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Post by corn18 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:59 pm

OP back again. I bought one of these:

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Got a good price on it used and just pulled the trigger. Should be here Saturday. So I went from a $20k watch to a $3500 watch.

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Post by daveydoo » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:13 pm

corn18 wrote: I bought one of these:
Wish I could just "like" something instead of posting, but I can't resist. Looks beautiful; enjoy!
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Post by corn18 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:38 am

Well, as it turns out, I bought one of these as well:

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Made a low offer on Ebay and they accepted it. Not in the plan, but now I can choose which one I like and sell the other. Fun times.

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Post by howtohowto » Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:26 am

corn18 wrote:Well, as it turns out, I bought one of these as well:

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Made a low offer on Ebay and they accepted it. Not in the plan, but now I can choose which one I like and sell the other. Fun times.
IWC Pilot is one of the most replicated models in the world and there are a lot of grade A+ fakes on ebay. Caveat emptor

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I don't see all that much difference.
*shrug*

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Post by corn18 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:35 pm

I can't tell the dang difference between a diamond and a CZ and yet my wife has a boxful of diamonds. Shrugs.

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Post by corn18 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:37 pm

howtohowto wrote:
IWC Pilot is one of the most replicated models in the world and there are a lot of grade A+ fakes on ebay. Caveat emptor
That's not good news. Both transactions are through PayPal so does that provide any protection?

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Post by Incendiary » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:29 am

corn18 wrote:
howtohowto wrote:
IWC Pilot is one of the most replicated models in the world and there are a lot of grade A+ fakes on ebay. Caveat emptor
That's not good news. Both transactions are through PayPal so does that provide any protection?
It should. Paypal is supposed to be very purchaser-friendly, from what I've heard. How do you plan to authenticate? Or do you?

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Post by daveydoo » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:27 am

Incendiary wrote:It should. Paypal is supposed to be very purchaser-friendly, from what I've heard. How do you plan to authenticate? Or do you?
I agree with independent authentication.

PayPal protection, imo, is a toothless joke. I've bought and sold a fair amount on eBay and/or using PayPal over the years (eBay selling is BH-compatible). You will feel initially like you're activating some official channel but it really escalates nowhere, imo. You're essentially told to reach out to the other party and resolve it on your own, etc., and if you don't hear back from them within two weeks, try again. There are various timelines, etc. My worst PayPal experience was a pretty high dollar-amount transaction outside of eBay -- online transaction with a third-party reseller. eBay used to be a (semi)honorable marketplace where there really seemed to be a buyer/seller contract, but now it's mostly trolls. You'll have little recourse with eBay itself but the bigger and more-established watch sellers should want to defend their feedback rating and offer a quick refund. In the last year or two, most of my auctions have ended with the buyer reneging or never paying, etc., or not fulfilling the clearly-stated restrictions (out of the country or zero feedback, etc.). People create many accounts and "load" their feedback with tiny purchases so they can switch as soon as they get any negative feedback. It's taken most of the fun out of selling, but I've still bought some things that were decent values.

That said, I think most BH could get a "good" or "bad" vibe from an eBay ad+seller combination and would probably be correct, so I'm not implying you made a bad move -- just that the PayPal safety net is not a reliable one.
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Post by corn18 » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:37 am

I do plan to authenticate at a local IWC authorized dealer.

The $7500 Top Gun watch is from a very reputable watch company in Boston. I checked their eBay feedback, and also feedback on the WatchUSeek forums. Stand up company so I'm hoping they don't want to tarnish that perfect rep with a fake.

The $3500 watch is from a private seller on WatchUSeek and I looked him up on eBay and LinkedIn. A police sgt, so I would expect a smooth transaction there as well.

I'll know this weekend.

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Post by Petrocelli » Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:26 pm

corn18 wrote:I can't tell the dang difference between a diamond and a CZ and yet my wife has a boxful of diamonds. Shrugs.

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Post by corn18 » Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:12 am

OP back again. I chose this one:

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It just fits what I want better than the other one.

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Post by Incendiary » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:05 am

Didn't you already buy both? Are you going to eBay one?

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Post by corn18 » Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:41 pm

I did buy both. Will put the other one on WatchUSeek. Bay charges too much.

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Post by corn18 » Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:31 am

OP Back again. Turns out the watch was dead on arrival. Sent it back for a full refund. Now I start the search over. Or just keep wearing my Casio G-Shock with pride.

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Post by stoptothink » Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:43 am

corn18 wrote:OP Back again. Turns out the watch was dead on arrival. Sent it back for a full refund. Now I start the search over. Or just keep wearing my Casio G-Shock with pride.

Corn
It's like buying a flashy high-maintenance sports car, except it generally performs worse and looks nearly identical to the budget model for a 2000%+ premium. To each their own; glad others can afford them and see some value.

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Post by Incendiary » Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:49 am

corn18 wrote:OP Back again. Turns out the watch was dead on arrival. Sent it back for a full refund. Now I start the search over. Or just keep wearing my Casio G-Shock with pride.

Corn
Was this the store watch or the WUS one?

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Post by corn18 » Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:56 am

Incendiary wrote:
corn18 wrote:OP Back again. Turns out the watch was dead on arrival. Sent it back for a full refund. Now I start the search over. Or just keep wearing my Casio G-Shock with pride.

Corn
Was this the store watch or the WUS one?
I bought it from the European Watch Company in Boston off of Ebay. They were great. I am out $0 total, just don't have a watch.

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Post by apex84 » Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:12 am

European Watch Company is reputable and has a nice storefront in Boston. The IWCs you've posted use a Valjoux 775x movement, which is widely used in watches at a much lower price. You might consider Sinn or Fortis.

If you want a luxury mechanical watch, go for it, but be sure it's a financially negligible purchase. As someone who's been there (Timezone, Purists, Watchuseek, etc.), I now mostly wear an Apple watch or a quartz Grand Seiko.

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Re: IWC Watch, any thoughts? [Wristwatch brand]

Post by corn18 » Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:41 am

apex84 wrote:European Watch Company is reputable and has a nice storefront in Boston. The IWCs you've posted use a Valjoux 775x movement, which is widely used in watches at a much lower price. You might consider Sinn or Fortis.

If you want a luxury mechanical watch, go for it, but be sure it's a financially negligible purchase. As someone who's been there (Timezone, Purists, Watchuseek, etc.), I now mostly wear an Apple watch or a quartz Grand Seiko.
I have changed my approach to a watch considerably since I started this thread. I was looking for a watch that met all my needs in one: functions, quality, dressy, not dressy, etc... Now that I have an affordable IWC chrono, I have stopped my quest for one watch to do it all. I have always been a G-shock wearer, but wanted something that fit my business environment better. The IWC does that (for $3500). And I have fallen in love with the quirks of mechanical watches. Here's my new approach:

1. G-shock for everyday leisure
2. IWC chrono for work (might upgrade the SS for the ceramic Top Gun if I find the right deal)
3. Dress watch (working on this one but it will be a simple, classic, elegant watch)

It has been an interesting journey but fun. So far, it hasn't cost a fortune.

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Post by corn18 » Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:00 pm

Here's the final collection (for now):

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All in for all 3 new was $7,700. I'm done for now (I hope).

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Post by absolutFinance » Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:59 pm

GO Senator is a nice pick - class. I have the PML and love it - I really should wear it more.
corn18 wrote:Here's the final collection (for now):

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All in for all 3 new was $7,700. I'm done for now (I hope).

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Post by apex84 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:43 pm

Congrats! That's a nice collection with an advanced (GPS) G-shock, a solid reliable chronograph that's easy to service, and a classic, understated dress watch. As I ended up with the pieces I have, I often looked at other pieces, but eventually decided that I should focus on enjoying the ones I had. Hopefully your collection is complete. I wouldn't get the ceramic version of the IWC, although cool, it is a material that can crack and you want to be able to enjoy your watches without worry. I don't baby mine and they show plenty of scratches and dings, but I don't mind.
corn18 wrote:Here's the final collection (for now):

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All in for all 3 new was $7,700. I'm done for now (I hope).

Corn

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Post by corn18 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:34 pm

I had to add one more watch to the collection: Casio GW-5000. It's the same watch I wore for most of my pilot career. It's the $300 Japan version and it's what I wear the most now.

I have fallen in love with the GO Senator. Understated luxury.

I think I'm done for now.

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Post by corn18 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:19 pm

I spoke too soon. Surfing the bay, I found this:

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Couldn't help myself. The Naval Aviator in me said I had to have it. Now I need to find one of these:

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Post by daveydoo » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:40 pm

corn18 wrote:I spoke too soon.
I worry about those hybrids -- are they even fixable once the electronics go? Not sure I can see my son handing this down to my grandson (or -daughter). All the quartz watches have a finite lifespan, yes? Does it defeat the purpose of having an elegant hand-made watch? But then again, I'm not a pilot!
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Post by Sandi_k » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:10 pm

If I were a lottery winner, I'd be buying the Glashutte Sixties Iconic in teal. Absolutely stunning watch:

http://www.glashuette-original.com/coll ... es-iconic/

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Post by corn18 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:27 am

daveydoo wrote:
corn18 wrote:I spoke too soon.
I worry about those hybrids -- are they even fixable once the electronics go? Not sure I can see my son handing this down to my grandson (or -daughter). All the quartz watches have a finite lifespan, yes? Does it defeat the purpose of having an elegant hand-made watch? But then again, I'm not a pilot!
Not sure. I'll have to research that. I bought it on impulse because of the Naval Aviation and pilot wings on the face.
Sandi_k wrote:If I were a lottery winner, I'd be buying the Glashutte Sixties Iconic in teal. Absolutely stunning watch:

http://www.glashuette-original.com/coll ... es-iconic/
That is a beautiful watch. I didn't think I would like my GO Senator, but I wore it for a week and fell in love. Understated simplicity.

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Post by Go Blue 99 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:48 am

Related good read from GQ about high end watches. "Yes there is a male engagement ring".

http://www.gq.com/story/male-engagement-ring-rolex

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Post by Sandi_k » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:48 am

Go Blue 99 wrote:Related good read from GQ about high end watches. "Yes there is a male engagement ring".

http://www.gq.com/story/male-engagement-ring-rolex
Ha! I bought my now-DH an engagement gun. :D

I did also buy him an Omega Skyfall watch, 20 years after the engagement. :D

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Post by corn18 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:43 am

If anyone is still following the saga, the collection is growing.

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Post by corn18 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:30 pm

I shrunk it considerably. Just lost interest in having a bunch of different watches.

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Post by PandaBear » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:34 pm

If I could have any watch it would be a Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Perpetual in White Gold. Those things are, in my opinion, the very last word in high end wrist watches.

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Post by corn18 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:50 pm

PandaBear wrote:If I could have any watch it would be a Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Perpetual in White Gold. Those things are, in my opinion, the very last word in high end wrist watches.
That is a very nice watch.

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Post by daveydoo » Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:09 pm

PandaBear wrote:If I could have any watch it would be a Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Perpetual in White Gold. Those things are, in my opinion, the very last word in high end wrist watches.
Ah, it's almost Spring and the watch thread is back! Waiting to see where this goes...!
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Post by corn18 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:24 pm

daveydoo wrote:
PandaBear wrote:If I could have any watch it would be a Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Perpetual in White Gold. Those things are, in my opinion, the very last word in high end wrist watches.
Ah, it's almost Spring and the watch thread is back! Waiting to see where this goes...!
Why do you say that? I have bought and sold a lot of watches in the past year and broke even. This worked out well as I found 4 I really like. If you buy used and know what to pay, there is little risk of losing money.

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Post by daveydoo » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:39 am

corn18 wrote: Why do you say that? I have bought and sold a lot of watches in the past year and broke even. This worked out well as I found 4 I really like. If you buy used and know what to pay, there is little risk of losing money.
Sorry -- I wasn't trying to be mean! I like these, vicariously. It's like the German vs. Japanese luxury car battles on BH.

BIL has re-sold many high-end watches for near their purchase price or even higher. Out of my league but fun to look. Enjoy!
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Post by mortfree » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:48 am

Interesting conversation as always corn18.

I've worn the same watch for going on 21 years (bought at age 19). It cost $150.

I've always had a fascination with watches but haven't felt the urge to replace this one. This thread does have me curious again but I wouldn't be in the high end range. Probably $500 or so tops.

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Post by Malinois000 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:31 am

I own an IWC Big Pilot and two Panerai's. I purchased them several years ago when I was going through a high end watch buying phase of my life. You can't really justify the cost of these watches as an investment in my view. However, if you can afford them and that is what you wish to purchase...go for it. I have no plans of any additional high end watch purchases; however, I do not regret the purchases I've made and wear them proudly every weekend.

Good luck and let us know what you decide.

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Post by Incendiary » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:05 am

My collection will be complete once I buy an IWC, Omega, and Rolex. Don't plan to get into Holy Trinity/Big 3 or Lange territory. Corn, I hope you will so I can live vicariously.

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Post by stemikger » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:09 am

Don't know anything about luxury watches but two years ago for my 50th birthday my wife bought me a Citizens Eco-Drive (it never needs a battery) and a Couch Wallet. She knew I would never buy either of those for myself. The watch cost $125 and the wallet cost $120. I love them both.

If you have the money and could easily afford and really want it, go for it. I personally am so frugal even if I had that kind of wealth would never buy something so extravagant but that's what makes the world go round. No judgment from me.

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Post by wassabi » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:11 pm

The Casio GW5000 is a classic. I have the slightly cheaper 5610 version, but have my eye on the 5000.

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Post by Flymore » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:05 pm

I enjoy watches, currently, own and enjoy a Breitling Superocean Chrono and lots of others. Love my Helson collection.

Some time ago my buddy gave me a 1977 June issue of Car and Driver magazine for an article about a car I once owned.
On page 30, there is an advertisement for a Tudor Chrono (made by Rolex) for the huge price of $395 that includes matching stainless steel bracelet. Used today Tudor Chrono watches sell for around $4350.
Same magazine page 100 is the Microma Chronograph, a digital quartz watch. Price then was $95, a similar Casio today is $7.99 with free shipping on Ebay. :shock:

Not saying you should buy a watch for an investment, buy it because you enjoy it and there will be a market if choose or need to sell it.

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stemikger wrote:Don't know anything about luxury watches but two years ago for my 50th birthday my wife bought me a Citizens Eco-Drive (it never needs a battery) ..
+1 for Citizen's Eco-drive. My father bought me one many years ago. Zero maintenance. Zero fiddling. Automatic DST adjust. Most reliable piece of technology I ever owned. Wore it until it didn't work any more (luminous dials faded and couldn't see them at night), then I replaced it with another Eco-drive, tungsten band which I wear 24/7. It's the perpetual calendar model with day of week and date, which is all I need.
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Post by a_posteriori » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:50 pm

Greetings,

I have to put my two-cents worth in on this "watch" topic.
I have been using an Astra IIIb sextant with a Cassins & Plath bubble
horizon to take sights of astronomical objects. I needed a time piece
that keeps a low and steady rate compared to the truth and is easily readable at night.

I found the Timex Expedition with the web NATO band and Indiglo feature fit the bill.
I now have two and an additional Weekender sweep second hand chronometer version.
All three have rates of about 200 milli-seconds per day and so far very stable rates
all of which is important to navigation using a sextant.

Very good performance for not many bucks! Of course, if I could get Harrisons' H-4
I would have gone for that--not in my price range, however...

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Post by VaR » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:35 am

PandaBear wrote:If I could have any watch it would be a Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Perpetual in White Gold. Those things are, in my opinion, the very last word in high end wrist watches.
Why not the version in stainless steel?

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Post by ClevrChico » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:06 am

corn18 wrote:I shrunk it considerably. Just lost interest in having a bunch of different watches.

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I love this "gone crazy" thread with the changing collection! I like how you still have a Casio.

I couldn't decide on a model and defaulted to a Casio F-91W.

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Post by desiderium » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:39 am

corn18 wrote:I shrunk it considerably. Just lost interest in having a bunch of different watches.

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Corn18,

Can you give a short intro on how and where you buy and sell your watches?

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Post by tim1999 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:15 am

corn18 wrote:OP back again. I chose this one:

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It just fits what I want better than the other one.

Corn
To each their own, but this watch just looks cheap to me.

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