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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by LadyGeek » Sat May 05, 2018 11:13 am

With regards to some earlier posts, OS wars are off-topic (Apple vs. MicroSoft).
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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by LadyGeek » Sat May 05, 2018 11:13 am

I'm currently on Linux, but dual-boot with Win 10.

I had to reset my privacy settings after the latest MS update.
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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by HueyLD » Sat May 05, 2018 7:10 pm

I just spent 2 1/2 hours installing ver 1803. It took a while but the new operating system was installed successfully.

My Lenovo is only five months old.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by PFInterest » Sat May 05, 2018 7:17 pm

samsoes wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 8:53 am
Hello folks,

Just a quick word of warning - if at all possible, decline any way you can this week's major Windows Update (Spring Creator's Update, version 1803). After the multi-hour upgrade affair, I was unable to launch Outlook 2010 (I have gigabytes of mail catagorized and stored in the .pst files), Quicken didn't launch, and the Perfect Privacy VPN app threw errors. Oh, and my fingerprint reader no longer functioned.

Outlook and Quicken would start to come-up, the logos would appear, and then they just "went away" without any error message. After several attempts to run through the Office 2010 repair process and reinstalling Quicken, I gave up and reverted back to the prior build of Windows. All seems to be well, but Outlook is still a little quirky. That, and the Perfect Privacy VPN app are this evening's projects.

I followed the procedure here to block the update for 4 months: https://pureinfotech.com/prevent-window ... date-1803/. Hopefully it will work.

Vent: I've been in software developemnt for decades. If at any job I've held I deployed the unstable garbage that Microsoft routinely releases, I wouldn't have lasted very long in the buisness.

Edit: I have a Dell Latitude E6430
updated 2 computers. zero issues.
seems like you are doing something wrong.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by Silk McCue » Sat May 05, 2018 8:50 pm

PFInterest wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 7:17 pm
updated 2 computers. zero issues.
seems like you are doing something wrong.
It is quite possible to do everything right and have something go wrong on your PC. Windows is a very complex operating system running on a massive number of unique hardware configurations with unique drivers which supports a multitude of software packages with various releases themselves.

The windows update is pretty much a hands off process and often runs on schedule in the middle of the night. Based on my own recent problem with an update I see no reason to believe the OP is at fault.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by samsoes » Sun May 06, 2018 10:57 am

PFInterest wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 7:17 pm
samsoes wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 8:53 am
Hello folks,

Just a quick word of warning - if at all possible, decline any way you can this week's major Windows Update (Spring Creator's Update, version 1803). After the multi-hour upgrade affair, I was unable to launch Outlook 2010 (I have gigabytes of mail catagorized and stored in the .pst files), Quicken didn't launch, and the Perfect Privacy VPN app threw errors. Oh, and my fingerprint reader no longer functioned.

Outlook and Quicken would start to come-up, the logos would appear, and then they just "went away" without any error message. After several attempts to run through the Office 2010 repair process and reinstalling Quicken, I gave up and reverted back to the prior build of Windows. All seems to be well, but Outlook is still a little quirky. That, and the Perfect Privacy VPN app are this evening's projects.

I followed the procedure here to block the update for 4 months: https://pureinfotech.com/prevent-window ... date-1803/. Hopefully it will work.

Vent: I've been in software developemnt for decades. If at any job I've held I deployed the unstable garbage that Microsoft routinely releases, I wouldn't have lasted very long in the buisness.

Edit: I have a Dell Latitude E6430
updated 2 computers. zero issues.
seems like you are doing something wrong.
Oh, really?

This is not a new problem after such upgrades. Unfortunately, there isn't a documented solution other than a reformat-reinstall of windows and all installed programs.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by HueyLD » Sun May 06, 2018 11:00 am

I am sure there is a business reason, but MSFT didn't use to do a complete operating system update every spring and every fall.

I always pray before any update is started. Sigh.....

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by Watty » Sun May 06, 2018 11:11 am

HueyLD wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 11:00 am
I always pray before any update is started. Sigh.....
I always do backup before any big update. The problem is that when they trigger one like that automatically you may not have done a backup recently.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by ResearchMed » Sun May 06, 2018 11:27 am

Watty wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 11:11 am
HueyLD wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 11:00 am
I always pray before any update is started. Sigh.....
I always do backup before any big update. The problem is that when they trigger one like that automatically you may not have done a backup recently.
THIS is the really annoying problem.

HAL speaking: "I'm sorry, RM. I can't let you backup your work before we update!"

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by HueyLD » Sun May 06, 2018 12:08 pm

Watty wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 11:11 am
HueyLD wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 11:00 am
I always pray before any update is started. Sigh.....
I always do backup before any big update. The problem is that when they trigger one like that automatically you may not have done a backup recently.
I back up files regularly, but MSFT updates always make me uncomfortable.

I bought a new HP laptop about eight months ago, and it was nothing but a disaster after the first monthly Windows update. I had to return the laptop because even HP's tech support couldn't fix the problems.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by bondsr4me » Sun May 06, 2018 12:10 pm

Updated my SP4.....no issues other than I had to turn on Bluetooth.

I am an Apple guy, but I like W10.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by pshonore » Sun May 06, 2018 1:51 pm

Windows is still trying to update my PC every night (1:00 am or so).

Here's what shows if I look at installed update history:

Updates are available
2018-04 Cumulative update 1709 x64 based systems
Status: awaiting restart

History: (all below status say requires restart to finish installing)
2018-04 Cumulative update 1709
2018-03 Cumulative update 1709
2018-04 Security update Adobe Flash 1709
2018-03 Security update Adobe Flash 1709

Last successful update was 2/13/18 for 2018-02 Cumulative Update 1709

I tried this: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/hel ... ate-errors (without success)

I'm thinking of bringing in the PC to the local Microsoft store and having them resolve it.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by nedsaid » Sun May 06, 2018 2:51 pm

Smorgasbord wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 9:32 am
Nothing specific to that particular update, but Windows 10 really like changing my settings back to default after every stupid update. Luckily, after the 10th time reengaging Loudness Equalization or adjusting the screen overfill I've gotten quite speedy at it. :happy
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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by MindBogler » Sun May 06, 2018 3:12 pm

I've updated 3 personal machines and several VMs with no issues encountered. If you have issues with the upgrade, I suggest grabbing the Media Creation Tool for 1803 and doing a format / clean install (back up your data somewhere first, of course). The issues people are running into are no different than when OS X major releases occur. I've seen entire development teams unable to work for days after an OS X release. These issues aren't unique to Microsoft, Apple, or Linux and anyone trying to claim otherwise is exposing their personal biases IMHO.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by F150HD » Sun May 06, 2018 8:18 pm

Everytime I go through one of these updates I have the 'adaptive brightness' issue where the screen automatically dims when you look at a darker website. SUPER ANNOYING...and took me forever to figure out how to fix the first time around.

Well, after this update it began happening AGAIN!

Links for anyone experiencing this irritating problem:

https://superuser.com/questions/1267769 ... s-disabled

https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Fo ... 8itproperf

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by pyld76 » Sun May 06, 2018 8:52 pm

sksbog wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 10:43 am
I never decline updates. If they break something next update would fix it. Keep your backups upto date and always update on time.

Every update makes your PC stronger and more secure, in general.

19 years in IT and counting...
I only run Windows 10 Pro or better, and then only in VMs, and only then after ensuring I've got a snapshot I can fall back to in seconds. I take the deferred updates (or what they've now called the "semi-annual" channel), which usually ensures that MS has 6 months of time to completely bork the general population of Win10 home users and anyone bold enough to take feature upgrades in "production." I happily decline feature updates from MS, and I do so explicitly due to 20 years in IT, and counting.

In the interest of disclosure and nothing else, these VMs are running on a Mac. I think all OS vendors suck, I just happen to really like a 5k 27" display.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by Ron » Sun May 06, 2018 9:43 pm

Updated today; no problems with update nor any program problems found.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by schachtw » Mon May 07, 2018 10:07 am

Likewise as others have posted -
No problems with latest Windows 10 spring update. Took about 75 minutes in total elapsed time.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by Doom&Gloom » Mon May 07, 2018 11:14 am

madbrain wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 4:58 am
meebers wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 7:53 pm
I dont know, but I think hardware has a lot to do with it? as well as the operator.
Yes, you are right on both counts. There is just about an infinity of possible PC hardware combinations. It's not possible for Microsoft to test them all, and expect their updates to work. They should not be forced.

It's definitely operator error. The operator of the updates in this case is Microsoft.

I had major problems with update 1709 already last year. Took me months to figure out that the update modified the ACPI driver for my motherboard and installed one that was incompatible. The result ? It was impossible to either put the machine to sleep, or shut it down ! The only option that worked was holding off the power button for 5 seconds to turn it off . Talk about a ridiculous problem !

Fast forward to this week. The boot drive in my main PC crashed and burned. I don't know if it's related to this latest update or not. I do know that neither of the two SSDs in my RAID array are bad, from having pulled them out and fully tested them in another machine. The RAM in the machine is also perfectly fine, from running memtest.

I have 4 sets of backups. So far in 48 hours, I haven't been able to restore the boot volume to the RAID volume with the two SSDs with Acronis. Restore to a single SSD in non-RAID mode works. Back to the original RAID volume (same controller, motherboard, and actual same drives) - doesn't work. Not happy about this at all. Not sure exactly who is at fault yet for the crashing. Certainly Acronis is at fault for not being able to restore - failing equally badly from the Linux boot media or WinPE boot media. Sigh.
Thank you for including that statement. That must be what happpened to my PC--only the problem was intermittent when I shut it down. I never connected it to a previous Windows update. After this most recent update, I have not observed the issue, but, as I said, it was intermittent, so... *knocking on wood*

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by F150HD » Wed May 09, 2018 5:14 pm

Windows 10 April 2018 Update is crashing some systems with Intel SSDs

If you believe you’re affected by the issue, Microsoft advises rolling back to Windows 10 version 1709 and waiting for an official resolution before reinstalling the update. This can reportedly be done by pressing F8 during the boot process and restoring to an earlier version of the OS.

Nice. My system has froze 3 times in the past 2 days.....never had that issue....until now.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

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This may be of use to many (unless its already been posted)

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by jebmke » Wed May 09, 2018 5:32 pm

In some configurations you can declare your internet connection a metered connection and block updates from downloading from metered connections. We have done this with TaxAide laptops to avoid updates from starting in the middle of a tax session.
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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by samsoes » Wed May 09, 2018 5:40 pm

F150HD wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 5:25 pm
This may be of use to many (unless its already been posted)

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This is fantastic, thank you!
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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by pointyhairedboss » Wed May 09, 2018 9:53 pm

Updated my laptop today, Windows deleted Dolby Home Theater software from my laptop without permission. I don't think this was Microsoft software. Who gives them the right to delete software from my machine? (yea, I know, some EULA that I likely signed on OS install)
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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by Mel Lindauer » Wed May 09, 2018 11:25 pm

F150HD wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 5:25 pm
This may be of use to many (unless its already been posted)

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Thanks for that. Very helpful. I used it on both of my computers and will undo it once the bugs get ironed out.
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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by pshonore » Thu May 10, 2018 6:25 am

jebmke wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 5:32 pm
In some configurations you can declare your internet connection a metered connection and block updates from downloading from metered connections. We have done this with TaxAide laptops to avoid updates from starting in the middle of a tax session.
I believe that works if you're connected via Wi-fi but NOT if you're hard wired to the router (like I am)

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by HueyLD » Thu May 10, 2018 6:47 am

You can set either wired or wireless connection as a metered connection.

My data cap is so high that I have no need to do so. But it is nice to know that such an option exists.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by jebmke » Thu May 10, 2018 6:50 am

HueyLD wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 6:47 am
You can set either wired or wireless connection as a metered connection.

My data cap is so high that I have no need to do so. But it is nice to know that such an option exists.
Yes; I have a wired connection that I set as "metered" to control updates. I think this changed with one of the recent major feature updates. If I recall correctly, in the early days, this feature was only available for wifi connections.
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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by likegarden » Thu May 10, 2018 7:50 am

My PC seems to be set on automatic updates. So I saw a lengthy Windows update going on one morning, everything seemed to be OK afterwards. But then later suddenly the displays became frantic, changing rapidly on Google Chrome without me being able to stop it, were all over the screen. I powered down the PC and restarted with everything being nice again. Running Malwarebytes and Webroot afterwards showed no problems. I have never seen anything like this on previous PCs before.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by samsoes » Thu May 10, 2018 7:53 am

pointyhairedboss wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 9:53 pm
Updated my laptop today, Windows deleted Dolby Home Theater software from my laptop without permission. I don't think this was Microsoft software. Why gives them the right to delete software from my machine? (yea, I know, some EULA that I likely signed on OS install)
That's really unconscionable and infuriating to hear.
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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by bondsr4me » Thu May 10, 2018 8:12 am

drwtsn32 wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 9:24 am
Every damn time the Apple fanboys can't resist evangelizing....sigh
I am not evangelizing, but I am unapologetic about being a fan of Apple products. They really do "just work".
They play well together.

i also have and use a Microsoft SurfacePro 4 running the new Windows 10 update.

I have had no issues with it, but I just use it for internet and Outlook mail/calendar. I really like it.

Monday and Tuesday I spent some time watching the MS Build Conference. I think Satya Nadella is really taking MS into the next level of computing.
He certainly is a much better CEO than Balmer. I give Nadella a lot of credit for being willing to go way far out on the limb and risk his neck (and job).
He certainly is not riding anyone's coattails.

Both Apple and Microsoft are very good in their rights. Apple is retail consumer and darned good at it. Microsoft is business/enterprise oriented.k
They are BOTH very good at what they do.

This comes from an Apple Fan AND a MS Fan too.

Have a great day!

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by HueyLD » Thu May 10, 2018 8:18 am

Microsoft used to just do monthly updates without the semiannual total makeover of Windows operating system. Does anyone know why they decided to do massive updates every six months nowadays?

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

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HueyLD wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 8:18 am
Microsoft used to just do monthly updates without the semiannual total makeover of Windows operating system. Does anyone know why they decided to do massive updates every six months nowadays?
I think it is their shift to Windows as a service vs. a product. The six-month updates are mainly feature & functionality rollouts. The monthly security & break-fix patches continue, I think.
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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by LadyGeek » Sun May 13, 2018 9:35 pm

F150HD wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 5:14 pm
Windows 10 April 2018 Update is crashing some systems with Intel SSDs

If you believe you’re affected by the issue, Microsoft advises rolling back to Windows 10 version 1709 and waiting for an official resolution before reinstalling the update. This can reportedly be done by pressing F8 during the boot process and restoring to an earlier version of the OS.

Nice. My system has froze 3 times in the past 2 days.....never had that issue....until now.
It turns out I have this problem, but Microsoft blocked the upgrade.
=========================================

I just updated 2 desktops to version 1803 a.k.a. "April 2018" update. Other than my usual annoyance at having to reset all of the privacy settings, the upgrade went unscathed.

It was a different story for my Lenovo T470 laptop, though. I was presented with this unexpected error: :shock:
Your PC hardware is not supported by this version of windows 10.
A quick check of Lenovo's website stated the T470 was compatible with this upgrade. What was different?

My first thought was my whole-drive encryption with Veracrypt. Perhaps Win 10 is not happy with the bootloader or something related to encryption? I found this discussion: VeraCrypt / Forums / General Discussion:Windows 10 1703 update fails to install (with discussion for 1803)

I unencrypted the drive and tried again. No, same error. After a lot more searching, I found the source: Intel SSDs are not supported. Win 10's device manager reports my laptop's SSD as Intel with the model number. It's the Intel 6000P product line.

Direct from MicroSoft: May 8, 2018—KB4103721 (OS Build 17134.48) I underlined the important point.
When attempting to upgrade to the Window 10 April 2018 Update, select devices with Intel SSD 600p Series or Intel SSD Pro 6000p Series may repeatedly enter a UEFI screen after restart or stop working.

... We are working with OEM partners and Intel to identify and block devices with Intel SSD 600p Series or Intel SSD Pro 6000p Series from installing the April 2018 Update. ... Microsoft is working on a resolution that will be provided in an upcoming release; after which, these devices will be able to install the April 2018 Update.
I'm happy that MS was smart enough to block the upgrade and keep me from wasting a lot of time. There's no date posted for a fix.
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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by F150HD » Mon May 14, 2018 5:49 am

LadyGeek wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 9:35 pm
...
It turns out I have this problem, but Microsoft blocked the upgrade.
=========================================

I just updated 2 desktops to version 1803 a.k.a. "April 2018" update. Other than my usual annoyance at having to reset all of the privacy settings, the upgrade went unscathed.

It was a different story for my Lenovo T470 laptop, though. I was presented with this unexpected error: :shock:
Your PC hardware is not supported by this version of windows 10.
A quick check of Lenovo's website stated the T470 was compatible with this upgrade. What was different?

My first thought was my whole-drive encryption with Veracrypt. Perhaps Win 10 is not happy with the bootloader or something related to encryption? I found this discussion: VeraCrypt / Forums / General Discussion:Windows 10 1703 update fails to install (with discussion for 1803)

I unencrypted the drive and tried again. No, same error. After a lot more searching, I found the source: Intel SSDs are not supported. Win 10's device manager reports my laptop's SSD as Intel with the model number. It's the Intel 6000P product line.

Direct from MicroSoft: May 8, 2018—KB4103721 (OS Build 17134.48) I underlined the important point.
When attempting to upgrade to the Window 10 April 2018 Update, select devices with Intel SSD 600p Series or Intel SSD Pro 6000p Series may repeatedly enter a UEFI screen after restart or stop working.

... We are working with OEM partners and Intel to identify and block devices with Intel SSD 600p Series or Intel SSD Pro 6000p Series from installing the April 2018 Update. ... Microsoft is working on a resolution that will be provided in an upcoming release; after which, these devices will be able to install the April 2018 Update.
I'm happy that MS was smart enough to block the upgrade and keep me from wasting a lot of time. There's no date posted for a fix.
Hmmm...mine kept trying to update until I manually turned it 'off'. Everytime it updates I have to resync Google Drive....a serious PITA. Then the settings (as you describe)- seems everything in my system needs resetting after these updates- graphics card, certain drivers, Chrome was acting funny....
I wonder/wish if there could just be security service packs instead of these global updates to the entire system. I don't recall these kinds of issues w/ Win 8 or 2003, or Vista etc back when etc. Dunno.

Have no idea when I'll know a new update is out....at that, when it is out I know it'll throw the whole system off (again) :(

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Post by seawolf21 » Mon May 14, 2018 9:10 am

No problems here with update either.

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Post by Steelersfan » Mon May 14, 2018 9:51 am

Update took 30 minutes. No problems, and memory usage seems to be down, so that's good for my 4 GB RAM PC.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by Silk McCue » Mon May 14, 2018 10:20 am

I have a Surface Pro 3 and chose to turnoff updates a few days ago using instructions found in this thread. I Googled 1803 for my SP3 and found lots of users having problems. My last update was rough with impacts on keyboard and mouse a couple of months ago and I spent hours trying to resolve it. I will wait this out until I see users of my machine not having significant problems.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by oldcomputerguy » Mon May 14, 2018 11:08 am

Just saw this today in my inbox, thought it was relevant to the thread.
Charles Lewis from Florida, USA sent us the following alert which he also posted as a comment on one of Brien Posey's articles on our techgenix.com site:

Installed the Windows 10 (Pro) 1803 upgrade on one system April 30 and on another system May 5.

On both, the 1803 upgrade removed/deleted/wiped out existing Restore Points AND turned System Restore OFF.

Who knew? Be aware and warned.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by samsoes » Mon May 14, 2018 11:13 am

oldcomputerguy wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 11:08 am
Just saw this today in my inbox, thought it was relevant to the thread.
Charles Lewis from Florida, USA sent us the following alert which he also posted as a comment on one of Brien Posey's articles on our techgenix.com site:

Installed the Windows 10 (Pro) 1803 upgrade on one system April 30 and on another system May 5.

On both, the 1803 upgrade removed/deleted/wiped out existing Restore Points AND turned System Restore OFF.

Who knew? Be aware and warned.

File History seems unaffected.
Mind-blowing. In all my years of software development, if I produced a garbage product such as this update, it would have meant a visit to the unemployment office.
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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by LadyGeek » Mon May 14, 2018 3:02 pm

Yes, but the last part of the text is missing. This has not been confirmed. (I underlined the important part.)
Can any other readers confirm this behavior? Even if you haven't upgraded to 1803 yet it's still a good idea to check and see that System Restore is turned on in Windows 10 and if it isn't' then turn it on immediately. Unless you're PC is corporately managed using Group Policy in which case you have no control over this setting.
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Post by ResearchMed » Wed May 16, 2018 9:06 am

Deleted... I found the answer.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by F150HD » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:08 pm

Strange....so sitting here working and this pops up....anyone else having this issue? I had set updates to manual....now changed to disabled.

Unless someone here can verify this 'update' is safe and won't have the negative effects it had this past Spring??

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by ResearchMed » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:13 pm

F150HD wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:08 pm
Strange....so sitting here working and this pops up....anyone else having this issue? I had set updates to manual....now changed to disabled.

Unless someone here can verify this 'update' is safe and won't have the negative effects it had this past Spring??

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I had that problem previously with the ultra-long time needed for that update.

Since then, including in the past few days, these types of updates/re-starts have taken almost no time.

However, that may/may not be the same on other computers...

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by F150HD » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:15 pm

ResearchMed wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:13 pm


I had that problem previously with the ultra-long time needed for that update.

Since then, including in the past few days, these types of updates/re-starts have taken almost no time.

However, that may/may not be the same on other computers...

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Thanks but its not the 'time' to update, the update in Spring wreaked havoc on my system so I uninstalled it, I believe many people did. That was the crux of my post.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by ResearchMed » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:31 pm

F150HD wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:15 pm
ResearchMed wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:13 pm


I had that problem previously with the ultra-long time needed for that update.

Since then, including in the past few days, these types of updates/re-starts have taken almost no time.

However, that may/may not be the same on other computers...

RM
Thanks but its not the 'time' to update, the update in Spring wreaked havoc on my system so I uninstalled it, I believe many people did. That was the crux of my post.
Oh.
Well, keeping my laptop unusable for many hours (MANY), during which I had no idea if it would even be functional whenever "whatever was happening, had happened/finished", that was "not okay".

And too many settings got changed.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by 2015 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:49 am

ResearchMed wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:31 pm
F150HD wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:15 pm
ResearchMed wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:13 pm


I had that problem previously with the ultra-long time needed for that update.

Since then, including in the past few days, these types of updates/re-starts have taken almost no time.

However, that may/may not be the same on other computers...

RM
Thanks but its not the 'time' to update, the update in Spring wreaked havoc on my system so I uninstalled it, I believe many people did. That was the crux of my post.
Oh.
Well, keeping my laptop unusable for many hours (MANY), during which I had no idea if it would even be functional whenever "whatever was happening, had happened/finished", that was "not okay".

And too many settings got changed.

RM
This is exactly why I posted long ago when windoze 10 was rolled out that I would wait until the early adopter road kill had been victims of microsoft's blunders. I have yet to install windoze 10, still with 8.1. When the laptop dies seriously considering going to a mac. I've absolutely had it with all things MacroHard.

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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by F150HD » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:26 pm

So....I have disabled updates etc etc....then this pops up today???

I saw one can 'schedule' when this occurs, so I chose next Friday so I have some time to read up on this.
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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by jebmke » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:34 pm

F150HD wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:26 pm
So....I have disabled updates etc etc....then this pops up today???

I saw one can 'schedule' when this occurs, so I chose next Friday so I have some time to read up on this.
This appears to be a normal cumulative update to build 1803. I do not think this is a major upgrade to 1809.

How did you disable updates? It appears it has already been partially installed and will complete installation next time you reboot the machine. I think the completion will occur even if you restart the machine normally prior to this auto restart.

All of my TaxAide laptops will be at 1803 and we will keep them there for the duration of the season. But normal updates and security patches will flow through and update the machines.
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Re: Warning: avoid Windows 10 update 1803

Post by nisiprius » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:46 pm

sksbog wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 10:43 am
...I never decline updates. If they break something next update would fix it...
Twice, automatic updates put my wife's Windows 10 computer into a state in which it would not startup. Once startup is broken, how can the "next update" fix it?

(Both times I was eventually able to recover by restoring her machine to a previous checkpoint... I believe by booting into safe mode or something. That procedure was rendered difficult by the fact that Microsoft keeps changing the name and menu hierarchy location of the checkpointing tool--why? why?--and by the fact that it uses almost the same name for a) a fairly harmless utility that rolls your system back to the last update, and b) a highly destructive utility that wipes your disk and restores the machine to the original factory software load).
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