Southwest...getting the miles by year end

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metrunt
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Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by metrunt » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:57 am

I'm getting so close to a Companion Pass! I have 90,200 miles and I need 110K by year end. My average spending is 3K a month on my Chase SW Black card.

Two questions...
1) According to the FAQ:
"When will I receive my points?
Points earned on purchases appear in your Rapid Rewards account up to 30 days after your statement cycle date."
So if my cycle date is the 15th, basically I have until November 15th to spend to earn. Is that accurate?

2) How can I spend 17K in a month on my Chase? Or otherwise get 17K in points? I don't want to waste money doing this, but a Companion pass would have at least a $2,500 value (4 trips a year with my wife @ $600 per trip), so I'd spend up to $1,000 I normally wouldn't (in finance charges, etc) to get there.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by BW1985 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:03 am

Points transferred from hotel partners will count towards the 110k. I don't think points transferred from UR will count, so you could either transfer UR to hotel to SW or buy hotel points and transfer to them to SW (if you don't have enough hotel points).

http://www.extrapackofpeanuts.com/south ... nion-pass/

I always receive my points when my statement closes. I think they just say it could take up to 30 days.
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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by covepatrol » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:05 am

Open the SW business card. Spend 2k in 3 months and you will get 50k miles.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by DoubleClick » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:09 am

Square or PayPal account and an optional card reader: charge yourself $17k. Less than $500 in fees.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by BW1985 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:00 am

DoubleClick wrote:Square or PayPal account and an optional card reader: charge yourself $17k. Less than $500 in fees.


Interesting, did not know you could do that.
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metrunt
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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by metrunt » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:10 am

Excellent ideas.

A couple other notes...My wife has 30K points on her SW account. I have a balance of 40K on my SW account. I also have 130K Amex points.

BW1985
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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by BW1985 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:18 am

metrunt wrote:Excellent ideas.

A couple other notes...My wife has 30K points on her SW account. I have a balance of 40K on my SW account. I also have 130K Amex points.


Not sure if she transferred hers to you if this would count or not towards companion, should check.
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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by 4th and Inches » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:29 am

Get a friend to sign up and you will get 5,000 points up to 50,000 for the year. I just referred my wife and mom-in-law a few days ago.

https://www.chase.com/referafriend/catch-all

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by Jags4186 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:39 am

BW1985 wrote:
DoubleClick wrote:Square or PayPal account and an optional card reader: charge yourself $17k. Less than $500 in fees.


Interesting, did not know you could do that.


Yea. Definitely do not do that unless you can stomach the possibility that they would hold your money hostage for undisclosed amounts of time. I don't use paypal for this very reason. They are draconian.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by DoubleClick » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:54 am

Jags4186 wrote:
BW1985 wrote:
DoubleClick wrote:Square or PayPal account and an optional card reader: charge yourself $17k. Less than $500 in fees.


Interesting, did not know you could do that.


Yea. Definitely do not do that unless you can stomach the possibility that they would hold your money hostage for undisclosed amounts of time. I don't use paypal for this very reason. They are draconian.


FUD. That possibility is virtually non-existent. They'll at most reject your transaction if the Paypal account holder and the credit card have the same name. They won't hold the money. Done and tried a gazillion times. Even if it's possible in theory, you have the cushion of telling your credit card provider to not pay.

Paypal is certainly a terrible company to deal with overall, which is why I mentioned Square first. Open an account in a family member's name that is different from your credit card if you want to be extra safe.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by Jags4186 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:03 am

DoubleClick wrote:
Jags4186 wrote:
BW1985 wrote:
DoubleClick wrote:Square or PayPal account and an optional card reader: charge yourself $17k. Less than $500 in fees.


Interesting, did not know you could do that.


Yea. Definitely do not do that unless you can stomach the possibility that they would hold your money hostage for undisclosed amounts of time. I don't use paypal for this very reason. They are draconian.


FUD. That possibility is virtually non-existent. They'll at most reject your transaction if the Paypal account holder and the credit card have the same name. They won't hold the money. Done and tried a gazillion times. Even if it's possible in theory, you have the cushion of telling your credit card provider to not pay.

Paypal is certainly a terrible company to deal with overall, which is why I mentioned Square first. Open an account in a family member's name that is different from your credit card if you want to be extra safe.


Do whatever you want. I will not do any MS activity with PayPal--especially $17,000. That is red flag central. Too many horror stories.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by BW1985 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:11 am

Would sales tax be due on that $17,000?
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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by sharpjm » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:15 am

There are a total of 3 Chase SW cards. Getting either of the other 2 would be the easiest route as they're all 50k bonus right now. They may actually be 40k, but you can easily find a referral link for 50k (I'd be happy to share my referral link for SW Plus card :D)

SW Shopping portal points count towards CP. They show up in account 1 month after purchase date. Rocketmiles hotel stays count toward CP but don't show up until a week or two after the hotel stay. My 700points for joining a promotional WSJ subscription counted toward CP but it doesn't look like the wine club bonus counted toward CP.

At this point, you might as well wait until 2017 and get both of the other 2 SW cards. You'll get 104k points right off the bat and can get CP in early 2017 that will last until end of 2018. Getting CP this late in the year is leaving a lot on the table.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by BW1985 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:23 am

sharpjm wrote:At this point, you might as well wait until 2017 and get both of the other 2 SW cards. You'll get 104k points right off the bat and can get CP in early 2017 that will last until end of 2018. Getting CP this late in the year is leaving a lot on the table.


If they will approve you for the other SW card (non-business) then this is the best suggestion. I forgot about the CP counting for the rest of the year plus the next year after that. You can probably time it so that you open the card this year but get the first bonus in January.

The problem is that I don't know if you'll get approved for the Plus if you already have the Premier, or vice-versa. I was approved for the Plus and the Business card.
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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by LarryAllen » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:38 am

I would transfer some hotel points if you have them. Best deal, in my opinion, is doing a Marriott 5 or 7 day travel package. The 5 day isn't on the website but is available if you ask. You get airline points and a hotel stay.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by killjoy2012 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:24 pm

Possibly consider a mileage run. Monitor the FT forum for opportunities.

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Post by centrifuge41 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:55 am

killjoy2012 wrote:Possibly consider a mileage run. Monitor the FT forum for opportunities.

Doesn't exactly work in the traditional sense, since with Southwest, you earn points per dollar spent. 6 points/dollar for Wanna Get Away, and up to 12 points/$ for Business Select.

Do you have a copious amount of Starpoints/Marriott points that you could transfer in, say, via a vacation package? How about other hotel points, even if the transfer ratio isn't the best?

Also keep your eyes peeled in case of 1800 flowers, or other portal deals :)

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by sawhorse » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:40 am

Overpay estimated taxes with your credit card. Much surer option than Paypaling yourself. The fee is 1.87% I think.

Or go on a mileage run if you need BiS (butt in seat) miles.

This is around the time of year that the folks at Flyertalk start their runs.

There are some seriously crazy people on that board. Someone did 37500 miles without leaving an airport. There are usually a couple members doing back to back round trips from the US to Singapore, ie fly to Singapore and back, and do it again, without leaving an airport. The Singapore airport is supposed to be the best airport to be stuck in.

Since Southwest is domestic, you might try to string together a multi leg journey, ie travel from Dallas to Houston via Las Vegas, Detroit, Seattle, Miami, Boston, and Tulsa. The folks in Flyertalk can tell you all about it.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by 8foot7 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:42 pm

Do no, repeat, do not, I'll stress again, do NOT, manufacture $17,000 worth of spending through your PayPal account. Horrible idea.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by sharpjm » Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:50 am

BW1985 wrote:The problem is that I don't know if you'll get approved for the Plus if you already have the Premier, or vice-versa. I was approved for the Plus and the Business card.

They will approve you for both. I actually had all 3 cards at one point in time but I just closed the business version a couple months ago. I got Plus in May of this year and personal Premier exactly 1 month later. You can get 2 chase cards per 30 days so in theory you could get both at the same time with 1 hardpull.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by Drew777 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:57 am

sawhorse wrote:Overpay estimated taxes with your credit card. Much surer option than Paypaling yourself. The fee is 1.87% I think.

Or go on a mileage run if you need BiS (butt in seat) miles.

This is around the time of year that the folks at Flyertalk start their runs.

There are some seriously crazy people on that board. Someone did 37500 miles without leaving an airport. There are usually a couple members doing back to back round trips from the US to Singapore, ie fly to Singapore and back, and do it again, without leaving an airport. The Singapore airport is supposed to be the best airport to be stuck in.

Since Southwest is domestic, you might try to string together a multi leg journey, ie travel from Dallas to Houston via Las Vegas, Detroit, Seattle, Miami, Boston, and Tulsa. The folks in Flyertalk can tell you all about it.


Mileage runs don't work with Southwest. It's a revenue based system, not distance based. Anyway, mileage runs are usually done to get to the next status level. It's rarely worth the cost just to earn points, even with most mistake fares.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by Jack FFR1846 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:06 pm

This week, Stop & Shop is offering 2X gas points for AMEX gift card purchases. Every $750 will get you $1.50 a gallon off of 20 gallons. That's a lot of gift cards set up for a lot of discounted gas. Other ways to spend....Gamestop. You can get gift cards there for Amazon, Shell gas, subway, burger king etc. Again, $17k is a lot to spend. Oh...if you do that, open a powerup rewards account and you get points towards stuff.
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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by bta15 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:33 pm

Get chase Marriott card with 87.5k sign up bonus, xfer 51k+ over to get the 17k miles you need

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by niceguy7376 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:19 pm

I just got approved to two Chase SW cards. I now need to time the 110K to post in January. So, I need to spend 10k across two cards by January 10th (not too close to Jan 1st).

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by sharpjm » Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:40 pm

bta15 wrote:Get chase Marriott card with 87.5k sign up bonus, xfer 51k+ over to get the 17k miles you need

Not a good card unless you're trying to fit it under 5/24 restrictions. Amex SPG will get you 90k Marriott points without having to pay an $85 fee as soon as you open it.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by Drew777 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:21 am

sharpjm wrote:
bta15 wrote:Get chase Marriott card with 87.5k sign up bonus, xfer 51k+ over to get the 17k miles you need

Not a good card unless you're trying to fit it under 5/24 restrictions. Amex SPG will get you 90k Marriott points without having to pay an $85 fee as soon as you open it.


I think the advantage is being able to still get the Amex SPG cards after maxing out 5/24.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by blueman457 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:21 am

With Southwests refund policy (you get credit back, no fees), I think you can book flights in advance and get the points now. If you end up not wanting to take those booked trips cancel them and rebook the flight you want.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by sawhorse » Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:30 pm

niceguy7376 wrote:I just got approved to two Chase SW cards. I now need to time the 110K to post in January. So, I need to spend 10k across two cards by January 10th (not too close to Jan 1st).


Why not too close to Jan 1st?

Easiest way is estimated taxes.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by niceguy7376 » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:44 am

sawhorse wrote:
niceguy7376 wrote:I just got approved to two Chase SW cards. I now need to time the 110K to post in January. So, I need to spend 10k across two cards by January 10th (not too close to Jan 1st).


Why not too close to Jan 1st?

Easiest way is estimated taxes.


Our taxes are due by 15th Nov. I plan on paying them with both my cards next week and then control so that i hit the 110 in jan to be eligible for 2017 and 2018

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Post by sawhorse » Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:41 pm

niceguy7376 wrote:
sawhorse wrote:
niceguy7376 wrote:I just got approved to two Chase SW cards. I now need to time the 110K to post in January. So, I need to spend 10k across two cards by January 10th (not too close to Jan 1st).


Why not too close to Jan 1st?

Easiest way is estimated taxes.


Our taxes are due by 15th Nov. I plan on paying them with both my cards next week and then control so that i hit the 110 in jan to be eligible for 2017 and 2018


You can overpay, or you can make an estimated payment in January to count for 2017.

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Re: Southwest...getting the miles by year end

Post by NoGambleNoFuture » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:12 pm

+1 against Paypal - hate them.

Venmo might work ;)

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