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Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by sil2017 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:36 pm

Bought a new iMac . Talked to Apple support and told I don't need antivirus . However when I checked cnet.com
For free download software there are antivirus for iMac. Do I need it ? If so , which is best? Also I think I need adobe flash player. What are the 'must' free download from cnet.com, the only site I trust for downloads.

TIA

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by bluebolt » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:52 pm

TextWrangler for text editing
KeePassX for password management

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by billthecat » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:00 pm

sil2017 wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:36 pm
Bought a new iMac . Talked to Apple support and told I don't need antivirus . However when I checked cnet.com
For free download software there are antivirus for iMac. Do I need it ? If so , which is best? Also I think I need adobe flash player. What are the 'must' free download from cnet.com, the only site I trust for downloads.

TIA
The app store is the only site I trust outright. Get iWork (Pages, Keynote, Numbers), which is free. And just peruse the store, filtered for what's free. Software is cheap nowadays though so yo can get great software from the app store for cheap.

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by kjvmartin » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:04 pm

It's wholly unnecessary.

Safari has a lot of built in security features. Every app you'll use will be legit. Stay away from pirated software and you'll be fine.

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by ThriftyPhD » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:10 pm

billthecat wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:00 pm
sil2017 wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:36 pm
Bought a new iMac . Talked to Apple support and told I don't need antivirus . However when I checked cnet.com
For free download software there are antivirus for iMac. Do I need it ? If so , which is best? Also I think I need adobe flash player. What are the 'must' free download from cnet.com, the only site I trust for downloads.

TIA
The app store is the only site I trust outright. Get iWork (Pages, Keynote, Numbers), which is free. And just peruse the store, filtered for what's free. Software is cheap nowadays though so yo can get great software from the app store for cheap.
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The app store has a lot more at stake to make sure there aren't malicious programs than cnet does.

Most of my friends/family use macs, as do I. I don't know anyone who uses antivirus. For other software, install what you need. Don't feel the need to install a bunch of programs, add them as you need them.

Some things you could consider:

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by AntsOnTheMarch » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:15 pm

You'll get mixed opinions on the antivirus on Mac. I vote no. I've been a Mac user since 1988 and have never installed antivirus software on any of my macs since OS X came into being. I'm not sure antivirus will help your Mac and could hurt (slow down computer, hard to remove, etc). For the most part, antivirus uses a database of known attacks, it does you no good if the attack is not yet known. Once it's known, apple will patch it so a system update is your best defense.

Your best line of defense on a Mac is the administrator account. It forces you to approve anything that would access system functions and install malware. Say you downloaded a piece of malware. At the time it tries to install, you'll get a dialog asking for an administrator's password. If you don't enter it, the software will not install. For this reason, I suggest that you use a non-administrative account user login for your day-to-day. This will force you to enter an administrator name and password whenever you have to install software or do anything at a system level. That's your cue to be extra sure you want to proceed and open that pirated movie you downloaded from a Russian website. Tip: you don't. Otherwise, just use good hygiene, keep your system up to date, don't download from unverified websites and don't click on links in suspicious emails.

As for free software, too much to list. See what you need to do and search for best of class to get it done.

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by Ice-9 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:20 pm

I use Sophos, but only because my work requires it to VPN for telework.

Agree about the App Store being the safest bet. However, I do use a short list of things outside of the AppStore. Your software needs may vary.

* VeraCrypt
* VirtualBox
* Libreoffice
* A few open source things that are available via MacPorts or Homebrew and quickly updated with a terminal command if you're into that
- Gimp
- Inkscape
- QGIS

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by gasdoc » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:27 pm

I have used MAC for many years, and have never used anti-viral software. I also only download software from the app store. They have lots to choose from.

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by sil2017 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:40 pm

thank you. when I downloaded google chrome, I received a message saying that I was at a porno website (or something like that) and to call a phone number which I did. I think they were selling something so I hung up.
thus the concern about anti virus. I removed the google chrome "alias" under download. do I need to remove it elsewhere on my computer?


so no anti virus software for me

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by Pajamas » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:43 pm

Only download Chrome from Google, not from elsewhere, as well as Chrome add-ons.

https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/d ... index.html

Same is true for other apps, either get them through the Apple app store or from the developer's website, not from third parties. As a rule I don't download and install software unless I went looking for it because I have a need for it. Anytime you run across anything that offers to let you or asks you to download software, don't do it. Avoid danger and prevents computer clutter, too.

An "alias" on a Mac is just a shortcut to something, you can delete it but it shouldn't have the potential to be harmful. Be careful when you want to delete something that you are not just deleting the alias instead of the actual whatever it is and also be careful when you want to delete an alias that you are not deleting the actual whatever by mistake. The alias should have a little arrow at the bottom left of the icon but it is easy to miss.

Chrome browser
AdBlock Plus and KeepPass add-ons for Chrome and Safari
Transmission BitTorrent client
VLC video player
Wake Up Time
Kindle
calibre
Caffeine
Monolingual
xACT
f.lux

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by AntsOnTheMarch » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:08 pm

sil2017 wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:40 pm
thank you. when I downloaded google chrome, I received a message saying that I was at a porno website (or something like that) and to call a phone number which I did. I think they were selling something so I hung up.
thus the concern about anti virus. I removed the google chrome "alias" under download. do I need to remove it elsewhere on my computer?


so no anti virus software for me
Rule #1: if anything pops up on a website and tells you to call a number, download software or click a link, don't.

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by sil2017 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:35 pm

Thanks for reminding me .
this particular pop up wouldn't let me close. would it be best to have click on "force quit"

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by Pajamas » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:49 pm

sil2017 wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:35 pm
Thanks for reminding me .
this particular pop up wouldn't let me close. would it be best to have click on "force quit"
Yes, absolutely. You can almost always force quit in those situations. I would go so far as to say it is better to hit the power button and shut down the computer than to click on a malicious pop-up.

Chrome and Safari both now have settings that will prevent pop-ups. Enable those settings. 99.99% of legitimate websites don't use pop-ups these days.

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Post by Dottie57 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:58 pm

Pajamas wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:49 pm
sil2017 wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:35 pm
Thanks for reminding me .
this particular pop up wouldn't let me close. would it be best to have click on "force quit"
Yes, absolutely. You can almost always force quit in those situations. I would go so far as to say it is better to hit the power button and shut down the computer than to click on a malicious pop-up.

Chrome and Safari both now have settings that will prevent pop-ups. Enable those settings. 99.99% of legitimate websites don't use pop-ups these days.
Yes termnate and it would not hurt to clear cache and cookies - web browser data. I do this on ios too.

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by billthecat » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:32 pm

I wouldn't bother with anti-virus on a Mac. At best, you'd find Word macro viruses received from WIndows users that wouldn't work on a Mac anyway.

The Mac has a certain basic level of protection built-in. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202491

I also wouldn't bother with Flash. First of all, it's a major security hole. https://www.wired.com/2015/07/adobe-flash-player-die/

All modern browsers disable Flash by default. I haven't come across a site that I needed to get to that required Flash. That said, if you want to be sure you don't get left out of something, just install Chrome as a second browser. It has its own Flash built into the browser, so if you come across a site that requires Flash and you've just got to get to the site, open it in Chrome. Even Google is removing that feature though - https://arstechnica.com/information-tec ... d-of-2020/.

Someone mentioned f.lux above, but that functionality is now built into the Sierra version of Mac OS (10.12).

Secure your Mac with an account password. That way, if it's lost or stolen people can't get to your confidential files. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202860. See also https://lifehacker.com/four-methods-to- ... 1601854240.

Turn on encryption. That way, people can't boot from an external drive to get around your account password and get access to your confidential files. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204837.

Set a firmware password. That way, people can't boot from an external drive to erase your internal storage and start over with a "new" Mac. What that means is that your stolen computer becomes dead weight. It is, without extreme difficulty, an unusable brick. :) https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204455. You only have to enter the password if you try to boot off a different disk (so, probably never). Don't forget it!

Don't be cavalier about entering your account password when prompted - you are the weak point in security because you can get tricked into installing something malicious.

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by Pajamas » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:02 pm

billthecat wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:32 pm
Someone mentioned f.lux above, but that functionality is now built into the Sierra version of Mac OS (10.12).
Night Shift is fairly limited. f.lux has a lot more options, such as being able to set a different schedule on the weekend.

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by GW208 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:33 pm

I don't believe it's free, but does anyone have any thoughts about malwarebytes premium for mac?

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Post by URSnshn » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:12 am

I keep my iOS updated, and use the following three products and advice I find here: http://securitytango.com/m/macintosh.php

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Post by AAA » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:41 am

I've used Macs for years and have generally believed what we were told about the need or lack thereof for anti-virus software, but also have read where things may be changing. So to play it safe I've had the free version of Sophos Anti-Virus on my MacBook Pro for the past few years. It is very unobtrusive and does not seem to slow things down in any way. I also recently installed the free version of Malwarebytes. Unlike Sophos, it doesn't update its database automatically, so I occasionally do this and run a scan, which is fairly quick. Some may say that these are unnecessary and I think there may have been only one time that something questionable was found, although it may not have been very important. On the other hand, these programs don't seem to have any downside.

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by 5th_Dimension » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:42 am

GW208 wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:33 pm
I don't believe it's free, but does anyone have any thoughts about malwarebytes premium for mac?
I use Malwarebytes for Mac on my machines and client machines. They have gone to a 30 day free trial of the premium version which is supposed to revert to the free version when the 30 days is up. It has found malware on several client machines over the years. I recommend it for both Mac and Windows computers.
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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by GW208 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:58 pm

5th_Dimension wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:42 am
GW208 wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:33 pm
I don't believe it's free, but does anyone have any thoughts about malwarebytes premium for mac?
I use Malwarebytes for Mac on my machines and client machines. They have gone to a 30 day free trial of the premium version which is supposed to revert to the free version when the 30 days is up. It has found malware on several client machines over the years. I recommend it for both Mac and Windows computers.
Thanks 5th_Dimension, are you using the free or premium versions on your machines? My 30 day free trial of premium will expire this weekend and I'm trying to decide if I should pay to keep the premium version or is the free version good enough.

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by BHUser27 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:05 pm

I don't use "installed" AntiVirus SW on my MacBook. Every now and then I will download a free copy of MalwareBytes and run a scan just for the heck of it - never finds anything.

My favorite free SW for MAC (& PC & iOS) is Wunderlist.

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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by 5th_Dimension » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:08 pm

GW208 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:58 pm
5th_Dimension wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:42 am
GW208 wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:33 pm
I don't believe it's free, but does anyone have any thoughts about malwarebytes premium for mac?
I use Malwarebytes for Mac on my machines and client machines. They have gone to a 30 day free trial of the premium version which is supposed to revert to the free version when the 30 days is up. It has found malware on several client machines over the years. I recommend it for both Mac and Windows computers.
Thanks 5th_Dimension, are you using the free or premium versions on your machines? My 30 day free trial of premium will expire this weekend and I'm trying to decide if I should pay to keep the premium version or is the free version good enough.
When I updated it last it put me on the premium version, I didn't see a way around it. I will switch to the free when the trial is up, I don't see a need for the premium, especially on the Mac side, unless you are constantly getting malware.
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Re: Which free software for new (late 2015) iMac

Post by GW208 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:53 pm

5th_Dimension wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:08 pm
GW208 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:58 pm
5th_Dimension wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:42 am
GW208 wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:33 pm
I don't believe it's free, but does anyone have any thoughts about malwarebytes premium for mac?
I use Malwarebytes for Mac on my machines and client machines. They have gone to a 30 day free trial of the premium version which is supposed to revert to the free version when the 30 days is up. It has found malware on several client machines over the years. I recommend it for both Mac and Windows computers.
Thanks 5th_Dimension, are you using the free or premium versions on your machines? My 30 day free trial of premium will expire this weekend and I'm trying to decide if I should pay to keep the premium version or is the free version good enough.
When I updated it last it put me on the premium version, I didn't see a way around it. I will switch to the free when the trial is up, I don't see a need for the premium, especially on the Mac side, unless you are constantly getting malware.
Okay, thanks for that.

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