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Post by Incendiary » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:43 am

I recently got a bidet add on from Amazon after reading endorsements on another forum. It's pretty awesome, I have to say. Does anyone else here use one? I got a Luxe Bidet Neo 185, which has male/female nozzles but only cold water. Pretty basic. Wondering what other features other BHs recommend or swear by.

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Post by stan1 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:47 am

Oh gosh, warm water sounds like a good idea.

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Post by Incendiary » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:55 am

stan1 wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:47 am
Oh gosh, warm water sounds like a good idea.
It's actually not so bad with cold water. :happy

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Post by BolderBoy » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:45 am

Incendiary wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:43 am
I recently got a bidet add on from Amazon after reading endorsements on another forum. It's pretty awesome, I have to say. Does anyone else here use one? I got a Luxe Bidet Neo 185, which has male/female nozzles but only cold water. Pretty basic. Wondering what other features other BHs recommend or swear by.
Cold water? You must be joking. Even the bidet we had in France in 1960 offered hot and cold water faucets.
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Post by Incendiary » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:47 am

BolderBoy wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:45 am
Incendiary wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:43 am
I recently got a bidet add on from Amazon after reading endorsements on another forum. It's pretty awesome, I have to say. Does anyone else here use one? I got a Luxe Bidet Neo 185, which has male/female nozzles but only cold water. Pretty basic. Wondering what other features other BHs recommend or swear by.
Cold water? You must be joking. Even the bidet we had in France in 1960 offered hot and cold water faucets.
Well, it cost extra and required a more complicated install and I wasn't even sure I'd like it. Now that I do, I'm open to getting a more full featured one. So, it sounds like warm water is one that is recommended... Anything else?

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Post by TravelGeek » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:50 am

BolderBoy wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:45 am
Cold water? You must be joking. Even the bidet we had in France in 1960 offered hot and cold water faucets.
Wimps :)

No easy way to connect hot water to the toilet in our master bathroom. Would be easier in our guest bathroom.

I’ll pass this on to my wife; after trips to Asia we usually debate whether to get a Toto toilet with a million buttons ;)

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Post by TomatoTomahto » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:57 am

TravelGeek wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:50 am
BolderBoy wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:45 am
Cold water? You must be joking. Even the bidet we had in France in 1960 offered hot and cold water faucets.
Wimps :)

No easy way to connect hot water to the toilet in our master bathroom. Would be easier in our guest bathroom.

I’ll pass this on to my wife; after trips to Asia we usually debate whether to get a Toto toilet with a million buttons ;)
DW and DS just returned from Japan. They are insisting that this is a must have addition in any future renovation.

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Post by ResearchMed » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:13 am

TravelGeek wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:50 am
BolderBoy wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:45 am
Cold water? You must be joking. Even the bidet we had in France in 1960 offered hot and cold water faucets.
Wimps :)

No easy way to connect hot water to the toilet in our master bathroom. Would be easier in our guest bathroom.

I’ll pass this on to my wife; after trips to Asia we usually debate whether to get a Toto toilet with a million buttons ;)
The bidet toilets/bidet seats that we've seen (in USA) don't require a hookup to hot water. They heat the water. It's just a connection to the same cold water piping that fills the tank.

We've considered this for some time, and after our recent trip to Japan, we'll probably get one.
The problem is, there are so many different types.
Even in Japan, in some hotels/Inns/Monasteries, each bidet was different, not just in terms of "features", but in terms of how they "worked" (e.g., the aim/nature of spray, etc. Some were more adjustable than others.

And yes, even at the Monastery where we stayed for 2 nights, all of the toilets were bidet toilets. That was quite a surprise, given the otherwise spartan accommodations/food (but it was a real highlight of our trip).

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Post by JamesSFO » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:17 am

Toto with heated water all the way.

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Post by ResearchMed » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:19 am

TomatoTomahto wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:57 am
TravelGeek wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:50 am
BolderBoy wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:45 am
Cold water? You must be joking. Even the bidet we had in France in 1960 offered hot and cold water faucets.
Wimps :)

No easy way to connect hot water to the toilet in our master bathroom. Would be easier in our guest bathroom.

I’ll pass this on to my wife; after trips to Asia we usually debate whether to get a Toto toilet with a million buttons ;)
DW and DS just returned from Japan. They are insisting that this is a must have addition in any future renovation.
They don't need to wait to do "renovations".
They should consider a bidet seat that will have quite a few of the regular features.

We can't decide whether to add a bidet seat or get a bidet toilet for the master bathroom, in which case we'd move the relatively new toilet to either the mail level lav, or to the guest suite bathroom.
We don't have room for a regular full bidet (which are a bit less convenient to use most of the time).

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Post by GerryL » Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:08 pm

Interesting discussion.
I just returned from a month in France where I stayed at 4 hotels and never saw a single bidet. Used to see them even in economy hotels. Times change.

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Post by dcnut » Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:46 pm

We installed a basic Kohler bidet toilet seat in March and really love it. I had absolutely no problem getting used to cold water (actually room temperature water), and would never even consider paying extra to have warm water. From an earlier experience, I can tell you that water which is too warm in a bidet will not be pleasant.

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Post by itstoomuch » Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:30 pm

I've bought maybe 9 for family, 20 years of use.
Go with electric models.
I use HomeTech (FeelFresh brand) because fairly priced. Has videos for install and repair. Install is simple and they give you tools (video, printed instructions with pictures, seat wrench) for install. USA office with service department and spare/replacement parts.
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Skip the blow dry (burns your butt) and deoderizer ( not effective/not big enough for me). Lighted seat and targeting is OK but at our ages (67/70) you either hit the pot or you don't.
Pulsing and positioning features are nice but they come with blow dry and deorderizer.
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Post by bluebolt » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:30 am

I bought the Toto Washlet S350e which is probably overkill for most people, but I really like it. Took about 20 minutes to install, no plumber necessary, though I had to get a new connector from the shut off valve to the toilet, which was only a few bucks. Most people wouldn't need to do that.

I would never consider a separate bidet, a washlet (integrated seat) is definitely the way to go.

Options range in cost from about $100 to almost $1000. You can get a great seat at the low end of the range. The sweet spot for features probably maxes out at $300-$400 with diminishing returns after that.

There's a reason 75% of Japanese homes have these things. They are amazing, especially if you have a sensitive bum.

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Post by ClevrChico » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:35 am

Incendiary wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:43 am
I recently got a bidet add on from Amazon after reading endorsements on another forum. It's pretty awesome, I have to say. Does anyone else here use one? I got a Luxe Bidet Neo 185, which has male/female nozzles but only cold water. Pretty basic. Wondering what other features other BHs recommend or swear by.
I have a basic handheld one that was $25 on Ebay. It connects up to the supply line of the tank for easy installation. Cold water is fine. Absolutely one of the best purchases I've made.

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Post by Sparky1500 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:39 am

Costco is having a great sale on a luxury bidet add-on seat. I ordered 2 as Christmas presents to us from us.

https://www.costco.com/Bio-Bidet-USPA-6 ... 15779.html

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Post by itstoomuch » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:51 am

^that's a great price and with a Costco standard return policy.
We now, only buy Costco TP for use as facial wipes, including as a napkin.
A roll will last for many weeks. :mrgreen:
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Post by Helo80 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:26 pm

No, thank you.

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Post by Helo80 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:27 pm

itstoomuch wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:51 am
^that's a great price and with a Costco standard return policy.

:| :shock: :| :shock:

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Post by tetractys » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:51 pm

Incendiary,
Please provide us with more information. Depending on where you live, the cost of running water may outweigh the cost of toilet paper. -- Tet
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Post by aqan » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:53 pm

Incendiary wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:55 am
stan1 wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:47 am
Oh gosh, warm water sounds like a good idea.
It's actually not so bad with cold water. :happy
i second that.. especially if you had something spicy the night before

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Post by aqan » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:54 pm

Sparky1500 wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:39 am
Costco is having a great sale on a luxury bidet add-on seat. I ordered 2 as Christmas presents to us from us.

https://www.costco.com/Bio-Bidet-USPA-6 ... 15779.html
you'll need a power outlet near the seat

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Post by aqan » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:56 pm

Incendiary wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:43 am
I recently got a bidet add on from Amazon after reading endorsements on another forum. It's pretty awesome, I have to say. Does anyone else here use one? I got a Luxe Bidet Neo 185, which has male/female nozzles but only cold water. Pretty basic. Wondering what other features other BHs recommend or swear by.
We got RinseWorks - Aquaus 360 Hand Held Bidet Sprayer. seemed more hygienic.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CF51ZJ2/

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Post by ProfLA » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:40 pm

First experience with these was at a hotel in Asia and was an epiphany. I now have Brondell (purchased from Costco) and Toto washlets (bidet seats) in my home and really love them. Not to go into too many details but I will go to great lengths to avoid performing that body function anywhere else...

Both provide warm water, one from a reservoir and one heat on demand. (Neither are connected to warm water piping.) I would recommend one with warm water. One has a dryer feature which I don't use. Both have warm seat feature which is kind of nice.
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Post by Slacker » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:02 pm

We have a Toto add-on with heated water, heated seat, and the nozzle is supposed to "self rinse" after every use.

We didn't get the "air-dryer" feature, but don't think that is a big loss.

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Post by obgraham » Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:03 pm

So I have a serious question, never having used these devices. Do you sit there and wait while it dries you off, or do you get up and use a towel? Is this a long procedure?

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Post by montanagirl » Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:14 pm

Helo80 wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:26 pm
No, thank you.
Baby wipes work for me

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Post by VictoriaF » Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:15 pm

TravelGeek wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:50 am
BolderBoy wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:45 am
Cold water? You must be joking. Even the bidet we had in France in 1960 offered hot and cold water faucets.
Wimps :)

No easy way to connect hot water to the toilet in our master bathroom. Would be easier in our guest bathroom.

I’ll pass this on to my wife; after trips to Asia we usually debate whether to get a Toto toilet with a million buttons ;)
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Post by bluebolt » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:32 pm

obgraham wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:03 pm
So I have a serious question, never having used these devices. Do you sit there and wait while it dries you off, or do you get up and use a towel? Is this a long procedure?
Usually a single wipe with toilet paper to dry off does the trick. Or, if I have time, I turn on the dryer and sit there for a few minutes. Dryer doesn't really get you completely dry for as long as I've waited, so it's kind of useless.

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Post by jlcnuke » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:07 am

I've had mine for years and love it. Got mine on Amazon https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01 ... UTF8&psc=1

Adjustable "everything" pretty much (water temp, nozzle position, water pressure, fan, etc).

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Post by ResearchMed » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:05 am

bluebolt wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:32 pm
obgraham wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:03 pm
So I have a serious question, never having used these devices. Do you sit there and wait while it dries you off, or do you get up and use a towel? Is this a long procedure?
Usually a single wipe with toilet paper to dry off does the trick. Or, if I have time, I turn on the dryer and sit there for a few minutes. Dryer doesn't really get you completely dry for as long as I've waited, so it's kind of useless.
Yes, just small amount of TP, given there is less or no "mess" to fuss with.

I'd be reluctant to use a towel, unless one wanted to toss it into the wash after each use.
(How to say this delicately... it's still not going to be quite like drying off, say, your arm...)

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Post by chabil » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:13 pm

I have not read through the entire thread yet but we installed a handheld bidet in our toilet. It is attached to the toilet tank and you have a faucet to rinse. I ordered it from Canada, could not find one here. But now I see Home Depot sells it. Simple to install and works great. The faucet is on the wall behind the toilet, unobtrusive. No hot water though. Sad.
https://www.zoro.com/gobidet-hand-held- ... /G7111291/

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Post by itstoomuch » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:56 pm

Our son gave us a Panasonic Portable travel bidet. Rechargeable lithium battery via USB miniplug :idea:
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Post by Incendiary » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:02 pm

I cheaped out and bought another Luxe Bidet off Amazon, but this time with a hot water function. Some of you are big ballers with your $250-$1000 bidets!

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Post by shmidds » Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:19 pm

I bought an Intelliseat electronic bidet seat from Costco several years ago for less than $150 and love the thing. The seat is controlled by a remote control and I preheat the seat and water for a few minutes before use and turn it off immediately after use. The reason: I recently checked vampire electric loads in the house with a kill-a-watt meter. The seat's water heater uses approx. 650 watts to heat up the water. The seat heater uses approx. 55 watts and cycles off and on every few minutes. I tried using cold water only, uugggghh. I rarely use the dryer.

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Post by Cash » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:53 am

bluebolt wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:30 am
I bought the Toto Washlet S350e which is probably overkill for most people, but I really like it. Took about 20 minutes to install, no plumber necessary, though I had to get a new connector from the shut off valve to the toilet, which was only a few bucks. Most people wouldn't need to do that.

I would never consider a separate bidet, a washlet (integrated seat) is definitely the way to go.

Options range in cost from about $100 to almost $1000. You can get a great seat at the low end of the range. The sweet spot for features probably maxes out at $300-$400 with diminishing returns after that.

There's a reason 75% of Japanese homes have these things. They are amazing, especially if you have a sensitive bum.
We also had the S350e installed in our master during a recent renovation. It's my favorite house gadget. My wife was skeptical, but even she loves the heated seat.

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