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$500 Windows Laptop

Post by pondering » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:10 pm

This laptop:

Acer 15.6" Intel Core i7 2.7 GHz 12 GB RAM 1TB HDD (Manufacturer Refurbished)

was about $500 + tax

I'm looking for a laptop I can use around my house.

Is this a good option? What else would you suggest considering?
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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by David Jay » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:35 pm

That's a lot of money for a re-furb.

You don't need an i7 for around the house. Find an i5 with a SSD. The SSD will make much more difference for common tasks.
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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by F150HD » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:53 pm

David Jay wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:35 pm
That's a lot of money for a re-furb.

You don't need an i7 for around the house. Find an i5 with a SSD. The SSD will make much more difference for common tasks.
prob due to the i7. HDDs are cheap these days. SSD is the way to go IRT boot times, though in time can develop issues of their own. :(

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by F150HD » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:54 pm

pondering wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:10 pm
This laptop:

Acer 15.6" Intel Core i7 2.7 GHz 12 GB RAM 1TB HDD (Manufacturer Refurbished)

was about $500 + tax

I'm looking for a laptop I can use around my house.

Is this a good option? What else would you suggest considering?
wait for Black Friday sales if you can make it that long.

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by pondering » Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:18 pm

Post them here for feedback?
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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by iamlucky13 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:04 pm

F150HD wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:53 pm
David Jay wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:35 pm
That's a lot of money for a re-furb.

You don't need an i7 for around the house. Find an i5 with a SSD. The SSD will make much more difference for common tasks.
prob due to the i7. HDDs are cheap these days. SSD is the way to go IRT boot times, though in time can develop issues of their own. :(
If you're referring to theoretical SSD read/write limits, those have been very solidly demonstrated not to be a significant concern for personal computer use, especially since for several years now, the drives have had automatic wear leveling. Longevity is actually very good for SSD's. They can make a big difference in overall performance, although boot time is the most noticeable factor.

Unfortunately, not many $500 laptops get equipped with SSD's because the builders prefer to advertise 1 or 2 TB HDD's than 120GB SSD's.

For a lot of common tasks, even an i3 series processor is just fine. The biggest benefits to i5 and i7 processors come in multi-tasking and running programs that can take good advantage of the extra cores/threads. My main processor advise for casual home use is don't get an Atom or Celeron powered laptop unless it is only for basic word processing, minimal web browsing, and maybe an occasional video.

The i3, i5, and i7 branding is actually rather confusing if you dig into it, because there are multiple tiers of processors (including low power, medium power, and high power laptop processors), but I won't go into that unless the OP wants to really dig into the technical details. For basic home use, any of the Core i-series processors should be ok.

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by bob60014 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:11 pm

Around the house? I'm using a 2013 Galaxy Tab S tablet. I can do just about anything on it. $100 and like the energizer bunny.......keeps on goin'!

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by runner3081 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:05 pm

This was readily available today at Walmart for $500 (and it was new)

HP Omen 15.6" Laptop

Intel Core Core i7-7700HQ Processor
15.6" 1920x1080 IPS Display
1TB Hard Drive
12GB DDR4 Memory
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB Graphics
1x HDMI
2x USB 3.1 Gen 1
1x USB 2.0

https://slickdeals.net/f/10725387-selec ... y-may-vary

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by JeffAL » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:09 pm

We have two of these for couch surfing: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-E5-575-33BM ... dpSrc=srch

I replaced the hard drives with SSDs I already had.

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by mega317 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:44 am

What do you have now? If you have an SSD you will be very disappointed going back to HDD.

I buy used laptops on ebay. There are lots of good sellers (tons of reviews and good return policy). My most recent was about 2 years ago, a Lenovo with SSD, 8gb RAM, i5. 300 bucks and still going great. I think this is a great way to go if you don't need a ton of power for games, video editing, etc.

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by Momus » Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:24 am

runner3081 wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:05 pm
This was readily available today at Walmart for $500 (and it was new)

HP Omen 15.6" Laptop

Intel Core Core i7-7700HQ Processor
15.6" 1920x1080 IPS Display
1TB Hard Drive
12GB DDR4 Memory
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB Graphics
1x HDMI
2x USB 3.1 Gen 1
1x USB 2.0

https://slickdeals.net/f/10725387-selec ... y-may-vary
It's pretty much out of stock every where.

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by inbox788 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:03 am

pondering wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:10 pm
I'm looking for a laptop I can use around my house.

Is this a good option? What else would you suggest considering?
What are you going to be doing around the house? I mostly use an iPad or Chromebook. Sometimes, I wish it could be a little faster, but nearly instant on, lightweight and long battery life make me avoid using a PC unless absolutely necessary, which is less and less these days. I'm overdue for an upgrade, but don't do anything anymore that needs much processing power or local storage.

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by AllMostThere » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:48 am

I would agree with others that $500 for a refurbished unit is excessive. If you can wait until Black Friday, there will be multiple retailers with some doorbuster laptops. If I recall, last year there where several offering Chromebooks for <$100. If you desire a little more power punch then you may want to check out Dell Outlet. Six months ago I purchased an 11 inch Inspiron 11 - 3000 Series Laptop for $249 + tax. Pretty decent little laptop as it's considered a 2-in-1 device, so you can rotate the screen around on itself and use like a touch screen tablet (I have yet to use this option, so doubt the benefit of this capability on a Windows machine). Also, with 4GB memory, 250 GM HD and Intel Core 6th Generation m3-6Y30 Processor it's pretty snappy. No CD drive, but really who uses those anymore? I have used Dell Outlet for past several computer purchases with no regrets. I always use the scratch & dent option, which is still considered a refurb, but savings is even greater. Can never seem to find any real scratches. Also, same warranty as new. Doubled warranty if you have a credit card that doubles warranty. Combined with a google search coupon code, you should be able to get a nice deal.

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by Traveller » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:35 am

Costco's Black Friday ads were recently leaked and ths first few pages may be of interest.

https://bestblackfriday.com/ads/costco-black-friday

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by jerryk68 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:26 am

I am retired and rarely need a computer except to write a letter or make a comment on this site. About a year ago I purchased a Acer Travelmate B computer for about $230 from Newegg with a 11.6 screen, 128GB hard drive with 4GB of RAM. For my needs, Acer is a good portable machine that supports my desktop. It weighs about 3lbs and is stationed next to my chair, for my handy use. I thought the 128GB hard drive would be an issue but it's not.

It was my future son-in-law that talked me out of a high end computer after asking me what I was using it for and after thinking about my computer use is now reading blogs, news and to take it with me on vacation. I really didn't need anything with any real features. The weight, the heat generated from the machine and the size of the screen became a priority in the purchase. In retirement my needs have changed and, likewise, so have my needs for a computer.

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by forgeblast » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:32 am

But its windows, I have been hating windows lately. I have a chromebook at work and love it. Fast and things work. My next one will be a chromebook.

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by pondering » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:58 am

I guess I should add I am a heavy excel user and I take a lot of photos, typically more than 10,000 a year.

I have an older desktop with 2 screens that isn’t going away.
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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by iamlucky13 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:01 pm

pondering wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:58 am
I guess I should add I am a heavy excel user and I take a lot of photos, typically more than 10,000 a year.

I have an older desktop with 2 screens that isn’t going away.
Excel isn't generally too resource intensive, so I stick my comment about i3 and i5 processors being a fine option. The SSD consideration for people who have a lot of media is a tradeoff between speed and storage space, although if your desktop is where you store your photos, that's a non-issue.

The specs on that computer another posted linked to from Walmart are a really good value, although I can't speak to the build quality. Since you have a desktop, do you want a large laptop like those being discussed, or is portability a priority? A 15.6" screen is pretty large in my opinion, but there are lots of thin and light models with 12" and 13" screens, although with a few compromises (price premium for comparable specs, and smaller keyboards).

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by oldcomputerguy » Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:04 pm

David Jay wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:35 pm
That's a lot of money for a re-furb.

You don't need an i7 for around the house. Find an i5 with a SSD. The SSD will make much more difference for common tasks.
Absolutely true, especially if one ever shuts down one's computer. The process of booting up Windows these days is so disk-intensive that it can take upwards of two to three minutes for the system to become acceptably responsive when booting from a hard disk. Go with the SSD.
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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by pondering » Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:41 pm

The more pixels on the screen the better.

My work laptop would be ideal screen wise, it is an HP ZBook 17
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Post by imareal1 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:02 pm

As others have said, I would highly recommend getting a computer with a SSD drive. I have made the switch around a year ago and I just have to say... there aren't many features you can get from a laptop that beats the experience of having your laptop ready for your log in password in less than 5 seconds of pushing the power button.

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by runner3081 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:22 pm

F150HD wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:54 pm
pondering wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:10 pm
This laptop:

Acer 15.6" Intel Core i7 2.7 GHz 12 GB RAM 1TB HDD (Manufacturer Refurbished)

was about $500 + tax

I'm looking for a laptop I can use around my house.

Is this a good option? What else would you suggest considering?
wait for Black Friday sales if you can make it that long.
There will be more deals, come up all of the time.

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by pondering » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:38 pm

Best deal I found so far:

HP 840 g2 elitebook laptop Grade "B" i7 5600u 2.6ghz 16gb ram 256gb ssd no optical drive windows 10 pro 64bit display 1920x1080 intel hd 5500 graphics good battery adapter 14"lcd

$475
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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by azurekep » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:59 pm

pondering wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:58 am
I guess I should add I am a heavy excel user and I take a lot of photos, typically more than 10,000 a year.
If you're just browsing photos on your drive, you may get by with moderate RAM and processor speeds, i.e.. nothing special.

If you're using fancy image manipulation software, you may need something more. Most applicaitons list their system requirements. If you can find those, it could provide a guide on RAM, processor speed and maybe screen resolution.

I remember having to make the switch (kicking and screaming) from Win98 to WinXP just to use a special software. Sometimes external things like that are the drivers for new purchases.

As for SSD vs HD, I'm not familiar with SSDs, but have not had problems with standard HDs when working with large numbers of images. (Disclaimer: I'm speaking pre-Win10, since I use Win10 only sparingly)

I think the application with the strictest requirements will be whatever you use to process all the Caller-ID'ed phone numbers you acquire. :twisted:

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by pondering » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:04 pm

The main driver of this search are the 2 faults of the chromebook I'm typing on.
1) The low resolution screen and
2) the difficulty using the windows file system.
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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by inbox788 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:22 pm

pondering wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:58 am
I guess I should add I am a heavy excel user and I take a lot of photos, typically more than 10,000 a year.

I have an older desktop with 2 screens that isn’t going away.
pondering wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:04 pm
The main driver of this search are the 2 faults of the chromebook I'm typing on.
1) The low resolution screen and
2) the difficulty using the windows file system.
The low resolution screen can be solved. There are several Chromebooks with HD, 1080, or higher resolution.
http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-co ... us-1233696

The file system is limited, and if you're dealing with photos and excel, then you're pretty much stuck with Windows. Some folks have used Linux successfully, while others get only get by.

Google photos has helps as much as harmed my photo storage problems. It's a decent backup of my photos, but limited to their HD resolution (not higher camera and newer phones MP) and made it easy for me to take even more photos and mismanage them.

I use OpenOffice/LibreOffice on Windows and Linux, but not heavily, and for light duty, can get buy with Google Sheets. If I needed 2 screens for my Excel spreadsheets, I'd go back to Windows 7.

I'm liking the used/refurbished eBay suggestion, and if I needed a new laptop now, that's something I'd look into.

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by fishboat » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:23 am

In the interest of efficiency..I'll reference my response here:
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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by likegarden » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:09 am

I recently bought a $250 Dell laptop with Windows which I use for finance exclusively once every 2 weeks and am satisfied. The other computer is a fast DELL PC which we use for surfing the internet, Office, video games and Email.

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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by pondering » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:28 am

So it sounds like I should be looking for a full hd ssd drive laptop

Anyone seen any $500 ones lately?
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Re: $500 Windows Laptop

Post by pochax » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:34 am

although it is currently out of stock at Amazon, this model is very good if you are willing to spend $100 more:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075FLBJV7/re ... 8XNPG&th=1

there is a good chance it may get a discount closer to Holiday season as well. we got the 1-year older version for $499 on sale last year for our son. it has a 256GB SSD and the newest 8th-gen Intel core processors are a SIGNIFICANT improvement to previous generations. plus they put the newer gen graphics chip (MX150)....not that you were planning on any light gaming or anything.

EDIT: the current 7th-gen version is IN STOCK for a $20 discount ($579)...still a good buy (although personally if i could wait, i would spend the extra $20 to get the new Intel chip and graphics chip)

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