How Much Is Your Sewer Bill?

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How Much Is Your Sewer Bill?

Post by TheDDC » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:29 pm

Flat rate sewer bill payer here in MCOL. It seems like our sewer plant keeps jacking bills up. We are now up to $125 per quarter. When I moved here ten years ago it was $75 I believe. Excuse to keep raising rates is "plant upgrade"

Is $41.67 per month too high for a flat rate sewer bill?

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Post by stats99 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:33 pm

Northern NJ, I pay about $75 a quarter sewer and $75 a quarter water. Sewer fee based on water use. So $600 annual water + sewer

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Post by sport » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:34 pm

Our bill ranges between $40 and $55 per month. That includes a $10 rainwater assessment for hard surfaces such as roofs and driveways.

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Post by Shackleton » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:35 pm

Even if it is, are you going to move to another city over a $40-something sewer bill?

Our water bill includes sewer and is $298 per quarter regardless of amount of water used. When I realized that, I started taking longer showers.
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Post by Kenkat » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:38 pm

My last one was $91.48 A MONTH. The sewer district in metro Cincinnati is spending $2 BILLION with a B dollars to address combined sewer overflows. Combined sewers, where waste and storm run-off all go into the same sewer was a fine idea when we just dumped raw sewage into the Ohio River but now it is driving a huge spend in infrastructure to address. It was much lower 10 or 20 years ago, as was my water bill as well.

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Post by augryphon » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:41 pm

Water is about $20 and sewer is 2x water bill, so $60 per mo total

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Post by danaht » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:48 pm

augryphon wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:41 pm
Water is about $20 and sewer is 2x water bill, so $60 per mo total
Mine is the opposite. Usually the water bill is very high - and the sewer bill is 1/2 of the water bill. Water is expensive where I live.

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Post by dumbbunny » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:49 pm

$150/quarter
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Post by Scrapr » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:39 pm

Kenkat wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:38 pm
My last one was $91.48 A MONTH. The sewer district in metro Cincinnati is spending $2 BILLION with a B dollars to address combined sewer overflows. Combined sewers, where waste and storm run-off all go into the same sewer was a fine idea when we just dumped raw sewage into the Ohio River but now it is driving a huge spend in infrastructure to address. It was much lower 10 or 20 years ago, as was my water bill as well.
Portland Or sewer & stormwater are about 80/mo. Water bill is on top of that. Portland has had the combined sewer overflow being addressed for about the last decade. Called the Big Pipe project.

just looked up the project. It was finished in 2011 for 1.44 Billion. It was a 20 year project. But the overflows continue in big rain events. But much less now

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Post by Smorgasbord » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:51 pm

At my current house, pumping the septic every three years is ~$250, and every few decades there is a $10,000+ charge. At my old house, the sewer averaged about $50 a month plus another $20 in storm water fees. The town had a combined storm/sanitary system that tended to discharge raw sewage into the local river when there was a hard rain. Supposedly the high bills were to fund upgrades to address that issue.

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Post by jucor » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:03 pm

Small city in Midwest, 2 person household in ~1750 sq ft house. Our sewer cost is about $15 month -- a couple of dollars more in summer, less in winter, as it is tied to water consumption, and in summer we use more water in out vegetable garden (which does not impact sewer use, but...). Pretty cheap, over all. My monthly city utility bill, which covers water sewer, and trash, varies from about $50 to $65 per month.

Rates have increased recently to pay for water treatment and sewage plant upgrades as well as increased cost of garbage service (local landfill closed, the municipality now hauls our garbage ~60 miles away) -- still cheap, IMHO, but locals here screaming. :?
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Post by Doom&Gloom » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:03 pm

Can vary quite a bit month to month. Monthly average is ~$20; water ~$40. LCOL-MCOL

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Post by MikeWillRetire » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:24 pm

Over a 12 month period, our water & sewer bill averages $50 per month, for two people, in Maryland.

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Post by DanMahowny » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:34 pm

My sewer bill averages around $2,000 p/yr.

Roughly the same amount for water.

I consume around 235,000 gallons of water per year.
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Post by mw1739 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:57 pm

Ours is flat rate of $39.XX per month. Recently got notice that it’s increasing to about $42.00 starting next year.

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Post by Mlm » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:15 pm

Sewer: $35/mo
Water: $15/mo

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Post by ladycat » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:26 pm

Our monthly charges:
sewer: 57
water: 48
trash: 20 (30 gal bin)

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Post by Jags4186 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:29 pm

Between $40 and $60 a month. We have American Water in Northern NJ.

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Post by shorty313 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:49 pm

We are in a semi rural part of NJ and our neighborhood has a private sewer (most of our township is septic). $385/quarter. We have well water, so that’s free until we need to drill a new one.

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Post by Vernn » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:10 pm

Sewer $33/m
Water $125/m

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Post by criticalmass » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:04 pm

TheDDC wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:29 pm
Flat rate sewer bill payer here in MCOL. It seems like our sewer plant keeps jacking bills up. We are now up to $125 per quarter. When I moved here ten years ago it was $75 I believe. Excuse to keep raising rates is "plant upgrade"

Is $41.67 per month too high for a flat rate sewer bill?

-TheDDC
Operating sewer plants is expensive but capital expenditures for improvements are much more expensive. New regulations to protect watersheds (e.g. Puget Sound, Chesapeake Bay, Great Lakes, or places closer to you) from pollutants including phosphate control have impacted treatment. If your area still has combined sewers that dump raw poo/sewage into your local creeks and rivers when it rains, that needs addressing and this often is the most expensive of all. If your sewer operator is a private sector company, return on investment for it comes after you pay for everything else. If your sewage is being well run and you care about clean watersheds, you’re getting a good return on your own investment.

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Post by MathWizard » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:36 pm

About $40/month up from 30, which is the same as water bill. Water into house = water down the drain.
Recent upgrade needed for both water treatment and sewage treatment plants which was approved by city
wide vote.

Sewer bill can be reduced in summer if you buy a meter for your lawn watering. The costs
never seemed to be worth it. We use rain barrel water to augment garden watering during dry spells.

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Post by CMD1 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:45 pm

This will be very location specific. In Seattle we pay around $300 every two months for water/sewer/garbage (including recycling/compost) (Yikes, I know). Atlanta Ga is another city with sky high sewer rates.

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Post by Gryphon » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:53 pm

$21.75 per month for sewer. Average water bill is about the same amount give or take, but the sewer bill is not based on water usage.

Trash is just over $24 per month; that includes curbside recycling, yard waste pickup, and quarterly large item pickups (appliances, furniture, etc).

So most months it's $65 - $70 for all three.

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Post by jharkin » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:23 am

We don’t have sewers here (private septic) but we do have city water, and in the last 2 years they have added a $75/quarter surcharge to fund replacing the entire water main system in town.

It stings, but if shortsighted voters had not kept voting down incremental repairs and replacements over the last 30 years to save a buck (the mains are something like 60-70years old now) we wouldn’t be in this position.

Artificially low expenses due to deferred maintenance cannot last forever, as we can see from the condition of America’s bridges..........

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Post by Cigarman » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:02 am

Here is my latest bill in Holly Springs, NC (just outside Raleigh)

Garbage 9.69
Yard Waste 3.00
Recycling 4.34
Water 26.54
Sewer 26.54
Irrigation Water 291.92
Stormwater 3.00

Note that I have a separate meter for irrigation (my wife is a gardener) so I don't have to pay the "sewer" on that. Weekly pickup of Garbage and Yard Waste, bi-weekly recycling.

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Post by Frisco Kid » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:29 am

Old infrastructure here on SF Peninsula with large expenditures budgeted for maintenance/upgrades over the next few years. We pay flat rate sewer per parcel via property taxes, water is separate based on usage. Last year sewer only was $443 with an increase to $816 for this year. Future increases through 2022 look like $125 yearly. Short of the long in 2022 we will be paying about $1350 yearly versus $443 in 2017 so a 300% increase over 5 years sewer only. Water rates here are increasing significantly each year as well. Last years water bill was $1025 for 2 people on a small city lot. Being gardeners (even though we conserve aggressively) we use more water than an average same size household. Have friends with larger properties and pools that pay $5000 yearly water only......

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Post by Rupert » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:32 am

My combined water/sewer bill averages $30-40/month. Sewer is 2x water. (We have an abundance of water here).

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Post by munemaker » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:38 am

We live in a small town.

Water and sewer depend on usage. Ours runs about $25/month each. We also pay for trash removal which is about $19/month.

Annoying that they meter the water and charge sewer based on water usage. Of course, all the water does not go down the drain, such as washing a car, watering the lawn, etc. I saw someone above has a separate meter for water that does not go down the drain. Seems like a good idea, but for our light usage, probably not worth the trouble, if they would even do it here.

If you ever visit your area's sewage treatment plant, you will realize why it costs so much. Even for our little town, a lot of equipment, technology and personnel involved in complying with state regulations.

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Post by Rupert » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:52 am

munemaker wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:38 am

Annoying that they meter the water and charge sewer based on water usage. Of course, all the water does not go down the drain, such as washing a car, watering the lawn, etc. I saw someone above has a separate meter for water that does not go down the drain. Seems like a good idea, but for our light usage, probably not worth the trouble, if they would even do it here.
In my city, you can buy a separate sewer meter, which I think is what you're describing. It measures what goes down the drain as accurately as the water meter measures water usage. The meters are somewhat expensive, so it's only a good choice for people who have swimming pools and people with large yards who do a lot of watering.

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Post by knpstr » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:03 am

DanMahowny wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:34 pm
I consume around 235,000 gallons of water per year.
How are you using so much water? ~19,500 gallons a month?
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Post by dwickenh » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:07 am

Water bill and sewer bill(based on 1:1 basis with water) has averaged 51.03 per month so far this year per my spreadsheet.
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Post by HueyLD » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:45 am

Rupert wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:52 am
munemaker wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:38 am

Annoying that they meter the water and charge sewer based on water usage. Of course, all the water does not go down the drain, such as washing a car, watering the lawn, etc. I saw someone above has a separate meter for water that does not go down the drain. Seems like a good idea, but for our light usage, probably not worth the trouble, if they would even do it here.
In my city, you can buy a separate sewer meter, which I think is what you're describing. It measures what goes down the drain as accurately as the water meter measures water usage. The meters are somewhat expensive, so it's only a good choice for people who have swimming pools and people with large yards who do a lot of watering.
ILO of a separate sewer meter, our municipal water company uses the monthly average water usage for Dec. - Feb. as the sewer usage rate for the 12 month period that follows. I think that system works very well because the vast majority of households do not use their swimming pools and they don't need to water the yard much during the coldest part of the winter.

However, our water rates are relatively high and the tier structure makes it very expensive for those who use more than the average household amount.

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Post by lakpr » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:51 am

Central NJ. My water bill is approximately $55 per month, and sewer bill is $150 per quarter.

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Post by Magruder » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:57 am

NH's White Mountains: Municipal water and sewer is "free", altho the cost is buried in our tax rate of $13.44 per $1,000 property tax rate.

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Post by Sheepdog » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:57 am

Small - medium city in Indiana
Cost per month average 2017 and 2018 ytd:
Sewage 33.24
Water 35.90

I use a fair amount of water for gardening. I get a sewage credit annually for the difference between the average growing season water usage and the non growing season months because the water used for gardening does not go through the sewer system.
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Post by SQRT » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:01 am

Water averages about $500 per month. Lots of pool evaporation and irrigation. Sewer and other small miscellaneous municipal charges currently about $130 per month. Paradise Valley Arizona. Water pretty expensive in the dessert.
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Post by open_circuit » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:13 am

Not very boglehead-ish, but I have no idea. I think it's in the 30-40/month range, but is dependent on volume of water used. I don't have a choice to competitively shop water/sewer, so I pay the bill as long as it appears to be accurate. Without moving to a new house, I don't think there's anything practical I can do about it.

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Post by mhc » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:34 am

My water, sewer, and storm water are serviced and billed by 3 different entities.

Sewer: $40/mo flat rate

I live in an average COL area.

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Post by daheld » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:43 am

Sewer: ~$55/month
Water: ~$75/quarter

So total water and sewer bill comes to around $80/month. Water bill does vary based on usage and we've only paid one billing cycle in the new house so we will see if that fluctuates much, though I don't anticipate it will.

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Post by DanMahowny » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:04 am

knpstr wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:03 am
DanMahowny wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:34 pm
I consume around 235,000 gallons of water per year.
How are you using so much water? ~19,500 gallons a month?
Showers and lawn watering mostly.

I have a shower with 6 heads. My showers typically last 40-60 minutes. Very relaxing and cheaper than regular massages.

I water my lawn daily. It looks fabulous.

Also, I disable all "water- saving" measures such as low flow shower heads, toilets, etc. Run dishwasher every night at bedtime, full or near empty. I see no reason to conserve water. It's cheap and plentiful.

Money well spent, for me at least.
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Post by jabberwockOG » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:12 am

Combined city bill is for - water, sewer, trash, and natural gas. Then monthly bill varies between low of $68 and high of $120 depending on how much water we use for the yard (we use a lot of water in July and August). Average bill is $80. We only have gas stove, so the gas component is never more than $10 flat rate fee.

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Post by eugenem » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:26 am

Sewer is a flat rate in my area of Morris County, NJ

$565 for the year. $282.50 billed every 2 quarters. Water is separate.

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Post by dcabler » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:32 am

Flat Sewer Bill just outside of the city limits of Austin TX. $98 per month

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Post by willthrill81 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:43 am

Our sewer runs $48 monthly. But as long as we stay within our fairly generous allotment, we pay nothing for water.
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Post by MJS » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:15 am

My city in Arizona rewards low volume users:
Sewer = $20.25/month (~$61/quarter)
$13 service + 7.25 for 2 CCFs
The month that Comcast used my hose bibb for a street project, the sewer bill alone was over $100. Comcast compensated me.

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Post by dsmil » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:03 pm

In Maryland, we average $35 per month for our water/sewer bill, of which $10 is for some environmental/restoration fees. $3k gallons per month.

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Post by knpstr » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:38 pm

DanMahowny wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:04 am
knpstr wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:03 am
DanMahowny wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:34 pm
I consume around 235,000 gallons of water per year.
How are you using so much water? ~19,500 gallons a month?
Showers and lawn watering mostly.

I have a shower with 6 heads. My showers typically last 40-60 minutes. Very relaxing and cheaper than regular massages.

I water my lawn daily. It looks fabulous.

Also, I disable all "water- saving" measures such as low flow shower heads, toilets, etc. Run dishwasher every night at bedtime, full or near empty. I see no reason to conserve water. It's cheap and plentiful.

Money well spent, for me at least.
Wow!

I was just curious as my apartment house (5 1-bed, 1 2-bed) uses about 7,000-9,000 per month and that is 11 adults and a few kids. Though no lawn watering or laundry on-site.
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Post by TravelGeek » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:55 pm

munemaker wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:38 am

Annoying that they meter the water and charge sewer based on water usage. Of course, all the water does not go down the drain, such as washing a car, watering the lawn, etc. I saw someone above has a separate meter for water that does not go down the drain. Seems like a good idea, but for our light usage, probably not worth the trouble, if they would even do it here.
Our city bases the sewer “consumption” on the water consumption during the winter months when the sprinklers are shut down.

Our combined water/sewer bill averages around $90 per month. There are flat fees and consumption based components to the overall bill total.

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Post by Earl Lemongrab » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:04 pm

I'm not sure what the point of the thread is. If it's flat rate, then there's no methods to cut down on it. You have to pay. If you don't understand the bill or think it's in error, ask them.
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