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InvestoGuy
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Tesla Model 3 Owners: Your experience so far

Post by InvestoGuy » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:41 am

Any Tesla Model 3 owners here? What has your experience been so far, specifically:

1. Was it worth the money?
2. Months of ownership so far
3. Still positive, negative or somewhere in between (say on a 1-5 scale, 5 being very positive / happy).
4. Any big issues / surprises
5. What was the first issue you had that need some sort of service
6. 2-3 things you like the most.

Thank you for your time.

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Owners: Your experience so far

Post by sc9182 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:47 am

Good balanced review:

https://youtu.be/uS9t9tb43Ts

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Owners: Your experience so far

Post by BH13 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:52 pm

InvestoGuy wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:41 am
1. Was it worth the money?
2. Months of ownership so far
3. Still positive, negative or somewhere in between (say on a 1-5 scale, 5 being very positive / happy).
4. Any big issues / surprises
5. What was the first issue you had that need some sort of service
6. 2-3 things you like the most.
1. Yes, though it wasn't a financial decision.
2. 4 months
3. 5 - very happy
4. No issues
5. Haven't needed any service yet. Have a slight bit of wind noise over 70 mph that I'll ask to be looked at.
6. Other than the usual - electric, torque etc, I love the user simplification Tesla brings:

- Automatic garage opening / closing based on GPS geolocation
- No turning the car on/off, no locking / unlocking, no keys -> This has worked well for me.
- Automatic zooming in/out of the navigation map based on speed & exit / navigation turns.
- Included LTE with Slacker streaming. No radio commercials. (Though owners post July 1 only get 1 year free).

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Owners: Your experience so far

Post by PhilosophyAndrew » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:56 pm

1. Was it worth the money? Yes.

2. Months of ownership so far? Delivered 6/1, so 3 months (slightly over 5,000 miles).

3. Still positive, negative or somewhere in between (say on a 1-5 scale, 5 being very positive / happy). 5.

4. Any big issues / surprises? Nope.

5. What was the first issue you had that need some sort of service? N/A

6. 2-3 things you like the most. Fun torque. No range anxiety. Cool interior aesthetic.



My wife adores her Model 3. Biggest negatives to me are external — Elon musk seems batty and the company may not survive.

Andy.

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Owners: Your experience so far

Post by harikaried » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:13 pm

> 1. Was it worth the money?
At least on a spent-so-far-per-day basis, I would guess most consumer purchases aren't worth $15k/day. :shock:

> 2. Months of ownership so far
0.15 months

> 3. Still positive, negative or somewhere in between (say on a 1-5 scale, 5 being very positive / happy).
The vehicle hardware and software have been mostly great, so 4.5? Some things we're still figuring out, e.g., do we want walk away lock if older phone is not consistently connecting as a key, different driving behavior (no-creep, chill acceleration, etc.)

> 4. Any big issues / surprises
Pre-/during/post-delivery experience could be better, but some of it might be caused by California laws and out-of-state registration and plate transfer requirements. In particular, we were only notified that we needed to get several notarized signatures for power of attorney in less than 48 hours before weekend delivery while we were traveling out of the country, and afterwards, it seems like this urgency wasn't even needed as additional post-delivery documents are needed before PoA could be used anyway.

> 5. What was the first issue you had that need some sort of service
N/A. (Although there was a very minor finish / assembly issue that was easily fixed.)

> 6. 2-3 things you like the most.
- charging up at home (30-minute detour to refuel our ICE vehicle feels like a huge hassle now even less than a week of owning an EV)
- autopilot works surprisingly well (in the first drive home from pick up, got to experience smooth highway, 2-vehicle-ahead radar early deceleration, stop-n-go highway, and more!)
- streaming radio (we listen mostly to podcasts, and it was a pleasant surprise to have a nice interface to access them all -- at least I didn't know about the feature ahead of time)
- automatic garage opening and closing (easy to pair homelink and adjust distance settings)
- easy phone charging (drop in to "dock" is very convenient, although it would have been nice to get 2 USB-C cables)
- chill acceleration (much easier to get smooth acceleration than accidentally jerking forwards in the Forester)
- quiet acceleration (surprisingly every time we hear a noisy vehicle pass by makes us appreciate the lack of noise even more)

Edit: Added some items from wife
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Re: Tesla Model 3 Owners: Your experience so far

Post by Millennial » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:13 pm

1. Too soon to tell. With state and federal credits the car will be $42,000. This is certainly more than we'd hoped for (when we reserved, we were hoping to the the $35k car with the federal credit). When it became clear we'd be getting the SR with half or no credit, we decided to go for the LR.

2. Approaching one

3. 4-4.5, I'd say. The car is truly incredible. It feels very well made, drives exceptionally well, and it is, by far, the fastest car I've ever owned.

4. Not exactly surprises, but I am still disappointed that you need EAP to get TACC (my VW Golf has this!). And the phone integration is complete crap.

5. None yet

6.
- We have a total of 8 free municipal charging stations (J1772, 30A) within 10 minutes' walk of our house, so we have paid exactly $0.00 to charge the car so far. Feels nice when billing miles at $0.545 for work.
- It is really fast. I have an old Audi S6 which is similar in HP and weight, at least on paper. The 3 is so much quicker. It's really astounding. Highway merges, pulling into traffic... it's just effortless. By the time you think of a speed you want the car to go, it seems to have already (silently) arrived at that speed.
- The center screen was very easy to adjust to, and I don't miss the full dash or buttons at all.

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Owners: Your experience so far

Post by InvestoGuy » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:39 pm

Since I am the OP, would like to conclude the thread, as follows:

Thank you all for your responses. I am a happy Model 3 owner as well, have had the car for about 3 weeks now. My feedback as follows:

> 1. Was it worth the money?
Yes totally. The $7500 federal tax refund and I also get a $4500 rebate from my local utility company gives me a 20% discount on the car. That is awesome and makes it totally worth it.

> 2. Months of ownership so far
Almost a month.

> 3. Still positive, negative or somewhere in between (say on a 1-5 scale, 5 being very positive / happy).
5. Amazing vehicle.

> 4. Any big issues / surprises
Not really. Didn't realize we (me and wife) both would like it so much.

> 5. What was the first issue you had that need some sort of service
N/A.

> 6. 2-3 things you like the most.
- Quiet ride
- Acceleration
- Huge gas savings (even after factoring the utility bill)
- Amazing s/w and technology

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Owners: Your experience so far

Post by mewantcookiez » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:13 am

Did any of you bother with the performance package? Seems pretty steep at 10k.

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Owners: Your experience so far

Post by InvestoGuy » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:19 am

No, I did not. I got the 'base' version, which is Long Range and RWD. It is pretty good, as is.

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Post by alfaspider » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:35 am

mewantcookiez wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:13 am
Did any of you bother with the performance package? Seems pretty steep at 10k.
It's equivalent to the difference between the BMW 340i and the M3. You already know if the difference is meaningful to you.

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Owners: Your experience so far

Post by bgf » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:50 am

InvestoGuy wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:39 pm

> 1. Was it worth the money?
Yes totally. The $7500 federal tax refund and I also get a $4500 rebate from my local utility company gives me a 20% discount on the car. That is awesome and makes it totally worth it.
WOW. $12000 subsidy it better be great value!!
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Re: Tesla Model 3 Owners: Your experience so far

Post by InvestoGuy » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:59 am

bgf wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:50 am
InvestoGuy wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:39 pm

> 1. Was it worth the money?
Yes totally. The $7500 federal tax refund and I also get a $4500 rebate from my local utility company gives me a 20% discount on the car. That is awesome and makes it totally worth it.
WOW. $12000 subsidy it better be great value!!
Yes, 20% off list price. Was a great deal, overall. Too bad the federal tax rebate for Tesla reduces next year.

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Owners: Your experience so far

Post by harikaried » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:25 am

Oh, in terms of value, it looks like we saved $2700 by ordering and picking up the AWD early. If I try to configure the same vehicle today, AWD is +$2000, paint is +$500, destination/doc is +$200. That's more than 4% discount off the current price for pretty much the same vehicle manufactured 1 month ago.

Fortunate for us, but I wonder if people will become wary of Tesla's unexpected changes. Generally in the past, changes have been associated with hardware changes too, so perhaps it's too early to tell if anything is different with the vehicles made in the coming months. (One could probably guess Tesla did make changes as they're always constantly making adjustments instead of doing the "model year refresh.")

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Post by Working2notWork » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:41 am

I test drove the 3 and have been on the list since the first night we were able to put our names down.

Unfortunately, I'm an old dog and I like my gauges right under the wheel without having to take my eyes off the road. I also did not like how small my rear-view and side mirrors were going to be. When test driving, I found a TONNE of blind spots. I also found that the blind-spot detectors did not do a good job indicating when a car was approaching from the rear.

My wife also found the backseats very uncomfortable, although she/we did like how stain resistant the material was (marine based fabric).

It was a fun car to drive and hugged the road, but I cannot justify 60K+ for it.

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Post by RollTide31457 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:22 am

Test drove one. Not impressed. Got a F150 instead.

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Owners: Your experience so far

Post by Working2notWork » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:47 am

RollTide31457 wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:22 am
Test drove one. Not impressed. Got a F150 instead.
It's hard to be un-impressed by the car. More than anything, I'm impressed with Tesla's ability to have people pay _that_ price.

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Post by eye.surgeon » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:58 am

For perspective on long-term reliability, I've had my Model S (not 3) for 3.75 years. it's been very reliable. I have never personally been to a service center. Gas savings alone are double my insurance and registration costs annually.
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Post by Nate79 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:03 am

eye.surgeon wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:58 am
For perspective on long-term reliability, I've had my Model S (not 3) for 3.75 years. it's been very reliable. I have never personally been to a service center.

As far as price, it's cost of ownership not price that is the issue. Surprised how many otherwise financially savvy people focus on purchase price.I've spent zero dollars on service the whole time I've owned it. First and only service was paid for with a PG&E credit I received same month. Gas savings alone are double the insurance and registration costs annually.
Purchase price (as depreciation) is the primary cost of ownership for cars.

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Owners: Your experience so far

Post by eye.surgeon » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:06 am

Nate79 wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:03 am
eye.surgeon wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:58 am
For perspective on long-term reliability, I've had my Model S (not 3) for 3.75 years. it's been very reliable. I have never personally been to a service center.

As far as price, it's cost of ownership not price that is the issue. Surprised how many otherwise financially savvy people focus on purchase price.I've spent zero dollars on service the whole time I've owned it. First and only service was paid for with a PG&E credit I received same month. Gas savings alone are double the insurance and registration costs annually.
Purchase price (as depreciation) is the primary cost of ownership for cars.
Agreed but Model 3 has no depreciation history. One can presume it will have decent depreciation in it's price class, as the Model S has. Still not the car for you if lowest cost of ownership is the top priority obviously.
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Post by Working2notWork » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:08 am

Nate79 wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:03 am
Purchase price (as depreciation) is the primary cost of ownership for cars.
Can you explain what you mean by this?

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Post by Nate79 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:28 am

Working2notWork wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:08 am
Nate79 wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:03 am
Purchase price (as depreciation) is the primary cost of ownership for cars.
Can you explain what you mean by this?
Depreciation (loss of value of the car which is highly related to purchase price) is about 40-50% of the annual cost of ownership in the first ~5 years.

https://newsroom.aaa.com/2015/04/annual ... a-archive/

https://sites.google.com/a/uncc.edu/for ... -ownership

(these are a couple of websites I could find that had good graphics in a quick search). This is not specific to Tesla but just general statement.

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Owners: Your experience so far

Post by Starfish » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:27 pm

Isn't obviuos to everybody that cars cost a lot and depreciate fast especially in the first years but gas is not that expensive?

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Post by madbrain » Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:32 am

Nate79 wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:03 am
eye.surgeon wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:58 am
For perspective on long-term reliability, I've had my Model S (not 3) for 3.75 years. it's been very reliable. I have never personally been to a service center.

As far as price, it's cost of ownership not price that is the issue. Surprised how many otherwise financially savvy people focus on purchase price.I've spent zero dollars on service the whole time I've owned it. First and only service was paid for with a PG&E credit I received same month. Gas savings alone are double the insurance and registration costs annually.
Purchase price (as depreciation) is the primary cost of ownership for cars.
That is certainly true for new cars, but not as much for used cars. If you keep the car long enough, you could easily pay more in maintenance / insurance / gas on a used car than the purchase price of the vehicle.

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Post by madbrain » Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:38 am

Starfish wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:27 pm
Isn't obviuos to everybody that cars cost a lot and depreciate fast especially in the first years but gas is not that expensive?
If you keep a car long enough, it has poor mileage, and you drive it a lot, the cost of gas could conceivably nearly match the purchase price.
For example, a Ford F150 with a 17/23 mpg gas mileage - let's call it 20 - driven for 200,000 miles would take 10,000 gallons, costing about $40,000 in gas depending on where you live. Whereas the Tesla could cost you $0 in electricity if your employer provides free charging (mine does, but I don't drive a Tesla - Chevy Volt and Bolt).

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Post by 4nursebee » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:52 am

I wish the discussion would be kept to those that own the car and their experience thus far instead of digressing as many other Tesla subjects have/do.

Thank you.
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Post by hoops777 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:52 pm

madbrain wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:38 am
Starfish wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:27 pm
Isn't obviuos to everybody that cars cost a lot and depreciate fast especially in the first years but gas is not that expensive?
If you keep a car long enough, it has poor mileage, and you drive it a lot, the cost of gas could conceivably nearly match the purchase price.
For example, a Ford F150 with a 17/23 mpg gas mileage - let's call it 20 - driven for 200,000 miles would take 10,000 gallons, costing about $40,000 in gas depending on where you live. Whereas the Tesla could cost you $0 in electricity if your employer provides free charging (mine does, but I don't drive a Tesla - Chevy Volt and Bolt).
Excellent point.It is also nice if you have solar at your home.
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Post by madbrain » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:26 pm

hoops777 wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:52 pm
madbrain wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:38 am
Starfish wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:27 pm
Isn't obviuos to everybody that cars cost a lot and depreciate fast especially in the first years but gas is not that expensive?
If you keep a car long enough, it has poor mileage, and you drive it a lot, the cost of gas could conceivably nearly match the purchase price.
For example, a Ford F150 with a 17/23 mpg gas mileage - let's call it 20 - driven for 200,000 miles would take 10,000 gallons, costing about $40,000 in gas depending on where you live. Whereas the Tesla could cost you $0 in electricity if your employer provides free charging (mine does, but I don't drive a Tesla - Chevy Volt and Bolt).
Excellent point.It is also nice if you have solar at your home.
Yes, but you would have to account for the cost of your solar PV system at home still. Even if you already have solar, adding an EV will likely require expanding that PV system, at least if your system was previously sized properly for your home alone. I did all the math for our EVs and solar in this post :
viewtopic.php?t=257991#p4104113
At this time, our system is properly sized for the home + 1 EV. Employer provides free charging for one of the 2 EVs.

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Post by roflwaffle » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:39 pm

1. So far so good, but I'll let you know in a decade.
2. 4 months.
3. I'm a 4.5, and that's only because of the cost.
4. No issues so far, knock on bamboo laminate.
5. We haven't need to service it yet.
6. The car drives extremely well, a select few Superchargers are free, and the it's extremely efficient and comfortable.

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Post by Big Dog » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:47 pm

1. Yes and yes (have 2)
2. 5 months and 1 month
3. 5, 5
4. No, No
5. None; license plate bracket screw stripped. Sevice Center sent out a mobile unit to fix at home. On time, and took 10 minutes.

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