What kind of car do Bogleheads like to drive?

f4d · Post by **f4d** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:25 pm

Petrocelli wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:08 pm FYI, my daughter drives VW Jetta. It drives well and has been good on maintenance.

My son drives a Honda CRV. That's also a good choice.

angelescrest · Post by **angelescrest** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:30 pm

tbone555 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:19 am 2021 Toyota Sienna XLE. Had it for a week so far and love it.

The hybrid? I’m really interested in it. How does it compare with previous minivans?

Rudy Tooty · Post by **Rudy Tooty** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:35 pm

Me: 1997 Toyota Rav4, Mint, 119,200 mi.
Spouse: 2019 Lexus

jabberwockOG · Post by **jabberwockOG** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:41 pm

Dodge Challenger
MGB
VW Rabbit
Pontiac Grand Prix
Acura Legend
Acura RL
Lexus LS

tbone555 · Post by **tbone555** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:42 pm

angelescrest wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:30 pm
tbone555 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:19 am 2021 Toyota Sienna XLE. Had it for a week so far and love it.
The hybrid? I’m really interested in it. How does it compare with previous minivans?

This is my first minivan, but the hybrid powertrain was what attracted me to it. I test drove the 2021 Odyssey, but really preferred the Sienna's steering and generally cushy ride. The 36MPG for the Sienna is amazing for such a large vehicle. I've also seen some reviews on the Odyssey having electronic problems the last couple of years.

This is also my first Toyota and expected reliability was such that I didn't even test drive the Chrysler Pacifica. And the Pacifica only has 7 seats while my Sienna has 8.

I've always bought base model cars, so this is my first real splurge. We got the plus package, and entertainment system. It's a great minivan. Very happy so far

jabberwockOG · Post by **jabberwockOG** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:46 pm

Mostly Honda and Acura for many years, last 15 years we switched to Toyota and Lexus. Probably stick with that as reliability/quality is priority 1, nothing else matters without it.

calvin+hobbes · Post by **calvin+hobbes** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:30 pm

phxjcc wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:00 pm
calvin+hobbes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:21 pm
phxjcc wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:54 pm
EASY.
PSM & ASM

Plus the 40JAHRE has the X power pack and a real LSD.

If you SHUNT, it was YOU
I believe the 997.1 and 997.2 GT cars have the ability to turn traction and stability control off and also do not have true PSM.
True, but I have never driven one.

Just as an FYI For me, have you ever tried the PORSCHE Experience?
Any opinions?

No, the course at Barber Motorsports is on the bucket list though and actually not too far from me. I mostly just drive my 993 on back roads and around town, as spiritedly as possible.

anil686 · Post by **anil686** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:05 am

May sound strange but I bought a Chevy Bolt in August of this year. Best car I have ever bought and the ultimate BH car IMO. Needs tire rotation, cabin air filter changes and that’s it. Plug in every night, save over my hybrid and it is a joy to drive....

beyou · Post by **beyou** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:18 am

4 Subarus over last 2 decades.
2 Toyotas before that.

All very good cars and not that expensive.

AbelArcher · Post by **AbelArcher** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:42 am

I own two vehicles.

In true Boglehead fashion, one is a 2020 Porsche 911 Turbo S Cabriolet and the other is a 1996 Honda Accord LX with 386,000 miles on it.

f4d · Post by **f4d** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:25 am

tibbitts wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:25 pm
f4d wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:01 pm
Rondo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:50 pm We have...

2012 Jeep Wrangler
2014 Dodge Grand Caravan
2017 Corvette Grand Sport

Minivan is most comfortable, Corvette is most fun!
We are a true Boglehead Family

2004 Honda CRV with 90,000 miles...by man of the house
2001 Toyota Solara with 15,000 miles...by woman of the house
And you resurrected this thread from 2016 because... ???

ddurrett896 · Post by **ddurrett896** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:34 am

Toyota

Rifampin · Post by **Rifampin** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:05 am

DS03 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:45 am 2015 Audi S4 DSG (mine)

2017 Acura RDX (wife's)

Just picked up a 13’ S4 DSG. Love it so far. Do yourself a favor and get the EPL stage 1 ECU/TCU tune. It’s on sale right now. Bumped me up to 450hp and even quicker shifts.

Piper59 · Post by **Piper59** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:15 am

Daily Driver - 2005 Ford Ranger Base Model (Inherited from my late father) - I would have never bought this truck but I actually like it now.
DW Daily Driver - 2015 Honda CRV - fully loaded - was the sales mgr's car and I got it at the end of the year; She doesn't like this CRV as much as the previous model from 2005.

Toys - both fully restored
1972 Chevy C10 Shortbed
1966 VW Beetle

mclvngr · Post by **mclvngr** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:24 am

2000 Acura RL with 88,000 miles
2003 Toyota Tacoma Double Cab 4x4 with 110k
2012 Toyota Prius Plug-in with 100k+

Bruse213 · Post by **Bruse213** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:50 am

Me: Tesla Model Y Performance
Wife: 2017 Highlander Limited (no comparison to the Tesla!)

Equitius · Post by **Equitius** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:53 am

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Dave55 · Post by **Dave55** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:55 am

abuss368 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:07 pm Nissan Altima?

Tony, you have to tell us about the Rolls! Is it your favorite or do you prefer the Bentley?

Dave

Workaholic · Post by **Workaholic** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:29 am

Equitius wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:53 am I like my 2012 Chevrolet. I paid cash for it and will drive it till it rusts.

Sorry, Apple/Tesla/BMW/Audi/Lexus.

You mean a 2012 Chevrolet HASN'T rusted yet?! Just joking...well...sort of

.

abuss368 · Post by **abuss368** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:37 pm

Dave55 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:55 am
abuss368 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:07 pm Nissan Altima?
Tony, you have to tell us about the Rolls! Is it your favorite or do you prefer the Bentley?

Dave

Dave -

Let me check with my Butler and get back to you as I don’t drive!

Tony

Grasshopper · Post by **Grasshopper** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:25 pm

My localmotion is a 2009 GMC PU 4WD 140K. My freeway flyer is a 2019 Hyundai Santa Fe, it fits 2 big cooler for big city shopping. This car is exactly suited for me keeps in the lane when I start to wander, stops when there is something in the road and lets me know not to change lanes when another vehicle is already there. Plus it will probably kick the bucket about the same time I do.

Petrocelli · Post by **Petrocelli** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:30 pm

2019 Mercedes C300 Coupe.

My favorite car ever. I love having a two door because the from seats are bigger when there is no back seat.

Fast, quiet, and comfortable.

CycloRista · Post by **CycloRista** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:35 pm

'02 Toyota Camry (given to my daughter by a grandparent)
'06 Acrua TSX 6-speed manual (purchased used)
'15 Honda (purchased used a few months ago)... I've only purchased one new car ever and sold it for what I drive now.

abuss368 · Post by **abuss368** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:43 pm

Petrocelli wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:30 pm 2019 Mercedes C300 Coupe.

My favorite car ever. I love having a two door because the from seats are bigger when there is no back seat.

Fast, quiet, and comfortable.

Hi Petro -

Can picture you driving that with windows down, arm hanging out, and wearing that watch!

Best.
Tony

f4d · Post by **f4d** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:25 pm

IowaFarmWife wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:29 pm
Workaholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:44 pm
IowaFarmWife wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:34 pm This thread resurfaced just in time for me...I just bought myself a new 2020 Honda CRV tonight. This is the first brand new car i've ever owned in my life.
How do you like it? My mom buys a new CRV every two years and she swears by them. Probably a bit small for what I need but she loves hers! What trim level did you get? I want to say she either has an EX-L or Touring.
I just picked it up this morning, and so far so good. We had do drive it home in a blizzard over in-town roads, a highway, and gravel roads and it did great! We have the EX edition, with heated seats (a must in Iowa), a ton of safety features that I am still figuring out, and it was a very comfortable ride. At this point in my life I am no longer carting my kids around, and only use it for commuting to work and errands around town with my husband, so it is plenty large enough for what I need. When I brought it home and showed my grown children the new car, they were amazed that I purchased something with less than 50K miles on it! I traditionally have bought used cars with a lot of miles on it. "Mom, that car only has 38 miles on it so far!!!!"

I have LOT's of Irish relatives in Iowa. Sorry to hear about the blizzard, haven't seen any since I moved from Illinois to Florida. Usually CAVU (clear air visibity unlimited) and 80 degrees down here. If any of those grown children complain to their mother, IowaFarmWife, tell them the English proverb my wife from Liverpool taught me: "There is no pockets in shrouds." Charles Dickens said ''there is no pockets in shrouds'', so do not work all days and nights ...

f4d · Post by **f4d** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:39 pm

stocknoob4111 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:29 pm
f4d wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:35 am Was 2016 before FEDEX or UPS delivery was invented?
?? It took a few weeks to build and then 2 months on a ship from Hiroshima to San Diego harbor. From there it was shipped by truck to Huntington Beach, CA where I lived at the time.

I put in a factory order because there were no 6spd vehicles in the trim/color that I wanted. In fact, manual transmissions itself are really hard to find.

Even though it was a test of patience to wait , it was fun as Mazda actually sent me pics/video of my car as it was being built (engine assembly, chassis, paint shop etc.) Then I got the tracking# where I could monitor the ship as it made it's way from Japan to the US.

Sounds like that 6 spd Mazda was worth the wait. The last manual transmission I drove was a 5 spd Nissan 240SX. I used to drive, late at night with my wife from Liverpool, just to show her some Americans could drive small cars at high speeds and manual transmissions. The University of Illinois cops could never catch a 5 spd Nissan or 6 spd Mazda. They could never afford a nice car.

2tall4economy · Post by **2tall4economy** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:52 pm

What do I like to drive? My Ferrari 360. Manual with the top down.

What will most people on this board recommend? Something exceptionally boring and either electric or Japanese under the mistaken belief that only Japanese vehicles are of high quality and only electric vehicles are exciting.

The quality thing was true in the 1980s. And maybe 1990s. Less true in last 20 years. The electric thing remains false. Still waiting for that to be true.

But anyway, if you hate cars and view them as appliances, follow everyone’s recommendation and buy a Toyota econobox and spend your money on things you otherwise have a passion for.

Horologium · Post by **Horologium** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:32 pm

jabberwockOG wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:46 pm Mostly Honda and Acura for many years, last 15 years we switched to Toyota and Lexus. Probably stick with that as reliability/quality is priority 1, nothing else matters without it.

Same here. Last car was a used Toyota Camry. When the dealership started the extended warranty pitch I laughed and said I considered the premium I was paying for a Toyota compared to other brands *was* the extended warranty.

f4d · Post by **f4d** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:19 am

What part of Iowa.

f4d · Post by **f4d** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:22 am

f4d wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:25 pm
IowaFarmWife wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:29 pm
Workaholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:44 pm
IowaFarmWife wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:34 pm This thread resurfaced just in time for me...I just bought myself a new 2020 Honda CRV tonight. This is the first brand new car i've ever owned in my life.
How do you like it? My mom buys a new CRV every two years and she swears by them. Probably a bit small for what I need but she loves hers! What trim level did you get? I want to say she either has an EX-L or Touring.
I just picked it up this morning, and so far so good. We had do drive it home in a blizzard over in-town roads, a highway, and gravel roads and it did great! We have the EX edition, with heated seats (a must in Iowa), a ton of safety features that I am still figuring out, and it was a very comfortable ride. At this point in my life I am no longer carting my kids around, and only use it for commuting to work and errands around town with my husband, so it is plenty large enough for what I need. When I brought it home and showed my grown children the new car, they were amazed that I purchased something with less than 50K miles on it! I traditionally have bought used cars with a lot of miles on it. "Mom, that car only has 38 miles on it so far!!!!"
I have LOT's of Irish relatives in Iowa. Sorry to hear about the blizzard, haven't seen any since I moved from Illinois to Florida. Usually CAVU (clear air visibity unlimited) and 80 degrees down here. If any of those grown children complain to their IowaFarmWife, tell them the English proverb my wife from Liverpool taught me: "There are no pockets in shrouds." According to the Oxford Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, Proverbial saying, mid 19th century; meaning that worldly wealth cannot be kept and used after death.

Merry Christmas

Petrocelli · Post by **Petrocelli** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:43 pm

abuss368 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:43 pm
Petrocelli wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:30 pm 2019 Mercedes C300 Coupe.

My favorite car ever. I love having a two door because the from seats are bigger when there is no back seat.

Fast, quiet, and comfortable.

Hi Petro -

Can picture you driving that with windows down, arm hanging out, and wearing that watch!

Best.
Tony

Tony:

Ha!

I've been driving a base model c series 4 door since 1997. I almost never have another person in the car, so I figured it was time for a 2 door.

However, unless you have a $5,000 watch, Mercedes won't let you test drive the car. So I had that going for me, which is nice.

Merry Christmas!

Petro

abuss368 · Post by **abuss368** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:45 pm

Petrocelli wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:43 pm
abuss368 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:43 pm
Petrocelli wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:30 pm 2019 Mercedes C300 Coupe.

My favorite car ever. I love having a two door because the from seats are bigger when there is no back seat.

Fast, quiet, and comfortable.

Hi Petro -

Can picture you driving that with windows down, arm hanging out, and wearing that watch!

Best.
Tony
Tony:

Ha!

I've been driving a base model c series 4 door since 1997. I almost never have another person in the car, so I figured it was time for a 2 door.

However, unless you have a $5,000 watch, Mercedes won't let you test drive the car. So I had that going for me, which is nice.

Merry Christmas!

Petro

Hi Petro -

You are awesome sir and love your posts! I have learned much.

I hope you are well and Merry Christmas!

Best.
Tony

mike77308 · Post by **mike77308** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:52 pm

My daily drivers
1999 Ford Ranger, bought new now with 250K miles
2009 Ford Focus SEL, bought used in 2015
1997 Dodge B3500 one ton van, mostly used for towing, bought from my brother's employer in 2011, a no rust Florida vehicle

The Ranger gets parked when they salt the roads, Focus gets 34-38 mpg, hand calculated, and handles as good as many sports cars.
Being a life long gear head I do ALL the work on my vehicles and enjoy doing it. The Dodge is the only vehicle that I own with an automatic transmission. Sometimes I think about putting a manual trans in but there is no room in the footwell for a clutch pedal.

Other vehicles in my garage:
1954 Ford F-100 pickup truck, bought in early 1990's
1965 Triumph TR4a, friend gave it to me after sitting in his garage for 38 years, had it running the next day, resto project with son
1977 Ferrari 308GT4, bought 2000, only 2828 built 1974-80
1983 Audi ur-Quattro, bought 1997, only 650 imported 1983-85, probably only 300 left in the US
1966 BSA 650 Spitfire Mk11 motorcycle, traded a friend a McDonalds cheeseburger for it over 45 years ago when he moved overseas.

The company that I retired from has an annual car show, a couple of years ago I took my son's 1984 VW GTI, a "survivor" car in great condition, to the show and came home with a 2nd place trophy. 1st place was taken by a Tesla!!! A Tesla!!! All the young employees were gushing over all the tech features, none cared about all the classic cars in attendance. Hopefully I will be dead before electric cars are mandated.

WhiteMaxima · Post by **WhiteMaxima** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:54 pm

Mazda zoom zoom zoom

BeachPerson · Post by **BeachPerson** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:55 am

From The Millionaire Next Door, Toyotas, Hondas and Fords.

I have a Toyota RAV4

OldBallCoach · Post by **OldBallCoach** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:22 am

2020 Toyota Land Cruiser, 2019 4 Runner and a 4% Rebate Costco card for gas, also have a 2005 Jeep Wrangler for the lake house and a Nissan GTR for therapy. Shell just sent us another nice Christmas card.

IowaFarmWife · Post by **IowaFarmWife** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:36 am

f4d wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:19 am What part of Iowa.

NW Iowa near Sioux City.

HRPennypacker · Post by **HRPennypacker** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:51 am

OldBallCoach wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:22 am 2020 Toyota Land Cruiser, 2019 4 Runner and a 4% Rebate Costco card for gas, also have a 2005 Jeep Wrangler for the lake house and a Nissan GTR for therapy. Shell just sent us another nice Christmas card.

Just curious: Why both the LC and 4Runner? I love both (I own neither), particularly the LC.

johnegonpdx · Post by **johnegonpdx** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:21 am

2010 Highlander (me)
2013 Prius V (spouse)
2016 Mazda3 (son)

We're a "replace no sooner than 10 years or 100k" type family.

Got the rule of thumb from my dad.

That said, the Highlander is running really well, and my wife hardly uses the Prius (super low mileage).

So, we're probably going to use them at least a few more years.

Also, I think I'm done buying new cars.

f4d · Post by **f4d** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:25 am

MI_bogle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:10 pm
nchowrin wrote:2016 Toyota Prius IV, with all the bells & whistles (i.e. technology & convenience package). I averaged 75 mpg the first 1,000 miles. I can get in the mid 80's mpg if I really try and mid 60's mpg without trying at all. The best car I've ever owned and that includes a previous Prius II, Mazda RX-7 and Toyota Celica.
Are you driving mostly city, highway...? Got any tips for getting such amazing mileage on the new Prii? I have heard that real-world mileage is significantly higher than the EPA sticker for a lot of owners of the 2016 models

Tip for better mpg. If you see a far away traffic signal turn red, immediately take the foot off the pedal and start coasting. If you time it just right, you can coast up to the intersection just as the light turns green. Think of the savings in mpg.

On the other hand, the driver who may be sleeping behind me sees no brake lights. He may assume traffic is flowing at the legal limit, and rear end my car. You may waste some time in traffic court, but usually an alert traffic policemen will issue a citation on the spot to the other drive. In any case, you should be able to win the case and collect damages if the other insists on going to court, (maybe even more for pain and suffering). I have never had to go that far yet.

Tingting1013 · Post by **Tingting1013** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:43 am

Pre pandemic we drove a 2018 Nissan Leaf and a 2015 BMW 5 series.

We got rid of both and consolidated to a 2020 Honda Clarity.

In the new year we’ll probably get rid of that as well and replace it with an electric SUV, the Rivian R1S or Jaguar J-Pace.

Normchad · Post by **Normchad** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:51 am

Petrocelli wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:43 pm
Tony:

Ha!

I've been driving a base model c series 4 door since 1997. I almost never have another person in the car, so I figured it was time for a 2 door.

However, unless you have a $5,000 watch, Mercedes won't let you test drive the car. So I had that going for me, which is nice.

Merry Christmas!

Petro

I nominate this for funniest post of 2020!

Wishing everybody a happy and healthy 2021!

austin757 · Post by **austin757** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:53 am

2018 Toyota Camry LE

No complaints.

tdmp · Post by **tdmp** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:59 am

2017 Toyota Prius Prime: low cost (after all discounts and federal/state rebate), low maintenance, safe enough, and reliable.
Rarely visit gas station: just plug in once a day
Easy to maintain: DIY: cabin air filter, engine air filter, windshield wipers. Oil Change once a year
Boring like most bogleheads' portfolio, but it works well.

joeblow · Post by **joeblow** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:08 pm

I'd like to drive a Porsche 911 Carrera 4S, but currently drive an eight year old Subaru Outback with fairly low miles.

Sandtrap · Post by **Sandtrap** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:13 pm

Most of my working years was spent driving something like this. Usually bought used.
Passenger side filled with stuff, sometimes a portable table saw or ceramic saw on a tarp, backseat filled with organizer bins for paperwork, clothes, gear, tool bags, and a monster size lunch cooler. No passenger space.

Now, a Toyota Tundra TRD 4wd. No pipe rack. No tools. Golf clubs.
j

f4d · Post by **f4d** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:29 pm

Tingting1013 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:43 am Pre pandemic we drove a 2018 Nissan Leaf and a 2015 BMW 5 series.

We got rid of both and consolidated to a 2020 Honda Clarity.

In the new year we’ll probably get rid of that as well and replace it with an electric SUV, the Rivian R1S or Jaguar J-Pace.

You sure are keeping up with technology, even getting a little ahead'

mtwhmemn · Post by **mtwhmemn** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:37 pm

mike77308 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:52 pm My daily drivers
1999 Ford Ranger, bought new now with 250K miles
2009 Ford Focus SEL, bought used in 2015
1997 Dodge B3500 one ton van, mostly used for towing, bought from my brother's employer in 2011, a no rust Florida vehicle

The Ranger gets parked when they salt the roads, Focus gets 34-38 mpg, hand calculated, and handles as good as many sports cars.
Being a life long gear head I do ALL the work on my vehicles and enjoy doing it. The Dodge is the only vehicle that I own with an automatic transmission. Sometimes I think about putting a manual trans in but there is no room in the footwell for a clutch pedal.

Other vehicles in my garage:
1954 Ford F-100 pickup truck, bought in early 1990's
1965 Triumph TR4a, friend gave it to me after sitting in his garage for 38 years, had it running the next day, resto project with son
1977 Ferrari 308GT4, bought 2000, only 2828 built 1974-80
1983 Audi ur-Quattro, bought 1997, only 650 imported 1983-85, probably only 300 left in the US
1966 BSA 650 Spitfire Mk11 motorcycle, traded a friend a McDonalds cheeseburger for it over 45 years ago when he moved overseas.

The company that I retired from has an annual car show, a couple of years ago I took my son's 1984 VW GTI, a "survivor" car in great condition, to the show and came home with a 2nd place trophy. 1st place was taken by a Tesla!!! A Tesla!!! All the young employees were gushing over all the tech features, none cared about all the classic cars in attendance. Hopefully I will be dead before electric cars are mandated.

308GT4 is one of my favorite designs that seems to have been discovered as important recently I think? Since the '80s I lusted after 246s. I lived with an Alfa Spider for almost 20 years, loved it most of the time. "Replaced" the Alfa with a couple mid engine Japanese cars. One was handmade the other was hand assembled. Yeah, it is a good riddle.

f4d · Post by **f4d** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:47 pm

Tingting1013 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:43 am Pre pandemic we drove a 2018 Nissan Leaf and a 2015 BMW 5 series.

We got rid of both and consolidated to a 2020 Honda Clarity.

In the new year we’ll probably get rid of that as well and replace it with an electric SUV, the Rivian R1S or Jaguar J-Pace.

Tingting1013 · Post by **Tingting1013** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:52 pm

f4d wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:47 pm
Tingting1013 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:43 am Pre pandemic we drove a 2018 Nissan Leaf and a 2015 BMW 5 series.

We got rid of both and consolidated to a 2020 Honda Clarity.

In the new year we’ll probably get rid of that as well and replace it with an electric SUV, the Rivian R1S or Jaguar J-Pace.
You sure are keeping up with technology - in some cases even getting ahead

The Clarity was largely a financial decision: buying a car every year for almost no money

Holding onto the BMW and Leaf was costing me $6k+ per year in depreciation