How did you tell the boss you're leaving/retiring?

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Re: How did you tell the boss you're leaving/retiring?

Post by steve roy » Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:35 am

Happily, I WAS the boss. So all it took was me telling me “I’m leaving as of December 7, 2016” and it was a done deal.

(And I took my announcement of departure real well.)

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Re: How did you tell the boss you're leaving/retiring?

Post by samsoes » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:33 pm

Glockenspiel wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:15 am
munemaker wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:33 pm
I am quite surprised at the number of posters who have hostile feelings toward their employer. No wonder so many want to retire early.
This is America. Americans are working themselves to death and employers aren't helping the issue. I am surprised that so many people never want to retire.
These are the folks who will have difficulty in retirement. The office mentality has been their driving force for decades, and their career has been synonymous with their identity. It's as if they've never lived their lives and don't know how to start. Quite sad, actually.
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Re: How did you tell the boss you're leaving/retiring?

Post by fourwaystreet » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:05 pm

My idea was to tell my remote boss about six weeks from my planned retirement date but we were together at another remote location about 10 weeks out. He was / is a nice guy and I would have felt like a schmuck if I waited to tell him via email or phone later, so I told him earlier then I wanted. He mildly tried to talk me out of it but didn't get far. I told him I could be flexible on my final date but the decision was made. I left on the tentative date I gave him and never looked back. To the OP, leave when you want, it's your life not the company's.

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Re: How did you tell the boss you're leaving/retiring?

Post by Barefoot » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:03 pm

scrabbler1 wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:40 pm

Have any of you gone through exit interviews, usually with the HR people?
Twice. First time was years ago, when I was leaving a job I had been in for about 2 years. I gave them very specific details documenting that our program manager was lying to our customer. It gave me great pleasure to learn that he had been canned not long after I left.

Most recently, I was interviewed by the guy who is responsible for the care and feeding of our new hires. He regularly did the interviews with the young people when they moved on. I was the first retiring person he had interviewed. We had a pleasant chat, and I suggested some things he could do with our new hires, but I don't think there was any real value in that.

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Re: How did you tell the boss you're leaving/retiring?

Post by munemaker » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:13 pm

samsoes wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:33 pm
Glockenspiel wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:15 am
munemaker wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:33 pm
I am quite surprised at the number of posters who have hostile feelings toward their employer. No wonder so many want to retire early.
This is America. Americans are working themselves to death and employers aren't helping the issue. I am surprised that so many people never want to retire.
These are the folks who will have difficulty in retirement. The office mentality has been their driving force for decades, and their career has been synonymous with their identity. It's as if they've never lived their lives and don't know how to start. Quite sad, actually.
Trying to understand this: Are you saying that employees who are not hostile to their job and employer will have difficult in retirement? I liked my job, my boss, my employer, yet I am having no problems adapting to retirement.

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Re: How did you tell the boss you're leaving/retiring?

Post by unclescrooge » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:30 pm

samsoes wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:07 pm
A friend of mine announced his retirement by going into his boss' office late one afternoon and said, "By the way, today was my last day." He handed the boss his company-issued cellphone, walked out, and never looked back.

He's my inspiration.
I did that once. Very satisfying.

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Post by an_asker » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:52 pm

El Greco wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:27 am
by randomizer » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:09 pm

I fantasize about this conversation almost daily.
+24

I fantasize about it almost hourly :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Shouldn't that be a *24 as opposed to a +24? :confused

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Re: How did you tell the boss you're leaving/retiring?

Post by Earl Lemongrab » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:05 pm

munemaker wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:13 pm
samsoes wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:33 pm
These are the folks who will have difficulty in retirement. The office mentality has been their driving force for decades, and their career has been synonymous with their identity. It's as if they've never lived their lives and don't know how to start. Quite sad, actually.
Trying to understand this: Are you saying that employees who are not hostile to their job and employer will have difficult in retirement? I liked my job, my boss, my employer, yet I am having no problems adapting to retirement.
Some people, like Samoes, get a mindset. If you don't fit their view, you're doing it wrong. There are workplaces, including large companies, that are good places to work. I worked in aerospace for 33+ years, and generally it was a good experience. There are always going to be people that you don't get along with, but that was relatively uncommon. Most of my supervisors were good, not power-hungry or tyrants.

I retired not because I hated the place but because I had other things I wanted to do.
This week's fortune cookie: "Your financial life will be secure and beneficial." So I got that going for me, which is nice.

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Re: How did you tell the boss you're leaving/retiring?

Post by Outafter20 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:21 pm

I have been telling my boss over the last year that I am retiring June 30, 2020.

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Post by catdude » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:23 am

El Greco wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:27 am
by randomizer » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:09 pm

I fantasize about this conversation almost daily.
+24

I fantasize about it almost hourly :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
This isn't the kind of thing I usually fantasize about. 8-)
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Re: How did you tell the boss you're leaving/retiring?

Post by Bungo » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:32 am

Nick Lowe said it best:

I'm giving you my notice
And it works this way
In two weeks' time
You will notice I've been gone
For fourteen days


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsH3wY-nEkw

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Re: How did you tell the boss you're leaving/retiring?

Post by samsoes » Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:56 am

munemaker wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:13 pm
samsoes wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:33 pm
Glockenspiel wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:15 am
munemaker wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:33 pm
I am quite surprised at the number of posters who have hostile feelings toward their employer. No wonder so many want to retire early.
This is America. Americans are working themselves to death and employers aren't helping the issue. I am surprised that so many people never want to retire.
These are the folks who will have difficulty in retirement. The office mentality has been their driving force for decades, and their career has been synonymous with their identity. It's as if they've never lived their lives and don't know how to start. Quite sad, actually.
Trying to understand this: Are you saying that employees who are not hostile to their job and employer will have difficult in retirement? I liked my job, my boss, my employer, yet I am having no problems adapting to retirement.
I'm saying if your job defines who you are as a human being, there shall be great difficulty detaching from it when the time comes. When work was your social life and you haven't cultivated one outside of it, you won't know what to do with yourself when reitred, and you won't know where to start.

That's sad.
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Re: How did you tell the boss you're leaving/retiring?

Post by samsoes » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:51 am

Earl Lemongrab wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:05 pm
munemaker wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:13 pm
samsoes wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:33 pm
These are the folks who will have difficulty in retirement. The office mentality has been their driving force for decades, and their career has been synonymous with their identity. It's as if they've never lived their lives and don't know how to start. Quite sad, actually.
Trying to understand this: Are you saying that employees who are not hostile to their job and employer will have difficult in retirement? I liked my job, my boss, my employer, yet I am having no problems adapting to retirement.
Some people, like Samoes, get a mindset. If you don't fit their view, you're doing it wrong.
I can speak for myself, thank you very much. Please see my reply above.
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Post by DaftInvestor » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:57 am

Glockenspiel wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:15 am
munemaker wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:33 pm
I am quite surprised at the number of posters who have hostile feelings toward their employer. No wonder so many want to retire early.
This is America. Americans are working themselves to death and employers aren't helping the issue. I am surprised that so many people never want to retire.
Americans are working themselves to death - but not a number of bogleheads- we take a few minutes out of our busy days to participate in discussions such as this one :)
A lot of employers do help the issue actually - when I get to my max accrued vacation time my boss and HR start hassling me to take some time off. If you work for a company that doesn't care you really should try to find a better place to work. Contrary to what some here believe- a number of Americans find good work/life balance, are happy - or are least content - with their jobs - and in many cases their jobs do feed, cloth, and shelter then in ways that many others in the world envy.
It saddens me to hear folks here that apparently feel miserable in their jobs - you spend a lot of time at work - you should find ways to enjoy it - or seek something better.

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Post by Emilyjane » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:58 am

scrabbler1 wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:40 pm
Have any of you gone through exit interviews, usually with the HR people? I had one, but only because I requested it.
I was surprised that my “exit interview” after 22 years as a physician in a health system was a short written form. I thought about requesting an in person interview, but then thought, if they aren’t interested, why am I? I did send the form back, empty except for a comment that I thought an in person interview might provide useful feedback.

I shared my intention to retire a few years before I did, so we were able to recruit a replacement.
I ended up staying longer than originally planned as I worked until my replacement returned from maternity leave. Many of my patients expressed their gratitude for that, which was nice, since no administrator did.
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Post by aqan » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:03 am

randomizer wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:09 pm
I fantasize about this conversation almost daily.
you made my morning.
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Post by samsoes » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:29 am

randomizer wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:09 pm
I fantasize about this conversation almost daily.
I fantasize about it all the time as well, especially as I'm checking my State Stupidity Tax receipts (uh...I mean lottery tickets).

"Hey, you never know."
"All it takes is a dollar and a dream."
Etc.
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Re: How did you tell the boss you're leaving/retiring?

Post by scottinmet » Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:10 am

fsrph wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:08 pm
I've known for quite a while that it's time to retire but I don't know how my boss is going to react. Boss is very unpredictable and may make me feel uncomfortable with my decision. I'm obsessing on how this conversation will go and I am frozen in inaction.

How did you handle this conversation? How did your boss react? Is it normal to be nervous? Any tips you can share? Thanks.

Francis
For ideas check out Nixon's resignation speech, just substitute your work related information for his reasons. As long as you don't say 'I shall retire effective at noon tomorrow', your boss won't know where you lifted it from. Having a prepared speech will also help the conversation stay on script.

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Post by veindoc » Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:14 am

You don’t say why you are uncomfortable telling your boss but when you do give notice, be prepared to leave at any time if it becomes toxic.

I recently left work and was very apprehensive about doing so. The reality was that I was burnt out but I didn’t want to share that with my colleagues or boss. Mostly because I knew they would encourage me to stay and knowing me I would feel guilty for just ditching.

In the end I wrote an email saying I was seeking another opportunity. I did not interact with all the people I sent the letter to on a daily basis. So I just waited for their email response and when I ran in to them it was simply a “sorry you are leaving. Wish you could stay.” Since the email was sent to multiple people my theory was that they knew I meant business and were less likely to harass me into staying.

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Post by traineeinvestor » Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:22 am

I told my local managing partner + another partner I was close to about a year before I FIRE'd.

They were fine with it - congratulated me. We'd worked together for 20+ years and still socialise on a regular basis. Both have since followed me into retirement.

I gave the firm about nine months notice - and everyone was fine with that. The advantage of the longer notice period was I was able to avoid a lot of admin type work during the notice period, which left more time for other things.

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Post by pascalwager » Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:59 am

I emailed my manager (his cubicle was about 20 strides distance) long in advance-maybe a year-I don't remember. I didn't want a party, but we had a small lunch. I was 69, but what finally motivated me to retire was the upcoming employee contract-much inferior to the existing contract.

I retired, took off a week, and then was back in my old cubicle for over two more years as a half-time contract worker. I might have stayed even longer, but the company had a new agreement with the employees associations to limit contract work to two years. My manager occasionally sends me a brief eMessage.

I guess I'm FIRL now, where L = late.

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Post by SrGrumpy » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:15 am

Earl Lemongrab wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:53 pm
Not all companies work the same. I worked at Megacorp for 33+ years, and I wasn't unusual at all. They generally took care of salaried employees pretty well.
I'd venture to say things are a bit different now in the American workplace, hence your showdown with @samsoes, who may have a more contemporary view. Salaried employees are blinded by a blizzard of office bureaucracy, and are getting stuck with the ever increasing tabs as employers shift the burden of healthcare costs. Margins are being squeezed, so I get that, and bosses have their own PITA bosses. Still, resentment festers among the troops. I'm sure there were resentments in the olden days, but I'm also sure that folks starting out now have no hope of being well taken care of for 33+ years. Ergo, when it's time to go, just go. We're all disposable anyway.

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Post by Hyperborea » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:35 am

SrGrumpy wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:52 pm
Watty wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:11 pm
you are not as indispensable as you might want to think.
Yep. The right answer.
I like this reminder of how important we all are and how much of a problem our retirement will cause for the corporation. Somebody posted this years ago on one of the original early retirement discussion boards.

The Indispensable man
by Saxon White Kessinger

Sometimes, when you're feeling important,
Sometimes, when your ego's in bloom,
Sometimes, when you take it for granted
You're the best qualified in the room.

Sometimes, when you feel that your going
Would leave an unfilled hole,
Just follow this simple instruction,
and see how it humbles your soul:

Take a bucket and fill it with water,
Put your hand in it up to the wrist,
Pull it out and the hole that's remaining
Is a measure of how you'll be missed.

You may splash all you please when you enter,
You can stir up the water galore,
But stop, and you'll find in a minute
That it looks quite the same as before.

The moral of this quaint example
Is to do just the best that you can;
Be proud of yourself, but remember,
There is no indispensable man.
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Re: How did you tell the boss you're leaving/retiring?

Post by galectin » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:31 pm

Emilyjane wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:58 am
scrabbler1 wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:40 pm
Have any of you gone through exit interviews, usually with the HR people? I had one, but only because I requested it.
I was surprised that my “exit interview” after 22 years as a physician in a health system was a short written form. I thought about requesting an in person interview, but then thought, if they aren’t interested, why am I? I did send the form back, empty except for a comment that I thought an in person interview might provide useful feedback.

I shared my intention to retire a few years before I did, so we were able to recruit a replacement.
I ended up staying longer than originally planned as I worked until my replacement returned from maternity leave. Many of my patients expressed their gratitude for that, which was nice, since no administrator did.
I retired last year after thirty years as a Ph.D. faculty member in the biochemistry dept. of a medical school. I gave plenty of advance notice and stayed for six months longer than I had planned because they were redesigning the curriculum for the following year and there would have been about 20 lectures left for others to cover for a single year.

There was no exit interview with HR, the dept. chairman, dean, or anybody in the administration. After three months I got a poorly designed questionnaire covering everybody who left the institution, both going to another job or retiring. One of the questions was "What was the most negative aspect of your employment at XXXX?" I answered, "I feel that I was treated quite shabbily by past and present members of the XXXX administration. On a positive note, this has made my adjustment to retirement quite easy and enjoyable."

A little snarky, I'll admit. I haven't had any further contact from them.

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Post by tnr » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:01 pm

I took early retirement from megacorp. The last 2 years were rough with my boss giving me low performance ratings but no solid reasons why or how to improve. I felt was simply being forced out because of age/salary.

I gave 6 weeks written notice but was prepared to leave immediately once I handed it to my boss. He wan’t surprised. I also indicated my new job I was going to - it was not a competitor. I admit that I did this just to document to management that I still had skills that were valued.

There was no exit interview. A few colleagues and I went out to lunch but I expressly asked that no management attend. Thankfully, I like my new job and time has eased some of the bitterness. Have to admit I feel some schadenfreude when I read about my old company’s continual downsizing.

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Post by pascalwager » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:34 am

I once received a letter from a doctor (specialist) I had visited about twice a year for a few years. He explained that his organization was forcing him to retire and he was requesting supportive letters from patients be sent to his management. I assume it was because of age, but he seemed quite competent, thorough and unhurried.

Anyway, he did retire as required, but probably missed his interaction with patients.

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Post by jpdion » Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:16 am

I retired when I was 62. I had a conversation with my boss (he asked) when I was about 60 indicating I was projecting leaving when I was 65. As things evolved, and the bull ran hard, my regular retirement calculator runs became more optimistic and the option for earlier retirement became clearer. Age 62 was the earliest I wanted to retire due to a retirement calculation rules, and when that approached I prepared to talk to the boss. But, he approached me first with an opportunity to lead a multi-year project before I could have the conversation. So, I had to say "no" and explain my change of plans, which he accepted with good grace. The timing was such That there was an orderly transition over about 6 months, as we sold our house, built a new one in Florida, and got all the ducks in a row to move. I found it best to be straight up with the boss so he could develop another option for the project.

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Post by FCM » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:04 am

I retired as a senior marketing manager from "megacorp" after 31 years of service and just after my 66th birthday. I told my boss in August of that year that I was going to retire sometime within the next few months, and he asked me to pick a date. I chose October 31st, which effectively gave him (and the company) 60+ days notice. He decided who (actually 2 people) should take over my responsibilities, and I worked with them over that period to get them up to speed. There was also some HR work that needed to be accomplished during that period as well, but the company had a well-defined process for taking care of that. When I turned in my laptop and walked out of the building on October 31st, it was one of the happiest days of my life.

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