Anyone watching Ari Melber's "The Beat"?

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Anyone watching Ari Melber's "The Beat"?

Post by azurekep » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:51 pm

"The Beat" has been on MSNBC only since July, but it's definitiely a welcome addition. Melber is a lawyer and he breaks down legal issues in a way that's educatonal. He's a man on a mission to bring order to the legal chaos we normally see on the news. My only nit is that he sometimes cuts off a guest's comments, but he does it respectfully and out of a desire to keep on topic so as to complete his educational presentation.

There are other commentators/anchors I like, but Ari is the most level-headed of the bunch and devoted solely to education.

I'm not able to watch the show as often as I'd like. I'm curious if the show is as consistently good as it seems to me in my scattered viewings.

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Re: Anyone watching Ari Melber's "The Beat"?

Post by E5797 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:35 pm

I enjoy and watch most afternoons. I think he has some trouble with small talk with guests, but otherwise he's great.

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Re: Anyone watching Ari Melber's "The Beat"?

Post by l3v3lq4rt » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:42 pm

I definitely enjoy Melber, and I could see him being slotted into the Chris Matthews spot if/when they retire him due to this whole sexual harassment scandal (although...not holding my breath on that one). The whole MSNBC nighttime lineup is interesting. Chuck Todd isn't dynamic but comes with bona fides. Melber is ultra-solid with a sense of humor, definitely a rising star. Matthews will probably always be there, talking over guests. Chris Hayes is good & conversant in a different way than Melber, and seems to know how to book good guests. Rachel Maddow is probably their best nighttime commodity (esp. considering that the rest are all men) and I'm routinely impressed with her and her staff's careful crafting of a nighttime news narrative. Lawrence O'Donnell is a tough listen for me, I really don't get the allure. Brian Williams has completed his redemption tour and carved out a niche for himself, both late at night and during breaking news. If I had my way I'd get rid of O'Donnell and Matthews, put Melber in Matthews' spot, and get more women and/or POC in to work out some new shows/material.

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Re: Anyone watching Ari Melber's "The Beat"?

Post by steve roy » Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:44 am

I'm a Maddow fan, but I time-delay her show and jump through parts of it because she has a lot of windup before each pitch. (Like, I don't need the same information three times in the opening twenty-minute segment.) But she usually has interesting takes on the day's events, plus she's wicked smart, owns lots of charisma, and thinks nimbly on her feet.

Lawrence O'Donnell knows all of the above, also that Rachel is a ratings engine. Which is why Lawrence often pulls her into the first five minutes of his hour for some back-and-forth after the show hand off.

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Re: Anyone watching Ari Melber's "The Beat"?

Post by craimund » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:24 am

As a conservative open to hearing well articulated positions from the other end of the political spectrum, I haven't been able to sit through more than 5 minutes of anything on MSNBC or CNN since the 2016 election. Trump delusion syndrome is real. My impression is that MSNBC does not allow opposing viewpoints at all on the network now that Scarborough is as rabidly anti-Trump if not more so than anyone else on the network. Their idea of "balance" appears to be having a Republican who hates Trump "debate" a Democrat who hates Trump on the merits of Trump.

From what I have been able to tolerate, Melber seems less rabidly anti-Trump than others on the network. Everything is Russia collusion or the scandal du jour (e.g., Rob Porter, porn start payoff). Policy takes a back seat.

Can't stand most things on Fox either. Do enjoy Tucker Carlson (who does bring on people he disagrees with) although he can't seem to get any high level Democrats to come on his show. Laura Ingraham is OK but Hannity is boring in my view.
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Re: Anyone watching Ari Melber's "The Beat"?

Post by denovo » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:04 am

azurekep wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:51 pm
"The Beat" has been on MSNBC only since July, but it's definitiely a welcome addition. Melber is a lawyer and he breaks down legal issues in a way that's educatonal. He's a man on a mission to bring order to the legal chaos we normally see on the news. My only nit is that he sometimes cuts off a guest's comments, but he does it respectfully and out of a desire to keep on topic so as to complete his educational presentation.

There are other commentators/anchors I like, but Ari is the most level-headed of the bunch and devoted solely to education.

I'm not able to watch the show as often as I'd like. I'm curious if the show is as consistently good as it seems to me in my scattered viewings.
Just a general comment, if you are interested in legal issues, there are quite a few blogs run by law professors that discuss issues of the day.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/ is a really good one.
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Re: Anyone watching Ari Melber's "The Beat"?

Post by azurekep » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:14 pm

steve roy wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:44 am
I'm a Maddow fan, but I time-delay her show and jump through parts of it because she has a lot of windup before each pitch. (Like, I don't need the same information three times in the opening twenty-minute segment.) But she usually has interesting takes on the day's events, plus she's wicked smart, owns lots of charisma, and thinks nimbly on her feet.
Maddow is da bomb. For all the reasons you mention.

I love that she gets away with using her hands to talk and it actually adds to what she's saying. Take THAT! all you presentation experts who tell us to sit on our hands. Chris Cirillo (?) at CNN does the same thing. He's a very likeable guest who gets enthusiastic when he talks. I always fear for the guests who sit next to him, thinking they may be the victim of one of his more expansive gesticulations.

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Re: Anyone watching Ari Melber's "The Beat"?

Post by azurekep » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:42 pm

craimund wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:24 am
My impression is that MSNBC does not allow opposing viewpoints at all on the network now that Scarborough is as rabidly anti-Trump if not more so than anyone else on the network.
I think it depends on the time. When I watch MSNBC, my expectation is that it will be liberal and I'm frequently ticked off to see pro-Trump/RNC conservative guests. The discussions are friendly and the liberal host will call the conservative guest "my friend", so the bipartisan spirit is actually welcome when I look at it objectively. I"m only ticked off because it went against my expectations that MSNBC will give me the liberal slant.

On CNN, during the times I watch, it's a bit different. They'll occasionally bring on a conservative pro-Trumper to respond to a liberal or conservative anti-Trumper, but the conservative, while waiting to speak, will roll their eyes and smirk. I figure, if you want to have guests from both sides, at least tell them to control their body language. I'm willing to listen to the other side, and frequently do, but the snarky body language is the give-away that a guest is not going to present a well-reasoned argument and is simply going to present the partisan talking points they've been sent out to deliver.
From what I have been able to tolerate, Melber seems less rabidly anti-Trump than others on the network. Everything is Russia collusion or the scandal du jour (e.g., Rob Porter, porn start payoff). Policy takes a back seat.
To many of us, the Russia probe is the single most important thing going on. The porn scandals actually play into that in terms of showing a pattern of secret payoffs to avoid being blackmailed. These give clues as to the possibility of Kompromont (sp), and clues on how to "follow the money" by showing the pattern of using specially set-up LLC's, etc. If a show doesn't tie the porn scandals to the Russia probe or the underlying legal issues, then it's just going for the salacious. And indeed, a lot of reporting on the porn scandals has been merely salacious.

But yes, although Melber often is doing a Russia probe story, his intent is educational. It's hard to avoid discussions of politics when discussing the probe, but his intent is to clearly lay out the legal issues and separate the critical stuff from the noise. Importantly, he keeps an even, professional tone and avoids snarky facial expressions.

(I hope the mods will keep your post and mine in. We're merely using news examples to make a point on cable show recommendations. I think we've kept things at the adult level.)

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Re: Anyone watching Ari Melber's "The Beat"?

Post by azurekep » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:44 pm

denovo wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:04 am
Just a general comment, if you are interested in legal issues, there are quite a few blogs run by law professors that discuss issues of the day.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/ is a really good one.
It's an excellent blog. Lawyers are indeed windy with their long commentaries ;) , but I fully read the ones I'm interested in.

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Re: Anyone watching Ari Melber's "The Beat"?

Post by Murgatroyd » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:35 pm

For those of you inclined, Dorf on Law is another website penned by liberal law professors. http://www.dorfonlaw.org/

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Re: Anyone watching Ari Melber's "The Beat"?

Post by azurekep » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:47 pm

Does anyone know Ari's connection with music? I originally thought the "The Beat" referred to beat reporting, but he's made a number of allusions to music and in some cases has quoted lyrics. I get that he must be a huge music fan, but I'm wondering if he has a side gig in a band or maybe he DJs.....

BTW, I'm digging his humor. I've started taping some of his shows and am seeing more of it.

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Re: Anyone watching Ari Melber's "The Beat"?

Post by FraggleRock » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:15 pm

Only the last few minutes of each show as I wait for Chris’ head to explode.
It really does not matter to me who is on MSNBC at 1700 when we sit down for appetizers and white/pink wine.

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