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Post by dollarsaver » Tue May 22, 2018 3:07 pm

Hello,

Anyone have experience buying a Tag Heuer on-line at a non-authorized Tag retailer? These sites over about 30% off retail for a the same new Tag model, but with an on-line store warranty. Sites such as authenticwatches.com, or watchmaxx.com. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

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Post by JohnFiscal » Tue May 22, 2018 3:21 pm

No. But I have considered such gray market items, both at Amazon and at sites like jomashop. I always decided to go with the full fare item. And these include some fairly expensive watches, including a ladies Tissot of around $1,000. That's just me.

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Post by Dottie57 » Tue May 22, 2018 3:27 pm

A friend of mine bought a $600 watch through an Amazon affiliate. She found out it was a fake when she took it to a jeweler for a new battery. A lesson learned.

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Post by dollarsaver » Tue May 22, 2018 3:30 pm

Dottie57 wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 3:27 pm
A friend of mine bought a $600 watch through an Amazon affiliate. She found out it was a fake when she took it to a jeweler for a new battery. A lesson learned.
Thanks for this post!

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Post by helloeveryone » Tue May 22, 2018 4:33 pm

Not that this will help much but I purchased a Tag on a cruiseship shop. When I got back, I searched aggressively to make sure I did indeed get a good price and I did. ($2040 instead of $2400 retail, and avoided the taxes) The secondary shops that someone above mentioned did have one that was close to what I paid but I'm not sure I would feel safe buying something for that much on those secondary sites. )

Looking back though I wished I hadn't spent that much money on a watch but that's a life lesson learned.
Costco has good name brand watches for what appears to be a good price. They don't have TAGs though.

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Post by KirklandCoug » Tue May 22, 2018 4:40 pm

I purchased one at WatchMaxx. Great buy. Saved a bunch of money. Do your homework and you'll be fine.

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Post by unclescrooge » Tue May 22, 2018 4:46 pm

You're going about this wrong.

I purchased an Omega Speedmaster in-person from a reputable watch shop. I showed up with a pile of $100 bills, spread the money on the counter and said I was serious about buying today if they would give me a 40% discount.

I think we settled on a 32% discount. Came with warranty and everything.

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Post by Misenplace » Tue May 22, 2018 5:59 pm

unclescrooge wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 4:46 pm
You're going about this wrong.

I purchased an Omega Speedmaster in-person from a reputable watch shop. I showed up with a pile of $100 bills, spread the money on the counter and said I was serious about buying today if they would give me a 40% discount.

I think we settled on a 32% discount. Came with warranty and everything.
Wonder if that would work with other Swiss/French brands?

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Post by keith6014 » Tue May 22, 2018 6:02 pm

i though Omega is Swiss.

Where did you try this stunt? I would like to goto Tourneau Midtown and try this because I have my eyes set on an Omega, coincidentally.

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Post by dskelcy » Tue May 22, 2018 6:11 pm

Try the used watch market: Crown and Caliber have high quality used watches that are certified to be real and they are drastically cheaper. ...unless you don't want to buy used.

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Post by keepingitsimple » Tue May 22, 2018 6:35 pm

dskelcy wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 6:11 pm
Try the used watch market: Crown and Caliber have high quality used watches that are certified to be real and they are drastically cheaper. ...unless you don't want to buy used.
If you are open to previously owned watches, then I second the recommendation for Crown & Caliber. I have purchased from them and was very happy. Their rating for the condition of the watch I purchased was spot on.
unclescrooge wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 4:46 pm
You're going about this wrong.

I purchased an Omega Speedmaster in-person from a reputable watch shop. I showed up with a pile of $100 bills, spread the money on the counter and said I was serious about buying today if they would give me a 40% discount.

I think we settled on a 32% discount. Came with warranty and everything.
I have heard of others successfully negotiating a deal of this nature. I think some retailers may do this so they can meet purchasing requirements from major brands, at least that's what I think I recall reading. I may be mistaken.
dollarsaver wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 3:07 pm
Hello,

Anyone have experience buying a Tag Heuer on-line at a non-authorized Tag retailer? These sites over about 30% off retail for a the same new Tag model, but with an on-line store warranty. Sites such as authenticwatches.com, or watchmaxx.com. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
I have not purchased grey market watches which, if the watch is genuine, is likely what this Tag is. Grey market watches are watches that are genuine but were intended to be sold in a different market (different country). The clue is that the warranty is an online warranty and not a manufacturers warranty and the discount is in keeping with grey market pricing. I'm always a little hesitant purchasing watches online unless I have researched the company that is selling them. I'm afraid I'm unfamiliar with the two websites you reference. I would do a google search for online reviews of the websites you are considering purchasing thru as well as reviews of the quality of their warranty repairs.

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Post by sunny_socal » Tue May 22, 2018 7:06 pm

Jomashop is another well known online 'grey' dealer:
https://www.jomashop.com/tag-heuer-watc ... d0922.html

I would have no problem buying a Tag from a reputable online dealer. Most likely it's a quartz, meaning the only maintenance it will ever require is a new battery.

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Post by keepingitsimple » Tue May 22, 2018 7:43 pm

Here are links to the Better Business Bureau listings for each of the two companies you mentioned. You can sort reviews by positive, neutral or negative. I recommend reading some of the negative reviews from each. Though, to be fair, any company of a larger size or that sells costly items will likely have their fair share of disgruntled customers.

Authenticwatches.com
https://www.bbb.org/santa-barbara/busin ... complaints

Watchmaxx.com
https://www.bbb.org/new-york-city/busin ... complaints

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Post by unclescrooge » Tue May 22, 2018 9:44 pm

keith6014 wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 6:02 pm
i though Omega is Swiss.

Where did you try this stunt? I would like to goto Tourneau Midtown and try this because I have my eyes set on an Omega, coincidentally.
A Westfield mall in San Diego

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Post by ji.isaacs » Wed May 23, 2018 6:52 am

sunny_socal wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 7:06 pm
Jomashop is another well known online 'grey' dealer:
https://www.jomashop.com/tag-heuer-watc ... d0922.html

I would have no problem buying a Tag from a reputable online dealer. Most likely it's a quartz, meaning the only maintenance it will ever require is a new battery.
I noticed the unusual shipping time on the watch you linked. Why in the world would it take 3-5 weeks to ship?

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Post by sk2101 » Wed May 23, 2018 8:00 am

helloeveryone wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 4:33 pm
Costco has good name brand watches for what appears to be a good price. They don't have TAGs though.
My Costco has Tags in store from time to time.

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Post by Jtschrock » Wed May 23, 2018 8:26 am

A few years ago we purchased a used womens Tag on eBay for my wife. That particular watch was being sold from Japan. It was a great deal and is an awesome timepiece. One year ago bought another mechanical Tag on eBay for myself, it was new old stock in box with all of the tags still attached to the watch. It was also a great deal. Personally, I check the sellers feedback closely and will only bid when the seller appears to be a reputable dealer. We have three Tag watches now, they are great timepieces!

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Post by sunny_socal » Wed May 23, 2018 8:41 am

ji.isaacs wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 6:52 am
sunny_socal wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 7:06 pm
Jomashop is another well known online 'grey' dealer:
https://www.jomashop.com/tag-heuer-watc ... d0922.html

I would have no problem buying a Tag from a reputable online dealer. Most likely it's a quartz, meaning the only maintenance it will ever require is a new battery.
I noticed the unusual shipping time on the watch you linked. Why in the world would it take 3-5 weeks to ship?
Probably because they don't actually have it in stock and they drop ship it from somewhere else.

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Post by mak1277 » Wed May 23, 2018 8:45 am

Here's the way I go about this.

First, I would find out what kind of discount an authorized dealer would give you. For a tag, you should not have to pay full retail, even in a store.
Then I would figure out what the cost of a normal servicing of the watch would be.

If the cost of 1 servicing plus the grey market price is still lower than the AD price, I'd buy grey market. That way, even if the watch needs a service, you're still out less than the cost of the watch at the retailer.

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Post by Rob5TCP » Wed May 23, 2018 9:10 am

I've bought two watches from Ashford.com and when taken to a jeweler he said both were genuine.
The warranty is private not from Raymond Weill (one of the two that I bought).
I did notice that a number of the most heavily discounted watches (some 50-65%) were
styles that were discontinued. That did not matter to me. They do periodic mailings that give
quite high discounts on watches they are phasing out.
Unfortunately since I bought a Fitbit, I almost never wear any other watch anymore.

www.Ashford.com

https://www.bbb.org/new-york-city/busin ... -ny-105456
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Post by Pajamas » Wed May 23, 2018 9:12 am

sk2101 wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 8:00 am
helloeveryone wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 4:33 pm
Costco has good name brand watches for what appears to be a good price. They don't have TAGs though.
My Costco has Tags in store from time to time.
Be aware that Costco has sold gray market watches.

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Post by LarryAllen » Wed May 23, 2018 9:16 am

I bought a Tag from an authorized dealer 10 years ago and have been really disappointed with it. Keeps crappy time, doesn't look great, and now it sits in a closet. Recently bought a brand new Seiko for $200 and it rocks!

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Post by mak1277 » Wed May 23, 2018 9:18 am

Pajamas wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 9:12 am
sk2101 wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 8:00 am
helloeveryone wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 4:33 pm
Costco has good name brand watches for what appears to be a good price. They don't have TAGs though.
My Costco has Tags in store from time to time.
Be aware that Costco has sold gray market watches.
gray market is not a synonym for fake.

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Post by Pajamas » Wed May 23, 2018 9:20 am

mak1277 wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 9:18 am
Pajamas wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 9:12 am

Be aware that Costco has sold gray market watches.
gray market is not a synonym for fake.
I didn't imply that it was.

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Post by 1210sda » Wed May 23, 2018 9:25 am

How do you pronounce "heuer"???? :?
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Post by Pajamas » Wed May 23, 2018 9:37 am

1210sda wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 9:25 am
How do you pronounce "heuer"???? :?
1210
Something like "hoy-your" with not much emphasis on the "r".

https://www.pronounceitright.com/pronun ... heuer-5369

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Post by keepingitsimple » Wed May 23, 2018 9:40 am

Pajamas wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 9:37 am
1210sda wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 9:25 am
How do you pronounce "heuer"???? :?
1210
Something like "hoy-your" with not much emphasis on the "r".

https://www.pronounceitright.com/pronun ... heuer-5369
Here's an additional pronunciation reference:
https://youtu.be/QlaQA1HIapg
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Post by keepingitsimple » Wed May 23, 2018 9:43 am

mak1277 wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 8:45 am
Here's the way I go about this.

First, I would find out what kind of discount an authorized dealer would give you. For a tag, you should not have to pay full retail, even in a store.
Then I would figure out what the cost of a normal servicing of the watch would be.

If the cost of 1 servicing plus the grey market price is still lower than the AD price, I'd buy grey market. That way, even if the watch needs a service, you're still out less than the cost of the watch at the retailer.
Tag Heuer Servicing Price List for US:
http://customer-service.tagheuer.com/up ... A_2017.pdf

Link found on this page:
http://customer-service.tagheuer.com/en ... d-states-0

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Post by mak1277 » Wed May 23, 2018 9:44 am

Pajamas wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 9:20 am
mak1277 wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 9:18 am
Pajamas wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 9:12 am

Be aware that Costco has sold gray market watches.
gray market is not a synonym for fake.
I didn't imply that it was.
Ok, then what was the implication? Who cares if Costco sells gray market watches?

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Post by 92irish » Wed May 23, 2018 9:51 am

I recently purchased an Omega Seamaster at Jomashop. Everything was perfect and smooth transaction. Jomashop has been in business and a long time. They do a ton of volume and would not hesitate to purchase from them. That being said, if I ever had a problem with the watch in the future, I don't view their warranty as worth anything and would go straight to Omega or reputable repair shop.

Lastly, Jomashop is not always the cheapest of the online dealers in fine watches, but they price matched a price I found cheaper online. All things being equal, if you are going buy online Jomashop is your best bet in my opinion.

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Post by Frank Grimes » Wed May 23, 2018 9:54 am

The term "gray market" implies sketchiness, but gray market just means they're not an authorized retailer for the brand. So that means you would not get the manufacturer's warranty for the item. Costco probably has their own warranty and return policy though.

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Post by JuniorBH » Wed May 23, 2018 11:47 am

I'm also interested to hear from anyone who has made an expensive purchase from Jomashop (i.e. >$1,000). I browse quite often, but haven't been able to pull the trigger on anything given that it's not an authorized retailer.

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Post by new2bogle » Wed May 23, 2018 11:59 am

I've done it before, almost 15 years ago now. I bought my wife and myself two Tags (Links) online from a non-authorized dealer. They were about 30% off. The watches came with everything you would get in a retail shop. I took it to a jeweler to get the strap adjusted and later to get the batteries replaced. The watches were authentic.

BTW - I still wear them, though my daily is now an apple watch. Tags are very nice watches without the cluttered look of Omega/Breitling on the watchface.

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Post by mak1277 » Wed May 23, 2018 12:14 pm

JuniorBH wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:47 am
I'm also interested to hear from anyone who has made an expensive purchase from Jomashop (i.e. >$1,000). I browse quite often, but haven't been able to pull the trigger on anything given that it's not an authorized retailer.
Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra from Jomashop. It was over $1,000 cheaper than at the retailer. No issues at all.

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Post by GmanJeff » Wed May 23, 2018 12:32 pm

I bought my son a new Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Co-axial from Bernard Watch Company for his high school graduation. www.bernardwatch.com. I wouldn't hesitate to buy from them again. The watch was heavily discounted, arrived very quickly, packed well and in the factory box with all paperwork, and in perfect condition just as described and photographed on their site. They deal in TAG watches, both new and pre-owned, although the selection available at any given time is much more limited than what you'll find at an authorized dealer. I would not be surprised if they might not be able to get you want you want if if you let them know what you're looking for.

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Post by corn18 » Wed May 23, 2018 2:25 pm

I have bought and sold a lot of high end watches. The gray dealers are nice, but there is a way to have your cake and eat it, too. I bought most of my watches from dealers on rolexforums.com. They buy from dealers and get the warranty card stamped and dated then resell. I always got jomashop prices but with a factory warranty. Bought and sold nearly $250,000 worth of watches that way. I'm down to 4 watches and wear a G-Shock 99.5% of the time now, but it was an adventure owning some of those watches.

There is a list of trusted sellers and an active feedback forum. Buy the seller.

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Post by dollarsaver » Wed May 23, 2018 6:39 pm

keepingitsimple wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 7:43 pm
Here are links to the Better Business Bureau listings for each of the two companies you mentioned. You can sort reviews by positive, neutral or negative. I recommend reading some of the negative reviews from each. Though, to be fair, any company of a larger size or that sells costly items will likely have their fair share of disgruntled customers.

Authenticwatches.com
https://www.bbb.org/santa-barbara/busin ... complaints

Watchmaxx.com
https://www.bbb.org/new-york-city/busin ... complaints
Thanks for this info.

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Post by helloeveryone » Wed May 23, 2018 11:28 pm

Frank Grimes wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 9:54 am
The term "gray market" implies sketchiness, but gray market just means they're not an authorized retailer for the brand. So that means you would not get the manufacturer's warranty for the item. Costco probably has their own warranty and return policy though.
I found the costco link about warranty...

https://m.costco.com/wcsstore/CostcoUSB ... Policy.pdf

This is in a way kind of like refusing the “extra insurance” that stores sell you. If you save “x” dollars buying the watch from an non authorized retailer you are essentially not paying for the built in cost of insurance. Similar to refusing the extra insurance when buying electronics or buying “used” rather than certified pre-owned.

This is an interesting thread to learn about fancy watch pricing. :D

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Post by keepingitsimple » Thu May 24, 2018 12:04 am

helloeveryone wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:28 pm
Frank Grimes wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 9:54 am
The term "gray market" implies sketchiness, but gray market just means they're not an authorized retailer for the brand. So that means you would not get the manufacturer's warranty for the item. Costco probably has their own warranty and return policy though.
I found the costco link about warranty...

https://m.costco.com/wcsstore/CostcoUSB ... Policy.pdf

This is in a way kind of like refusing the “extra insurance” that stores sell you. If you save “x” dollars buying the watch from an non authorized retailer you are essentially not paying for the built in cost of insurance. Similar to refusing the extra insurance when buying electronics or buying “used” rather than certified pre-owned.

This is an interesting thread to learn about fancy watch pricing. :D
This is an accurate way of viewing "gray market" watches. You are simply foregoing the warranty/built in insurance.

In reference to Frank Grimes post, I agree "gray market" inaccurately implies sketchiness. Legit gray market watches are indeed authentic. However, the complication arises in that one must thoroughly research the source from which one purchases a gray market watch in order to guarantee it's authenticity. Of course, I am not implying national companies such as Costco would sell fakes. But due diligence is a must with lesser known retailers.

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Post by novemberrain » Tue May 29, 2018 1:19 am

What sort of net worth justifies buying a watch worth several thousand dollars ?

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Post by t885 » Tue May 29, 2018 5:38 am

novemberrain wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 1:19 am
What sort of net worth justifies buying a watch worth several thousand dollars ?
How is this relevant to the OP's question?
There are two kinds of forecasters: those who don't know, and those who don't know they don't know

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Post by dollarsaver » Tue May 29, 2018 8:31 am

Thanks for all the great info! Really appreciate it.

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