Upgrade car suspension or wait few more years

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Upgrade car suspension or wait few more years

Post by youngin87 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:16 am

I have a 2009 Camry SE with 150,000 miles. My goal is to get it to 200,000 miles for bragging rights then retire it for a CPO car. I average 15,000 miles per year so to get it to 200,000 means I'll keep it at least 3 more years. However, I noticed the handling and road noise quality going down over the past several months.

If I change all four shocks and struts along with bushings, it will cost ~$1000. I could wait a few more years and save $1000, but I'd really like to improve the quality of my ride.

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Post by sport » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:33 am

I would suggest that "bragging rights" is not an important consideration. If you can afford it, I would suggest replacing the car. The reason for my suggestion is that if you put $1000 into it, you may still have additional major repairs in the coming 3 years. Personally, I would save the $1000 and add it to whatever you can get for the car and put it towards more reliable transportation.

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Post by Nate79 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:52 am

Is $1000 from an independent shop? Sounds kind of steep.

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Re: Upgrade car suspension or wait few more years

Post by bampf » Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:06 am

We just had this discussion a couple weeks ago. Suspension is not for comfort, it is for control. Your ride is dangerous if your shocks/struts are dead. You should probably fix that.

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Post by bampf » Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:11 am

acanthurus wrote:If it passes a bounce test and you can't see any oil leaking from the shocks on visual inspection, it's probably still safe. If it fails a bounce test and/or you see oil leaking, you should replace them.
No, not really. The shocks are dead at 150K. Full stop. Dead. There is an argument about bounce tests being effective. There are small valves inside the strut that helps control small bounces. You don't have the tools to measure that, and honestly, check my first statement. At 150K, the struts are dead.

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Post by SimonJester » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:11 am

You can purchase the quick strut assemblies and change them out yourself. I did this on a 2002 corolla and it wasn't all that hard.
Ive seen all four quick strut assemblies for as low as ~$300
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Post by LadyGeek » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:16 am

This thread is now in the Personal Consumer Issues forum (car).
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Post by nedsaid » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:40 am

youngin87 wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:16 am
I have a 2009 Camry SE with 150,000 miles. My goal is to get it to 200,000 miles for bragging rights then retire it for a CPO car. I average 15,000 miles per year so to get it to 200,000 means I'll keep it at least 3 more years. However, I noticed the handling and road noise quality going down over the past several months.

If I change all four shocks and struts along with bushings, it will cost ~$1000. I could wait a few more years and save $1000, but I'd really like to improve the quality of my ride.
If you plan to keep the car, do the maintenance now. This is a safety issue, you need good road handling. In a tight situation the extra handling is the difference between being in an accident or avoiding one, or perhaps between life and death. For crying out load, spend the money now IF you want to keep the car. A worn suspension system is also hard on your tires. I suspect letting this go will contribute to other problems as well.
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Post by sunny_socal » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:14 am

Nate79 wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:52 am
Is $1000 from an independent shop? Sounds kind of steep.
Maybe it's not. The guy in the other Camry thread got a quote for $1500 for the exact same procedure. Now I know his deal is bad.

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Post by Afty » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:29 am

3 years is a long time to drive around with bad shocks. I would bite the bullet and replace them.

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Post by nedsaid » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:39 am

sunny_socal wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:14 am
Nate79 wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:52 am
Is $1000 from an independent shop? Sounds kind of steep.
Maybe it's not. The guy in the other Camry thread got a quote for $1500 for the exact same procedure. Now I know his deal is bad.
I drive a 1999 Camry with 180,000 miles or so on it. The previous owner, a family member, had all that replaced and it cost him over $1,000. He went to a independent mechanic shop that is a family owned shop that charges reasonable prices. $1,000 quoted from an independent shop sounds about right.
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Post by JPH » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:22 pm

Get it fixed if you plan to keep it. Safety first. And you might need to replace tires too if you drive on worn-out suspension.
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Post by iamlucky13 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:35 pm

If suspension is noticeably affecting the handling, it's time to take care of it now. As mentioned by others, this is a safety issue first, and a comfort issue second.

You might be able to do better than $1000 with quality shocks, but it doesn't sound outrageous.

There will probably be a few more issues come up in the next 50,000 miles like perhaps brake replacement, but if your Toyota has been receiving all the scheduled maintenance and you don't drive aggressively, I'd say the odds are very good there will be nothing major.

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Post by dratkinson » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:37 pm

Just went through this with my old vehicle ('90 Montero, >200K-miles). Took it in for another issue and courtesy inspection found worn bushings in steering components. When demoed on lift, small wear in bushings (Pitman and idler arms) translated into significant steering deflections.

Long story short. Vehicle came back well-behaved on the road. Had not realized how much mental effort I'd been expending in just keeping it straight---little potholes/bumps would cause it to wander left/right.

Potholes and bumps are still on the road, but vehicle now comes out of them straight. My repair was ~$1K at dealer (included front end alignment afterwards). Appreciated the use of dealer's loaner vehicle for the week it took to order-in parts for an old vehicle. I'm a happy camper.

Bottom line. If your vehicle's handling has noticeably deteriorated, then get it fixed. If it's enough for you to feel, then it's worse than you know.

And if your vehicle is still going at 200K and everything still works well and you're still happy with it, then plan to keep it to 250K. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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Post by bottlecap » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:35 pm

Just get them done. Problem solved!

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Post by Dogbreath650 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:23 pm

150K isn't old for a toyota, it likely has a lot of life left if you keep up with the maintenance. $1000 isn't bad from a shop assuming they use quality components. If you're handy you could easily replace them yourself; check out a Camry forum and you will find "how to" writeups to lead you step-by-step through the process.

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Post by lthenderson » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:43 pm

sunny_socal wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:14 am
Nate79 wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:52 am
Is $1000 from an independent shop? Sounds kind of steep.
Maybe it's not. The guy in the other Camry thread got a quote for $1500 for the exact same procedure. Now I know his deal is bad.
I just cancelled my appointment to get new ones put in my '07 vehicle for $1000 at an independent shop. The only reason I cancelled the appointment was an insurance adjuster totaled out the vehicle due to a hail storm.

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