Garage door openers - please compare Chamberlain B970, B980, B1381?

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Garage door openers - please compare Chamberlain B970, B980, B1381?

Post by jgy2001 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:48 pm

To replace my 30+ yrs old chain drive Genie 450, I am shopping for the Chamberlain 1.25HP belt drive replacement.

First I found the Chamberlain B970, but the review on programming the unit is horrible. It require painful blinking LED in different frequency and lockout 30 minutes when push wrong button. Also require paid annual subscriptions.

Then, the Chamberlain B980. When I was ready to order it, all disappeared from market everywhere. Only eBay third parties selling at far below factory list $348. Not available from factory web site. I assume this model is gone?

Then, everybody are listing another new Chamberlain B1381 at $338, "call CORNER TO CORNER LIGHTING™ LED" WI-FI Garage Door Opener. No actual buyer review, except a few fake reviews.

Can some body give me comparison to B970, B980 and B1381?

What give? Can somebody give me a clue what's going on?

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Re: Garage door openers - please compare Chamberlain B970, B980, B1381?

Post by FinanceGeek » Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:54 pm

Welcome to the forum. In general, we are probably not the best forum to discuss detailed reviews of consumer products. You might check out Amazon reviews of the openers you're considering. Or these sites:
https://www.consumersearch.com/garage-door-openers
https://bestreviews.com/best-garage-door-openers
https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best- ... ontroller/

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Re: Garage door openers - please compare Chamberlain B970, B980, B1381?

Post by Housedoc » Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:57 pm

I have installed 4 of these in the last year. Excellent

Genie SilentMax 750 3/4 HP Belt Drive Garage Door Opener
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Genie-Silen ... /206934068

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Re: Garage door openers - please compare Chamberlain B970, B980, B1381?

Post by jgy2001 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:51 pm

I need double door garage door openers, this 3/4 HP is likely under power.

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Post by Chip » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:39 am

jgy2001 wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:51 pm
I need double door garage door openers, this 3/4 HP is likely under power.
This is a common misconception. Double doors don't need more than a 1/2 HP opener. What they DO need is to be balanced correctly with properly sized springs with tracks and hardware in good repair.

My double door weighs 550 lbs. and is easily opened with the cheapest 1/2 HP opener I could buy at Home Depot.

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Post by Housedoc » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:38 am

If you have spring adjusted and can open with normal arm strength, 3/4 hp plenty.

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Post by z91 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:17 am

You don't need 1.25HP. The springs are/should be doing all of the lifting work. The opener is just there to move it. Otherwise your springs are not installed correctly IMO.

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Post by jgy2001 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:46 pm

My 30+ yrs old chain drive Genie 450, 3/4HP works well, except its noisy and the remote control intermittently failed.
I have a double door Aluminum skin relative light garage door below the bedrooms of my house. I want to make sure the new garage door opener is QUIET and last 10+ years.
I may not know I need the 1.25HP garage door opener. But the price difference between the 1HP to 1.25HP to 2HP opener is minimal. I want this installation to last, so why not go for the 1.25HP?

So far, the biggest difference is the WiFi connectivity, which I definitely want and quietness, that means a NO on Chamberlain B970, with child like programming design.

In fact, I was sold on the Genie MaxForce model 4063 2HP, belt drive, listed in Home depot sales floor comparison chart as the QUIETEST unit.
But, nowhere I can witness the real actual unit in action. No online reviews or on sale anywhere else.

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Post by dsmclone » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:29 am

I bought a chamberlin B750 about 6 months ago and I couldn't be happier. Our garage is below our bedroom and the old opener was SO LOUD. With this one my wife can open the garage door and I don't even hear it. It also allow you to open it remotely and also alert you if it's been open for a certain length of time.

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Post by Sandtrap » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:34 am

Just built a new shop building.
Trying out the Liftmaster 8500 "jack shaft" garage door opener.
No center track. Mounts directly to main shaft.
A bit $$$$$$.
Hope it works well.

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Post by Sandtrap » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:36 am

Chip wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:39 am
jgy2001 wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:51 pm
I need double door garage door openers, this 3/4 HP is likely under power.
This is a common misconception. Double doors don't need more than a 1/2 HP opener. What they DO need is to be balanced correctly with properly sized springs with tracks and hardware in good repair.

My double door weighs 550 lbs. and is easily opened with the cheapest 1/2 HP opener I could buy at Home Depot.
+1
My son and I recently adjusted spring tension on both of my garage doors (main garage). Much easier on the existing openers.

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Post by Smoke » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:49 am

2 months ago my 25 yr old Genie died, so I replace it with a Genie Machforce 2 hp from Home Depot. Screw Drive.
Double Doors 40 yrs old Steel. Swing out door, not roll up.

This unit is so quiet I have to look half the time to actually SEE if the door is working or not.
And the fobs work from at least 250 ft away... the length of my driveway.

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Post by RickBoglehead » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:01 am

FinanceGeek wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:54 pm
Welcome to the forum. In general, we are probably not the best forum to discuss detailed reviews of consumer products. You might check out Amazon reviews of the openers you're considering. Or these sites:
https://www.consumersearch.com/garage-door-openers
https://bestreviews.com/best-garage-door-openers
https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best- ... ontroller/
This ^^^

It often surprises me where people ask questions on the internet, many times without doing simple Google searches first.

I come here for Financial advice. I go to a truck forum for truck advice, a computer forum for computer advice, a beer brewing forum for beer brewing advice, a plumbing forum for plumbing advice...

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Re: Garage door openers - please compare Chamberlain B970, B980, B1381?

Post by jgy2001 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:48 pm

dsmclone, only Chamberlain direct, otherwise, I cannot find anywhere else selling this B750?
For $229 + shipping, you can get 1.25HP for $20 more.

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Post by dsmclone » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:24 pm

jgy2001 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:48 pm
dsmclone, only Chamberlain direct, otherwise, I cannot find anywhere else selling this B750?
For $229 + shipping, you can get 1.25HP for $20 more.
If I was you, I'd go with the B970. 3/4 horsepower would probably be fine but you also get the battery backup. What's another $30 when it will last 15+ years?

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Post by jgy2001 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:32 pm

smoke, please tell me more about your Genie MachForce 2 hp from Home Depot?
Can your unit connect to home WiFi to show the door is open or close? Can you control the closing of the door?

I just worry with tons of complaints on Genie Garage Doors in Consumer Affairs
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/genie.html

I went to local Genie garage door opener authorized dealer in Santa Clara county, they do NOT have anything Genie in their showroom. In fact, they never even heard of the Genie MachForce 2HP garage door opener.

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Post by delconte » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:42 pm

Another vote for the LiftMaster 8500. Recently converted all of my doors to them. Way cleaner and more functional not having a center track.
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Post by Smoke » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:26 pm

jgy2001 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:32 pm
smoke, please tell me more about your Genie MachForce 2 hp from Home Depot?
Can your unit connect to home WiFi to show the door is open or close? Can you control the closing of the door?

I just worry with tons of complaints on Genie Garage Doors in Consumer Affairs
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/genie.html

I went to local Genie garage door opener authorized dealer in Santa Clara county, they do NOT have anything Genie in their showroom. In fact, they never even heard of the Genie MachForce 2HP garage door opener.
It does have a"Smart garage system" Smart device control with home automation inside.
Aladdin connect. Home link and car2u
Backup battery compatible.
I don't use any of these features, I just use the small fobs and the wall button. Wall button also has another button to turn on the lights in the unit without opening the door, I consider that a plus. It will also turn off the lights, even after opening the door instead of it timing out to turn them off.

Genie web site should answer any other questions about the unit, or call customer service for info.

I really like the unit so far, exceptionally quiet, in fact the sound of the Door itself moving in the metal guides makes more noise than this unit.
There are other features, like speed control to open or close faster, I just use the factory set speed, I am in no hurry.
If you are familiar with the old style method of "Stops" on an older unit (sort of a toggle stop limit switch on the unit) forget about those, this unit you set the stops yourself via programming on the unit itself.
I had to call customer service to walk me thru it, they were very helpful.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Genie-MachF ... /304603823

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Post by FlyAF » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:09 pm

Another recommendation that you take this opportunity to convert to a jack shaft opener. LiftMaster 8500 is the most common.

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Post by BluesH » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:33 pm

FlyAF wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:09 pm
Another recommendation that you take this opportunity to convert to a jack shaft opener. LiftMaster 8500 is the most common.
I'll third (or fourth) that recommendation. Got one installed about 5 years ago, and I love it. No screw, track, or belt mechanism. Tucked off to the side, attached to the torsion spring bar. And it has battery backup - operates during power outages. Highly recommended.

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Post by andypanda » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:44 pm

"Another recommendation that you take this opportunity to convert to a jack shaft opener. LiftMaster 8500 is the most common."

I installed an 8500 myself 3 years ago and it's been great. The installation was fairly straightforward considering I was 65 and had never even owned a garage before.

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Post by busdriver » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:07 am

I too have a Liftmaster 8500 at my 2nd home. Very happy. If my 20 year old Genie chain drive at my main home ever gives up, I'll replace it with a Liftmaster 8500 in a heartbeat.

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Post by Damulag » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:57 pm

Another vote for the LiftMaster 8500. Installed one in our previous home and loved it. The reason for looking at it was there was a load beam that only allowed for a shorter track thus not opening the door completely. The 8500 solved that problem. My only complaint was that the wires for the sensors are hair thin and hard to strip without breaking them, took several tries for each of them.

The new home has a very loud opener and I might just change it out for an 8500.

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Post by jgy2001 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:33 pm

Sorry unable to accept all you Liftmaster fans recommendations.
Well, since we already have previous working center control Genie opener mounting frame and wiring, we are not going to replace this well made working mounting frame.

Another elegant design by Liftemaster we are cursing at EVERYDAY. that's Liftmaster Elite Series 3/4 HP Heavy Duty garage door openers.
When the garage openers are activated, the two lights turn on, then, all incoming remote control signals are BLOCKED.
The installers told us so (every homes in our neighborhood). Genius at the Genie team design something that have the light bulbs interfere and block with the remote control receivers, until the lights time out. Good Grief, what kind of freshman designers produce this kind of products. [OT comment removed by admin LadyGeek]

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Post by RootSki » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:19 am

I recently put in a new Chamberlin C450 (1/2hp equivalent) with WiFi. I paid $161 for the unit plus another $100 for a local guy to install it.

Great investment, as I have a bad habit of not closing the door when I leave.

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