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Re: Spend 'til the End

Post by bobcat2 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:25 pm

Hi Victoria,

I belong to Amazon Prime and pre-ordered Spend 'til the End with overnight shipping at an extra charge of $4. It arrived yesterday morning (Tues) about 8 AM. I finished it yesterday evening. I'm going to hold off on review topics until some other people have had a chance to read the book.

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Re: Spend 'til the End

Post by VictoriaF » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:12 pm

bobcat2 wrote:Hi Victoria,

I belong to Amazon Prime and pre-ordered Spend 'til the End with overnight shipping at an extra charge of $4. It arrived yesterday morning (Tues) about 8 AM. I finished it yesterday evening. I'm going to hold off on review topics until some other people have had a chance to read the book.

Best,
Bob K
Hi Bob,

When I came home from work today the Amazon package was here. So it seems that the $4 gave you a 1.5-day head start.

Interestingly, I also received a message from Amazon that I am getting a $0.74 refund for the second book in the pre-order, "Sway: The Irresistible Pull of Irrational Behavior."

Thank you for the reference,

Victoria

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Post by Ron » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:21 pm

"The Retirement Savings Time Bomb (and how to defuse it)"

by Ed Slott (rev 2007)

Interesting reading on how taxes can destroy your IRA "legecy" if not planned for properly.

- Ron

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Post by chaz » Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:08 am

"The Last Templar" by Raymond Khoury.
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What Book Are YOU Currently Reading? Part II

Post by Stephen » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:39 pm

The Scarlet Letter (1850)

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Post by TheEternalVortex » Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:37 pm

I just started (re)reading Neuromancer.

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Post by Jazzman » Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:39 pm

The Audacity of Hope by Barack Obama.

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Post by lippy » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:19 pm

An Irish Country Village by Patrick Taylor

http://www.amazon.com/Irish-Country-Vil ... 0765316242

…this is book 2…if you enjoyed James Herriot, then you would like this.

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Post by dave.d » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:10 pm

America Alone, by Mark Steyn

Soon to be banned in Canada, and that's not a joke.
Value-based allocation.

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Post by donocash » Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:22 pm

I just finished "But Didn't We Have Fun? - An Informal History of Baseball's Pioneer Era 1843-1870" by Peter Morris

Highly recommended for baseball lovers, or lovers of 19th century American history.

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Post by stratton » Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:35 pm

When Markets Collide: Investment Strategies for the Age of Global Economic Change by Mohamed El-Erian who recently returned to PIMCO from running the Harvard Endowment.

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What Book are YOU Currently Reading? Part II

Post by Stephen » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:59 pm

The Blithedale Romance (1852) The author is Hawthorne.

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Post by Sunny Sarkar » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:36 pm

Currently reading:
The End of Poverty by Jeffrey Sachs (loving it), and
Moral Politics by George Lakoff (not liking very much)

Teed up:
Audacity of Hope by Barack Obama

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Post by Index Fan » Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:24 pm

A Splendid Exchange: How Trade Shaped the World by William J. Bernstein- very good book about the history of trade through the ages. Mr. Bogle has a supportive blurb on the front cover :)

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Post by johnoutk » Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:04 pm

'Don't Start the Revolution Without Me' by Jesse Ventura

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Post by nick22 » Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:12 pm

Best book in past year has been Jason Zweig's "Your Money and Your Brain."

Just finished Fareed Zakaria's "The Post-American World" and now working on "Devil Take the Hindmost" by Edward Chancellor and "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greensapn. Still need to read "The Audacity of Hope" and waiting for the new upcoming books from Mr. Swedore and Thomas Friedman.
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Post by chaz » Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:50 pm

"Cross" by James Patterson.
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Post by gatorman » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:41 pm

Alex- I think you would enjoy The Middle Passage a seafaring novel available in full view on Google Books published c1925. I just finished it. Also thanks for the steer to Marryat, I found a number of his books on Google books and enjoyed them very much.
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Post by johnoutk » Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:56 pm

'The Catcher in the Rye' by J.D. Salinger

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Re: Books

Post by arthurdawg » Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:51 pm

nick22 wrote:B Just finished Fareed Zakaria's "The Post-American World" and now working on "Devil Take the Hindmost" by Edward Chancellor and "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greensapn. Still need to read "The Audacity of Hope" and waiting for the new upcoming books from Mr. Swedore and Thomas Friedman.
i read the age of turbulence last month, very interesting. i've just finished re-reading the 4 pillars (first finance book in a while!) and am planning to work on some of mr. ferri's books next when they arrive from amazon. otherwise i am reading "a crack in the edge of the world" by simon winchester, who writes very nicely.
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Currently Reading 'Spend Til The End

Post by mur44 » Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:02 pm

Some of statements in the book are contradictory to the
Boglehead Core concepts.

Our library ordered it and I am not learning that much
useful information as a retiree.

Regarding Social Security, the book recommends that
you wait until you turn 70 to take benefits and then
warns that you would be taking Governmental policy
risk.

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Re: Honda Pilot Owners Manual

Post by LearnFromMistakes » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:56 pm

PaPaw wrote:Honda Pilot Owner's Manual, I'm a car nut and visiting my daughter this week.

My daughter just bought one, based in part on the favorable comments by "catchup" on this forum as well as Consumer Reports and several other car review sources on the internet. The dealer had a really good deal going on the last of the 2008 models (2009 model is just hitting the showroom). Sold it to her for $6625 under MSRP. Now she has a few extra dollars to invest in something that will hopefully appreciate.
As a fellow car nut, reader of car owner manuals and prior owner of a 2000 V6 Accord (Sold to fund the purchase of an 06 Subaru STI), I would recommend calculating your future deals from the invoice cost of the vehicle rather than the MSRP. I've seen many unscrupulous dealers that add on $100's or even $1000's worth of "clear coats", "stain treatments", "rust protection coatings", pin striping, window tints, floor mats, etc... just to give the consumer a false sense of coming down off an already inflated price. If you've purchased a vehicle at or below the dealers invoice price then you've truely negotiated a GREAT deal, IMO. :)

Back to OP's topic... I'm currently reading "The Millionaire Mind" since I just finished reading "The Millionaire Next Door" not too long ago. Usually I read whatever the latest Star Wars novel that came out in paper back. :oops:

If anyone has read The Millionaire Next Door, the Millionaire Mind is a more in depth look at specific individuals that became millionaires and the variables that contributed to their successes. Some of America's richest people made horrible grades in school or never even attended college! Both of the books have been out a long time, 1996 and 2000 I believe, but I just learned about them this year after attending a financial class that recommended reading them.
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Post by shadowrings » Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:07 am

2 Suspense/Mystery stories by Julia Spencer Flemming:
A Fountain Filled with Blood
In The Bleak Midwinter
Nonfiction/Financial sort of
David Bach's Go Green, Live Rich: 50 Simple Ways to Save the Earth and Get Rich Trying
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Post by Judsen » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:56 am

I just read "The People of the lie" by M. Scott Peck and it had no effect on my investment philosophy or criteria, however it did tweak my insight into the dual nature of the herd (mob or market) mentality.
I enjoyed this thought provoking book.

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Post by Lesleyann » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:50 pm

Guests of the Ayatollah by Mark Bowden

I am learning so, so, so much from this book, and it is well-written, and moves pretty fast.

It is about the American hostages in Iran in the late 70s.

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Post by stratton » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:23 pm

The Sempster's Tale by Margaret Frazier. It's the 15th book in a medieval mystery series with a nun as a protagonist. The books actually stand alone so you don't necessarily need to read them in order.

Paul

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Post by eilros » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:21 pm

I just cracked All About Asset Allocation this morning.

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Post by BlueEars » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:32 pm

Finished Time and Chance by Sharon Penman. This is the 2nd book in a trilogy. Covers the years 1156 to 1171 in the reign of Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine and the murder of Thomas Becket. Wonderful historical fiction and a nice way to understand some of the early history between the French and English. If you want to read the trilogy start with When Christ and His Saints Slept. The third book will come out this fall.

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Post by lippy » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:57 am

Dilbert an the Way of the Weasel by Scott Adams

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Post by notPatience » Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:00 pm

Finished FATHERLAND by Harris yesterday

Reading ALIENIST (fic) and STUMBLING ON HAPPINESS (non-fic -- about how our brains work and frequently fool us. Interesting)

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Post by gkaplan » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:22 pm

I read Fatherland when it first came out a number of years ago. Good book,

This morning I started reading A Great Deliverance, because I like the PBS Mystery series that is based on the Inspector Lynley series by Elizabeth George. A friend of mine says that the books are better than the TV dramatizations, as is usually the case
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Post by shadowrings » Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:04 pm

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Re: Honda Pilot Owners Manual

Post by Valuethinker » Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:02 am

LearnFromMistakes wrote:
PaPaw wrote:Honda Pilot Owner's Manual, I'm a car nut and visiting my daughter this week.

My daughter just bought one, based in part on the favorable comments by "catchup" on this forum as well as Consumer Reports and several other car review sources on the internet. The dealer had a really good deal going on the last of the 2008 models (2009 model is just hitting the showroom). Sold it to her for $6625 under MSRP. Now she has a few extra dollars to invest in something that will hopefully appreciate.
As a fellow car nut, reader of car owner manuals and prior owner of a 2000 V6 Accord (Sold to fund the purchase of an 06 Subaru STI), I would recommend calculating your future deals from the invoice cost of the vehicle rather than the MSRP. I've seen many unscrupulous dealers that add on $100's or even $1000's worth of "clear coats", "stain treatments", "rust protection coatings", pin striping, window tints, floor mats, etc... just to give the consumer a false sense of coming down off an already inflated price. If you've purchased a vehicle at or below the dealers invoice price then you've truely negotiated a GREAT deal, IMO. :)

Back to OP's topic... I'm currently reading "The Millionaire Mind" since I just finished reading "The Millionaire Next Door" not too long ago. Usually I read whatever the latest Star Wars novel that came out in paper back. :oops:

If anyone has read The Millionaire Next Door, the Millionaire Mind is a more in depth look at specific individuals that became millionaires and the variables that contributed to their successes. Some of America's richest people made horrible grades in school or never even attended college! Both of the books have been out a long time, 1996 and 2000 I believe, but I just learned about them this year after attending a financial class that recommended reading them.
Hi

Just as a warning, the 2 books make a very elementary statistical error, and so are almost worthless. Nicolas Taleb tackles this in his first book.

The error is this. They only look at those who are rich.

What we don't know is whether there were other people, who started life doing the same things, and wound up not rich.

We also don't know if there is another set of people who did all the 'wrong' things and wound up rich anyways (say by inheritance).

To find out how to become rich, one would need to do a 'tracking study' which tracked people in their early 20s, until their late 60s, say, and seeing who became rich and who did not. The data in the books doesn't do this.

Rich people tend to own their own businesses. Well, quite. Because people who start businesses that fail, wind up going back into employment and are not rich (because their businesses didn't work out). So we've not learned anything there, either.

Doctors and lawyers tend to be rich. Well, again, quite. Doctors and lawyers tend to be paid a lot *even* if they live in low cost of living places. So being a town GP on $150k (not an uncommon scenario) is going to give you a lot more spending and investing power than being a specialist in a NY hospital at $250k.

You also get some really spurious and silly analyses: ie that rich people buy big American cars, which are cheaper per pound than smaller cars? Really? Do we think that SUV drivers now are more likely to become rich than Honda Civic drivers? Or perhaps (more likely) rich people just like buying bigger cars, and American manufacturers tend to make bigger cars with softer suspensions (older people, who tend to be richer, also like those cars).

So the generalisations the books make (other than the desirability of living within your means, and some ways of accomplishing that) are essentially worthless.

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Post by msh » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:57 am

The Drunkard's Walk by Leonard Mlodinow. It is a brief history and primer on the basic laws of probability. I particularly enjoyed the discussion of the Monte Hall problem.

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Post by chaz » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:17 pm

"Night Prey" by John Sandford.
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Post by johnoutk » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:59 am

'1984' by George Orwell

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Post by gkaplan » Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:17 pm

A Pale Horse by Charles Todd.
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Post by linenfort » Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:36 am

Generation Kill - reporter Evan Wright, embedded with Marines
in Iraq.

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Post by Valuethinker » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:45 am

linenfort wrote:Generation Kill - reporter Evan Wright, embedded with Marines
in Iraq.
The favourable comparison has been made to 'Jarhead' about the First Gulf War and to Michael Herr's 'Dispatches' the tour-de-force about Vietnam.

I'm not sure it is as good as Dispatches, but it is an extraordinary work, in terms of living up to the minute with a Marine unit at the very spearhead of the advance. The eternal grunt refrains (about the idiocy of senior officers, and their lack of appreciation of the situation on the ground, about the inadequacies of a supply chain that can't keep the grunts in 25mm chain gun lubricating oil, about the tactical misuse of a recon unit, about the tendency of the REMFs (Rear Area... whatevers) to siphon off the best supplies) are there, as is the sense of cameraderie of an elite unit.

It reads like something out of the Long Range Desert Group (now the SAS) in WWII.

I found I couldn't put it down: read it in one sitting.

I gather they are making a movie of it? I doubt it will work-- you can't recreate the atmosphere of the book in the movie.

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Post by Valuethinker » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:51 am

johnoutk wrote:'1984' by George Orwell
Herewith, perhaps, a piece of trivia you did not know.

The HQ of the University of London was a skyscraper called Senate House, the first 12 story office building built in London. Built in the 1930s, very Kremlinesque Art Nouveau style.

During WWII that was the Ministry of Information (aka Ministry of Propaganda or the Ministry of Truth). Employee: one George Orwell.

And inevitably Senate House has...

a Room 101. The Worst Room in the World.

http://www.dcs.bbk.ac.uk/about/senatehouse.html

http://www.urban75.org/photos/london/lon324.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Hou ... of_London)

What George Orwell had to say about the misuse of language and of war hysteria to manipulate political opinion is as true now, as it was then. He died prematurely, of tuberculosis, at age 48, having just published Animal Farm and 1984-- the world lost a very great talent and prophet.

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Post by lippy » Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:01 pm

The Dark River by John Twelve Hawks

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Post by notPatience » Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:33 pm

Just finished:

Stumbling to Happiness (interesting)
The Millionaire Next Door (not)

Reading:
The Sociopath Next Door.

Hmmm, what does it say that the Sociopath is more interesting Next Door than the Millionaire?

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Post by eilros » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:31 pm

Potty Train Your Child in Just One Day by Teri Crane

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Post by mattduke » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:47 pm

Bastiat: The Law

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Post by chaz » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:13 am

"The Camel Club" by David Baldacci.
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Post by stratton » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:29 am

Predicting the Markets of Tomorrow by James P. O'Shaughnessy.

The Apostates Tale by Margaret Frazier.

Asset Allocation 3d ed. by Roger Gibson.

Paul

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Post by Valuethinker » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:37 am

stratton wrote:Predicting the Markets of Tomorrow by James P. O'Shaughnessy.

The Apostates Tale by Margaret Frazier.

Asset Allocation 3d ed. by Roger Gibson.

Paul
I got caught with O'Shaughnessy.

2 books with different titles (one paperback) that are, in fact, the same book.

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Post by Unormal » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:31 am

http://www.goodreads.com

This is a pretty neat book recommendation site my friends and I use. I'm unormal at gmail.com on here if anyone wants to try it out and add me as a friend.

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Post by stratton » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:32 pm

Valuethinker wrote:
stratton wrote:Predicting the Markets of Tomorrow by James P. O'Shaughnessy.

The Apostates Tale by Margaret Frazier.

Asset Allocation 3d ed. by Roger Gibson.

Paul
I got caught with O'Shaughnessy.

2 books with different titles (one paperback) that are, in fact, the same book.
I've seen the paperback. Thanks for the warning.

I liked the O'Shaughnessy book from the library enough I picked up a used copy. I like the 75 and 200 year trend histories of value and small stocks.

I don't want his What Worked on Wall Street. Too many charts unless I get into really breaking it down. Predicting the Markets of Tomorrow has enough detail for me and fixes a couple of minor things on charting he says were wrong in previous books.

Paul

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