tin369 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:09 am
This question is more for families with kids and what Ian your typical weekend look like. One of the things as I mentioned earlier for us thinking to move to SD is that the weather here in philly or the northeast is starting to get grey and cold and you can’t go out and do things with kids, and there isn’t any outdoor activity to begin with year round in the area that we live in. The beaches are 1.5-2 hours away and super crowded and water is brown.
There are mountains within 2 hours for skiing etc. but I like warm weather not hot but warm, so that during winter it doesn’t look so depressing.
So wondering if you guys could give me an idea of a typical weekend, in SD specially for families. The zoo and the LEGO land and sea world will become old very soon. So what else to do with kids, how do you enjoy the weather with kids.
From this discussion I also have come to see that there is not many things close by to do, except beach. I mean if you want to go to Vegas it’s 5 hrs drive, snow mountain etc is also far, driving as you all have said north of SD is bad.
As most of you have suggested, we will have to make Multiple trips and see the areas we like, rent for a while and then decide. I thought this would be an easy decision but you guys have pointed too many negative.
I want to hear something positive besides weather, which I think is a big factor for us specially if we can live near the coast. Other wise living in mainland with hot temperatures, wild fires, traffic is not appealing to me.
From this post, not really clear on your goals. Really,you can't go out and do things with kids where you live in winter? I grew up in the rainy NW and was out all winter on my bike, playing soccer, in the snow when there was snow. We were outside every day. In the cold areas like Minnesota, kids are out on frozen outdoor rinks becoming future NHL hockey players, or inside shooting hoops. In California, most kids are not surfing, they are probably playing soccer, riding their bikes,doing other sports, etc..
Part of the California lifestyle is what economists call "psychic income". You might live a mile from the beach and only go there once a month, but the psychic income is the income tradeoff ( or house size tradeoff) for knowing that you could go to the beach every day if you want.
I think the issue of fires is a serious one. Many fires in recent years have occurred under suspicious circumstances, from a homeless campfire spark to deliberate arson, and the consequences to beautiful areas such as Rancho Bernardo can be disastrous. If people did not build in those high risk areas, that would exclude much of SD county. A desert climate is by definition high risk for fires,and those chaparral covered hillsides have always burned periodically as part of the natural cycle.Yet people still rebuild because the areas are beautiful.I remember arriving in Orange County in October,1980, and the hills above Brea were all on fire, they were spraying with hoses from the Orange freeway. Yet the area still exists and thrives today.
I think mostly, whether you live in Phllly, Seattle or SD, typical weeks involve going to work, kids going to school, weekend sports, no matter what the climate. Here in the NW you can sail the San Juan Islands from March to December with good weather. There is no surf because these are inland waterways, so boating is easier but obviously no surfing and no beautiful surf beaches like SD.
If you are looking at California, perhaps you should look not only at SD, but up the coast as I mentioned, at Ventura, Thousand Oaks, San Luis Obispo.These are all areas with nice climates, and some are not as geographically trapped as SD.
As far as taxes, as another poster mentioned, Proposition 13 back in the 80's pretty well froze property taxes,allowing people to continue living in their homes as values rose, without being taxed out. The flip side of that is that it gives those people a windfall wealth accumulation, since when they sell and reap a huge profit, they don't have to then repay what would have been higher property taxes.
Instead, the increasing expense for schools, police and fire, etc., are paid by you, when you arrive and get to not only pay the seller a high profit on a home, but now the property tax for you is stepped way up, since your purchase basis is the new house value. Prop 13 is also why schools in California are pretty dumpy, the lower tax base barely covers teachers' salaries, you will see many schools that look like old portable classrooms, painted outside in dirty pink.
For people with no family, moving to SD can mean downsizing to a small condo by the beach and a lifestyle that may not work at all for a family needing more room. I don't think there is any evidence that kids in California really have more activities than kids in Philly or Minneapolis, perhaps the contrary.