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Re: Advice on how to deal with barking dogs

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:02 am
by mariezzz
Try buying a high quality dog whistle (or I guess there are phone apps), and using it every time they bark. It may or may not work, but dog whistles aren't that expensive.

There are devices you can buy that will generate a high pitched tone that are triggered by noise - but they may not work well if there are other noises that trigger them.

The more you can condition the dog to associate barking with the high pitch of the whistle, the more likely it is to work.

Unfortunately, the owner is irresponsible (and that includes the house owner in whose yard the dogs are). You can always try complaining if your city has a noise ordinance they enforce. Waiting to complain unfortunately does nothing but allow the problem to continue, and often, get worse - the dogs are now accustomed to barking in that yard.

Some might also try making their own unexpected loud noises, including at 3 am - but that may not work, because the home owner must be near-deaf, and it would likely affect other neighbors.

Re: Advice on how to deal with barking dogs

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:05 am
by mariezzz
malabargold wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:48 pm
Address the animal cruelty that is happening by
Calling the authorities - police and animal welfare.

They should not divulge your name.

The dogs’ problem and yours will both be solved
Freedom of information acts mean that information may be divulged (this is true even for 911 calls, which we've all seen played on television & internet). You may be able to make a complaint without stating who you are, however.

Re: Advice on how to deal with barking dogs

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:17 am
by Shallowpockets
You are a great dog owner then. I commend you. But you are not typical. Those whose pets are noisy and loud and disturbing the neighborhood are not like that. History is full of incidents where noisy dog owners have responded aggressively and there have been sufficient reports of assault by those owners or by the one who is complaining. There have been deaths on both sides.

I lost my case about the barking dogs on Monday. Defendant cited a continuous noise definition from the general city noise ordinance that had an impossible to meet criteria. She acted as her own attorney. Noise had to be 10 minutes continuous, cumulatiive to one hour in an eight hour period. Prosecuter did not challenge. A city prosecutor lost to a layperson acting as her own attorney. Time was just after 5 pm. Court ends at 5 pm. Judge seemed to want to get it over.

Be aware that a complaint against barking dogs is the city against the defendent. I was only a witness. As such there was nothing I could say in response to this. I could only answer questions diected to me. The prosecuter was a mostly passive participant. He really had no idea how to present the case or what evidence he needed. He did not do his job. Then again, why would I expect that in such a case. Dog bark complaints are historically low low priority.

I learned so much about the law in this episode. None of it uplifting.

So now the bad neighbor knows that the problem exists and today the dogs are barking again.

Re: Advice on how to deal with barking dogs

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:38 am
by aristotelian
Shallowpockets wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:35 am
I am going to court this afternoon for a barking dog complaint. It is the city against the dog's owner wih me as a witness. This because you cannot remain anonymous for a complaint. I finally am going this route.
I would expect very little when confronting the dog owners. >Bad< Dog owners are some of the most oblivious, non caring, aggressive people in the world.
Fixed that for you, speaking as a dog owner myself. We are not all bad/unreasonable people. I would be just as stressed and upset as anyone, not just because of the noise but also out of concern for the animals.

Re: Advice on how to deal with barking dogs

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:56 am
by snackdog
Shallowpockets wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:17 am
.. History is full of incidents where noisy dog owners have responded aggressively and there have been sufficient reports of assault by those owners or by the one who is complaining. There have been deaths on both sides. ...
Glad you are keeping it all in perspective.

Re: Advice on how to deal with barking dogs

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:32 pm
by randomguy
Move to a HOA community that enforces the rules against annoying neighbours:) Assuming your not moving odds are you are going to try for noise ordinances and animal control which has a mixed bag depending on where you live.

Re: Advice on how to deal with barking dogs

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:49 pm
by barnaclebob
"manhandling" a dog would not be considered abuse in most cases unless its causing injury. I'm not saying the dogs aren't neglected or in poor living conditions but don't put too much weight on the word manhandling.

Re: Advice on how to deal with barking dogs

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:27 pm
by iamlucky13
It sounds like it has been a while since you last talked to him. I'd recommend talking to him again, unless you have specific reasons to believe the neighbor will act-out in response.

I would not view this as a confrontation to hold with him, but a request, possibly incorporating a couple suggestions. For example, "John, we need to talk about the dogs again. Their barking has gotten worse since we talked about this before. I have tried to just get used to it and sleep through it, but they are simply too loud. I need you to address your pet's noise. Have you tried working with a trainer, or do you have plans to provide a more enclosed space for them to sleep to contain the noise? Do you think they get restless because they don't get enough activity during the day and might need walks or a larger yard?"

We all need sleep, and even if he sleeps fine through it, he has to accept that not everybody does. Nobody simply decides to be easily woken by noises like this, but he did make his own decision to own dogs.

I don't get the sense he is likely to respond effectively to the request and may simply not really know what to do (hence why I like asking questions that suggest options), but at least by trying to work with him first, he knows he was given a chance.

Re: Advice on how to deal with barking dogs

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:36 pm
by brandy
I used to live in a rural area with low population. For the entire time--over 10 years I lived there, the area was quiet day and night, with the exception of construction or the occasional chain saw on firewood. A new house was built about .1 mile from me, I could see part of it through trees. The new owner moved in, and must have worked evenings into the wee hours. He would get home and turn his dog loose about 3:00 AM, and the dog would run loose, barking for a few hours, night after night. I was finally able to determine it WAS him, and managed to get his phone number. (I didn't know him, never saw him, and this was before caller ID.)
One night he turned the dog out. I waited about 10 minutes, and called him to tell him his dog was barking, woke me up, please bring it in, and hung up. Called him the next couple of nights to tell him the same thing. He interrupted me, wanted to know who I was. "One of the neighbors. Call your D___dog in!" and hung up. He did, and that was the last time the dog was out more than a few minutes.
Maybe that'll work for you.

Continued loss of sleep is a health issue. As such, it could be grounds for a civil suit. You might need medical documentation...

Re: Advice on how to deal with barking dogs

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:04 pm
by investingdad
There's always lead poisoning.

I kid.

Seriously, you have to decide if you want to live there long term. I was fed up with road noise at the first house we built, so we built another new home and sold the first.

Much happier.