Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by letsgobobby » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:16 pm

maroon wrote: โ†‘
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I own an older Subaru Forester with > 100K miles. I recently spent $750 on a timing belt replacement so probably will keep the car 'til it dies.

Who else has a high mileage vehicle that's used as a daily driver? What type of vehicle is it, and how do you decide when to sell it? Do you buy another car whenever you want one, or when your existing car hits a mileage / age limit, or when the cost of repairs becomes prohibitive?
This is Bogleheads so I believe many of us do. Mine has 200k.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by tony_roach » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:45 pm

Daily driver of 2001 Nissan Xterra I've owned since purchasing it brand new. I drove it until 250K miles with original engine and transmission. Did most general maintenance myself (oil, brakes, fluids, brakes, battery) and had mechanic do alternator and timing belts. I had to finally let it go this past February because of multiple severe power steering leaks which could have been repaired but would cost too much (entire replacement). Traded it in for a used 2011 Xterra and will attempt to get as many miles on this one as my original.

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Post by lazydavid » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:42 pm

Traded my 2000 BMW 3-series at 12 years/158k miles on a 2011 3-series, which is currently at 90k. Planning on keeping it another 6 years or so.
Just traded my wife's 2007 Lexus RX350 at 12 years/170k miles. Planning to keep the replacement 2018 Audi Q7 for around 12 years.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by dknightd » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:49 pm

I shoot for 20 years. Around here rust is the enemy

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by j0nnyg1984 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:18 pm

2005 Silverado with 197k. I do all of my own maintenance which really stretches the buck and allows me to keep a vehicle to its full potential. I have no plans of getting rid of this beast. I just did a ton of work on it and it's running better than ever.

I need a new O2 sensor and / or catalytic converter which I can't / won't do myself.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by miden851 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:11 pm

Mine โ€˜08 Mazda6i is well over 202k miles now, and itโ€™s still going strong; I bought it as a post-rental car back in 2010 at a discount price, of course

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by Big Dog » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:19 pm

just donated (last week) my '89 Volvo Turbo; had 225k miles on it. (Tranny was starting to have problems with upshift.)

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by srt7 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:36 pm

200K miles in under 10 years? 25K+ per year?

How does one put so many miles?
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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by squirm » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:52 pm

We probably drive more than most folks here, about 40K miles per year. Most of it's on our Accord. We'll keep it for another year, by then it'll be about 170K. We could keep it longer I guess, but I'll probably buy another two year old car, like I did with our Accord. I don't do a mountain of research on which car or put everything in Quicken, blah blah blah, I'll probably just go with another Accord or Camry or whatever enters my mind at the time. We can easily afford a car every few years, I don't care to try and milk it for every last cent. I carpool with my wife and she's fine with whatever I decide to buy. If we didn't carpool I guess we'd be doing 65K-70K miles per year. But we've been carpooling for 15 years.

As I said in another post, we don't get any joy out of driving, most of it is commute traffic and just trying to stay safe. Thankfully I carpool with my wife so we get time to talk (until some snot rag darts out in front then she gets to hear me yell every swear word in the book). I fix the cars if they need it and keep them clean. The car is just to get from here to there safely and efficiently and nothing more. Unlike some others I don't gauge anyone from the type of car they drive, you're not more important if you drive a new high end luxury car or a old little beater mobile.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by JenniferG » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:39 am

Proud cheapskate with a short commute ๐Ÿ˜
Early 90s Nissan with >175k and it just wonโ€™t die...and tbh Iโ€™m kind of attached. I plan to buy a new (to me) car when when I hit a certain financial milestone. In the meantime, I treat myself to luxury rentals when I travel.
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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by daheld » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:15 am

100,000 miles? It's just about broken in. Should be good for another 200,000.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by XtremeSki2001 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:53 am

Nissanzx1 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:55 am
My daily has 264K. No plans to upgrade. I Fund $300/mo in car account and if something comes up we are covered.
Just started to do the $300/mo in hopes of paying cash for a used car down the road. I thought it would be tight, but seeing everyone with 200k+ on their car I guess I've got time. My two cars:

2012 Ford Focus - 100k
2012 Honda Odyssey - 60k
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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by lazydavid » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:49 am

XtremeSki2001 wrote: โ†‘
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:53 am
Just started to do the $300/mo in hopes of paying cash for a used car down the road. I thought it would be tight, but seeing everyone with 200k+ on their car I guess I've got time. My two cars:
We don't make specific "car payments" to ourselves, but throw a certain amount every paycheck into a "slush fund" at Wealthfront for which car replacement is one of the valid uses (two 401ks are fully funded, so this is just "extra" savings). Just two weeks ago, we bought a new car using about 3x the amount we have put in so far in 2018. We should be able to put that money back over the next 18 months or so. Since we're probably about 6 years out from buying another car (have 2, keep them about 12 years and stagger them), this works fine for us.

The risk of having it invested vs. in a bank account is non-zero, but the return over time should more than negate that. Had the market crashed right before we were buying, we would have either postponed the purchase, or financed at a low rate and taken the monthly payment out of the biweekly contributions to this account.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by Nissanzx1 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:37 pm

XtremeSki2001 wrote: โ†‘
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:53 am
Nissanzx1 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:55 am
My daily has 264K. No plans to upgrade. I Fund $300/mo in car account and if something comes up we are covered.
Just started to do the $300/mo in hopes of paying cash for a used car down the road. I thought it would be tight, but seeing everyone with 200k+ on their car I guess I've got time. My two cars:

2012 Ford Focus - 100k
2012 Honda Odyssey - 60k
Each of these will probably run another 8-10 years if maintained. Well done.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by XtremeSki2001 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:13 pm

lazydavid wrote: โ†‘
Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:49 am
Since we're probably about 6 years out from buying another car (have 2, keep them about 12 years and stagger them), this works fine for us.
This is key. When my now wife and I met .... we got married and both of us needed new cars. Bought them both at once - those monthly payments hurt!
Nissanzx1 wrote: โ†‘
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XtremeSki2001 wrote: โ†‘
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:53 am
Just started to do the $300/mo in hopes of paying cash for a used car down the road. I thought it would be tight, but seeing everyone with 200k+ on their car I guess I've got time. My two cars:

2012 Ford Focus - 100k
2012 Honda Odyssey - 60k
Each of these will probably run another 8-10 years if maintained. Well done.
Best part ... my car will be up for replacement first :beer
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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by lazydavid » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:03 pm

XtremeSki2001 wrote: โ†‘
Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:13 pm
This is key. When my now wife and I met .... we got married and both of us needed new cars. Bought them both at once - those monthly payments hurt!
When we met, we both had brand-new 2000's. Wound up replacing hers early, in 2007, when we were expecting because there was no practical/easy way to get a car seat in the back of her convertible. Replaced mine in 2011 and got us to the nice offset we're at now.
XtremeSki2001 wrote: โ†‘
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Best part ... my car will be up for replacement first :beer
Yeah, that part didn't quite work out for me. Apparently the one we just bought is "my car", that she'll be driving for the next 6 or so years, until my actual car gets handed down to our son, and then she gets to buy "her car".

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by Watty » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:58 pm

One thing that has not been mentioned is that if you have kids then when they are ready to learn to dive it is good to have a car that is appropriate for them to learn to drive on.

This can be a some combination of it being safe enough that your feel comfortable with them driving it, and not so expensive that you would feel uncomfortable with them driving it.

When my son was in high school we let my son have my wife's old car with around 100k miles and she then got the next car. The car lasted him through college and a year or so after college.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by Sandi_k » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:12 pm

srt7 wrote: โ†‘
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200K miles in under 10 years? 25K+ per year?

How does one put so many miles?
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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by GreatLaker » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:31 pm

To me it depends on the nature of the daily drive. If your car breaks down in big city traffic or a freeway you call a tow truck or wait for one of the highway vultures to show up, while hundreds of motorists drive by honking their horn and making rude gestures. If your daily drive is in a small town or lightly travelled roads near repair facilities a breakdown is not so much of an issue... you just call a buddy with a truck and a rope to tow you home.

I had a '94 Honda Civic that I sold in 2012 with 155k miles. A lot of that was big city traffic, freeways and remote highway driving where the consequences of a breakdown would have been a big headache, so it was time for something newer. That vehicle is still on the road doing daily duty in a small town.
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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by Nate79 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:21 pm

milo minderbinder wrote: โ†‘
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Forresters from 2009 to 2013 or so have a defect resulting in all kinds of engines leaks at around 140,000 miles. Our 2009 died at an early death at 150,000 miles.
I'm sorry but this is not true. The 2011 Forester engine was totally redesigned and has nothing in common with the 2010 and previous generations.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by Olemiss540 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:15 pm

j0nnyg1984 wrote: โ†‘
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2005 Silverado with 197k. I do all of my own maintenance which really stretches the buck and allows me to keep a vehicle to its full potential. I have no plans of getting rid of this beast. I just did a ton of work on it and it's running better than ever.

I need a new O2 sensor and / or catalytic converter which I can't / won't do myself.
Just did an O2 sensor on my Chevy, took all of 6 minutes. Just have the code scanned to see which bank is throwing a code and buy the appropriate O2 socket AND wrench to see which gets a better angle on it.
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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by Starfish » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:16 pm

I had a Honda Civic until it reached 170k.
The transmission broke and took the clutch with it, so I was looking at ~4k bill. I sold the car for 700$.
If you don't want maintenance costs chose a car with a transmission chain. A lot of them are like this nowadays (including my Honda Civic).

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by Starfish » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:18 pm

srt7 wrote: โ†‘
Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:36 pm
200K miles in under 10 years? 25K+ per year?

How does one put so many miles?

100 miles of commute plus weekend trips. It's pretty normal.
I had a 100 mile commute for 5 years. Now is 64 miles.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by iamlucky13 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:42 pm

2002 Civic, currently at 218,000 miles.

I do not intend to keep it until it dies, because reliability is important to me. So far, it has had no reliability problems. There's a couple minor issues I will keep an eye on as I contemplate when it will be time to replace it, but I don't have current plans to do so.

I could see spending up to ~$1000 on it if a major issue does come up, as long as I was reasonably confident the repair would give me another 20,000 miles / 2 years use or more.

Much worse of a bill than that, and the allure of a newer vehicle will probably win.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by neilpilot » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:56 pm

Starfish wrote: โ†‘
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:16 pm
I had a Honda Civic until it reached 170k.
The transmission broke and took the clutch with it, so I was looking at ~4k bill. I sold the car for 700$.
If you don't want maintenance costs chose a car with a transmission chain. A lot of them are like this nowadays (including my Honda Civic).
A "transmission chain"? I'd assume your are referring to a timing belt and a timing chain, except a broken timing belt shouldn't break a tranny or take out a clutch. So I guess your post leaves me wondering what really occurred.

Of course the older Honda Civics had timing belts that were supposed to be replaced, at a maximum, at 105k miles, well before your issue at 170k.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by maroon » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:01 pm

Hi, OP here. This has been a fun thread to read; thank you all for the comments!

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by Starfish » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:16 am

neilpilot wrote: โ†‘
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:56 pm
Starfish wrote: โ†‘
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:16 pm
I had a Honda Civic until it reached 170k.
The transmission broke and took the clutch with it, so I was looking at ~4k bill. I sold the car for 700$.
If you don't want maintenance costs chose a car with a transmission chain. A lot of them are like this nowadays (including my Honda Civic).
A "transmission chain"? I'd assume your are referring to a timing belt and a timing chain, except a broken timing belt shouldn't break a tranny or take out a clutch. So I guess your post leaves me wondering what really occurred.

Of course the older Honda Civics had timing belts that were supposed to be replaced, at a maximum, at 105k miles, well before your issue at 170k.
My bad, I obviously meant timing chain.
2006 Honda Civic has a chain. Previous models had a transmission belt.

This is a completely separate discussion from the transmission issue. My transmission broke, the timing chain had no issue. I mentioned the timing chain because there were some posts above about it.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by ddurrett896 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:37 am

gold99xx wrote: โ†‘
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2006 Toyota Landcruiser
Miles 100K
I expect the car to last at least another 10 years.
Most of the small parts are rated for plus 250K miles
The larger stuff ( engine, body, etc) are rated for plus 500K miles

Change oil on time and rotate // change tires and you are good to go.

This is my third LC, I have made it to 350K on another one when boredom won out...
I'm a loyal 4runner owner and contemplated the Landcruiser because of the above. It's the Boglehead vehicle!

My only gripe is the price. It's twice the price of the 4runner and lasts twice as long. Change my mind - I want one!

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by bubbadog » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:57 am

ddurrett896 wrote: โ†‘
Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:37 am
gold99xx wrote: โ†‘
Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:15 pm
2006 Toyota Landcruiser
Miles 100K
I expect the car to last at least another 10 years.
Most of the small parts are rated for plus 250K miles
The larger stuff ( engine, body, etc) are rated for plus 500K miles

Change oil on time and rotate // change tires and you are good to go.

This is my third LC, I have made it to 350K on another one when boredom won out...
I'm a loyal 4runner owner and contemplated the Landcruiser because of the above. It's the Boglehead vehicle!

My only gripe is the price. It's twice the price of the 4runner and lasts twice as long. Change my mind - I want one!
ddurrett896

You may want to check out IH8MUD.com.

It is a great resource for Land Cruiser folks with a classified section.

New LCs are pricey but used is probably the way to go.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by Nissanzx1 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:01 am

Starfish wrote: โ†‘
Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:16 am
neilpilot wrote: โ†‘
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:56 pm
Starfish wrote: โ†‘
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:16 pm
I had a Honda Civic until it reached 170k.
The transmission broke and took the clutch with it, so I was looking at ~4k bill. I sold the car for 700$.
If you don't want maintenance costs chose a car with a transmission chain. A lot of them are like this nowadays (including my Honda Civic).
A "transmission chain"? I'd assume your are referring to a timing belt and a timing chain, except a broken timing belt shouldn't break a tranny or take out a clutch. So I guess your post leaves me wondering what really occurred.

Of course the older Honda Civics had timing belts that were supposed to be replaced, at a maximum, at 105k miles, well before your issue at 170k.
In order to keep cars into the high miles, money has to be spent on the maintenance. Automatic transmissions are as expensive as engines. Fluids must be changed according to manufacturer or better if said manufacturer has the BS "fill for life." Timing belts must be changed on cars with belts. I'm a stickler for the maintenance, if you aren't- owning a high mileage car will bring pain.

My bad, I obviously meant timing chain.
2006 Honda Civic has a chain. Previous models had a transmission belt.

This is a completely separate discussion from the transmission issue. My transmission broke, the timing chain had no issue. I mentioned the timing chain because there were some posts above about it.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by sunny_socal » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:25 am

In order to keep cars into the high miles, money has to be spent on the maintenance. Automatic transmissions are as expensive as engines. Fluids must be changed according to manufacturer or better if said manufacturer has the BS "fill for life." Timing belts must be changed on cars with belts. I'm a stickler for the maintenance, if you aren't- owning a high mileage car will bring pain.
This is true and is also the reason many choose not to own a high mileage car. When the transmission breaks it becomes a "the wheels fell off my car" moment and they move on.

I've never had an automatic transmission fail but I also drain & fill the ATF every 15k miles. (This is not a full flush, just a few quarts of fluid.) Change out brake fluid when it's dark. Replace pads when they are worn. Oil changes on schedule. Replace ball joints and shocks when they are worn.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by RegDunlopCPA » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:37 am

I drive a 2004 GMC Yukon Denali XL with 189,000 miles to the transit park and ride stop everyday. Change the oil, a few minor maintenance items and it's been great. Except my alternator crapped out in the middle of the dryer at a car wash in June with about 10 cars behind me so there's that. :oops: that was probably my fault for not changing it soon enough. Did that alt. myself in the driveway and saved $500 in dealership labor/parts.

I did just recently got a "service air bag" warning and tried to have the ODB port read out a service code but there's no power to the port, therefore no readout. I'm a little nervous about what it wil cost to have this air bag warning check out. :shock:

Otherwise it runs like a champ and I hope to get 250k out of it.

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Post by NextMil » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:29 am

120k miles german luxury auto. I have a great mechanic that said to dump it when it hits 150k because that is when the real problems start. I love the new lease culture. People are getting out of cars with such low mileage these days that its easy to snag something for thousands less that are not even broken in yet.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by tadamsmar » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:39 am

maroon wrote: โ†‘
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I own an older Subaru Forester with > 100K miles. I recently spent $750 on a timing belt replacement so probably will keep the car 'til it dies.

Who else has a high mileage vehicle that's used as a daily driver? What type of vehicle is it, and how do you decide when to sell it? Do you buy another car whenever you want one, or when your existing car hits a mileage / age limit, or when the cost of repairs becomes prohibitive?
I put a quarter of a million on a Nissan Sentra and it failed only because I did not check the radiator water or something like that. Overheated aluminum motor.

There is a book called Drive It Forever that claims that an engine's lifespan is measured in the number of cold starts, not the number of miles.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by iamlucky13 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:28 pm

Starfish wrote: โ†‘
Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:16 am
My bad, I obviously meant timing chain.
2006 Honda Civic has a chain. Previous models had a transmission belt.
It is a major potential point of failure, but if changed on schedule, should not be an issue. A $500 maintenance item every 100,000 miles or so is a relatively minor concern in my book.
tadamsmar wrote: โ†‘
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There is a book called Drive It Forever that claims that an engine's lifespan is measured in the number of cold starts, not the number of miles.
It's more complicated than that, but starts can be as significant of a factor as mileage. How you drive is also a major factor - high cylinder pressures and high RPM's also increase wear.

And manufacturing variability will affect life, too.
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I did just recently got a "service air bag" warning and tried to have the ODB port read out a service code but there's no power to the port, therefore no readout. I'm a little nervous about what it wil cost to have this air bag warning check out. :shock:
Did you turn the key to the "on" position? Some code readers prompt you to do this, but I don't think all of them do.

On my Honda, there is no ODB codes for airbag issues. Instead, I had to look up a procedure on the Honda forums (originally taken from the OEM service manual, I think) of unplugging a specific wiring harness, jumpering a couple pins on the connector closed and open in a certain sequence, and counting the number of flashes the airbag light makes.

Just a heads up in case the troubleshooting for GMC airbag issues involves similar.

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Post by bgf » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:34 pm

maroon wrote: โ†‘
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I own an older Subaru Forester with > 100K miles. I recently spent $750 on a timing belt replacement so probably will keep the car 'til it dies.

Who else has a high mileage vehicle that's used as a daily driver? What type of vehicle is it, and how do you decide when to sell it? Do you buy another car whenever you want one, or when your existing car hits a mileage / age limit, or when the cost of repairs becomes prohibitive?
my wife drives a 2005 honda accord with like 130k. new tires and all maintenance performed. runs great. we'll sell it if/when we have a second child and would like a larger vehicle. i've already been rolling over in my mind whether to buy in cash or finance, depending on the kind of rate i can get. would like to shoot for something used around $20k.
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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by RegDunlopCPA » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:34 pm

RegDunlopCPA wrote: โ†‘
Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:37 am
I did just recently got a "service air bag" warning and tried to have the ODB port read out a service code but there's no power to the port, therefore no readout. I'm a little nervous about what it wil cost to have this air bag warning check out. :shock:
Did you turn the key to the "on" position? Some code readers prompt you to do this, but I don't think all of them do.

On my Honda, there is no ODB codes for airbag issues. Instead, I had to look up a procedure on the Honda forums (originally taken from the OEM service manual, I think) of unplugging a specific wiring harness, jumpering a couple pins on the connector closed and open in a certain sequence, and counting the number of flashes the airbag light makes.

Just a heads up in case the troubleshooting for GMC airbag issues involves similar.
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Yes I did turn the key to the on position but no luck from multiple different code readers. Thanks for the tip. I've heard that it could just be an airbag indicator that needs to be reset by a dealership every so many year or miles, however it gets trigger.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by GAAP » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:39 pm

Just changed after 375,000 miles and 24 years. My wife changed last year after about 350,000 miles and 18 years -- but we gave that old vehicle to my daughter.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by randomguy » Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:22 pm

iamlucky13 wrote: โ†‘
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There is a book called Drive It Forever that claims that an engine's lifespan is measured in the number of cold starts, not the number of miles.
It's more complicated than that, but starts can be as significant of a factor as mileage. How you drive is also a major factor - high cylinder pressures and high RPM's also increase wear.

And manufacturing variability will affect life, too.

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It is a bit of simplification for sure but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that cold starts are a better measure. Getting on a highway and driving 60 mph for an hour, racks up the miles but isn't big in engine wear compared to say doing 60 miles of errands around town over 4 hours. Same thing for things like brake wear. Cranking out 200k miles over 5 or 6 years (i.e. the person with 50 mile+ one way commutes) is a lot different than doing it over 25 years.

These days 10 years/120k miles (which every comes first) tend to pretty low cost (i.e. just normal maintenance). After it gets more interesting. Next time your driving around try and count how many 20 year old cars (knowing your civic/accord/camry body styles is the easy way in my area) you see. It isn't very many.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by ray.james » Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:45 pm

GAAP wrote: โ†‘
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Just changed after 375,000 miles and 24 years. My wife changed last year after about 350,000 miles and 18 years -- but we gave that old vehicle to my daughter.
That is crazy reliability! Can you share what models are these.
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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by GAAP » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:55 pm

ray.james wrote: โ†‘
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GAAP wrote: โ†‘
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Just changed after 375,000 miles and 24 years. My wife changed last year after about 350,000 miles and 18 years -- but we gave that old vehicle to my daughter.
That is crazy reliability! Can you share what models are these.
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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by White Coat Investor » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:10 pm

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I own an older Subaru Forester with > 100K miles. I recently spent $750 on a timing belt replacement so probably will keep the car 'til it dies.

Who else has a high mileage vehicle that's used as a daily driver? What type of vehicle is it, and how do you decide when to sell it? Do you buy another car whenever you want one, or when your existing car hits a mileage / age limit, or when the cost of repairs becomes prohibitive?
Toyota Sequoia 219K

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by Dakotah » Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:00 pm

2010 Prius with ~78k miles on it. My new commute will be extremely short (may actually bike on some days)...so I expect to have this car for a very long time. The only thing about a new car that tempts me is the "infotainment" aspect. If I could find a way to get Android Auto in there...I would do it.

Wife has a 2005 Ford Escape with 135k. It was driven hard in its early years. It has several repairs that should be done...to the tune of ~$3000. Awaiting the 2019 SUV releases to begin shopping for a potential replacement. We have our eyes on the new RAV4 Hybrid, or the Forrester.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by IntangibleAssets » Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:44 pm

Been there a few times:

1996 Camry (sold @123K)
2001 4Runner (Sold @160K - Still regret that, best Car I ever had, easy to maintain)
2004 - RX330 Current- 91K still a baby.

As I'm getting older and with kids, I'm actually much more interested in pursing incremental upgrades for safety (additional airbags, BSM, crumple zones, etc.)

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by dm200 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:07 am

H-Town wrote: โ†‘
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maroon wrote: โ†‘
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I own an older Subaru Forester with > 100K miles. I recently spent $750 on a timing belt replacement so probably will keep the car 'til it dies.

Who else has a high mileage vehicle that's used as a daily driver? What type of vehicle is it, and how do you decide when to sell it? Do you buy another car whenever you want one, or when your existing car hits a mileage / age limit, or when the cost of repairs becomes prohibitive?
100k? I crossed that mark a while ago. Not a big deal. I'm aiming for 300k as I'm averaging 20-25k miles a year.

I don't need advance tech stuff. They're distracting and easy to break down after 5 years.
I tend to agree - as well. I wish I could still have a small car with manual roll up and down windows and unpowered locks - but they don't exist.

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Re: Daily Driver (Car) Over 100K Miles?

Post by milo minderbinder » Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:06 pm

Nate79 wrote: โ†‘
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Forresters from 2009 to 2013 or so have a defect resulting in all kinds of engines leaks at around 140,000 miles. Our 2009 died at an early death at 150,000 miles.
I'm sorry but this is not true. The 2011 Forester engine was totally redesigned and has nothing in common with the 2010 and previous generations.
Hence the "or so" in my post.

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