2018 Honda Accord LX ... is this a good deal?

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2018 Honda Accord LX ... is this a good deal?

Post by kchico » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:44 pm

I am looking for a bigger than what we have right now and I found out that new Accord has more leg room than the 2016 RAV4 that wife drives and even the new CRV :shock: .

I contacted a few dealerships and here are the numbers:
2018 Accord LX no options MSRP $24,460
Sale Price: $21,000
OTD Price: $21,753.50

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Post by samsoes » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:46 pm

Check www.truecar.com - they were spot-on for me when I bought my new 2015 Accord.
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Post by Jack FFR1846 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:49 pm

samsoes wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:46 pm
Check www.truecar.com - they were spot-on for me when I bought my new 2015 Accord.
It's a good place to start. With my 14 Wrangler, I was able to get a few thousand below anything tru car told me could be done.
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Post by dsmclone » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:24 pm

Seems like a great deal on the base model, which usually isn't as discounted. Buying a car like this for just over $21k is such a good deal knowing how many miles/years you'll get out of it.

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Post by sunny_socal » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:27 pm

That seems "ok." I got an Accord Sport for the same price, but that was a few years ago.

I highly recommend the Sport over the LX, most useful options for only a little more money.

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Post by yukonjack » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:32 pm

Yes I would say that is a very good deal. I bought a 2018 Accord EX-L 2.0 three weeks ago and I felt like I got a pretty good deal but not as good as yours. I was surprised at the discount offered for the new Accord. I really wasn’t expecting much going into the deal but was satisfied with the outcome. My local dealer claimed that Honda was offering a month end rebate. Whether or not that is true I was happy with the discount.

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Post by inbox788 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:40 pm

Seems a little high to me, but is 2018 a new model [yes, looks like it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Acc ... 8–present) ]? A few years back an LX would go for around $18k. Is Honda Sensing safety features included [yes, looks like they made it standard]? I think you could get one with Honda Sensing for under $20k not too long ago. I did look at the Odyssey, and the 2018 seem to be about $2k more than the previous years with the new design. I haven't done a point by point comparison to see how significant the added features are, or mostly due to newness.
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So it looks like a pretty good deal, but you might do a little better if you negotiate hard. Getting under $20k might be challenging, but in September or December, it should be possible.

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Post by DVMResident » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:53 pm

The 2018 Accord Hybrid starts selling this Friday. Maybe playing a role in the pricing.
Following up on official fuel economy numbers, Honda has announced when the 2018 Honda Accord Hybrid midsize sedan goes on sale, and how much it will cost. It goes on sale on March 23, and it could cost you far less than the outgoing model, since Honda says the base model starts at a whopping $4,505 less than the old one.

That specific price is $25,990, which will net you the basic Accord Hybrid and includes destination charge. The base model includes 17-inch alloy wheels, dual-zone automatic climate control and adaptive cruise control, among other features. There are four other trims above Accord Hybrid that all append extra letters or words to the base name (and presumably features), including EX, EX-L, EX-L Navi, and Touring. Pricing for those trims, including destination charge, are as follows: $29,780, $32,330, $33,330 and $35,600.

It's also worth noting that Accord Hybrids are about a $1,400 to $1,500 premium over their turbocharged 1.5-liter Accord LX, EX and EX-L counterparts. The difference between hybrid and 1.5-liter Touring models is only about $900. That extra cost is somewhat offset by the fact the Accord Hybrid manages 47 mpg in all EPA fuel economy tests, and the 1.5-liter four-cylinder gets between 30 and 33 mpg combined, depending on the transmission.
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Post by dsmclone » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:59 pm

For those that don't know, the 2018 is a redesign and the car magazines are in love with it. Some have said that it's better than most $50k+ luxury cars. On the other hand, Honda is having trouble selling them (Sales down 20%) because everyone thinks they need an SUV and everyone else can only "afford" to lease.

I've had nearly every Honda made as well as most Acura's and I just don't get the fall of the sedan. I will tell you right now that a $25k Accord is better in nearly every way than any $25k small SUV.
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Post by Carl53 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:12 pm

Following up on official fuel economy numbers, Honda has announced when the 2018 Honda Accord Hybrid midsize sedan goes on sale, and how much it will cost. It goes on sale on March 23, and it could cost you far less than the outgoing model, since Honda says the base model starts at a whopping $4,505 less than the old one.

That specific price is $25,990, which will net you the basic Accord Hybrid and includes destination charge. The base model includes 17-inch alloy wheels, dual-zone automatic climate control and adaptive cruise control, among other features. There are four other trims above Accord Hybrid that all append extra letters or words to the base name (and presumably features), including EX, EX-L, EX-L Navi, and Touring. Pricing for those trims, including destination charge, are as follows: $29,780, $32,330, $33,330 and $35,600.

It's also worth noting that Accord Hybrids are about a $1,400 to $1,500 premium over their turbocharged 1.5-liter Accord LX, EX and EX-L counterparts. The difference between hybrid and 1.5-liter Touring models is only about $900. That extra cost is somewhat offset by the fact the Accord Hybrid manages 47 mpg in all EPA fuel economy tests, and the 1.5-liter four-cylinder gets between 30 and 33 mpg combined, depending on the transmission.
Is this the same engine in another current thread about CRVs that has a problem with gas leaking into the oil?

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Post by Alexa9 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:17 pm

Carl53 wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:12 pm
Is this the same engine in another current thread about CRVs that has a problem with gas leaking into the oil?
I would be worried about this. I bet you can get a deal on a 2017 Accord that is still a naturally aspirated engine and proven very reliable. The conservative styling on the 2017 is preferable as well with more headroom for rear passengers. The Camry is also a good option and I would guess you could get a better deal on one. The CVT transmission in the Accord is also not for everyone although I think it is excellent.

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Post by Texanbybirth » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:20 pm

Falls right on the dividing line (via Truecar) between "Excellent" and "Great" deal for my zip code. FWIW, the price you gave does fall on the largest bar on the chart, meaning LOTS of people seem to be getting that price on the same car. Apparently there are some really good negotiators out there. Well done!

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Post by HeadHunter » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:30 pm

dsmclone wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:59 pm
For those that don't know, the 2018 is a redesign and the car magazines are in love with it. Some have said that it's better than most $50k+ luxury cars. On the other hand, Honda is having trouble selling them (Sales down 20%) because everyone thinks they need an SUV and everyone else can only "afford" to lease.

I've had nearly every Honda made as well as most Acura's and I just don't get the fall of the sedan. I will tell you right now that a $25k Accord is better in nearly every way than a $25k CRV.
+1

Totally agree.

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Post by kjvmartin » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:34 pm

HeadHunter wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:30 pm
dsmclone wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:59 pm
For those that don't know, the 2018 is a redesign and the car magazines are in love with it. Some have said that it's better than most $50k+ luxury cars. On the other hand, Honda is having trouble selling them (Sales down 20%) because everyone thinks they need an SUV and everyone else can only "afford" to lease.

I've had nearly every Honda made as well as most Acura's and I just don't get the fall of the sedan. I will tell you right now that a $25k Accord is better in nearly every way than a $25k CRV.
+1

Totally agree.
Getting kids in and out of an Accord is a far more strenuous experience than a CR-V. Sedan may drive a bit better, but I think everyone is having kids these days and needs the convenience.

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Post by researcher » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:39 pm

dsmclone wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:59 pm
I will tell you right now that a $25k Accord is better in nearly every way than any $25k small SUV.
While I generally agree, there is one big deficiency...Cargo Volume
- Accord - 16.7 cu ft
- CRV - 39.2 cu ft

If the Accord came in a Wagon, or at least a hatchback model, I would be in the market.
But since these models are rarely available in the US, I'm stuck with buying a compact SUV.

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Post by JoeRetire » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:45 pm

The best car I ever owned was a Honda Accord.
I gave it to my daughter-in-law when it was 8 years old. Unfortunately a tree fell on it a year later and squashed it beyond repair.

Nobody was hurt, but a tear came to my eyes.

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Post by dsmclone » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:47 pm

researcher wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:39 pm
dsmclone wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:59 pm
I will tell you right now that a $25k Accord is better in nearly every way than any $25k small SUV.
While I generally agree, there is one big deficiency...Cargo Volume
- Accord - 16.7 cu ft
- CRV - 39.2 cu ft

If the Accord came in a Wagon, or at least a hatchback model, I would be in the market.
But since these models are rarely available in the US, I'm stuck with buying a compact SUV.
That's true, the CRV does have more cargo room. My wife and I had an Accord and an Acura RDX at the same time and I do remember one time in 5 years that we had to use the RDX to haul an end table that wouldn't fit in the Accord.

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Post by davidkw » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:55 pm

Great Point! I just may go with another Accord. Better gas mileage than a CRV
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Post by yukonjack » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:54 pm

dsmclone wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:59 pm
For those that don't know, the 2018 is a redesign and the car magazines are in love with it. Some have said that it's better than most $50k+ luxury cars. On the other hand, Honda is having trouble selling them (Sales down 20%) because everyone thinks they need an SUV and everyone else can only "afford" to lease.

I've had nearly every Honda made as well as most Acura's and I just don't get the fall of the sedan. I will tell you right now that a $25k Accord is better in nearly every way than any $25k small SUV.
IMO this is a good summary and probably explains why even a newly designed Accord can be bought at a discount.

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Post by researcher » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:55 pm

dsmclone wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:47 pm
That's true, the CRV does have more cargo room. My wife and I had an Accord and an Acura RDX at the same time and I do remember one time in 5 years that we had to use the RDX to haul an end table that wouldn't fit in the Accord.
It sounds like a sedan is a good fit for you then.

I've owned both an Accord and a Rav4 for the last 10+ years.
I use the SUV countless times every year to haul things that would be impossible in the Accord...
- Bulky items & lumber from Home Depot, Sam's Club, ect.
- Numerous pieces of furniture
- Road trips to the beach (with two kids in tow)
- Camping/fishing trips
- Bagged mulch & stone from the garden center

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Post by dwickenh » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:20 pm

Jack FFR1846 wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:49 pm
samsoes wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:46 pm
Check www.truecar.com - they were spot-on for me when I bought my new 2015 Accord.
It's a good place to start. With my 14 Wrangler, I was able to get a few thousand below anything tru car told me could be done.
Agree with being able to negotiate below true car. It worked for me also.
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Post by jminv » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:25 pm

Yes, it's a good price. It's below the true car price, for example.

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Post by ncbill » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:21 pm

take a hard look at the online reports of driver's seat "issues" on the new Accord.

takes longer than a test drive to show up, but I'd want to rent one for a week before buying.

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Post by rec7 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:53 pm

Carl53 wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:12 pm
Following up on official fuel economy numbers, Honda has announced when the 2018 Honda Accord Hybrid midsize sedan goes on sale, and how much it will cost. It goes on sale on March 23, and it could cost you far less than the outgoing model, since Honda says the base model starts at a whopping $4,505 less than the old one.

That specific price is $25,990, which will net you the basic Accord Hybrid and includes destination charge. The base model includes 17-inch alloy wheels, dual-zone automatic climate control and adaptive cruise control, among other features. There are four other trims above Accord Hybrid that all append extra letters or words to the base name (and presumably features), including EX, EX-L, EX-L Navi, and Touring. Pricing for those trims, including destination charge, are as follows: $29,780, $32,330, $33,330 and $35,600.

It's also worth noting that Accord Hybrids are about a $1,400 to $1,500 premium over their turbocharged 1.5-liter Accord LX, EX and EX-L counterparts. The difference between hybrid and 1.5-liter Touring models is only about $900. That extra cost is somewhat offset by the fact the Accord Hybrid manages 47 mpg in all EPA fuel economy tests, and the 1.5-liter four-cylinder gets between 30 and 33 mpg combined, depending on the transmission.
Is this the same engine in another current thread about CRVs that has a problem with gas leaking into the oil?
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Post by inbox788 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:25 am

researcher wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:39 pm
While I generally agree, there is one big deficiency...Cargo Volume
- Accord - 16.7 cu ft
- CRV - 39.2 cu ft

If the Accord came in a Wagon, or at least a hatchback model, I would be in the market.
But since these models are rarely available in the US, I'm stuck with buying a compact SUV.
The CRV is the Accord Wagon. It's also the Civic Hatchback. There was too much internal competition between these, and it was too much trouble to keep so many models, so the CRV is what remains as the most general of the choices.

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Post by Boglebud » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:56 am

I have test driven Accords and Acura’s. In both cases I felt like I was driving a lightweight, overpriced, tin can. I know they are reliable and last, but they need to improve the ride A LOT.

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Post by dsmclone » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:04 am

Boglebud wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:56 am
I have test driven Accords and Acura’s. In both cases I felt like I was driving a lightweight, overpriced, tin can. I know they are reliable and last, but they need to improve the ride A LOT.
You've either haven't driven an Accord or Acura in a long time or your idea of a tin can is different than mine. I've owned some of the best luxury cars out there (Infiniti, Lexus, BMW, Acura, and Audi) and some of the Acura's need to improve but none of the high end ones are "tin cans". As far as the Accord, name a car in it's segment that rides better. In the past, the only thing that I would say the Accord could improve on compared to the competition is wind noise.

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Post by BlueCable » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:19 am

inbox788 wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:25 am

The CRV is the Accord Wagon. It's also the Civic Hatchback.

There actually is a Civic hatchback again.
https://automobiles.honda.com/civic-hatchback

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Post by dodecahedron » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:20 am

dsmclone wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:59 pm
For those that don't know, the 2018 is a redesign and the car magazines are in love with it. Some have said that it's better than most $50k+ luxury cars. On the other hand, Honda is having trouble selling them (Sales down 20%) because everyone thinks they need an SUV and everyone else can only "afford" to lease.

I've had nearly every Honda made as well as most Acura's and I just don't get the fall of the sedan. I will tell you right now that a $25k Accord is better in nearly every way than any $25k small SUV.
I don't "get" the SUV thing either. But then again, I don't get the whole driving thing either. I am quite happy with my 2003 and 2007 Accords (with 70,000 miles give or take on each.) I am hoping to hang on to them and use them moderately and judiciously until such time as completely reliable self-driving Accords become available. And then I hope there will be an arrangement where I don't actually need to own one--just summon one as needed on demand to take me where I want to go.

Would be even happier with better public transit.

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Post by eg1 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:33 am

I don't have any input on the price but I will advice you don't get the LX. I had a 2015 that I ended up trading in a little over a year into ownership due to the discomfort of the drivers seat. The way the seat is positioned and the lack of thigh support and the inability of being able to tilt the bottom of the seat made the seat extremely uncomfortable for me. Get the EX, the standard equipment is much better, you get power seats and whatever extra you pay on the initial purchase you will be able to make up during the trade in.

In terms of CRV and accord size, you have consider the CRV is built on the civic platform. One is a compact SUV and the other is a midsize/large sedan.

As somebody that had always driven sedans and bought a crossover as my last vehicle, I can tell you I think the crossovers are better at almost all aspects and I am not surprised they sell much better than sedans. Just to name a few things that I think cross overs do better: the cargo capacity is huge, entry/exit is easier, loading kids in/taking them out is easier, visibility is better and much better in bad weather with AWD. The only disadvantage I can think of is fuel mileage. My outback has averaged 27mpg over its lifetime, my accord was at 32mpg when I traded it in. 5mpg hit I take by owning a crossover is well worth the advantages in my opinion. I don't think I will ever buy a sedan in the future. I wish the accord came in a wagon format - I would have definitely considered it.
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Post by dsmclone » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:34 am

I've given up trying to talk my wife out of a small SUV. She has had 3 in a row and "likes sitting high in the air". Whatever. If she ever loses her job maybe I'll get her to drive semi since they sit high in the air.

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Post by sunny_socal » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:48 am

eg1 wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:33 am
I don't have any input on the price but I will advice you don't get the LX. I had a 2015 that I ended up trading in a little over a year into ownership due to the discomfort of the drivers seat. The way the seat is positioned and the lack of thigh support and the inability of being able to tilt the bottom of the seat made the seat extremely uncomfortable for me. Get the EX, the standard equipment is much better, you get power seats and whatever extra you pay on the initial purchase you will be able to make up during the trade in.

In terms of CRV and accord size, you have consider the CRV is built on the civic platform. One is a compact SUV and the other is a midsize/large sedan.

As somebody that had always driven sedans and bought a crossover as my last vehicle, I can tell you I think the crossovers are better at almost all aspects and I am not surprised they sell much better than sedans. Just to name a few things that I think cross overs do better: the cargo capacity is huge, entry/exit is easier, loading kids in/taking them out is easier, visibility is better and much better in bad weather with AWD. The only disadvantage I can think of is fuel mileage. My outback has averaged 27mpg over its lifetime, my accord was at 32mpg when I traded it in. 5mpg hit I take by owning a crossover is well worth the advantages in my opinion. I don't think I will ever buy a sedan in the future. I wish the accord came in a wagon format - I would have definitely considered it.
+1 on the seat issues.

I have a Sport which has all the seat adjustments of the better models. Even this one can be uncomfortable:
- The seat is rather hard
- The head rest tilts forward and doesn't allow proper neck alignment (I ended up bending the bars on the head rest)

I couldn't even imagine driving an Accord LX. Any SUV would be more comfortable. I'm probably driving my last Accord! The drive train is great and I love the 2.4L non-turbo engine but it's not a very comfortable car for me.

My wife's XC90 - wow! :D 8-)

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Post by researcher » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:09 am

inbox788 wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:25 am
The CRV is the Accord Wagon. It's also the Civic Hatchback. There was too much internal competition between these, and it was too much trouble to keep so many models, so the CRV is what remains as the most general of the choices.
The sharing of vehicle platforms (as all automakers do) does not mean the CRV is the Accord wagon. The CRV would need to get rid of...
- The jacked-up stance, with high center of gravity and comparatively poor handling.
- The hideous attempt at styling.
- All of the ridiculous black plastic cladding used to make it look "tough."

In reality, Americans simply don't want to drive wagons (or even sedans) anymore. Manufacturers are still making true wagons, they just don't sell them in America...
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015 ... he-us.html
https://www.montway.com/blog/top-10-wag ... n-america/
http://www.automobilemag.com/news/seven ... 7-edition/

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Post by kchico » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:49 am

eg1 wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:33 am
I don't have any input on the price but I will advice you don't get the LX. I had a 2015 that I ended up trading in a little over a year into ownership due to the discomfort of the drivers seat. The way the seat is positioned and the lack of thigh support and the inability of being able to tilt the bottom of the seat made the seat extremely uncomfortable for me. Get the EX, the standard equipment is much better, you get power seats and whatever extra you pay on the initial purchase you will be able to make up during the trade in.

In terms of CRV and accord size, you have consider the CRV is built on the civic platform. One is a compact SUV and the other is a midsize/large sedan.

As somebody that had always driven sedans and bought a crossover as my last vehicle, I can tell you I think the crossovers are better at almost all aspects and I am not surprised they sell much better than sedans. Just to name a few things that I think cross overs do better: the cargo capacity is huge, entry/exit is easier, loading kids in/taking them out is easier, visibility is better and much better in bad weather with AWD. The only disadvantage I can think of is fuel mileage. My outback has averaged 27mpg over its lifetime, my accord was at 32mpg when I traded it in. 5mpg hit I take by owning a crossover is well worth the advantages in my opinion. I don't think I will ever buy a sedan in the future. I wish the accord came in a wagon format - I would have definitely considered it.
Are the new seats that bad? From my research it seems that car with options depreciate more than base cars a d the EX cots a lot more.

Thanks everyone it seems that in gereneral is a really good deal. I also considered the CRV but like some people said we don't really carry stuff around in my wife's RAV so all that cargo space is wasted. I rather take advantages for the better mpg.

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Re: 2018 Honda Accord LX ... is this a good deal?

Post by eg1 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:46 am

kchico wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:49 am

Are the new seats that bad? From my research it seems that car with options depreciate more than base cars a d the EX cots a lot more.

Thanks everyone it seems that in gereneral is a really good deal. I also considered the CRV but like some people said we don't really carry stuff around in my wife's RAV so all that cargo space is wasted. I rather take advantages for the better mpg.
The new seats are bad... I think it might have to do with cost cutting and safety standards but the accord was the first car that gave me any issues with seats. No issues with my new car however.

Here is my quick unscientific study on depreciation values. I went onto auto trader and put in a search for a 2015 accord under 45K miles, the average price for an EX is 17K while average price for LX is 15200. The LX on average is 1800 dollars cheaper. According to true value the EX brand new is $26058 while the lx $22500 - LX is 3500 cheaper. IMO, for an extra $1700 the EX is a better value and is the sweet spot in terms of price vs options.

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Re: 2018 Honda Accord LX ... is this a good deal?

Post by WhiteMaxima » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:50 am

make sure the 1.5L turbo engine doesn't have the engine oil dilution problem. The 1.5L and 2.0L turbo engine are relatively new. I would wait till all the bugs fixed.

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Post by inbox788 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:04 pm

[Is the 2018 Accord engine caught up in any way in the Civic/CRV fuel/oil situation -- "oil smells like gas"?]
BlueCable wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:19 am
There actually is a Civic hatchback again.
https://automobiles.honda.com/civic-hatchback
Yes it is!
researcher wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:09 am
In reality, Americans simply don't want to drive wagons (or even sedans) anymore. Manufacturers are still making true wagons, they just don't sell them in America...
There are so many choices and possible combinations now that sedans are getting lower priority and wagons are below minivans. When filling the grid of options, the Civic Hatchback might be the current closest choice to your Accord Wagon available. Others may choose the CRV. Recent options that went away are the Crosstour and the TSX Wagon/Sportwagon, but used is always an option. Let's hope the current Civic Hatchback doesn't go the same route like it's done in the past.

In some ways, the Odyssey is also a competitor to the Accord Wagon. Sales from one model or another cannibalize sales until there just isn't enough critical mass to remain viable.

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Post by tennisplyr » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:29 pm

Just do it, I've owned Honda Accords since 1983 with virtually no problems. Currently own a 2016 EX and love it.
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Post by inbox788 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:33 pm

WhiteMaxima wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:50 am
make sure the 1.5L turbo engine doesn't have the engine oil dilution problem. The 1.5L and 2.0L turbo engine are relatively new. I would wait till all the bugs fixed.
So far the worst effects are with CRVs, but Civics probably aren't far behind.
Honda stops selling new CR-Vs in China after recall plan rejected
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hond ... SKCN1GE1P8
L15B7 VTC Turbo
Found in:
2016/2017 Honda Civic turbo non-LX/EX (US, Canada, China), 2017 Honda Civic Si Turbo (US & Canada), 2016/2017 Honda CR-V non-LX (USDM, China), 2017 Acura CDX (China), and 2018 Honda Accord (US & Canada)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_L_e ... _VTC_Turbo

However, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Acc ... 8–present) reports
Powertrain
Engine 1.5 L L15BE[50] I4 (turbo)
2.0 L K20C4[50] I4 (turbo)
and links to this PDF
CV1 Accord / L15BE
FC3 Civic 2-Dr. / L15B7
FC1 Civic 4-Dr. / L15B7
http://techinfo.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs ... A07148.PDF

So if we're lucky, the Accord has the L15BE and not the L15B7 and is spared those problems. Or maybe not. Should have looked further down:
RW1 CR-V 2WD / L15BE
RW2 CR-V 4WD / L15BE

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Post by davidkw » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:00 pm

The Accord has the same 1.5 engine
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Post by rgs92 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:40 pm

I need more legroom and after trying the Camry/Avalon/Accord/(Some Subaru)/Volkswagon Jetta/Passat,
I found the Nissan Maxima to be the best in this respect.
I am talking about front legroom. The Maxima is a pretty comfy for a car in this class (smallish cars in my book).
The driving position is also good; not too low.
I like the Platinum version.

As far as the Accord goes (I shopped for them for a while), the only decent one I found acceptable to buy would be the EX-L V6.
The lower models were just too spartan-feeling.
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Post by inbox788 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:44 pm

davidkw wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:00 pm
The Accord has the same 1.5 engine
Oh, no!
2017 181.177
2016 180.319
http://carsalesbase.com/china-car-sales ... onda-cr-v/
2017 173.865
2016 90.014
http://carsalesbase.com/china-car-sales ... nda-civic/
The CRV had more earlier sales, which is probably why the problem appears there first.
2017 150.365
http://carsalesbase.com/china-car-sales ... da-accord/
The Accord with the problem engine is listed as US/Canada 2018 only, so the Chinese Accord listed here might have a different engine. Canada could be the canary.

Looks like Honda has quite a problem on their hands with this oil/fuel issue. I'd avoid this engine for the time being, and possibly forever!

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Re: 2018 Honda Accord LX ... is this a good deal?

Post by jcchen » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:16 pm

Last month I bought a 2018 Accord EX for 23.8k (which includes destination, dealer fees) and 25.5k otd (boston). This price is about $1000 less than the lowest truecar exceptional nationwide. Your price is decent but maybe you can get another $500 off. I also considered the LX trim but wanted the blindspot, rear traffic alerts and android auto.

So far, only 2017 cr-v and civic's have reported oil dilution. Hopefully, the Accord engine is tuned differently as I drove my car in the winter for short trips. Another car to consider is the 2018 Camry. It is quieter and more reliable than the Accord, and the 2018 Camry's handling seems better than 2017 Camry. also, I get the sense from the web that Toyota is offering more incentives than Honda.

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Re: 2018 Honda Accord LX ... is this a good deal?

Post by Boglebud » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:39 pm

dsmclone wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:04 am
Boglebud wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:56 am
I have test driven Accords and Acura’s. In both cases I felt like I was driving a lightweight, overpriced, tin can. I know they are reliable and last, but they need to improve the ride A LOT.
You've either haven't driven an Accord or Acura in a long time or your idea of a tin can is different than mine. I've owned some of the best luxury cars out there (Infiniti, Lexus, BMW, Acura, and Audi) and some of the Acura's need to improve but none of the high end ones are "tin cans". As far as the Accord, name a car in it's segment that rides better. In the past, the only thing that I would say the Accord could improve on compared to the competition is wind noise.
Just last year. The Accord felt like a cheap hollow shell on solid rubber tires. Sounded like one too. The Camry is a far better car in its class.

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Post by davidkw » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:17 am

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Camry's handling seems better than 2017 Camry. also, I get the sense from the web that Toyota is offering more incentives than Honda.
Toyota typically does offer more incentives than Honda. Expect more as summer approaches too to clear out the lot.
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