Passing through Las Vegas for 1.5 days..hiking

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Passing through Las Vegas for 1.5 days..hiking

Post by fishboat » Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:14 pm

Toward the end of the month we'll be flying into Las Vegas on our way to hiking on the North Rim, Grand Canyon.

While Vegas-strip can be somewhat entertaining, we're considering staying on the outside of Vegas and travel into the city-strip one day/evening. We'll have about 1.5 days in the Vegas-proper area.

Questions:
1) Is staying on the perimeter of Las Vegas and driving into town/the strip feasible? If so, what areas would be nice/reasonable/safe/easier access? How about parking in Vegas near the strip?

2) Other than the shows on the strip one day/evening, what are other options to see/do in the area? We may be hiking at Red Rocks just west of Vegas and may stop at Valley of Fire on the way to the North Rim. Other hiking, rental biking, things to see ideas?

3) Are there any options to stay on the perimeter of Vegas and park/access some shuttle or mass transit into the Strip?

4) Spending less time in the Vegas area and more time at some place along the drive to the North Rim is an option too..suggestions?

We know it may be a bit 'hot' around Vegas..we'll have to adjust accordingly. The North Rim promises to have a little more civilized temps. Seasonal highs/lows (averages) are supposed to be 77/59 on the NR.

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Post by dbr » Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:26 pm

Go see Hoover Dam if you never have. Be sure to sign up for a tour inside. You could stay nearer there than in LV.

Sites I once enjoyed were all industrial, a chocolate factory, a marshmallow factory, and the Ocean Spray canning plant in Henderson.

If you are into shows, then why not, but I wouldn't know much about it. We camped at Valley of Fire when going to North Rim for hiking.

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Post by Atilla » Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:28 pm

You might consider staying at the M Resort and Casino about 10 miles outside of town. Absolutely first class in everything, extremely friendly staff and inexpensive considering the quality of the place. Check their room rates for your preferred dates.

Free shuttle will take you to the strip for all the fun you can stand without the hassle of driving and parking.

We stayed there for a few nights last summer and loved the place.
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Post by runner3081 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:43 pm

Red Rock Casino and Resort is a nice spot. We stayed in that part of town a few years back. Mostly went hiking and went for a few drives. We did go into town one night and it was quick and easy.

No issues parking on the strip. To be honest, pick a central vegas hotel and just do valet. You only pay for the tip.

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Post by adamthesmythe » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:17 pm

I am not aware of any mass transit (not saying there isn't any, though).

If you want to visit the strip you might as well stay on the strip (if it's reasonable). Vegas hotel prices vary radically from day to day and you may luck out and see low prices. On the other hand, if there is a holiday or big event they may be stratospheric. Watch out for the resort fees, just consider them part of the hotel cost when you decide.

If you drive- traffic on the main drag (LV Blvd?) can be hellish. You need to access the strip from streets in back unless you want to spend all your time in traffic.

There are many many hiking options outside of the Grand Canyon. To mention a few: Cathedral Wash, Wire Pass/ Buckskin Gulch, Waterholes Canyon. There are many fewer places to stay. The two main towns are Kanab and Page. Several of the national parks are very accessible from Vegas, including Zion and (a bit farther away) Bryce.

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Post by fishboat » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:45 pm

Thanks all so far & thanks Adam for the hiking location suggestions, I'll look them up. Our lodging on the North Rim is all taken care of & decided. My questions are specifically for the LV segment of the trip. I'm still going through searches..looking at options..

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Post by hightower » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:53 pm

I was going to suggest Grand Canyon, but sounds like you're already going to be there. The hike from the North to the South Rim is spectacular. Stay at Phantom Ranch if you can. One of my favorite backpacking trips was hiking down to Phantom Ranch for a few days and coming back up the Bright Angel Trail.

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Post by iamlucky13 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:38 pm

1) You can definitely stay off the strip or even outside of town and still visit the strip, unless perhaps there is a big event going on. Almost all the hotels on the strip have large paid-parking garages so you can ditch the car and walk around to explore.

2) I honestly have no idea what to explore, though. I've been through 3 times now visiting family, and aside from a pretty consistently fun roller coaster ride during the flight in over the mountains and a couple hours taking in the novelty of the architecture, I find Vegas really boring. Apparently that's just me, though.

3) I'm not sure about shuttles, but probably. The off-strip hotels have to compete hard for business. Look a few up. My family in the area seems to like the Silver Sevens, but I know nothing specific about it.

I have not had much time to do much hiking in the area, but I do know there's plenty of it around both rims. Be prepared for lots of elevation gain (the wrong way - the harder uphill part is at the end of the day when you're ready to be done) and high temperatures. Temperatures can range from outrageous to moderate, even up at the rim. Night time temperatures can sometimes get rather cool. Carry plenty of water and be prepared to be later than you expected. I'm used to lots of elevation gain, but I know the heat slowed me down significantly near the south rim (Supai canyon).

It's monsoon season, so there is a risk of occasional severe thunderstorms. Depressions are often dry washes that can turn into raging rivers very quickly, and it doesn't even have to be raining - it might be dry where you are but pouring torrents a couple miles uphill. It's just something to be aware of so you can watch for changes and move to high ground.

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Post by tainted-meat » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:41 pm

Mount Charleston has great views once you hike to the top. It is also much cooler than Las Vegas due to the height.

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Post by fishboat » Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:54 pm

I've been banging on this for hours. I finally looked at google maps for the route between LV and the North Rim to see what was along the way..duh..I didn't realize we'd be driving so close to Zion. That seems like a no brainer..potentially cooler temps, but probably no warmer(?) and certainly much more interesting than Vegas. So..I think we may be flying into LV, hop in a car, and leave Vegas in the rear view mirror while we head for Hurricane/Springdale and a Zion visit before heading south to the North Rim.

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Post by dbr » Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:52 pm

fishboat wrote:I've been banging on this for hours. I finally looked at google maps for the route between LV and the North Rim to see what was along the way..duh..I didn't realize we'd be driving so close to Zion. That seems like a no brainer..potentially cooler temps, but probably no warmer(?) and certainly much more interesting than Vegas. So..I think we may be flying into LV, hop in a car, and leave Vegas in the rear view mirror while we head for Hurricane/Springdale and a Zion visit before heading south to the North Rim.
Coral Pink Sand Dunes just across the border in Utah is pretty cool.

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Post by Coyote » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:06 pm

fishboat wrote:I've been banging on this for hours. I finally looked at google maps for the route between LV and the North Rim to see what was along the way..duh..I didn't realize we'd be driving so close to Zion. That seems like a no brainer..potentially cooler temps, but probably no warmer(?) and certainly much more interesting than Vegas. So..I think we may be flying into LV, hop in a car, and leave Vegas in the rear view mirror while we head for Hurricane/Springdale and a Zion visit before heading south to the North Rim.
Don't know where you're coming from, but hiking in the LV area, and in Southern Utah in Aug is not going to be pleasant, at least in my experience. It's the middle of monsoon season (mid July-mid Sept) and it's hot -- I was in Vegas and near Zion in late July/early Aug last year, 108-112F every day, but we missed the rain. The monsoon comes and goes, you may luck out, or you may find it wet.

Altitude is your friend. At the top of Ceder Breaks NM (~ 10,000 ft) it was 72F, in St George (25 miles from Zion, and roughly the same altitude) it was 110F. North Rim is high, and nice if you get there between monsoon outbreaks, otherwise expect thunderstorms most afternoons/eve, and sometimes into the night. Start early, finish before noon, and drink water. Stay out of canyons if there is any chance of rain in the area; it may rain 15 miles away and flash flood where you are under blue skys. But, if you're from a high humidity area, you'll find it more tolerable, as it's a drier heat in general.

Otherwise, it's a nice area, and lots to see.

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Post by galectin » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:15 pm

For hiking information I recommend using AllTrails. It has a website at alltrails.com and apps for both iOS and Android phones. You can see trail lengths, difficulty ratings, and reviews by people who have hiked the trails.

The basic site and apps are free.

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Post by sergeant » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:32 pm

The mob museum was interesting. Vegas is real hot right now. Stay indoors if possible.
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Post by bta15 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:07 am

runner3081 wrote: No issues parking on the strip. To be honest, pick a central vegas hotel and just do valet. You only pay for the tip.
This used to be the case but is no longer true. Nearly all strip hotels now charge for self and valet parking, except for people with status in their casino. This is true for all caesars and MGM properties along with cosmo. Maybe Venetian/Palazzo, wynn/encore or TI still offer free parking?

There are a bunch of "locals" casinos away from the strip, some offer shuttles to the strip. As someone mentioned red rock casino is a beautiful property and is super close to red rock canyon. I've heard good things about the M.

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Post by Harley BenV » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:38 am

my Vegas visit is due this September. Will check this hiking spot. Apart from it what would you guys recommend to visit there? Casinos, clubs? Any other thing beside these?

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Post by BHUser27 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:41 am

Highly recommend staying at Red Rock resort and hiking one of the many trails at Red Rock Canyon.
Trails range from short/easy to long/difficult and there are plenty of rock climbing opportunities.
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Post by rocket354 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:02 am

fishboat wrote:Toward the end of the month we'll be flying into Las Vegas on our way to hiking on the North Rim, Grand Canyon.

While Vegas-strip can be somewhat entertaining, we're considering staying on the outside of Vegas and travel into the city-strip one day/evening. We'll have about 1.5 days in the Vegas-proper area.

Questions:
1) Is staying on the perimeter of Las Vegas and driving into town/the strip feasible? If so, what areas would be nice/reasonable/safe/easier access? How about parking in Vegas near the strip?

2) Other than the shows on the strip one day/evening, what are other options to see/do in the area? We may be hiking at Red Rocks just west of Vegas and may stop at Valley of Fire on the way to the North Rim. Other hiking, rental biking, things to see ideas?

3) Are there any options to stay on the perimeter of Vegas and park/access some shuttle or mass transit into the Strip?

4) Spending less time in the Vegas area and more time at some place along the drive to the North Rim is an option too..suggestions?

We know it may be a bit 'hot' around Vegas..we'll have to adjust accordingly. The North Rim promises to have a little more civilized temps. Seasonal highs/lows (averages) are supposed to be 77/59 on the NR.
I lived in Las Vegas for years.

1) Very feasible. I'll second (third?) the recommendation for Red Rock Casino, or, really, any hotel out in the Summerlin area, west of downtown. Pleasant, safe area with easy access to Red Rock Canyon one direction and the strip in the other (~20 mins drive either way). Parking on the strip: http://gamboool.com/las-vegas-hotel-par ... -the-strip.

2) The two you mentioned as well as Mt Charleston are the three big hiking areas that are "local" to Las Vegas. Of those, my favorite is VoF, then Mt Charleston. Given it's summer, Mt Charleston might be your best bet temperature-wise for hiking. VoF and RR Canyon are both very much worth at least driving through. If I may make a restaurant recommendation: Strip Steak in Manadalay Bay was my favorite while I was there. A bit pricey, but worth it.

3) Lots of casinos have shuttle service. If you stay at Red Rock Casino, for example, I imagine they should have service to and from the strip. Lyft/Uber is of course ubiquitous.

4) I can't really recommend anything other than the already-mentioned Hoover Dam. Death Valley is the other direction from the Grand Canyon and, not surprisingly, will be even hotter. Laughlin can be a fun trip with a lot more water-based activities; it's kind of the nearby place where Las Vegans go to get away. There really is a lot to see in Las Vegas itself. All the hotels are unique and have their own assortment of attractions, and downtown is worth going through for a little while (it's a very different crowd, however, but a prime spot for people-watching if that's your thing). On the strip, the Bellagio is my favorite to visit and just sight-see.

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Post by jodydavis » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:23 pm

If you are there primarily for the hiking, then Zion is a no-brainer. I actually prefer it to the Grand Canyon. If you can get a permit to do the overnight Narrows hike, do it, as it is spectacular (though even a short day hike from the bottom is terrific) - plus, it's very shady, so won't be too hot during that time of year.

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Post by adamthesmythe » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:13 pm

I saw 77/59 but didn't see "end of the month."

Yes, it will be hot, maybe very hot, in Vegas. The north rim is above 8000 ft so it will be quite cool. Zion will be in between and Bryce (higher than Zio) will be cooler than Zion.

Hiking at the lower elevations at 100+ degrees is tough for anyone but particularly if you are not accustomed to it. It is doable if you carry sufficient water, don't push yourself too much, and watch out for the onset of heat-related problems.

You will be there in monsoon season. You many not encounter a monsoon storm (they can be very localized) but if you do- they make eastern US thunderstorms look benign. Avoid the canyons if monsoon storms are possible.

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