messages and email, allowed me to say "Call Bob" and it would dial Bob, enabled me to push one button (not 5) to ask for the current temp, etc. This may be solvable by spending some time with a youngster. Maybe a 10 or 12 year old phone expert could help me out, but my Android phone doesn't seem as intuitive (despite the fact I've been an Android user for 15 years or however long Android has been available.)

I don't do 1 ply TP. I would just use twice as much, so no point. Plus I think of a new phone as a $500-$1000 expense and TP as a $10 expense. I'm happy spending $10. :-)
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stoptothink wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:38 am
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-Hang dry clothes. Increases lifespan of clothing dramatically and saves a little electricity. My wife does like some things dried (especially towels), but we about 1 load is put in the dryer every other week (for a family of 4).
I almost never use my clothes dryer. It's so dry where I live that I hang the clean clothes in the spare bedroom and in a few hours (or overnight) everything is dry, including the towels. I've been doing it for so long that it seems normal and not as an inconvenience. It seems more inconvenient to have the check the dryer frequently to ensure things don't get too dry/wrinkled.

Now the cold shower idea...not going to happen but yes, it's healthier for you/your skin. I'm guessing it saves on buying barrels of lotion.
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AhHa... this explains employees using several rolls of TP and PT per day along with several gallons of drinking water. They also like to use time on the clock for doing their personal online shopping and bill payments.

re."Frugal is making sure you you only need to go during work hours so you can use theirs for free."
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Colorado13 wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:42 pm
randomguy wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:07 am
Colorado13 wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:04 am I don't have an iPhone. My smart phone is 2 years old and works fine, but it certainly doesn't provide the functionality that an iPhone does, which is occasionally inconvenient.

Other than not running some iPhone specific app what are you missing? 2 year old android and iPhones aren’t exactly missing features.

These race to the bottom threads are useless. There will always be some people more extreme than you and willing to spend 100s of hours to save .50. Drinking cheap wine isn’t frugal. A frugal person drinks water. A really frugal person drinks rain water since tap water is so expensive. Why pay for something you get for free? Buying 1 ply toilet paper instead is f 2 ply isnt frugal. Frugal is making sure you you only need to go during work hours so you can use theirs for free.
Great question. It's most likely my severe lack of phone expertise at play, but my previous iPhone (from work, I changed jobs, so no longer have an iPhone) had talk to text for text messages and email, allowed me to say "Call Bob" and it would dial Bob, enabled me to push one button (not 5) to ask for the current temp, etc. This may be solvable by spending some time with a youngster. Maybe a 10 or 12 year old phone expert could help me out, but my Android phone doesn't seem as intuitive (despite the fact I've been an Android user for 15 years or however long Android has been available.)

I don't do 1 ply TP. I would just use twice as much, so no point. Plus I think of a new phone as a $500-$1000 expense and TP as a $10 expense. I'm happy spending $10. :-)
https://support.google.com/websearch/an ... roid&hl=en . See not frugal. Lazy😁 The tough part with android you get a lot more variation. Samsung and LG are similiar but just different enough to some tomes cause issues.

Phone is a 500 expense every 2-3 years. TP is a 10 dollar expense every month. Pretty close to the same net cost😂.

Pretty much all of my frugality savings are things like living 800 sq ft not 1200, driving a 25k to 200k miles, not doing drugs like caffenie and alcohol on a regular basis, and general life style choices. Things like 80 dollar jeans verus 20 just dont matter much over the 4 year lifespan were I am at. You want that last 2k/year of spending then yep it adds up.
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I guess it depends on your definition of "suffering". I'm pretty weak willed, and don't allow myself to suffer too much. I did notice some things I do on a regular basis that I consider frugal, and entail some minor suffering on my part.

We drive older cars. The newest is from 2011, the other is from 2003. So, we don't have all the newest features. The 2003 has a cassette deck, but I suffer because I threw out all my cassette tapes.

We travel frequently, and rarely fly first class or business, but sit in coach because I'm frugal. But, since I don't like to suffer too much, I buy the economy plus seats.

When we travel, I park in one of the lots farther from the airport (and cheaper), and ride one of the parking lot buses to and from the airport, instead of parking at the lot that costs twice as much per day, but I could just walk to the terminal.

Instead of having a maid, cook, housekeeper, grounds guy, gardener, lawn service, etc., we do it all ourselves. I occasionally try to convince myself that doing all this is exersize. Does self delusion count as suffering? Any psychiatrist BHers out there?
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workingovertime wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:35 pm Curious to see some examples. No judgement!

Some of mine:
-Haven't replaced car battery for few months so instead of having keyless entry/start, now I have to take out manual key from keyfob and insert keyfob that happens to be under the center console every time. A real hassle when you have full hands or raining
-Haven't replaced bedroom light bulb that's been out for a while now. Now instead, I just use this "annoying" yellow light that I despise instead of my preferred white light
have not read this whole thread, but running an old battery in any vehicle is hard on the charging system and can actually damage other parts of your charging system. Not good. If I were to save a buck, it wouldn't be there. YMMV

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bungalow10 wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:40 pm
Stinky wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:47 am I love my Brooks walking shoes, and average over 20,000 steps per day in them (including treadmill time in the morning).

After a few months, it seems like the foam in one particular spot in the back of the right shoe wears through, and a hard piece of plastic pokes through and irritates my ankle.

I find that if I tape a small piece of cotton ball over the piece of plastic, I can make the shoes last about 2 months longer and defer the $120 cost of replacing the shoes.

My wife says - "Just buy new shoes" - to which I respond - "I'm cheap".

There is a lacing technique to prevent this- it’s called a lace lock. It works great, it has saved me countless pair of running shoes over the years.
Bungalow10 -
Thanks so much for the tip. I had never heard of lace lock before. I will definitely start using it.

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For the most part I am willing to pay for convenience. Life presents enough challenges without having a load of preventable daily frustrations on top of it.

The only recent example I can think of is that I kept using a pair of running shoes for far too long before getting a new pair for Christmas from my wife.

The only other possible example I can think of is that I tend to be a late adopter of a lot of the technology and automation that supposedly makes one's life easier. My reluctance is partly money-related but also due to disinterest and a skepticism that these things will really add value in my life.
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The car stories reminded me of some things I will let go because they cost too much to fix on a car that is getting on in years.

The light on the passenger-side visor mirror died. $120 to fix. Nah, my mother could wait to touch up her make up.

The hinge on the trunk started getting funky and the trunk lid would suddenly drop -- sometimes while I was loading or unloading. It sometimes came down hard on my shoulders and once practially broke my nose. Rather than pricing a fix, I stowed a broom stick in the trunk to prop the lid up as needed. Went on a 2-month round-the-country drive using that broom stick each day as I loaded and unloaded the trunk.
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I mow my own lawn, rake my own leaves (90 bags this year), and shovel my own driveway. Almost everyone on my street has lawn/snow service.
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We don't run the heat or air conditioning unless it is 10 degrees away from our "comfort" spot. This saves on the electricity bill.

We have a drip system to save on water (and water bills). We rarely wash the cars (but clean the windows).

We make our own compost by using yard clippings and kitchen scraps rather than buy compost. We don't hire a gardener either.

But these are environmental choices for us as well as financial.
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Constantly sampling house brands to save money, and then needing to drink bad-tasting coffee for a month in order not to waste it.
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I download podcasts etc to my mp3 player or to my phone (via wi-fi) to reduce the use of data on my smartphone. I listen to them when traveling to work or when biking.
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I wish people would also post the annual savings they estimate from each one of these habits.

A CR2032 Lithium battery costs $0.50 and needs to be replaced approximately every 2.5 years, so that’s a whopping savings of $0.20 per year.

I do not suffer any everyday conveniences if I can help it. I think paying for the little things is worth it since it makes your quality of life better and they are cheap to deal with compared to the areas where you can majorly save (mutual funds, use of 401k + Roth IRA, house, cars.)
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quantAndHold wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:37 am
squirm wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:23 am all sorts of things, for example, haven't changed the oil on our car yet, it's now -2000 miles since it's due...oh well, time is tight...i'll get to it when i can. other priorities.
That’s not frugal. Frugal is not cheap for cheap’s sake. It implies being prudent with resources. Potentially shortening the life of your car because you were too cheap or lazy to get a recommended oil change isn’t frugal. It’s penny wise and pound foolish.
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squirm wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:23 am all sorts of things, for example, haven't changed the oil on our car yet, it's now -2000 miles since it's due...oh well, time is tight...i'll get to it when i can. other priorities.
I hope I am not buying your car.
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finite_difference wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:53 pm I wish people would also post the annual savings they estimate from each one of these habits.

A CR2032 Lithium battery costs $0.50 and needs to be replaced approximately every 2.5 years, so that’s a whopping savings of $0.20 per year.

I do not suffer any everyday conveniences if I can help it. I think paying for the little things is worth it since it makes your quality of life better and they are cheap to deal with compared to the areas where you can majorly save (mutual funds, use of 401k + Roth IRA, house, cars.)
I buy horse poop compost from local equestrian place for just $2.00 a bag. So I might save about $20-$40 a year on these frugal habits. I think these actions are really better for the environment from my point of view and not just to save money.
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wander wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:37 pm
squirm wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:23 am all sorts of things, for example, haven't changed the oil on our car yet, it's now -2000 miles since it's due...oh well, time is tight...i'll get to it when i can. other priorities.
I hope I am not buying your car.
It’s okay. When you ask to see the maintenance records, he won’t be able to provide them.
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smitcat wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:28 am
Nicolas wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:23 pm
multiham wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:16 pm
Nicolas wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:01 pm I drove a 1996 Corolla into the ground. I bought it from my daughter in 2008 for $3K. It was overpriced but it was my daughter so I didn’t care.

Eventually the gas tank sprung a leak but it was at the top so if I didn’t fill the tank all the way it wouldn’t slosh out. Then the volume knob fell off the radio so I used my leatherman to adjust it after that.

Then the electric door locks went haywire, the locks continually locked and unlocked themselves with no way to control them. So I pulled out the fuse for the door locks and left it out. I used my key and fingers to lock and unlock after that, like in the old days. But I found out the windows shared the same fuse as the door locks so now my windows wouldn’t go up or down anymore. I left them up. It was good the AC still worked so in the summer I was okay.

I drove it like that until one of the fuel injectors failed. The estimated repair was $300 so I junked it last year.
I truly hope that there was sarcasm in this post. No one should ever drive a car or run any equipment with a leak in the gas tank. I'm not worried about you since you knew about it. I'm worried about others who may be impacted by the lack of safety with your car. Everything else you posted are just conveniences.
No sarcasm, everything I wrote happened. I never considered the safety hazard, perhaps I should’ve. I was the only driver of this car.

I used to drive a car where the floor began to rust out and a hole developed, you could see the road. If I drove through a puddle it would sometimes splash up at me. It was a 1970 Nova.
Yes of course - what could possibly go wrong?
Driving a car with a known gas leak and you cannot always rely on getting out the doors along with windows that do not go up or down.
No safety issues here.
Yeah. Seriously, Nicolas, maybe run these things past someone more knowledgeable in the future. You were not only putting yourself at risk, but you were endangering others.
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Nicolas wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:23 pm No sarcasm, everything I wrote happened. I never considered the safety hazard, perhaps I should’ve. I was the only driver of this car.

I used to drive a car where the floor began to rust out and a hole developed, you could see the road. If I drove through a puddle it would sometimes splash up at me. It was a 1970 Nova.
That's not good for your health as smoke can get underneath of the car to you through the hole at traffic stops.
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