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A good value wine I found...

Post by MikeZ » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:59 pm

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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by badbreath » Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:16 pm

Is this a long term investment so that it can compound and taste better. Otherwise it's just market timing.
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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by TerryDMillerMBA » Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:42 pm

[ ] Buy and hold
[x] Buy and drink

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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by BTDT » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:15 pm

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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by iamlucky13 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:33 pm

I note that this is a domestic asset class only, as one would expect given past guidance on the topic of domestic versus foreign.

I did find it interesting, however, that this is not a blended portfolio. Don't you think more diversification is better versus a single pick like CAB SAV?
TerryDMillerMBA wrote:
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[ ] Buy and hold
[x] Buy and drink
Reds you should buy and hold briefly to improve flavor yield of the subtler notes.

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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by azurekep » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:55 pm

Better drink up before a hacker drains it!

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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by obgraham » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:04 pm

Something like the advice I got years ago: sell your stocks and buy canned beer.

If the price of aluminum rises, you make money. If it goes down, drink the beer.

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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by tenkuky » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:55 am

The Bogle Petite Sirah is very good.
As is the Bogle Essential Red (red blend) and Phantom (PS blend with others)
I am a Boglehead :P and diversify!

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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by btenny » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:38 am

I suggest you stock up right now. Then sell to your neighbors or save for your use. Next year the price will go up a lot. The fires will let drive prices way up...

Good luck.

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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by 8foot7 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:48 am

I bought a case of the Essential Red blend for something like $9/btl. Recommended.

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Post by mhalley » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:50 am

I’m not a wine drinker, but came accross an article recently that said putting cheap wine in the blender for 30 seconds resulted in a great improvement in the taste. Some compare it to 5 years of aging, so a short term investment gives a medium term return.
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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by Rob5TCP » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:50 am

BTDT wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:15 pm
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+1 same here

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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by DaftInvestor » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:58 am

I've been able to stomach a lot of $10 bottles of wine (this is the price point I try to get down to) - but this is one that I haven't been able to.
I realize a lot depends upon ones taste so I'm sure if I listed my value favorites I would get a similar response :)

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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by oldcomputerguy » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:16 am

Laugh if you want, but I have generally found Bogle to produce excellent wines. It’s one of my favorites.
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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by iamlucky13 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:33 pm

tenkuky wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:55 am
The Bogle Petite Sirah is very good.
As is the Bogle Essential Red (red blend) and Phantom (PS blend with others)
I am a Boglehead :P and diversify!
Petite sounds like it must be a small cap? And I presume Essential is a balanced product similar to Wellington? But what then is Phantom?
mhalley wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:50 am
I’m not a wine drinker, but came accross an article recently that said putting cheap wine in the blender for 30 seconds resulted in a great improvement in the taste. Some compare it to 5 years of aging, so a short term investment gives a medium term return.
I don't know if it's quite the same as aging, but most cheaper wines benefit from "breathing" for a few minutes up to a few hours after opening. I guess it's harsher flavor compounds evaporating or breaking down with oxygen exposure or something like that, but it really does help, and the blender speeds this up. The more sophisticated way to do this is to decant it into a wide-bottomed bottle that exposes more surface area.

In contrast, we took a rather nice bottle of wine to visit some of my wife's relatives. They had just learned the blender trick and apparently had been having fun shocking their guests by pouring very small glasses for a first taste, and then unceremoniously dumping the rest in the blender, before explaining what they were doing and offering the post-blender result for comparison.

They were a bit surprised when we weren't surprised they wanted to blend our wine, and surprised again when the wine we had brought was effectively indistinguishable pre- and post-blending.

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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by mxs » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:50 pm

iamlucky13 wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:33 pm
tenkuky wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:55 am
The Bogle Petite Sirah is very good.
As is the Bogle Essential Red (red blend) and Phantom (PS blend with others)
I am a Boglehead :P and diversify!
Petite sounds like it must be a small cap? And I presume Essential is a balanced product similar to Wellington? But what then is Phantom?

Phantom = closet index?

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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by LadyGeek » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:51 pm

BTDT wrote:
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The OP's image was a 2015 Bogle Vineyard Cabernet Sauvignon. I could only find a 2014 vintage, but it's from CellarTracker: 2014 Bogle Vineyards Cabernet Sauvignon

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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by runner3081 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:17 pm

btenny wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:38 am
I suggest you stock up right now. Then sell to your neighbors or save for your use. Next year the price will go up a lot. The fires will let drive prices way up...

Good luck.
I have been contemplating this! I am not sure the prices will go up in 1-2 years, but the 3-8 year period could be brutal.

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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by IowaFarmBoy » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:18 am

Looks like they make six different wines.

Actionable item: Which three would you recommend for a Boglehead three wine portfolio?

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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by cinghiale » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:29 am

Phantom is the four fund portfolio.

From the Bogle Winery website:
Selected from our finest vineyards of Petite Sirah, Old Vine Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot.
http://www.boglewinery.com/october-2017-news/

It is released this time of year and the bottles go fast. Usually, by Thanksgiving, they’re gone.

I’ve enjoyed it for years. viewtopic.php?t=103376
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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by TheHouse7 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:43 am

All seriousness a side: BV Vinyard is my bar set for cab. I found it at costco for 4.78 a bottle (have to buy the case). Usually $8-10 at the stores.
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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by Kenkat » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:12 am

The Bogle Old Vines Zinfandel is also very good.

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Re: A good value wine I found...

Post by CyclingDuo » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:23 am

All this chit chat, and no drinking?

Come on folks, Friday the 13th deserves a little nectar with your meal tonight...

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Bogle wines were on sale this week at the grocery store, so we already enjoyed one of the 2 bottles we picked up the other night with our dinner (and bill paying session). :mrgreen:

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