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New roof - does this ridge vent look right?

Post by Triple digit golfer » Tue May 29, 2018 11:57 am

Hi all. I had a new roof put on my house last month and I have some major concerns on the ridge vent. I know very little about roofing and less about ridge vents, but it does not look right to me. I would think, but am not sure, that the vent would be flush with the roof all the way across and now bowed. I expressed my concerns and had the roofing company come out two different times to take a look and both times they said it is properly installed. However, I have my doubts. I just don't see why each piece would be bowed.

What do you all think?

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Post by lthenderson » Tue May 29, 2018 12:15 pm

I'm not familiar with that type of ridge roof venting but it looks to me as if someone stepped on it. It may still function correctly and may have been installed right but it certainly looks ugly. I would probably threaten to file a claim with the state Better Business Bureau if they didn't make it look better.

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Post by Triple digit golfer » Tue May 29, 2018 12:16 pm

lthenderson wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 12:15 pm
I'm not familiar with that type of ridge roof venting but it looks to me as if someone stepped on it. It may still function correctly and may have been installed right but it certainly looks ugly. I would probably threaten to file a claim with the state Better Business Bureau if they didn't make it look better.
It looks like that all the way across. They are I believe 4 foot pieces, and all of them bow, all the way across the roof.

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Post by Pajamas » Tue May 29, 2018 12:22 pm

Triple digit golfer wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 12:16 pm
. . . all of them bow, all the way across the roof.
I wonder what it will look like in a few years.

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Post by lthenderson » Tue May 29, 2018 12:22 pm

Triple digit golfer wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 12:16 pm
lthenderson wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 12:15 pm
I'm not familiar with that type of ridge roof venting but it looks to me as if someone stepped on it. It may still function correctly and may have been installed right but it certainly looks ugly. I would probably threaten to file a claim with the state Better Business Bureau if they didn't make it look better.
It looks like that all the way across. They are I believe 4 foot pieces, and all of them bow, all the way across the roof.
Just guessing here, but since they were in 4 feet pieces, they were probably meant to begin and end on standard 16" standard spacing intervals and whomever installed them left the ends in the middle of a joist bay. When they applied the fasteners, they bowed down. Have you looked at the installation directions from the manufacturer to see what it recommends?

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Post by mrc » Tue May 29, 2018 12:23 pm

I'm not a fan of what appear to be exposed (unsealed) staples either. The low spots may collect water and leak. Should look more like this.
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Post by Sandtrap » Tue May 29, 2018 12:24 pm

I would not be happy with that at all.
As a builder, contractor, homeowner, or carpenter.
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Post by livesoft » Tue May 29, 2018 12:30 pm

I have seen lots of ridge vents and have never ever seen a bowed one or one that wasn't straight.

I think the contractor is pulling your leg or lying to you.
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Post by Sheepdog » Tue May 29, 2018 12:31 pm

Sandtrap wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 12:24 pm
I would not be happy with that at all.
As a builder, contractor, homeowner, or carpenter.
j :D
Agree and I will say that again. Never have I seen a ridge vent that looks like that. Trashy.

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Post by Mjar » Tue May 29, 2018 12:34 pm

no that does not look right. it should be parallel to the ridge all the way and flat not bowed

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Post by Triple digit golfer » Tue May 29, 2018 12:38 pm

You've all confirmed what I knew already.

This should be fun. They've already inspected it and say it is right. They say it will not leak and that if it hasn't leaked with our spring rains, then I'm fine.

But it's not even straight! Why is this even a debate? Oh yeah. $$$$$

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Post by Sandtrap » Tue May 29, 2018 12:39 pm

It should look perfectly even the entire length of the ridge.
Like this:
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Post by Sheepdog » Tue May 29, 2018 12:42 pm

Triple digit golfer wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 12:38 pm
You've all confirmed what I knew already.

This should be fun. They've already inspected it and say it is right. They say it will not leak and that if it hasn't leaked with our spring rains, then I'm fine.

But it's not even straight! Why is this even a debate? Oh yeah. $$$$$
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Re: New roof - does this ridge vent look right?

Post by bradpevans » Tue May 29, 2018 12:44 pm

Triple digit golfer wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 11:57 am
Hi all. I had a new roof put on my house last month and I have some major concerns on the ridge vent. I know very little about roofing and less about ridge vents, but it does not look right to me. I would think, but am not sure, that the vent would be flush with the roof all the way across and now bowed. I expressed my concerns and had the roofing company come out two different times to take a look and both times they said it is properly installed. However, I have my doubts. I just don't see why each piece would be bowed.

What do you all think?

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Did the job include a permit / inspection?

They did NOT do a good job on yours. just google "ridge vent" and go to images.
The point is to take the heat from between the inside ceiling and the outside
shingles and "vent" it outside.

Based on the 'install', i would also wonder did they cut out a "vent" in the plywood sheets/osb sheets that are under the shingles..

Note how long this ridge vent piece is, and where the nails go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYOfC5o4zeM

One can *buy* ridge vent shingles, but many roofers take the 3-tab shingles and do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umskAykgVak

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Post by bob60014 » Tue May 29, 2018 12:53 pm

Was this a roof over existing or a full removal of the roof to underlayment? I 'm seeing bowing /waves across the rafters too.

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Re: New roof - does this ridge vent look right?

Post by Triple digit golfer » Tue May 29, 2018 1:17 pm

To answer a couple questions:

Yes, they did cut out a vent in the plywood sheets. I can see it from the attic, a few inches on each side of the peak.

The job included a permit.

This was a full tear down roof to the underlayment.

UPDATE:

I just spoke with the owner of the company. He said it "looks like crap" but assured me that it would not leak from rain, but admitted that it probably would once winter comes around. He's going to have them come back out within a week and correct it. I told him I need it to be straight across and no spaces where I can fit my hand underneath, and he agreed that is how it should look.

We've had a very rainy spring and I have no leaks in my house. My attic is not one that I could easily or safely walk around in, but should I make an attempt to go up there and inspect for any water? It hasn't rained in 6 days though, so I bet everything would be dried out by then anyway.

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Post by ponyboy » Tue May 29, 2018 1:23 pm

Triple digit golfer wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 1:17 pm
To answer a couple questions:

Yes, they did cut out a vent in the plywood sheets. I can see it from the attic, a few inches on each side of the peak.

The job included a permit.

This was a full tear down roof to the underlayment.

UPDATE:

I just spoke with the owner of the company. He said it "looks like crap" but assured me that it would not leak from rain, but admitted that it probably would once winter comes around. He's going to have them come back out within a week and correct it. I told him I need it to be straight across and no spaces where I can fit my hand underneath, and he agreed that is how it should look.

We've had a very rainy spring and I have no leaks in my house. My attic is not one that I could easily or safely walk around in, but should I make an attempt to go up there and inspect for any water? It hasn't rained in 6 days though, so I bet everything would be dried out by then anyway.
I hope you recorded that conversation...otherwise theres no proof he ever said that. Like others said...get it in writing. Or at the very least I hope you didnt pay the full amount. Usually they charge an initial fee + materials...then the rest upon completion.

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Post by Church Lady » Tue May 29, 2018 1:26 pm

My attic is not one that I could easily or safely walk around in, but should I make an attempt to go up there and inspect for any water?
You can hire a home inspector to go up there and look around. If he finds water damage, have him take photos for you. He will give you a written report. That way, you have independent verification that the attic was damaged by the installation.

I am glad the owner of the company sees things your way.
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Post by ResearchMed » Tue May 29, 2018 1:35 pm

Triple digit golfer wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 1:17 pm
To answer a couple questions:

Yes, they did cut out a vent in the plywood sheets. I can see it from the attic, a few inches on each side of the peak.

The job included a permit.

This was a full tear down roof to the underlayment.

UPDATE:

I just spoke with the owner of the company. He said it "looks like crap" but assured me that it would not leak from rain, but admitted that it probably would once winter comes around. He's going to have them come back out within a week and correct it. I told him I need it to be straight across and no spaces where I can fit my hand underneath, and he agreed that is how it should look.

We've had a very rainy spring and I have no leaks in my house. My attic is not one that I could easily or safely walk around in, but should I make an attempt to go up there and inspect for any water? It hasn't rained in 6 days though, so I bet everything would be dried out by then anyway.
Sent you a PM about a somewhat similar experience with a roof.

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Re: New roof - does this ridge vent look right?

Post by Triple digit golfer » Tue May 29, 2018 1:42 pm

I am considering having an inspection done after they "correct" the ridge vent. Would you all recommend another roofing contractor or a general home inspector?

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Post by rustymutt » Tue May 29, 2018 2:51 pm

No, I see exposed nails. Do not pay them for that work.
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Post by Triple digit golfer » Tue May 29, 2018 4:47 pm

rustymutt wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 2:51 pm
No, I see exposed nails. Do not pay them for that work.
I don't see the nails. Where do you see them?

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Post by hicabob » Tue May 29, 2018 4:50 pm

Triple digit golfer wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 1:42 pm
I am considering having an inspection done after they "correct" the ridge vent. Would you all recommend another roofing contractor or a general home inspector?
Most places in the US you are supposed to get a permit which then involves the county inspector coming around a couple times. No inspector would pass that. Did you skip the permit part?

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Post by Triple digit golfer » Tue May 29, 2018 5:01 pm

hicabob wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 4:50 pm
Triple digit golfer wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 1:42 pm
I am considering having an inspection done after they "correct" the ridge vent. Would you all recommend another roofing contractor or a general home inspector?
Most places in the US you are supposed to get a permit which then involves the county inspector coming around a couple times. No inspector would pass that. Did you skip the permit part?
The contractor secured the permit from the city, but there was no inspector.

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Post by hicabob » Tue May 29, 2018 5:11 pm

Triple digit golfer wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 5:01 pm
hicabob wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 4:50 pm
Triple digit golfer wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 1:42 pm
I am considering having an inspection done after they "correct" the ridge vent. Would you all recommend another roofing contractor or a general home inspector?
Most places in the US you are supposed to get a permit which then involves the county inspector coming around a couple times. No inspector would pass that. Did you skip the permit part?
The contractor secured the permit from the city, but there was no inspector.
That's strange. I always assumed that inspection was one of the main points of a permit to ensure code is followed.

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Post by MP123 » Tue May 29, 2018 5:15 pm

Triple digit golfer wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 5:01 pm
hicabob wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 4:50 pm
Triple digit golfer wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 1:42 pm
I am considering having an inspection done after they "correct" the ridge vent. Would you all recommend another roofing contractor or a general home inspector?
Most places in the US you are supposed to get a permit which then involves the county inspector coming around a couple times. No inspector would pass that. Did you skip the permit part?
The contractor secured the permit from the city, but there was no inspector.
You might call the building dept. at the city/county that issued the permit. One of the purposes of getting a permit is to protect you as the homeowner from getting a job like the one you got.

Some places you can check the permit status online. Was it actually issued or did the contractor just charge you for it?

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Post by ResearchMed » Tue May 29, 2018 5:17 pm

MP123 wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 5:15 pm
Triple digit golfer wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 5:01 pm
hicabob wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 4:50 pm
Triple digit golfer wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 1:42 pm
I am considering having an inspection done after they "correct" the ridge vent. Would you all recommend another roofing contractor or a general home inspector?
Most places in the US you are supposed to get a permit which then involves the county inspector coming around a couple times. No inspector would pass that. Did you skip the permit part?
The contractor secured the permit from the city, but there was no inspector.
You might call the building dept. at the city/county that issued the permit. One of the purposes of getting a permit is to protect you as the homeowner from getting a job like the one you got.

Some places you can check the permit status online. Was it actually issued or did the contractor just charge you for it?
If this was "just completed", perhaps the contractor didn't notify the building department that the work was completed and ready for inspection?

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Post by jabberwockOG » Tue May 29, 2018 5:29 pm

jabberwockOG wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 5:26 pm
Triple digit golfer wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 5:01 pm
hicabob wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 4:50 pm
Triple digit golfer wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 1:42 pm
I am considering having an inspection done after they "correct" the ridge vent. Would you all recommend another roofing contractor or a general home inspector?
Most places in the US you are supposed to get a permit which then involves the county inspector coming around a couple times. No inspector would pass that. Did you skip the permit part?
The contractor secured the permit from the city, but there was no inspector.
First verify that a permit was obtained for this job, and then call the zoning and permit department in your town and request a roof inspection be performed or request to talk to the inspector if it was inspected to ask about the roof ridge vent.

I personally would think that the roof vent install like that would not not pass inspection but I'm not a pro.

If a permit was not obtained I'd be careful about calling the town zoning department as they may make you remove the roof and start over if it was installed improperly.

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Post by Triple digit golfer » Tue May 29, 2018 6:00 pm

I checked with the city. No inspection required for residential or commercial re-roofing.

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Post by Ron » Tue May 29, 2018 6:02 pm

This looks like a GAF Snow Country ridge vent, that is a bit thicker than the normal height ridge vents used by many roofing companies.

Example: https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.AAsd ... =453&h=164

Our development had most roofs replaced less than 10 years ago, due to damage done by a local hail event.

Most folks selected the standard ridge vent; I went for the Snow Country ridge vent - not because we get a lot of snow (we're in the mid-Atlantic), but I looked at it as a bit more protection for the "what if" snow accumulation would occur.

While our vent is not as drastically imperfect as the OP's, it does show a bit of undulation when compared to other standard ridge vents in the neighborhood due to it's height when compared to the "standard" vent.

It looks as if the higher vent was installed and a (heavy :mrgreen: ) employee walked on it after installation.

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Post by JBTX » Tue May 29, 2018 9:18 pm

I’m not at all an expert but have had 2 roofs in last 8 years due to hail damage. Lot of people in neighborhood did ridge vents. Having had rats in the attic years ago I want as few entry points as possible and it seems like these would be more prone to moisture in very wet and windy whether and perhaps not as secure in very high winds. Roofer was going to do ridge vents but I told him no. Keep attic fans and turtle
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Post by cheese_breath » Tue May 29, 2018 9:22 pm

I've only seen them from street level, but every one I've ever seen is straight across. Not bent like that.
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Post by bigdav160 » Wed May 30, 2018 8:07 am

I've installed several roofs myself (rent houses) with ridge vents.

While unsightly, I do not see any reason for the vent not to function properly.
It appears the fasteners were overdriven. I would think it an easy fix for the roofer. I am not sure why they would not address it.

On second look of the pictures it might be the vents (thin plastic) were deformed when installed. In that case the heat from the sum might flatten them some. It still looks like sloppy work.

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Post by Triple digit golfer » Wed May 30, 2018 1:45 pm

bigdav160 wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 8:07 am
I've installed several roofs myself (rent houses) with ridge vents.

While unsightly, I do not see any reason for the vent not to function properly.
It appears the fasteners were overdriven. I would think it an easy fix for the roofer. I am not sure why they would not address it.

On second look of the pictures it might be the vents (thin plastic) were deformed when installed. In that case the heat from the sum might flatten them some. It still looks like sloppy work.
Thank you. Wouldn't water and/or other debris get underneath the plastic vents that are bowed?

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Post by rustymutt » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:16 am

Triple digit golfer wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 1:45 pm
bigdav160 wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 8:07 am
I've installed several roofs myself (rent houses) with ridge vents.

While unsightly, I do not see any reason for the vent not to function properly.
It appears the fasteners were overdriven. I would think it an easy fix for the roofer. I am not sure why they would not address it.

On second look of the pictures it might be the vents (thin plastic) were deformed when installed. In that case the heat from the sum might flatten them some. It still looks like sloppy work.
Thank you. Wouldn't water and/or other debris get underneath the plastic vents that are bowed?
No fasteners of any kind should ever "very rarely"be seen. Very sloppy work.
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Re: New roof - does this ridge vent look right?

Post by likegarden » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:38 pm

No roof ridge vent should ever look like that. Here in my town in the Northeast every house seems to have ridge vents, and I have never seen such a thing like in OP's picture.

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Post by Teague » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:55 pm

Maybe they got those vents from one of the big-box home improvement stores. Made to fit with their warped lumber and curved drywall. :)
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Post by silverlitegs » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:26 pm

Church Lady wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 1:26 pm
My attic is not one that I could easily or safely walk around in, but should I make an attempt to go up there and inspect for any water?
You can hire a home inspector to go up there and look around. If he finds water damage, have him take photos for you. He will give you a written report. That way, you have independent verification that the attic was damaged by the installation.

I am glad the owner of the company sees things your way.
YOU DO NOT want a home inspector. You want to find another reputable roofing company to inspect the install and write a reportl. Shouldnt cost more than $150 or so.

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Post by 2comma » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:39 pm

bigdav160 wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 8:07 am
I've installed several roofs myself (rent houses) with ridge vents.

While unsightly, I do not see any reason for the vent not to function properly.
It appears the fasteners were overdriven. I would think it an easy fix for the roofer. I am not sure why they would not address it.

On second look of the pictures it might be the vents (thin plastic) were deformed when installed. In that case the heat from the sum might flatten them some. It still looks like sloppy work.
I just installed one last week. Mine was a GAF Cobra Rigid Vent 3, looks like the one pictured in SandTrap's pic with the vent sticks out about 1/2" beyond the ridge shingle. It looks like over nailing which they warn you against in the installation instructions. The rigid vents are all the rage but I found it was a little "fiddly" to install correctly and easy to get it to deform (but mine install looks a lot better than yours). You might also want to check how wide the slot is they cut in your ridge line sheathing before they do the reinstall (if it's too wide they are more prone to leaking).

I'd check for leaks after a hard blowing rain. That's how I found out the goofs had forgotten to put any sealant around the pipes penetrating my new roof.
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Post by sergeant » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:42 pm

Garage Journal has many professional roofers and contractors that can give you excellent information. I'm not either but can tell you that roof job looks terrible.
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