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Post by workingovertime » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:54 pm

Winn-Dixie and Walgreens recently had a dozen eggs for sale for $0.79. I went to Save-A-Lot today and they had it for $0.49.

I'm just wondering how chicken farms could even produce eggs that cheap... and how bad are these eggs for you? Chickens must be grown in terrible conditions to make any kind of profits with these prices.

I'm very into fitness and I consume lots of eggs (probably averages about 5 per day, whites only). I don't think I can afford the better ones that are like $3+/dozen though.

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Post by renue74 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:00 pm

The price difference may only be the issue from store to store. You should look at the label....Grade A, AA, B are all regular supermarket eggs. If you are comparing these eggs between supermarkets, there are no differences in the treatment of the actual hen laying the eggs.

If you go up a type and hit cage free or free range...that's where they start getting expensive.

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Post by 123 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:07 pm

I just buy regular eggs for 99 cents or $1.49 a dozen at Walgreens or Smart & Final. I suppose they are loss leaders to get people in the store, it works on me. I shudder when I look at the price of eggs in local Whole Foods store, often $4+ to $9+ a dozen, at those prices they must have had to bargain with each chicken for the loss of their potential offspring. Of course the eggs from Whole Foods do come in a very nice, and often somewhat elegant, carton.

I was raised in an area that had egg ranches all over. I can't comprehend much of a difference in the healthyness/quality of the eggs. Some neighbors raised chickens on the ground, based on what those chicken ate I wouldn't be enthused about "free range" eggs.

Edited to add:
Chickens have very few taste buds so they often don't discriminate about what they try to eat.
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Post by Church Lady » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:08 pm

Interesting. I saw eggs 74 cents/doz in the store today, but didn't get them because had I bought two dozen at 79 cents/doz earlier this week at another store.

I put it down to chickens laying a lot of eggs on the longest days of the year.
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Post by DragonWell » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:10 pm

Do you really want to know? Ignorance is bliss.

Eating Animals by Jonathan Foer will give you an idea of what's going on -- it's extremely depressing.

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Post by BW1985 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:11 pm

Factory farmed eggs, probably from battery caged hens that can't move. I'd say really bad.

Quality > Quantity. I'd rather have 1 dozen eggs from pasture raised hens than 10 dozen factory farmed.
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Post by workingovertime » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:18 pm

BW1985 wrote:Factory farmed eggs, probably from battery caged hens that can't move. I'd say really bad.

Quality > Quantity. I'd rather have 1 dozen eggs from pasture raised hens than 10 dozen factory farmed.
I'd strongly considered only eating meat (and all products from it like eggs) from only brands that raise them to certain standards.... I know it's just an excuse to myself but I just can't afford it - ESPECIALLY the amount that I eat. I eat incredibly a lot (6-8 meals per day) and my grocery bills are already crazy due to my fitness goals.

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Post by mrc » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:19 pm

Stores sell eggs, bananas, etc, real cheap as loss leaders.

It's possible they aren't the freshest I suppose, drop one in water. If it lies on its side at the bottom of the glass it's very fresh. If it floats it's older (not necessarily unsafe by any means).

The farm eggs we buy sink like rocks.
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Post by stoptothink » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:22 pm

workingovertime wrote: I'm very into fitness and I consume lots of eggs (probably averages about 5 per day, whites only).
I wouldn't be too concerned about the cheaper eggs being in any way inferior, take advantage of the price wars going on in food right now. The bigger concern, to me, is why are you purposely tossing the most densely nutritious part of the egg?

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Post by jharkin » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:26 pm

There is a difference, but you won't see it between grocery chains. We live in a town with lots of family farms, once in a while for a treat my wife will get eggs from the local farmer... around $2-$4 a dozen.

The yolks are not yellow, they are dark orange. And the flavor is so different grocery store eggs are like eating cardboard once you have tried a farm fresh egg.

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Post by sawhorse » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:27 pm

Massachusetts recently passed a bill requiring egg laying chickens to be housed in a space that averages at least a letter sized piece of paper per chicken. It was vehemently opposed by the industry. That should give you an idea about the conditions under which the chickens live.

Because cramming chickens so closely together increases the likelihood of disease, antibiotic use is ubiquitous.

I gladly pay more for free range eggs.

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Post by BW1985 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:32 pm

jharkin wrote:There is a difference, but you won't see it between grocery chains. We live in a town with lots of family farms, once in a while for a treat my wife will get eggs from the local farmer... around $2-$4 a dozen.

The yolks are not yellow, they are dark orange. And the flavor is so different grocery store eggs are like eating cardboard once you have tried a farm fresh egg.
+1. However I have also found Vital Farms eggs, which are pasture raised and certified humanely raised, also have orange yolks. You can find these at certain stores like Target, Whole Foods, Fresh Thyme, etc.

Anyone who says there's no difference between any eggs has not had good eggs.
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Post by Abe » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:35 pm

I bought grade A large eggs recently for .45c a dozen at Aldi.
Egg prices spiked with the avian flu outbreak. As a result, egg prices temporarily neared $3.00 a dozen. Now the supply of eggs is back to normal, but exports of American eggs to other countries still haven't returned to their pre-bird flu levels. That's why prices have come down so much.
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Post by stoptothink » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:38 pm

jharkin wrote:There is a difference, but you won't see it between grocery chains. We live in a town with lots of family farms, once in a while for a treat my wife will get eggs from the local farmer... around $2-$4 a dozen.

The yolks are not yellow, they are dark orange. And the flavor is so different grocery store eggs are like eating cardboard once you have tried a farm fresh egg.
This is the answer. There is likely a difference if you are buying them directly from the source. Variance in prices between competing grocery stores? The eggs, despite the price difference, are extremely likely to come from the exact same source.

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Post by BW1985 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:41 pm

sawhorse wrote:Massachusetts recently passed a bill requiring egg laying chickens to be housed in a space that averages at least a letter sized piece of paper per chicken. It was vehemently opposed by the industry. That should give you an idea about the conditions under which the chickens live.

Because cramming chickens so closely together increases the likelihood of disease, antibiotic use is ubiquitous.

I gladly pay more for free range eggs.
Ofcourse industry opposes it, it would reduce their profits off selling a dozen eggs for $0.79. :oops:

What happens when the only thing that matters to consumers is rock bottom prices, only thing that matters to the industry is profits and there is little to no regulation? Mistreatment and suffering.
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Post by EasilyConfused » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:45 pm

I doubt the cheap eggs are any better or worse for you from a health standpoint than eggs from responsibly raised chickens. They do taste worse and buying them supports a truly atrocious industry. Factory farmed chicken might be the worst of all factory farming from an animal welfare standpoint (pigs do give them a run for their money).

Buy the better eggs for flavor alone. We raise our own but are occasionally between flocks and have to buy some from the store. The step down in quality and flavor is just depressing.

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Post by workingovertime » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:57 pm

stoptothink wrote:
workingovertime wrote: I'm very into fitness and I consume lots of eggs (probably averages about 5 per day, whites only).
I wouldn't be too concerned about the cheaper eggs being in any way inferior, take advantage of the price wars going on in food right now. The bigger concern, to me, is why are you purposely tossing the most densely nutritious part of the egg?
A moderate amount is okay but I often eat 8 whites at a time every day or every other day after a rigorous workout or sometimes just in the morning (thus about avg 5 per day) and eating that much yolks at a time is just too much cholesterol. I also like to reduce my fat intake. I eat a lot throughout the day so if I don't cut down in some areas, it would be too much in my opinion despite how much I exercise.

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Post by barnaclebob » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:12 pm

123 wrote: I was raised in an area that had egg ranches all over. I can't comprehend much of a difference in the healthyness/quality of the eggs. Some neighbors raised chickens on the ground, based on what those chicken ate I wouldn't be enthused about "free range" eggs.

Edited to add:
Chickens have very few taste buds so they often don't discriminate about what they try to eat.
Are you afraid that the chickens ate :gasp: worms and bugs!??? That's just terrible.

OP, I raise my own layer hens and I don't think there is a huge nutritional difference but the yolks of pastured eggs are definitely superior in taste and appearance. The cheaper eggs may be smaller however. Whether the improvement in taste or appearance matters is up to you. If you can't afford eggs from chickens that were treated reasonably humanely then that's a moral choice you'll have to make. High protein diets can be expensive and I don't blame you if you didn't want to get your extra protein from nasty whey supplements. Aside from seafood I'm not sure if many other foods have as high of a protein/carb/fat ratio as eggs
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Post by kaprecht » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:19 pm

It sound like you are in a tricky spot:
1) Need lots of protein
2) Are on a budget
3) Are concerned about animal welfare

These are all reasonable things, but are certainly in conflict. I know animal protein is a very easy source of all necessary amino acids, but have you considered going to a cheaper form of protein? The beans and rice diet has worked for millennia, is cheap, and covers all of your amino acids if you do it right.

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Post by blueberry » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:20 pm

I happily pay extra for free range and/or organic, but consume the whole egg including yolk, and often have eggs for dinner. It's a cheap dinner compared to beef. I really enjoyed a short time when duck eggs were available (for a premium price) from a nearby farm. If I was only eating egg whites, well, I just don't think I'd bother, find another protein source.

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Post by Slacker » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:30 pm

Since you are only eating the whites, you are likely to notice little taste difference between the "industrial eggs" and free-range or cage free.

Kroger brand stores typically have cage-free eggs for sale @ $1.99 / dozen every 6-7 weeks and $2.49 / doz between those sales. The 18 pack at Kroger stores works out to about $2.80/doz when not on sale.

I'd go free range for the sake of the birds, but my wallet tells me that cage free, though only a modest improvement, is about what I can handle in my budget.

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Post by BW1985 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:32 pm

workingovertime wrote:
stoptothink wrote:
workingovertime wrote: I'm very into fitness and I consume lots of eggs (probably averages about 5 per day, whites only).
I wouldn't be too concerned about the cheaper eggs being in any way inferior, take advantage of the price wars going on in food right now. The bigger concern, to me, is why are you purposely tossing the most densely nutritious part of the egg?
A moderate amount is okay but I often eat 8 whites at a time every day or every other day after a rigorous workout or sometimes just in the morning (thus about avg 5 per day) and eating that much yolks at a time is just too much cholesterol. I also like to reduce my fat intake. I eat a lot throughout the day so if I don't cut down in some areas, it would be too much in my opinion despite how much I exercise.
There is approx 3g protein in the white and 3g protein in the yolk so instead of eating 8 whites why not just eat 4 whole eggs? Would be much less wasteful and you could afford to buy certified humane/pastured eggs.

Do some research on the effect of dietary cholesterol on blood cholesterol levels. I think your understanding may be differing from the latest research.
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Post by jebmke » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:32 pm

Aldi and Lidl have started an egg war in our area. Everyone is selling eggs for $.99 - maybe as a loss leader.
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Post by Marylander1 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:33 pm

BW1985 wrote:Anyone who says there's no difference between any eggs has not had good eggs.
+1! Our eggs come from our friends' pasture (where we help when we visit). Compared to real eggs from healthy chickens, lowest-bidder discount eggs are pale, runny imitations with flimsy shells.

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Post by ReadyOrNot » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:34 pm

It's generally accepted that factory farm chickens have pretty miserable conditions.
But just for nutrition, if you are just consuming mass quantities of egg white, that should limit the quality variation.
There isn't that much nutrition in egg whites other than the protein, so it may not matter much to you.
And you could probably substitute some humane source of lean protein, maybe soy protein.
(Is that the only complete protein from a vegetable source? Maybe quinoa or algae or something else.)

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Post by MrMojoRisin » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:38 pm

To tell if eggs are fresh or not put them in water. Eggs that float are not good. Eggs that sink are good. Eggs that group together and form their own forum are exceptional.

If you can find eggs raised local by mom and pop places the difference in the eggs is like the difference between American cheese and a good cheddar.....

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Post by workingovertime » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:47 pm

BW1985 wrote:
workingovertime wrote:
stoptothink wrote:
workingovertime wrote: I'm very into fitness and I consume lots of eggs (probably averages about 5 per day, whites only).
I wouldn't be too concerned about the cheaper eggs being in any way inferior, take advantage of the price wars going on in food right now. The bigger concern, to me, is why are you purposely tossing the most densely nutritious part of the egg?
A moderate amount is okay but I often eat 8 whites at a time every day or every other day after a rigorous workout or sometimes just in the morning (thus about avg 5 per day) and eating that much yolks at a time is just too much cholesterol. I also like to reduce my fat intake. I eat a lot throughout the day so if I don't cut down in some areas, it would be too much in my opinion despite how much I exercise.
There is approx 3g protein in the white and 3g protein in the yolk so instead of eating 8 whites why not just eat 4 whole eggs? Would be much less wasteful and you could afford to buy certified humane/pastured eggs.

Do some research on the effect of dietary cholesterol on blood chlosteol levels. I think your understanding may be differing from the latest research.
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workingovertime wrote:
BW1985 wrote:
workingovertime wrote:
stoptothink wrote:
workingovertime wrote: I'm very into fitness and I consume lots of eggs (probably averages about 5 per day, whites only).
I wouldn't be too concerned about the cheaper eggs being in any way inferior, take advantage of the price wars going on in food right now. The bigger concern, to me, is why are you purposely tossing the most densely nutritious part of the egg?
A moderate amount is okay but I often eat 8 whites at a time every day or every other day after a rigorous workout or sometimes just in the morning (thus about avg 5 per day) and eating that much yolks at a time is just too much cholesterol. I also like to reduce my fat intake. I eat a lot throughout the day so if I don't cut down in some areas, it would be too much in my opinion despite how much I exercise.
There is approx 3g protein in the white and 3g protein in the yolk so instead of eating 8 whites why not just eat 4 whole eggs? Would be much less wasteful and you could afford to buy certified humane/pastured eggs.

Do some research on the effect of dietary cholesterol on blood chlosteol levels. I think your understanding may be differing from the latest research.
Because it's not just about grams of "protein" And yes, there are so many research about whether cholesterol in egg yolks are good for you or bad for you. I personally choose not to eat yolks because I have a very strict diet for my goals.

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Post by TomatoTomahto » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:55 pm

BW1985 wrote:Do some research on the effect of dietary cholesterol on blood cholesterol levels. I think your understanding may be differing from the latest research.
Ding! Ding! Winner! Winner! Chicken dinner!

Uh, okay, maybe not chicken dinner, but you know what I mean.

ETA: the egg white is incomplete protein, and won't sustain life for bacteria that get through the egg's relatively permeable shell. The yolk, otoh, is perfect and complete protein. Lotsa calories and fat, granted, but complete protein and so very yummy :D
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Post by jadedfalcons » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:59 pm

Basically, what it boils down to is that a couple years ago, a lot of the poultry population was lost due to illness.

The companies over compensated in ramping back up the population, and now we have too many chickens. It's safe to say that nobody's making money on those cheep (swidt?) eggs, and that's also why you're seeing lower prices on the meat.

On the other hand, it's hurting the backyard poultry business. My chick supplier is down 30% this year. My sales are down on feeders, waterers, all that kind of stuff. Laying feed is currently holding up, but without a strong supply of baby chicks hitting the pipeline, the next few years will be a draw down on that end too. People have a hard time justifying going to all the work of raising those chickens, even though the eggs are better, when they can pick up eggs for 39¢ a dozen on sale at Hy-Vee.

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barnaclebob wrote: ...Are you afraid that the chickens ate :gasp: worms and bugs!??? That's just terrible. ...
Worms and bugs are healthy as far as I'm concerned. The thing that bothers me is when they pick and poke at the non-egg output from other chickens.
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123 wrote:
barnaclebob wrote: ...Are you afraid that the chickens ate :gasp: worms and bugs!??? That's just terrible. ...
Worms and bugs are healthy as far as I'm concerned. The thing that bothers me is when they pick and poke at the non-egg output from other chickens.
You're one of the people who should never go to the sausage factory if you want to continue to enjoy sausage.
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Abe wrote:I bought grade A large eggs recently for .45c a dozen at Aldi.
Egg prices spiked with the avian flu outbreak. As a result, egg prices temporarily neared $3.00 a dozen. Now the supply of eggs is back to normal, but exports of American eggs to other countries still haven't returned to their pre-bird flu levels. That's why prices have come down so much.
This nails it. (Some of the responses in this thread are off-topic.) Egg prices, like many commodities, are volatile, and depend on many factors. It's noise. Stay the (egg) course!

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Post by dual » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:04 pm

BW1985 wrote:
sawhorse wrote:Massachusetts recently passed a bill requiring egg laying chickens to be housed in a space that averages at least a letter sized piece of paper per chicken. It was vehemently opposed by the industry. That should give you an idea about the conditions under which the chickens live.

Because cramming chickens so closely together increases the likelihood of disease, antibiotic use is ubiquitous.

I gladly pay more for free range eggs.
Ofcourse industry opposes it, it would reduce their profits off selling a dozen eggs for $0.79. :oops:

What happens when the only thing that matters to consumers is rock bottom prices, only thing that matters to the industry is profits and there is little to no regulation? Mistreatment and suffering.
California passed an egg law a few years ago. It threw the egg industry for a loop and for a few months eggs were either unavailable or about $5/dozen for extra large. But they quickly recovered. Now eggs are abundantly available and about $1.25 for extra large and $1.49 for jumbos per dozen at Trader Joes. You can't keep free enterprise down :sharebeer

Eggs are an incredible bargain: a nutritional powerhouse that's good for you.

BTW, as with all things in nutrition, the health effects of the cholesterol in egg yolks is hotly debated.

BBTW, CA has such a huge population that probably most eggs in the Western US are raised under CA conditions although the only evidence I have is eggs purchased in Arizona

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workingovertime wrote:
BW1985 wrote:Factory farmed eggs, probably from battery caged hens that can't move. I'd say really bad.

Quality > Quantity. I'd rather have 1 dozen eggs from pasture raised hens than 10 dozen factory farmed.
I'd strongly considered only eating meat (and all products from it like eggs) from only brands that raise them to certain standards.... I know it's just an excuse to myself but I just can't afford it - ESPECIALLY the amount that I eat. I eat incredibly a lot (6-8 meals per day) and my grocery bills are already crazy due to my fitness goals.
Can't you just eat less and cut back a bit on the gainz?

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reriodan wrote:
workingovertime wrote:
BW1985 wrote:Factory farmed eggs, probably from battery caged hens that can't move. I'd say really bad.

Quality > Quantity. I'd rather have 1 dozen eggs from pasture raised hens than 10 dozen factory farmed.
I'd strongly considered only eating meat (and all products from it like eggs) from only brands that raise them to certain standards.... I know it's just an excuse to myself but I just can't afford it - ESPECIALLY the amount that I eat. I eat incredibly a lot (6-8 meals per day) and my grocery bills are already crazy due to my fitness goals.
Can't you just eat less and cut back a bit on the gainz?
Haha no. Lol

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Post by barnaclebob » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:45 pm

TomatoTomahto wrote:
123 wrote:
barnaclebob wrote: ...Are you afraid that the chickens ate :gasp: worms and bugs!??? That's just terrible. ...
Worms and bugs are healthy as far as I'm concerned. The thing that bothers me is when they pick and poke at the non-egg output from other chickens.
You're one of the people who should never go to the sausage factory if you want to continue to enjoy sausage.
Sausage is also one of those things thats not so bad when you DIY. Imagine making pork meatloaf but then stuffing it into casings.

Also my chickens (usually the young ones that don't know better) have a clear negative reaction every time they have a peck at droppings.

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Post by yatesd » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:00 pm

I agree with others...if you are concerned about value and ethics, then please use the whole egg.

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Post by hmw » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:29 pm

I don't have any scientific evidence to support that notion of that organic eggs are better than factory farmed eggs. But after watching "Food Inc", I only buy organic eggs now. Usually cost about $4 at my local HEB. Grocery is very small part of our household budget and I don't want to cheap out on eggs.

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Re: Cheap eggs... how bad?

Post by unclescrooge » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:40 pm

kaprecht wrote:It sound like you are in a tricky spot:
1) Need lots of protein
2) Are on a budget
3) Are concerned about animal welfare

These are all reasonable things, but are certainly in conflict. I know animal protein is a very easy source of all necessary amino acids, but have you considered going to a cheaper form of protein? The beans and rice diet has worked for millennia, is cheap, and covers all of your amino acids if you do it right.
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Re: Cheap eggs... how bad?

Post by tigermilk » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:53 pm

The $6/dozen eggs I buy go well with the $6/half gallon grass fed cow's milk. Quality costs. Why skimp on what goes down my throat?

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Re: Cheap eggs... how bad?

Post by mrc » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:39 am

TomatoTomahto wrote:...
ETA: the egg white is incomplete protein, and won't sustain life for bacteria that get through the egg's relatively permeable shell. The yolk, otoh, is perfect and complete protein. Lotsa calories and fat, granted, but complete protein and so very yummy :D
Egg white contains all nine essential amino acids, so they are "complete." The omega-3 omega-6 fatty acid composition differs considerably between industrial and pastured eggs. I eat whole eggs. If I wanted only the protein in the whites, I would go with powdered or liquid whites — I can't deal with tossing the yolks.
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Re: Cheap eggs... how bad?

Post by junior » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:50 am

workingovertime wrote:
stoptothink wrote:
workingovertime wrote: I'm very into fitness and I consume lots of eggs (probably averages about 5 per day, whites only).
I wouldn't be too concerned about the cheaper eggs being in any way inferior, take advantage of the price wars going on in food right now. The bigger concern, to me, is why are you purposely tossing the most densely nutritious part of the egg?
A moderate amount is okay but I often eat 8 whites at a time every day or every other day after a rigorous workout or sometimes just in the morning (thus about avg 5 per day) and eating that much yolks at a time is just too much cholesterol. I also like to reduce my fat intake. I eat a lot throughout the day so if I don't cut down in some areas, it would be too much in my opinion despite how much I exercise.
I'm guessing there are alternatives to your egg white plan an expert could provide.

For what it's worth a licensed nutritionist recommends low fat chocolate milk after a muscle workout. It's a source of protein and sugar is good to re-energize the muscles, evidently.

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Re: Cheap eggs... how bad?

Post by fposte » Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:05 am

junior wrote:
For what it's worth a licensed nutritionist recommends low fat chocolate milk after a muscle workout. It's a source of protein and sugar is good to re-energize the muscles, evidently.
Plus it's tastier than eggs :D. The main research is actually by a professor of kinesiology; there is no licensure for the term "nutritionist" in the US ("dietician" is the one you have to have qualifications to use).

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Re: Cheap eggs... how bad?

Post by junior » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:19 am

fposte wrote:
junior wrote:
For what it's worth a licensed nutritionist recommends low fat chocolate milk after a muscle workout. It's a source of protein and sugar is good to re-energize the muscles, evidently.
Plus it's tastier than eggs :D. The main research is actually by a professor of kinesiology; there is no licensure for the term "nutritionist" in the US ("dietician" is the one you have to have qualifications to use).
Good point, I got my terminology wrong. The "chocolate milk" suggestion after a work out is actually something I got from this video class from The Great Courses company:

http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/ ... clear.html

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Re: Cheap eggs... how bad?

Post by thecarrotfund » Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:43 am

I would suggest backyard chickens but I believe there is already a coyote problem? I can only eat restaurant eggs scrambled, eggs other than farm fresh are disgusting. My bad, confused the OP. No idea about coyote but can't delete post
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Re: Cheap eggs... how bad?

Post by Rupert » Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:56 am

IMHO, cheap eggs don't taste like anything. I grew up on a farm with lots of chickens and can tell you that those bleached white eggs you buy at the supermarket are not what eggs are supposed to look like. The best eggs in terms of taste (and probably nutrients as well, although I'm no poultry scientist or nutritionist) are small, speckled, and brown (sometimes with an ever-so-slight bluish or greenish tint). That's what I try to buy, whether they're free-range or organic or whatever.

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Re: Cheap eggs... how bad?

Post by lthenderson » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:08 pm

jharkin wrote:There is a difference, but you won't see it between grocery chains. We live in a town with lots of family farms, once in a while for a treat my wife will get eggs from the local farmer... around $2-$4 a dozen.

The yolks are not yellow, they are dark orange. And the flavor is so different grocery store eggs are like eating cardboard once you have tried a farm fresh egg.
There definitely is a color difference but having access to both, I don't notice much of a taste differences. Perhaps I don't have as good a palette. I do know that if you boil them, they are definitely easier to peel.

On a related note, we have stopped buying chicken from the grocery store and instead buy if from a local farmer. There is a stunning difference in taste and how it cooks compared to factory chickens. I will never buy a factory chicken from a grocery store again. I will go without if we run out. I will however buy the eggs if we run out of the farm fresh ones.

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