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Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by Momus » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:19 pm

I'm thinking of replacing my carpet to vinyl or tile flooring. How do I go about doing this cheaply?

Lowe's or HD? Is this something I can DIY in 1-2 days project? They charge like $2/sqft just to install. I have 0 experience with this.

What's the best flooring that last a long time? More specific recommendation is good. Too many darn selections (; ̄Д ̄)

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by Sandtrap » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:27 pm

1. Extent of flooring project?

1 story single level home 3 bdrm 2 bath, on concrete slab?

2 story entire home, living room downstairs, bedrooms upstairs, stairway, etc?

3. what does the home have now? Carpet everywhere and what in the bathroom/kitchens?

4. How long do you intend to keep the home and live in it? (eventual upsize, downsize, flip, rent??)

5. How heavy is the use of the flooring in the home? (children, pets, retirees, seniors??)

6. How much do you have to spend on it? (best bang for buck, no price limit, budget??)

7. How much of the project do you care to do yourself due to skill level, budget, etc?

8. Is this part of a long term comprehensive "whole house" remodel/reno?

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by Alexa9 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:29 pm

Vinyl that looks like wood is popular now for the price and durability. They have brochures at Costco for installers. Otherwise I'd ask around at Home Depot / Lowe's and get some bids.

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by GerryL » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:56 pm

For my kitchen and attached back room I chose LVT (luxury vinyl tile) flooring from Armstrong(?)
Not the cheapest but attractive and durable. Mine looks like slate flooring but not as cold and hard as real stone.

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by Momus » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:15 am

Sandtrap wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:27 pm
1. Extent of flooring project?

1 story single level home 3 bdrm 2 bath, on concrete slab?

2 story entire home, living room downstairs, bedrooms upstairs, stairway, etc?

3. what does the home have now? Carpet everywhere and what in the bathroom/kitchens?

4. How long do you intend to keep the home and live in it? (eventual upsize, downsize, flip, rent??)

5. How heavy is the use of the flooring in the home? (children, pets, retirees, seniors??)

6. How much do you have to spend on it? (best bang for buck, no price limit, budget??)

7. How much of the project do you care to do yourself due to skill level, budget, etc?

8. Is this part of a long term comprehensive "whole house" remodel/reno?
Concrete slab, probably trying to replace about 500-600 sqft common area. Kitchen, family room, and some stairway (like 5-7 steps up).
House has carpet everywhere.
Going for rental purposes.
Some children + cats/dogs
Value/budget oriented. Need durability.
0 skill level but willing to learn/buy tools.
Yes, eventually all carpet flooring will be replaced. I am just trying to replace some worn off carpets.

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by Momus » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:17 am

Alexa9 wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:29 pm
Vinyl that looks like wood is popular now for the price and durability. They have brochures at Costco for installers. Otherwise I'd ask around at Home Depot / Lowe's and get some bids.
Yelp for bids and buy the material myself?

House is built in 1979. I am not even sure the concrete is flat under the carpet. If it's not flat, I can't install vinyl flooring right?

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by Shortcut » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:30 am

look at HD/Lowes for the engineered vinyl plank flooring. Its DIY, the planks lock together [more forgiving than laminate] and they work with minor subfloor issues. You will need a jigsaw to cut them but they're not expensive. The tear out of our old carpet was almost more work than the install. Home Depot offers classes and ours was pretty helpful with questions.

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by heikejohn1 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:49 am

Lumber Liquidators!!
They have a huge selection of all kinds of floors, some super reasonable.
Installation is a flat rate, underlayment is extra.

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by pennywise » Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:13 am

For a rental property, don't follow my username :wink: . You don't want to put something down that's cheap in terms of durability because you may need to replace it quickly once renters use the house hard--and then it ends up being more expensive in the long run.

The vinyl plank flooring sounds like a good option. It's in use at my office in a very heavily used reception area and it seems to be bulletproof.

As for installation, if you have no experience whatsoever it might be worth it to find an installer and bite the bullet unless you have a lot of time/are very good at measuring and calculating/have a lot of patience/can afford to buy a substantial amount of extra material for wastage. Laying flooring isn't difficult but it does require some careful measuring to ensure it runs 'straight'; rooms are almost never perfectly square or floors perfectly flat so there's the need to be able to adjust to that and last but not least it's quite taxing physically to lay 500-600 SF of floor. There's a reason installers get paid pretty decent money-they earn it.

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by Sandtrap » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:29 am

1. Low and mid range rental: carpet. Consider it sacrificial. Plank and harder flooring will be gauged up from furniture. Warped from spills. Stone and tile, etc, will be stained.

2. Go to Home Depot, Lowes, etc. Price purchase and install, including tear out and disposal of existing carpet. Select medium grade padding. Feels softer and floors don't feel "cheap" when walked on. Compare prices, have it done, then rent "asap" to start an income stream "asap".

3. As a rental, every month vacant is a month's rent uncollected. Suggest get it done and rent it out vs saving smaller dollars by DIY.

Rental vs homeowner "point of view" can be 180 degrees apart when it comes to property preservation with you bearing all costs.

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by Bacchus01 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:33 am

Unless you have the skills, cheap carpet installed by HD will be cheaper than pretty much every other option.

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by vested1 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:48 am

For the OP:

We are fixing up a 2 bed 2 bath condo for sale, ripping out the carpet and placing vinyl plank flooring in all rooms. We are matching the recently installed flooring that was placed in the kitchen and master bath. I'm personally ripping out the carpet, replacing the toilets, painting the interior, and placing new baseboards.

We went with Home Depot for the flooring, installed. The condo is 980 sq ft, but new flooring is 697 sq ft, $1,514 for labor using their contractor. I already picked up the flooring to save on delivery. Replacing the existing carpet with cheap carpet would have been about half the price for labor and materials, but choosing vinyl plank will add about 15k to the sales price, over and above the option of placing new carpet per the realtor.

Home depot will send out a tech to measure your home for $50, which is deducted from the cost of the job if you use their labor, maybe even if you only buy the material, not sure. They measure with a laser and input the data on an Ipad, which creates a visual floor plan and exact sq footage, which will be given to you with the estimate in about a week. They also determine how many moldings and specialty pieces are needed and add those to the estimate. When you meet with a HD flooring specialist to go over the estimate you can add or delete items as needed. I eliminated about $1,200 from the original estimate by trimming unneeded items, such as carpet removal, furniture manipulation (condo is empty), linoleum removal in the bathroom, removing/re-installing existing toilets, and keeping the linoleum in the closed off laundry closet.

We have to change 2 toilets to 1.28 gal/flush to sell the condo (California requirement). HD wanted $269 labor for each toilet ($538 labor). HD will refuse to install the flooring without either removing the toilets themselves, or having you do it, because the flooring must run under the toilets for warranty and esthetic purposes.

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by renue74 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:00 am

LVT is the way to go for rentals. Don't skimp on the cheaper LVT because it's thinner and not as durable. Go mid-level.

An installer can do your project in 2 days or so. If you do it, it'll probably take a month of weekends.

If you go with carpet, we see it as having a life span of 1 - 2 tenants. At least with LVT, if it gets chipped, it's not as noticeable.

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by Momus » Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:29 am

renue74 wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:00 am
LVT is the way to go for rentals. Don't skimp on the cheaper LVT because it's thinner and not as durable. Go mid-level.

An installer can do your project in 2 days or so. If you do it, it'll probably take a month of weekends.

If you go with carpet, we see it as having a life span of 1 - 2 tenants. At least with LVT, if it gets chipped, it's not as noticeable.
Damn, a month? lol.
Vinyl run 1.69 to 2.99/sqft. Installation runs $2/sqft. 500 sqft costs $3k minimum. I need to cut on labor, maybe a cheap hourly handyman that knows how to install flooring -_-?

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by edge » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:13 am

Take more time learning

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by A440 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:50 am

Floor and Decor.
Look for deep discounts on close outs.
DIY install on luxury vinyl. Easy to do.
$80 for a recent bathroom we did.

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by lthenderson » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:22 am

Momus wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:19 pm
I'm thinking of replacing my carpet to vinyl or tile flooring.

What's the best flooring that last a long time?

Value/budget oriented. Need durability.
You aren't going to get durability and long lasting times out of vinyl, tile, or engineered wood products. You aren't going to buy something durable in these groups buying the cheapest products. By far the cheapest and most durable product for a rental situation is carpet. It is also the cheapest to hire out for install.

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by Momus » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:31 pm

lthenderson wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:22 am
Momus wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:19 pm
I'm thinking of replacing my carpet to vinyl or tile flooring.

What's the best flooring that last a long time?

Value/budget oriented. Need durability.
You aren't going to get durability and long lasting times out of vinyl, tile, or engineered wood products. You aren't going to buy something durable in these groups buying the cheapest products. By far the cheapest and most durable product for a rental situation is carpet. It is also the cheapest to hire out for install.
This must be a troll comment -_- carpet the most durable?

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by audioaxes » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:53 pm

if you are doing vinyl I'd consider jumping on youtube and determining if you think you can do the install yourself and save even more money. Its not too hard at all.
I find floor and decor cheaper that home depot and lowes in general. Check the clearance sections of all 3. See if you are near a home depot super store that has even more selection and larger clearance section. I also found some very good deals at smaller shops that advertise on craigslist/offer up. For example found some very nice looking 18"X36" ceramic tiles that could pass for marble for 90 cents/sqft.

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by lthenderson » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:43 am

Momus wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:31 pm
lthenderson wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:22 am
Momus wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:19 pm
I'm thinking of replacing my carpet to vinyl or tile flooring.

What's the best flooring that last a long time?

Value/budget oriented. Need durability.
You aren't going to get durability and long lasting times out of vinyl, tile, or engineered wood products. You aren't going to buy something durable in these groups buying the cheapest products. By far the cheapest and most durable product for a rental situation is carpet. It is also the cheapest to hire out for install.
This must be a troll comment -_- carpet the most durable?
No troll. A tight woven carpet will last sometimes through two or three tenants with nothing more than a steam cleaning in-between. There really isn't much you can do to replace broken tiles, chipped engineered flooring or cut vinyl without replacing portions assuming you kept extra and even then, it looks exactly like a new piece in a field of faded and scratched flooring.

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by Sandtrap » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:45 am

Momus wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:29 am
renue74 wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:00 am
LVT is the way to go for rentals. Don't skimp on the cheaper LVT because it's thinner and not as durable. Go mid-level.

An installer can do your project in 2 days or so. If you do it, it'll probably take a month of weekends.

If you go with carpet, we see it as having a life span of 1 - 2 tenants. At least with LVT, if it gets chipped, it's not as noticeable.
Damn, a month? lol.
Vinyl run 1.69 to 2.99/sqft. Installation runs $2/sqft. 500 sqft costs $3k minimum. I need to cut on labor, maybe a cheap hourly handyman that knows how to install flooring -_-?
Handyman?
Be prepared for mixed results :shock:

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Re: Advise on getting a cheap new flooring

Post by wolf359 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:10 am

Momus wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:19 pm
I'm thinking of replacing my carpet to vinyl or tile flooring. How do I go about doing this cheaply?

Lowe's or HD? Is this something I can DIY in 1-2 days project? They charge like $2/sqft just to install. I have 0 experience with this.

What's the best flooring that last a long time? More specific recommendation is good. Too many darn selections (; ̄Д ̄)
HD and Lowes usually have classes where they show you how to install it.

"Lasts long" depends upon the situation. Is the area in a basement or kitchen where it may get wet or flood? Do looks matter? Is the area high traffic? Does it get exposed to lots of sunlight? Are there kids or pets? Is the temperature consistent or vary significantly throughout the day or the year?

Different flooring will last longer in different circumstances.

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