Buying a pre-owned Lexus IS-250

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Buying a pre-owned Lexus IS-250

Post by manuvns » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:07 am

I am looking to Buy a pre-owned 2015 Lexus IS-250 f-sports for $22k with 60k miles ( new retail price ~$43k) , what are the bogleheads thoughts on this purchase will someone recommend another car in this category at similar price point ?

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Re: Buying a pre-owned Lexus IS-250

Post by Alexa9 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:14 am

Brand new Accord Sport or used Acura TLX. I think your choice is good though.

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Post by manuvns » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:37 am

Alexa9 wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:14 am
Brand new Accord Sport or used Acura TLX. I think your choice is good though.
thanks for the suggestion after research i found TLX and Accord are bigger cars the TLX v-6 AWD starts at $39k.

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Post by Alexa9 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:42 am

Maybe a Mazda 3 if you're looking for an affordable new small sporty reliable sedan. If luxury, Lexus is the way to go. Maybe a 3 Series if you know a good mechanic.

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Re: Buying a pre-owned Lexus IS-250

Post by researcher » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:51 am

manuvns wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:37 am
Alexa9 wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:14 am
Brand new Accord Sport or used Acura TLX. I think your choice is good though.
thanks for the suggestion after research i found TLX and Accord are bigger cars the TLX v-6 AWD starts at $39k.
The suggestion was a USED Acura TLX, so the new pricing you quoted isn't relevant. (Though it is $4K lower than the new Lexus).

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Post by lazydavid » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:02 pm

Avoid the IS-250. Woefully underpowered, not that great of fuel economy to compensate, and the only US Toyota/Lexus vehicle that has carbon build up (CBU) issues. Find an IS-350 instead.

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Post by inbox788 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:09 pm

Nice looking car that I've considered myself. I worry about the previous owner and what kind of driving and maintenance the car had. It's probably not a little old lady that was driving it conservatively.

I also came across some HS250h listings that were surprisingly low, but learned about some transmission recall that might be expensive to fix out of warranty.

Any such concerns about the IS250? Know anything about carbon buildup? These threads came up readily on a search. One posting recommended the IS350 and you can search for more.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-2nd ... p-csp.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-2nd ... is250.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-2nd ... ssues.html

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Post by Taylor Larimore » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:15 pm

manuvns wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:07 am
I am looking to Buy a pre-owned 2015 Lexus IS-250 f-sports for $22k with 60k miles ( new retail price ~$43k) , what are the bogleheads thoughts on this purchase will someone recommend another car in this category at similar price point ?
The Consumer Reports April Auto Issue recommends the Lexus IS-250 as a "used car." The 2015 model also enjoys a "much better than average" repair record.

My last car was a 10-year old Toyota Corolla. It did a splendid job to get me from A to B. The savings by using a cheap car during a lifetime can amount to hundreds of thousands of dollars when you retire. In our case, it paid for two round-the-world cruises.

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Re: Buying a pre-owned Lexus IS-250

Post by manuvns » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:28 pm

inbox788 wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:09 pm
Nice looking car that I've considered myself. I worry about the previous owner and what kind of driving and maintenance the car had. It's probably not a little old lady that was driving it conservatively.

I also came across some HS250h listings that were surprisingly low, but learned about some transmission recall that might be expensive to fix out of warranty.

Any such concerns about the IS250? Know anything about carbon buildup? These threads came up readily on a search. One posting recommended the IS350 and you can search for more.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-2nd ... p-csp.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-2nd ... is250.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-2nd ... ssues.html
this threads are from 2nd gen IS , is the issue also in 3rd gen . looking into the clublexus forums

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Re: Buying a pre-owned Lexus IS-250

Post by manuvns » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:30 pm

researcher wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:51 am
manuvns wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:37 am
Alexa9 wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:14 am
Brand new Accord Sport or used Acura TLX. I think your choice is good though.
thanks for the suggestion after research i found TLX and Accord are bigger cars the TLX v-6 AWD starts at $39k.
The suggestion was a USED Acura TLX, so the new pricing you quoted isn't relevant. (Though it is $4K lower than the new Lexus).
thanks again the TLX was my pick but my wife wants smaller car and ILX looks like civic , i like the f-sports display guages and red leather on black paint combination.

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Re: Buying a pre-owned Lexus IS-250

Post by monkey_business » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:35 pm

manuvns wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:07 am
I am looking to Buy a pre-owned 2015 Lexus IS-250 f-sports for $22k with 60k miles ( new retail price ~$43k) , what are the bogleheads thoughts on this purchase will someone recommend another car in this category at similar price point ?
What made you pick this car? What are you looking for in a car?

Personally, I wouldn't buy it. Paying $22k for a "sports" sedan with 60k miles that is slower than a new Civic seems silly.

The 2019 ILX got a big refresh. It is still based on the same old platform, but it might a good value for the money as Acura dropped the price. It also has red leather as an option.

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Post by Hukedonfonix4me » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:35 pm

We just bought a 2016 es-350 luxury edition with ~10k miles for $28,400 out the door. We were looking at Toyota but found a better deal on the Lexus due to oversaturation of this model in our market. Also, Lexus came with longer manufacturers warranty than the Toyota did. We keep cars 10-15 years.
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Post by FireHorse » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:33 pm

manuvns wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:07 am
I am looking to Buy a pre-owned 2015 Lexus IS-250 f-sports for $22k with 60k miles ( new retail price ~$43k) , what are the bogleheads thoughts on this purchase will someone recommend another car in this category at similar price point ?
Own one for 4 years. Loving it!
Not bad price for 2015 with 60k miles
Enjoy!!

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Post by Afty » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:15 pm

monkey_business wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:35 pm
manuvns wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:07 am
I am looking to Buy a pre-owned 2015 Lexus IS-250 f-sports for $22k with 60k miles ( new retail price ~$43k) , what are the bogleheads thoughts on this purchase will someone recommend another car in this category at similar price point ?
What made you pick this car? What are you looking for in a car?
Yeah, there's no information here about what you're looking for or what your constraints are. Do you prefer sporty or comfortable? Will anyone need to sit the back seat? How important is reliability to you? What other cars have you considered? What do you currently drive, and what do you like/dislike about it?

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Re: Buying a pre-owned Lexus IS-250

Post by Watty » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:37 pm

manuvns wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:07 am
2015 Lexus IS-250 f-sports...
One thing to watch out for is that Toyota/Lexus has added a whole laundry list of advanced safety features to all their models so when you compare one model year to another you really have to dig through the details. It is not a comparable car but even my 2018 Corolla has things like automatic braking and adaptive cruise control.

On a more trivial level the 2015 may not be as well integrated to your cell phone which is important to some people.

Different things are important to different people but you should know what safety tradeoffs your are making when you compare that car to lower end newer car.
manuvns wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:07 am
will someone recommend another car in this category at similar price point ?


I am not real familiar with it but a would a Toyota 86 be of interest?

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Post by FlyAF » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:41 pm

I set out to purchase one of these until I test drove one. Like others have mentioned, it's under powered and boring as sin to drive, though it does look good. I ended up in a Cadillac ATS 2.0 Turbo AWD and after a year, I still love it.

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Post by manuvns » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:03 pm

Watty wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:37 pm


I am not real familiar with it but a would a Toyota 86 be of interest?
thanks for the reply , i need space for 4 . 86/BRZ is good but no room in back seat .

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Post by tommy85 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:30 pm

Agree with IS250 being underpowered. Doesn't really feel like a sports car. We bought 2015 IS 250 F sport AWD with 28k miles for 31k last year. Also have a 2014 ES350 which feels more powerful than IS250. Also much smoother ride in ES.

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Post by indexonlyplease » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:07 pm

why would someone buy a used car with 60k miles. Are you that desperate to drive a Lexus. Maybe not your time for this expensive are. Try a new car for that price. Remember, its not only the purchase of the car, but what it may cost in repairs. The Lexus is not cheap.

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Post by monkey_business » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:53 pm

indexonlyplease wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:07 pm
why would someone buy a used car with 60k miles. Are you that desperate to drive a Lexus.
This. I don't see why someone would pay $22k for this car unless they just really want an "L" badge on their car's grill.

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Post by cashmoney » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:05 pm

manuvns wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:07 am
I am looking to Buy a pre-owned 2015 Lexus IS-250 f-sports for $22k with 60k miles ( new retail price ~$43k) , what are the bogleheads thoughts on this purchase will someone recommend another car in this category at similar price point ?



" pre owned " I must say the car industry has done a good job convincing the public that buying a pre owned vehicle is somehow better than buying a used one

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Post by pennylane » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:15 pm

It’s a good car, go for it

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Post by lazydavid » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:21 pm

indexonlyplease wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:07 pm
why would someone buy a used car with 60k miles. Are you that desperate to drive a Lexus. Maybe not your time for this expensive are. Try a new car for that price. Remember, its not only the purchase of the car, but what it may cost in repairs. The Lexus is not cheap.
Even though I think the IS250 specifically is a terrible choice for the reasons I outlined above, I don't agree that buying a used Lexus with 60k miles is a horrible decision. There are plenty of IS cars that have made it 200k plus miles with minimal work outside of normal maintenance.

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Post by tim1999 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:49 pm

It will probably be very reliable unless somehow abused by a prior owner, and it looks good in my eyes, but as others have said, it is relatively slow/weak on power, and doesn't even get great gas mileage to make up for it.

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Post by HIinvestor » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:12 am

We always take any used cars we are seriously considering to our favorite mechanic for his opinion about whether or not to buy the car. We trust his advice and he’s very candid with us. I’d suggest you take you car to a good mechanic for his/her honest evaluation.

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Post by manuvns » Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:27 pm

monkey_business wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:53 pm
indexonlyplease wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:07 pm
why would someone buy a used car with 60k miles. Are you that desperate to drive a Lexus.
This. I don't see why someone would pay $22k for this car unless they just really want an "L" badge on their car's grill.
my wife drove a prius for 5 years and is now complaining .

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Re: Buying a pre-owned Lexus IS-250

Post by FireProof » Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:48 pm

manuvns wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:27 pm
monkey_business wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:53 pm
indexonlyplease wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:07 pm
why would someone buy a used car with 60k miles. Are you that desperate to drive a Lexus.
This. I don't see why someone would pay $22k for this car unless they just really want an "L" badge on their car's grill.
my wife drove a prius for 5 years and is now complaining .
About what aspect of the Prius?

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Re: Buying a pre-owned Lexus IS-250

Post by monkey_business » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:01 pm

manuvns wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:27 pm
monkey_business wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:53 pm
indexonlyplease wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:07 pm
why would someone buy a used car with 60k miles. Are you that desperate to drive a Lexus.
This. I don't see why someone would pay $22k for this car unless they just really want an "L" badge on their car's grill.
my wife drove a prius for 5 years and is now complaining .
Yeah, you're really not giving us much information here. In order to make recommendations, it would be helpful to know what you're (or your wife) is looking for. What do you want and don't want in a car? What is your budget? What specifically has drawn you to the IS250?

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Post by FlyAF » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:32 pm

FireProof wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:48 pm
manuvns wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:27 pm
monkey_business wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:53 pm
indexonlyplease wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:07 pm
why would someone buy a used car with 60k miles. Are you that desperate to drive a Lexus.
This. I don't see why someone would pay $22k for this car unless they just really want an "L" badge on their car's grill.
my wife drove a prius for 5 years and is now complaining .
About what aspect of the Prius?
I'd venture a guess that it's because a Prius is an uncomfortable, no frills, ugly, no fun to drive car that was designed for the single purpose of getting incredible gas mileage. They serve their purpose incredibly well, but for many, there is more to life and driving and than trying to eek out every available mile per gallon of gas paid for. I know my body would be screaming at me after driving one for more than 30 minutes, much less 5 years.

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Re: Buying a pre-owned Lexus IS-250

Post by RootSki » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:44 am

Re: Prius - Life is too short to drive boring cars everyday :beer

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