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hoops777
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Wheel alignment new tires

Post by hoops777 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:26 pm

We just had to replace the two rear tires on our BMWi3.It has very narrow tires and the rears normally last 18 to 20,000 miles.Question....should you always get a wheel alignment in this situation?The front tires on this model are actually a slightly different size than the rear.The car is 3 1/2 years old and has 18,800 miles.The dealer wanted 499 plus tax/fees for the tires and 299 for alignment.I bought the tires at Costco total price 376 including tax and fees.Costco does not do alignments.The dealer initially told me 599 for the tires but their email quote was 499,so not even sure which was correct,not that it matters.
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Re: Wheel alignment new tires

Post by Jack FFR1846 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:36 pm

$299 for alignment? Do you get an i8 loaner or something?

I wouldn't bother unless you've had some issue. Hit something that made the steering or handling change, uneven tire wear. I don't do alignments with new tires.
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Re: Wheel alignment new tires

Post by denovo » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:37 pm

20k is unusual wear for tires. Has someone been jamming that acceleration?
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Re: Wheel alignment new tires

Post by harrington » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:41 pm

Stop going to the dealer.....You should be able to buy 4 tires for that price. I just paid $149 for lifetime alignments. And yes you should get a wheel alignment or check it each time you buy tires. Good luck.

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Re: Wheel alignment new tires

Post by mnsportsgeek » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:43 pm

$299 for an alignment is robbery. You can get lifetime alignments at many places for $200 or less.

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Re: Wheel alignment new tires

Post by student » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:44 pm

Just a data point. For me, it is a no. (I did it once and it was not needed.)

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Re: Wheel alignment new tires

Post by Swansea » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:00 pm

My 1998 328i has never had an alignment. Tires have never worn unevenly, so I deemed it unnecessary.
Check Tire Rack for your next purchase. They have arrangements with local tire stores for installation and balancing. Also, if you are running performance tires (soft rubber), you will not get great mileage, but better performance.

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Re: Wheel alignment new tires

Post by barnaclebob » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:06 pm

I don't think new tires should be cause for an alignment for most cars. Nothing about the suspension geometry should have changed.

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Re: Wheel alignment new tires

Post by Khanmots » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:14 pm

Op, by narrow tires, I assume you're talking about the sidewall thickness (i.e., low-profile) and not the width of the tread?
denovo wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:37 pm
20k is unusual wear for tires. Has someone been jamming that acceleration?
Depends on the tires. I ran ultra high performance summer tires only for over 10 years. Depending on exactly which tire I ran I got from 15-22k from a set. I just treated a new set of tires every 1.5 years as an entertainment expense. And yeah, I had fun with the car or I might have gotten 25-30k if I drove like a Prius owner, but why have a sporty car if you're not going to have fun and abuse the tires at least a little bit? :D

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Re: Wheel alignment new tires

Post by aceoperations » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:22 pm

If your tires wore out too soon, you need to have your alignment checked with or without new tires. Poor alignment could wear out your new tires too soon.

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Re: Wheel alignment new tires

Post by denovo » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:33 pm

Khanmots wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:14 pm
Op, by narrow tires, I assume you're talking about the sidewall thickness (i.e., low-profile) and not the width of the tread?
denovo wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:37 pm
20k is unusual wear for tires. Has someone been jamming that acceleration?
Depends on the tires. I ran ultra high performance summer tires only for over 10 years. Depending on exactly which tire I ran I got from 15-22k from a set. I just treated a new set of tires every 1.5 years as an entertainment expense. And yeah, I had fun with the car or I might have gotten 25-30k if I drove like a Prius owner, but why have a sporty car if you're not going to have fun and abuse the tires at least a little bit? :D

I have no problem abusing the tires. Just wanted to make sure that's what OP was doing. If not, and the tires wore out that quickly, would indicate an issue.
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Re: Wheel alignment new tires

Post by inbox788 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:57 pm

hoops777 wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:26 pm
We just had to replace the two rear tires on our BMWi3.It has very narrow tires and the rears normally last 18 to 20,000 miles.Question....should you always get a wheel alignment in this situation?
A lot of new cars have poor mileage on their tires, especially factory new tires, and yours seems to be one of them. If you're getting 20k, that's par for the course. I wouldn't worry about alignment unless there was uneven tire wear (not inflation or balance issue) or the car is not going straight.

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Re: Wheel alignment new tires

Post by neilpilot » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:03 pm

I wonder if many of the responses above are made without realizing that the OP just replaced his rear tires? While I do understand that cars can have their rear tires out of alignment, most owners will never check and/or align the rear, only the front suspension.


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Re: Wheel alignment new tires

Post by Helo80 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:31 pm

Couple of thoughts...

1. From pure observation, it seems BMW puts on some factory negative camber on some of their models for the rear tires. For whatever reason, it is especially noticeable to me on their SUVs (larger tire)
2. Factory car tires seem to have gotten especially sucky in the last decade. My suspicions are that to hit certain EPA numbers and cost savings, crummy green tires are put on that don't last worth a darn.

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Re: Wheel alignment new tires

Post by hoops777 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:16 pm

The tires on the i3 are like bicycle tires compared to normal tires.The normal wear is about 18 to 20,000 for the rear..The front ones last a lot longer.It is an electric vehicle in case that makes any difference.
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