rec7 wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:14 pm
Valuethinker wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:30 pm
rec7 wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:47 am
mouses wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:46 am
Aren't the cups those things use environmental disasters?
True but think of all the plastic in your car.
That's not good logic. Drunk driving will kill me so I should not give up smoking?
Doing X will only save 20 dollars. But I waste 100 dollars here so there is no point?
Anyways cars last an average of 13.5 years. And car recycling is an area that has made huge strides. In 1980 USA had C 40m junk cars piled up. Now it has nearly zero, the technology made such huge strides. Source: Adam Junto Junkyard Planet (really entertaining book btw)
I see your point but today everything is made out of plastic. Razors, pens you name it.
But that does not justify me using more disposable plastic bags, or plastic water bottles, than absolutely necessary.
What you are saying, I think, is that not using Keurig cups is a small virtue. Agreed.
But I cannot determine how much plastic there is in my car (and it has advantages over heavier metals, say) or my phone. And cars do get recycled (although doubtless not all the plastic).
But i do have discretion over use of many one-off plastic items: I can reduce utilization.
The UK has managed to drop disposable plastic bag use by something like 85% just by introducing a 5p (cents) charge. It's not so much the cost, it is that it is a constant reminder that we don't need all these plastic bags when we shop.
That's several *billion* fewer plastic bags that go into landfill, and often wind up in the sea. Killing sea turtles and birds, and contaminating the food chain.
That's one country with a medium sized economy, not larger than California in GDP.
If we could do that with Nespresso and Keurig and other cups, that would be several billion that don't go into landfill and find their way into water bodies, and eventually the food chain. Or, we might force manufacturers to make ones which are biodegradable.
We are on a very big journey to not drown ourselves in our own effluent on this planet. Such a journey will require big steps.
But it will also require small ones.