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Re: GoDaddy - Any better options for website hosting?

Post by VictoriaF » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:12 pm

crystalbank wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:07 pm
If you just want static file hosting -
https://neocities.org

It's inspired by the erstwhile Geocities website and is completely free to try out. If you want custom domains you have to be a supporting member ($5/month). Even the free sites don't have any ads and the entire company is supported by paid members and donations.
Thank you for your suggestion, crystalbank,

As I understand it, a static site would preclude blogging, right? One of my requirements is to maintain an archive of former blogposts, classified by topic and carrying keyword tags.

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Re: GoDaddy - Any better options for website hosting?

Post by VictoriaF » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:15 pm

pondering wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:08 pm
What security do you need for something that is public information anyway?
I am concerned about ransomware and would like to protect my URL from being used in botnets or spam. There could be other malware ranging from common viruses to some blogging-specific threats.

Another issue that came up is using SSL. In general, a site that does not serve as e-commerce and does not collect personal information does not need SSL. However, recently Google has changed its Search Engine Optimization (SEO) to favor HTTPS over HTTP and having SSL became advantageous. I also read that migrating from HTTP to HTTPS is nontrivial and would prefer to start with HTTPS.

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Re: GoDaddy - Any better options for website hosting?

Post by pondering » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:43 pm

You should be much more concerned with backup. You should know how to mirror your site locally, and restore it to another web host if needed.

Restoring backups periodically is an important part of the backup process.
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Re: GoDaddy - Any better options for website hosting?

Post by pondering » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:45 pm

Unless you want to make a business out of your web site, your traffic isn't likely to come much from search. Engaging in the community of people who discuss your ideas online will be much more important.
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Re: GoDaddy - Any better options for website hosting?

Post by crystalbank » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:48 pm

VictoriaF wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:12 pm
crystalbank wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:07 pm
If you just want static file hosting -
https://neocities.org

It's inspired by the erstwhile Geocities website and is completely free to try out. If you want custom domains you have to be a supporting member ($5/month). Even the free sites don't have any ads and the entire company is supported by paid members and donations.
Thank you for your suggestion, crystalbank,

As I understand it, a static site would preclude blogging, right? One of my requirements is to maintain an archive of former blogposts, classified by topic and carrying keyword tags.

Victoria
They do have many templates built-in for blogging and support comments & RSS feeds. You can't run Wordpress or equivalent blogging software though. Alternatively, you can use a static site generator like Jekyll (which generates a bunch of static html files every time you publish a new post along with an updated RSS feed) and just publish those files to Neocities. They have guides to do that, but beware this can get very technical.

But, I'm fairly optimistic the built-in templates for blogging in Neocities would suffice for any basic website/blog. You can signup for a free trial to check it out yourself.

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Re: GoDaddy - Any better options for website hosting?

Post by VictoriaF » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:53 pm

pondering wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:43 pm
You should be much more concerned with backup. You should know how to mirror your site locally, and restore it to another web host if needed.

Restoring backups periodically is an important part of the backup process.
Excellent point. I noticed that backup frequencies and restoration processes vary from company to company but have not included it in my evaluation yet.
pondering wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:45 pm
Unless you want to make a business out of your web site, your traffic isn't likely to come much from search. Engaging in the community of people who discuss your ideas online will be much more important.
I definitely want to engage people who would provide relevant contributions. But at this time I don't know how many people are interested in Behavioral Economics discussions, how many of these people will find my blog, and how many of them will consider the blog useful. Another issue is separating useful comments from spam. The Bogleheads moderators are doing a tremendous job and I will have to do something like that too.

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Re: GoDaddy - Any better options for website hosting?

Post by jbuzolich » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:53 pm

I've been toying with the idea of consulting in any spare time I have. A couple tasks I enjoy doing anyway that doing feel like work to me can save small organizations a chunk of money. I looked mostly at the website builders and ended up picking Wix for the builder and just did their hosting. Really like the look of the site I built and I can change it to something new at any time if I want. Cost a few hundred for the year but I didn't think that was bad for a hobby. The domain itself and email I setup through Google. No clients yet but that's all on me not spending time to promote or market. The basic front door website and professional looking email are taken care of. I can't believe how many people we pay money too run their email and business through free accounts.

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Post by Lynette » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:56 pm

pondering wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:08 pm
What security do you need for something that is public information anyway?
If someone is going to comment, I assume that he/she would have to create an account on the website and at a minimum provide an email address. The account would only be activate once it was verified via that email address. I would not provide my email address to a website if I thought their security was weak.

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Re: GoDaddy - Any better options for website hosting?

Post by VictoriaF » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:59 pm

crystalbank wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:48 pm
VictoriaF wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:12 pm
crystalbank wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:07 pm
If you just want static file hosting -
https://neocities.org

It's inspired by the erstwhile Geocities website and is completely free to try out. If you want custom domains you have to be a supporting member ($5/month). Even the free sites don't have any ads and the entire company is supported by paid members and donations.
Thank you for your suggestion, crystalbank,

As I understand it, a static site would preclude blogging, right? One of my requirements is to maintain an archive of former blogposts, classified by topic and carrying keyword tags.

Victoria
They do have many templates built-in for blogging and support comments & RSS feeds. You can't run Wordpress or equivalent blogging software though. Alternatively, you can use a static site generator like Jekyll (which generates a bunch of static html files every time you publish a new post along with an updated RSS feed) and just publish those files to Neocities. They have guides to do that, but beware this can get very technical.

But, I'm fairly optimistic the built-in templates for blogging in Neocities would suffice for any basic website/blog. You can signup for a free trial to check it out yourself.
Thank you for following up, crystalbank,

After giving it a lot of thought, I decided that I want to use WordPress. If I did not, I would use Google's Blogger, as Lynnette has suggested to me. My reason for favoring WordPress is that it makes me provider independent. I've seen some comments that Google has not been supporting Blogger for a while (apart from some superficial changes) and may eventually discontinue it. If that happens, moving from Blogger to another platform would be a major effort. The same could be true for Geocities. By contrast, WordPress is an open-source software that is being actively developed and maintained. Hosting providers will come and go, but WP will be migratable from host to host.

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Re: GoDaddy - Any better options for website hosting?

Post by pondering » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:06 pm

jbuzolich wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:53 pm
...The domain itself and email I setup through Google.
How long have you used this email setup?
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Re: GoDaddy - Any better options for website hosting?

Post by crystalbank » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:08 pm

VictoriaF wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:59 pm
crystalbank wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:48 pm
VictoriaF wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:12 pm
crystalbank wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:07 pm
If you just want static file hosting -
https://neocities.org

It's inspired by the erstwhile Geocities website and is completely free to try out. If you want custom domains you have to be a supporting member ($5/month). Even the free sites don't have any ads and the entire company is supported by paid members and donations.
Thank you for your suggestion, crystalbank,

As I understand it, a static site would preclude blogging, right? One of my requirements is to maintain an archive of former blogposts, classified by topic and carrying keyword tags.

Victoria
They do have many templates built-in for blogging and support comments & RSS feeds. You can't run Wordpress or equivalent blogging software though. Alternatively, you can use a static site generator like Jekyll (which generates a bunch of static html files every time you publish a new post along with an updated RSS feed) and just publish those files to Neocities. They have guides to do that, but beware this can get very technical.

But, I'm fairly optimistic the built-in templates for blogging in Neocities would suffice for any basic website/blog. You can signup for a free trial to check it out yourself.
Thank you for following up, crystalbank,

After giving it a lot of thought, I decided that I want to use WordPress. If I did not, I would use Google's Blogger, as Lynnette has suggested to me. My reason for favoring WordPress is that it makes me provider independent. I've seen some comments that Google has not been supporting Blogger for a while (apart from some superficial changes) and may eventually discontinue it. If that happens, moving from Blogger to another platform would be a major effort. The same could be true for Geocities. By contrast, WordPress is an open-source software that is being actively developed and maintained. Hosting providers will come and go, but WP will be migratable from host to host.

Victoria
Neocities itself is opensource (https://github.com/neocities) and all it stores is really static HTML files so you can always move to a different host. Wordpress is also a great choice and there is a tremendous community around it and almost every shared/VPS hosting company supports it. I personally had great experiences with NearlyFreeSpeech and their pricing model is very good for small websites.

I would avoid Blogger. Good Luck!

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Post by technovelist » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:09 pm

One more tremendously vital point: under no circumstances should you let anyone else other than yourself be registered as the owner of your domain.

PM me if you want to know why.
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Post by TravelforFun » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:14 pm

I post my travel blog on a site hosted by Webstarts. I find their templates easy to use and I pay $49 per year. My blog contains over 100 webpages with no ads. I'm happy with their service but the only problem is I don't know how easy it would be if I wanted to transfer my website to another host.

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Post by tetractys » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:15 pm

I use GoDaddy for domain support; but have my files served at 0 cost somewhere else. I also have my personal information locked at GoDaddy, which costs a few dollars extra, but avoids scads of junk mail, and guards me from trolling harassments. My view is that the slightly higher expense GoDaddy charges is worth it because they are relatively stable and will be around a long time. They also have good live support. -- Tet

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Re: GoDaddy - Any better options for website hosting?

Post by VictoriaF » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:19 pm

crystalbank wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:08 pm
I personally had great experiences with NearlyFreeSpeech and their pricing model is very good for small websites.
I checked out NearlyFreeSpeech. The pricing is fantastic and their model would fit me in the sense that I don't need more than one URL and don't plan to make money off the blog. However, this platform is intended for far more advanced users than me:
NearlyFreeSpeech wrote:NearlyFreeSpeech.NET is a do-it-yourself service, designed to allow experienced webmasters and people who are strongly self-motivated to set up low-cost hosting by only paying for services they actually use.
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Post by tibbitts » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:41 pm

pondering wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:08 pm
What security do you need for something that is public information anyway?
Victoria started out asking about Wordpress, and what you need security for is to prevent your site from being exploited, and your server resources used to attack other sites on the internet, perhaps through denial of service attacks. Or, your site could be used to host an almost-clone of another website (one of the sites I'm very familiar with was turned into a remarkable clone of a prominent national bank website, just waiting for "customers" to log on with their actual credentials.) Other wordpress sites have been used to host advertising for various illegal activities - would you really want pondering.com to become a renowned porn site? Well, it probably would drive traffic to your site, I guess. Just by your site existing, it will be attacked, probably thousands of times every day, probing for security weaknesses.

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Post by Lynette » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:58 pm

I agree that Google's Blogger isn't a great candidate to be used as it appears to be no longer actively supported by Google. However, if you want to own the data, you can simply export it and delete your websites. I have used Google's Blogger for posting simple travelogues with photos. I have turned off all comments and tried not to publicize its existence. I am certain that I could use it for comments as some of the websites I browse do. With some effort I can customize it entirely to my liking, change the domain and use ads. Its been great as it is free and Google takes care of the security. However, I agree that Google may drop it in the future.

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Post by pondering » Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:41 pm

tibbitts wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:41 pm
Victoria started out asking about Wordpress, and what you need security for is to prevent your site from being exploited, and your server resources used to attack other sites on the internet, perhaps through denial of service attacks. Or, your site could be used to host an almost-clone of another website (one of the sites I'm very familiar with was turned into a remarkable clone of a prominent national bank website, just waiting for "customers" to log on with their actual credentials.) Other wordpress sites have been used to host advertising for various illegal activities - would you really want pondering.com to become a renowned porn site? Well, it probably would drive traffic to your site, I guess. Just by your site existing, it will be attacked, probably thousands of times every day, probing for security weaknesses.
those attacks are on the hosts OS, not the apps someone runs on top of them. I think so actual data would be instructive. I've been watching things online for over 25 years, and I think the risks you are worried about are not the ones that actually bite people.
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Post by 22twain » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:55 am

tibbitts wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:41 pm
Just by your site existing, it will be attacked, probably thousands of times every day, probing for security weaknesses.
My site is basically static HTML and CSS, plus a bit of PHP code to insert "boilerplate" text and meta tags on each page. No user interaction via forms or other input. No databases.

Every day, my server log file collects dozens of attempts to access my non-existent WordPress login page or administration panel, or scripts that access WordPress databases. There's other stuff that I think is looking for Joomla, another common technology for dynamic e-commerce sites.

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Re: GoDaddy - Any better options for website hosting?

Post by jbuzolich » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:14 am

pondering wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:06 pm
jbuzolich wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:53 pm
...The domain itself and email I setup through Google.
How long have you used this email setup?
About four months is all

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