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Recommend dish drainer (rack)

Post by AAA » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:07 pm

As seems to happen more often these days, it's hard to find simple items that previously were readily available. Case in point: a dish drainer (or dish rack). Ours has been rusting for a while now, which seems to be a common complaint in reviews of other ones that I've read. Also, most of them seem to be rather small and come with less than sterling reviews. So I was wondering if anyone has bought one recently that they would recommend. Thanks.

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Post by onourway » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:20 pm

We were recommended this model when we remodeled our kitchen 8 years or so ago. I would have never thought twice about it, but it’s been great. Water drains into the sink. It’s never rusted. Holds lots of stuff.

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Post by runner3081 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:43 pm

We bought ours at Walmart. The local $1.00 store also has them.

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Post by bob60014 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:17 pm

runner3081 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:43 pm
We bought ours at Walmart. The local $1.00 store also has them.
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Post by livesoft » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:25 pm

If I have to hand wash any dishes, then I simply put them in the dishwasher to drain and dry.
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Post by bryansmile » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:35 pm

livesoft wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:25 pm
If I have to hand wash any dishes, then I simply put them in the dishwasher to drain and dry.
This.

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Re: Recommend dish drainer (rack)

Post by AAA » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:24 pm

runner3081 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:43 pm
We bought ours at Walmart. The local $1.00 store also has them.
I'm asking about a quality dish rack and you're recommending the dollar store???

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Post by AAA » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:25 pm

livesoft wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:25 pm
If I have to hand wash any dishes, then I simply put them in the dishwasher to drain and dry.
Ha. I never thought of that.

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Post by arsenalfan » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:32 pm

https://www.amazon.com/simplehuman-Kitc ... B005Q3VXDY

5 years and going strong. The innards are rusting a little at year 5, but it is great/no impact on function.

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Post by tooluser » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:38 pm

I like the plastic-coated wire ones because they have wider gaps that tend to be more versatile. No nooks and crannies to collect dirt or grow things when wet. They are light weight. They come in a small and large size. They are cheap. If you get a black one it will last many years and always look good, no rust.
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Post by Iorek » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:42 pm

One member of the house strongly prefers dish pads (not sure what they are really called, but basically very large thin sponges which you can use in place of dish drainers). They are more aesthetically appealing to some and easier to store when not in use.

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Re: Recommend dish drainer (rack)

Post by runner3081 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:48 pm

AAA wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:24 pm
runner3081 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:43 pm
We bought ours at Walmart. The local $1.00 store also has them.
I'm asking about a quality dish rack and you're recommending the dollar store???
Sorry, I didn't see anything about wanting recommendations for a high-end dish rack in your post. In fact, your question: "So I was wondering if anyone has bought one recently that they would recommend"

I recommend our Walmart $7.99 rack or one from the Dollar Store, yes. Has a tray on the bottom, dishes seem to dry in it, no issues at all. We actually hand wash all dishes and don't use the dishwasher, so it is always full. We picked up a smaller second one from the dollar store two weeks ago. No issues with that either.

It is a stationary object that you put wet stuff in. Back to your original question. Yes, I would recommend a cheap one.

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Post by onourway » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:03 pm

Yes, the $80 one I suggested is expensive, but given that it’s something we use multiple times every day, appears that it will last at least 20 years without giving any trouble and looks good and is pleasing to use, I think I can afford that $4/year. 8-)

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Post by Windylotus » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:53 am

AAA wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:07 pm
As seems to happen more often these days, it's hard to find simple items that previously were readily available. Case in point: a dish drainer (or dish rack). Ours has been rusting for a while now, which seems to be a common complaint in reviews of other ones that I've read. Also, most of them seem to be rather small and come with less than sterling reviews. So I was wondering if anyone has bought one recently that they would recommend. Thanks.
We purchased a full size, Kitchen Aid brand drying rack from Costco for about $25. The same model is on Amazon for $54. We have been very happy with it after four years. Good luck

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Post by lindab » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:15 am

I heartily agree with arsenalfan's recommendation: https://www.amazon.com/simplehuman-Kitc ... B005Q3VXDY.

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Post by Chip » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:15 am

I agree with your assessment of the poor quality of what's available. We prefer a rack that fits in one side of our double sink. The only thing I can find that will fit is a cheap one from Rubbermaid. They typically start showing rust in 3-4 years. I would gladly pay the price of the linked Rohan rack if I could find a stainless steel model that would fit in my sink.

I've resigned myself to buying a new Rubbermaid rack every few years. Seems like a waste.

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Post by climber2020 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:39 am

arsenalfan wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:32 pm
https://www.amazon.com/simplehuman-Kitc ... B005Q3VXDY

5 years and going strong. The innards are rusting a little at year 5, but it is great/no impact on function.
I owned this one briefly until it started rusting at around the 6 month mark. The rust appearance probably varies depending on the specific rack you end up with.

The best dish rack I've found is a white plastic one sold at IKEA, but looking at their website just now I don't think it's made anymore.

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Post by michaeljc70 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:44 am

I don't like clutter on my counters. Most stuff goes in the dishwasher. I don't put big pots, sharp knives, etc. in the dishwasher and just put them on kitchen towels on the counter to dry. It may not dry quite as fast as in a rack, but I can lay out as many towels as I need depending on how much I have. As noted, a lot of things don't seem to fit in dish racks properly anyway.

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Post by bob60014 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:56 am

AAA wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:24 pm
runner3081 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:43 pm
We bought ours at Walmart. The local $1.00 store also has them.
I'm asking about a quality dish rack and you're recommending the dollar store???
Yes, it's only out for 15 minutes a day , no one sees it and if it breaks...it breaks. :)

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Post by 3-20Characters » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:09 am

We’ve had the cheap, white plastic one from ikea for 5 years and it’s still going strong. Use it several time per day as I never use the dishwasher.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxNjAw/ ... B/$_35.JPG

I don’t know why you’d want metal for something involving water—it’s going to rust sooner or later no matter how bulletproof they make it. But you can find lots of them. Some for big bucks. For me, it’s money wasted.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ikea+kitchen+ ... &ia=images

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climber2020 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:39 am

The best dish rack I've found is a white plastic one sold at IKEA, but looking at their website just now I don't think it's made anymore.
If the one linked above is the one you’re talking about, I saw it in the store recently. Their online catalog isn’t always accurate. Here’s a better pic.

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/images/produ ... 935_S4.JPG

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Post by lthenderson » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:53 am

We replaced our old and permanently stained plastic one a couple months back with this one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TYTINWK

It has worked well thus far and I liked its design.

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Post by mak1277 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:02 am

Been using the same cheap white plastic one for a decade without issue or complaint. I don't know what brand or model it is, but I'm sure it was $10 or less at Target or Wal-mart. This seems like an object whose acquisition doesn't need to be over-thought or optimized.

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Post by RickBoglehead » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:42 am

I can't conceive of spending $80 on a dishrack. A cheap one lasts 10 years. Surprised that Bogleheads would spend that kind of money on a dishrack.

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Post by onourway » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:52 am

RickBoglehead wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:42 am
I can't conceive of spending $80 on a dishrack. A cheap one lasts 10 years. Surprised that Bogleheads would spend that kind of money on a dishrack.
In our case we have an open-floor plan small home. The kitchen is the focal point of the entire house. It's where we spend 75% of our non-sleeping time. It's where we entertain. We have a moderately high-end renovation and the dishrack is on the countertop. It's part of the overall aesthetic. A plastic rubbermaid rack would look incredibly out of place.

$80 on a dishrack that will last 20 years is exactly the kind of thing that Bogleheads should *not* be focusing on. That's what a crummy dinner out for a family of 5 costs.

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onourway wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:52 am
$80 on a dishrack that will last 20 years is exactly the kind of thing that Bogleheads should *not* be focusing on. That's what a crummy dinner out for a family of 5 costs.
I don't think it's reasonable to expect it to last 20 years, though, especially since the OP specified dislike of rust and it's going to rust. More like 5, I'd bet. It's pretty much on a par with the Dollar Store stuff that way, and it probably won't even stay rustproof as long as covered wire, even though nobody likes covered wire (I use it because I keep my drainer in one of the double sinks and nothing else fits).

I agree with your underlying point that if aesthetics matter to you you can't really quantify the benefit; you absolutely could consider a kitchen implement that's visible all the time to be an important object d'art and find it worthwhile to get some Design Within Reach version that probably costs more than $80. But for this particular implement, it doesn't make sense to do so for hardiness, because you're really not likely to get more by paying above the basic level.

The dish drainer reviews on the Wirecutter are interesting in that they admit that there are problems with all of them. Maybe somebody needs to create a luxury dish drainer that *does* last for 20 years and is a work of art.

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Post by onourway » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:25 am

fposte wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:23 am

I don't think it's reasonable to expect it to last 20 years, though, especially since the OP specified dislike of rust and it's going to rust. More like 5, I'd bet. It's pretty much on a par with the Dollar Store stuff that way, and it probably won't even stay rustproof as long as covered wire, even though nobody likes covered wire (I use it because I keep my drainer in one of the double sinks and nothing else fits).

I agree with your underlying point that if aesthetics matter to you you can't really quantify the benefit; you absolutely could consider a kitchen implement that's visible all the time to be an important object d'art and find it worthwhile to get some Design Within Reach version that probably costs more than $80. But for this particular implement, it doesn't make sense to do so for hardiness, because you're really not likely to get more by paying above the basic level.

The dish drainer reviews on the Wirecutter are interesting in that they admit that there are problems with all of them. Maybe somebody needs to create a luxury dish drainer that *does* last for 20 years and is a work of art.
As I stated in my original post, we've had that exact model for 8 years and there is zero sign of rust. There is no reason it won't last 20 years.

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Post by fposte » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:33 am

onourway wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:25 am

As I stated in my original post, we've had that exact model for 8 years and there is zero sign of rust. There is no reason it won't last 20 years.
And two other people have reported the same model rusts, so you're outnumbered. I wouldn't buy it expecting it not to rust. If you love it enough that you'd buy it even if it does rust, that's fine.

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Post by AAA » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:35 am

mak1277 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:02 am
Been using the same cheap white plastic one for a decade without issue or complaint. I don't know what brand or model it is, but I'm sure it was $10 or less at Target or Wal-mart. This seems like an object whose acquisition doesn't need to be over-thought or optimized.
I wouldn't mind one of those but the ones I've seen in stores recently seem smaller than they used to be.

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Post by AAA » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:37 am

runner3081 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:48 pm
Sorry, I didn't see anything about wanting recommendations for a high-end dish rack in your post. In fact, your question: "So I was wondering if anyone has bought one recently that they would recommend"
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I'm not necessarily looking for high-end, just something that's not too small and that won't rust right away.

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Post by bryansmile » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:38 am

I believe in multi-purposing as much as I can, so I use the dishwasher as drying racks when it's not in use. And, no rust, an important feature the manufacturer had in mind when designing it.

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Post by onourway » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:47 am

fposte wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:33 am
onourway wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:25 am

As I stated in my original post, we've had that exact model for 8 years and there is zero sign of rust. There is no reason it won't last 20 years.
And two other people have reported the same model rusts, so you're outnumbered. I wouldn't buy it expecting it not to rust. If you love it enough that you'd buy it even if it does rust, that's fine.
I think you are mistaken. Nobody has reported that model rusting here in this thread.

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Post by 3-20Characters » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:56 am

Someone will have to market a smart dish drainer before I spend over $10. :twisted:

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Post by fposte » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:07 am

onourway wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:47 am
fposte wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:33 am
onourway wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:25 am

As I stated in my original post, we've had that exact model for 8 years and there is zero sign of rust. There is no reason it won't last 20 years.
And two other people have reported the same model rusts, so you're outnumbered. I wouldn't buy it expecting it not to rust. If you love it enough that you'd buy it even if it does rust, that's fine.
I think you are mistaken. Nobody has reported that model rusting here in this thread.
You are correct! I had thought yours was one of the links to the SimpleHuman $80 dish drainer rather than another one. I guess the upshot is that if you're going to spend $80 for a dish drainer in hope of durability, the Rohan may be a better bet than the SimpleHuman.

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Someone will have to market a smart dish drainer before I spend over $10. :twisted:

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Post by AAA » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:58 am

After much consideration due this weighty topic :wink: , I've ordered this item from Bed Bath and Beyond (with a 20% off coupon that was useable online) as the idea of using the dishwasher as a drainer was not favorably received by my spouse: https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/ ... sh-drainer

My reasoning:
o all nine reviews are 5 star
o size is comparable to what we have now
o made of aluminum so won't rust

As the grey color matches our cabinets, it seemed like an optimum choice. And in deference to 3-20Characters's above post, it has what it calls a DrySmart Mat, whatever that is.

Thanks all for the the discussion.

EDIT: SEE THE FOLLOWING POST
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Post by AAA » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:18 am

Well, we received the drainer and while it appears to be well made we decided to return it for the following reasons:

o it doesn't hold much; would be fine for a small amount of dishes
o something I didn't notice earlier - it doesn't have posts for hanging glasses, so these have to take up space elsewhere
o the tray underneath doesn't have an outlet to drain into the sink; water just accumulates there

Back to square one. Our current Rubbermaid drainer has been fine but is rusting and the newer ones are smaller.

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Post by 3-20Characters » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:55 am

AAA wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:18 am

o the tray underneath doesn't have an outlet to drain into the sink; water just accumulates there
I noticed this in the pic and I think of that as a feature that I like. You can pile dishes in and then move the drainboard to a more convenient spot on counter. When dishes are dry and ready to reload, just empty out any water left in tray into sink. I realize you probably don’t like this approach but just saying.

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I noticed this in the pic and I think of that as a feature that I like. You can pile dishes in and then move the drainboard to a more convenient spot on counter. When dishes are dry and ready to reload, just empty out any water left in tray into sink. I realize you probably don’t like this approach but just saying.
Yes, this is a feature they show on the packaging, but I think it's of limited utility. A thick kitchen towel would do the same if not better job.

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Post by leeks » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:15 pm

fposte wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:23 am
The dish drainer reviews on the Wirecutter are interesting in that they admit that there are problems with all of them. Maybe somebody needs to create a luxury dish drainer that *does* last for 20 years and is a work of art.
I think the luxury option is that behind the fancy showplace kitchen there is a less-visible butler's kitchen that would contain utilitarian items like dish racks. No one has space for that in my neighborhood though.

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Post by 3-20Characters » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:08 pm

AAA wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:16 pm
3-20Characters wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:55 am
I noticed this in the pic and I think of that as a feature that I like. You can pile dishes in and then move the drainboard to a more convenient spot on counter. When dishes are dry and ready to reload, just empty out any water left in tray into sink. I realize you probably don’t like this approach but just saying.
Yes, this is a feature they show on the packaging, but I think it's of limited utility. A thick kitchen towel would do the same if not better job.
I have cheap plastic one like this from Ikea and I like the “non-draining” tray/pan. The whole combo cost less than $10 so I don’t mind foregoing the the towel option.

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Post by Yooper » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:43 am

Just for what it's worth, we got this 5 years ago and it's still going strong (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000I ... UTF8&psc=1). Used 3 or more times per day, handles heavy pots/pans without a problem. No rust (which shouldn't happen unless the rubberized coating gets cut/cracked). It's not fancy, but it is a workhorse. We did get the drainboard for underneath as well.

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Re: Recommend dish drainer (rack)

Post by TomatoTomahto » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:02 am

onourway wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:20 pm
We were recommended this model when we remodeled our kitchen 8 years or so ago. I would have never thought twice about it, but it’s been great. Water drains into the sink. It’s never rusted. Holds lots of stuff.
Thank you for this recommendation. Mine arrived a few days ago. I have no idea if it will rust, just as I have no idea if my knees will hold up, but it drains well and looks good in my kitchen.

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