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lazyday
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Chromebox

Post by lazyday » Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:11 pm

A Chromebox is like a Chromebook but generally smaller and with no keyboard or screen.

Some reasons to use a Chromebox/book:
Chromebox can also be used for videoconferencing, digital signage, kiosks, and with Linux.
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Asus Chromebox $167. Review Further discounts may be available.

HP $150 currently.
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Acer chromebox will likely be similar to the Asus and HP.

Dell will offer Chromebox for Meetings, and perhaps other Chromeboxes.

Samsung: Maybe new Chromebox/es. Can't find press release or on website.

Lenovo: so far just speculation.

All In One with 22" IPS monitor attached:
LG Chromebase $330 U.S.
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Forums for Chrome OS, Chromebooks, Chromebox:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/ ... -chrome-os
http://www.chromebookforum.com/forum/
http://www.chromeosforums.net/forum/forum.php
http://www.thechromebookforum.com/forum/forum.php

Forums for Chrome:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/ ... uss-chrome
http://chromespot.com/forum/google-chrome-discussion/
http://www.chromeplugins.org/google/google-chrome/

Bogleheads - Chrome OS device as main computer
Bogleheads - Choosing a Chromebook
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Re: Where's the new Chromebox?

Post by pochax » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:34 am

No word as far as i know, but toshiba just announced their chromebook which was mentioned at the same announcement as the Asus chromebox so hopefully it won't be too long.

I doubt it will sell for <$150 since the current series 3 samsung chromebox is $329 with a Celeron CPU.

if you are a DIYer, you should consider getting an Intel NUC (Core i3 or i5 Haswell CPU), buying the wifi card, SSD, RAM, and installing Linux OS (Ubuntu or Mint) since security is also quite good (Chrome OS is based on Linux) and it is free. if you are not a DIYer, you should just wait.

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Re: Where's the new Chromebox?

Post by lazyday » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:16 pm

pochax wrote:, but toshiba just announced their chromebook which was mentioned at the same announcement as the Asus chromebox

Thanks, didn't know that.

series 3 samsung chromebox is $329 with a Celeron CPU.

I had the impression that used a better CPU than Chromebooks of the same era. I don't think it's sold directly new anymore by places like Amazon, and current prices may be inflated because of low supply of chromeboxes.
A low end Haswell chromebook can be had for $200. A low end Haswell chromebox should be fine, and I'd think, could be cheaper with no screen, keyboard, or complicated housing. An I3 chromebox might have more power than needed, but might (not sure) offer 4K which I expect to use before too many years from now.

consider getting an Intel NUC .... installing Linux OS

I've considered this with a larger and maybe slower netbox than the NUC. But prefer a chromebox for :
- security, seems much better than even most Linux (see OP link) though I'm no expert. Not sure about hardened distributions. Maybe too much work.
- web speed per $: chromebook/box built from nearly ground up for chrome, reportedly now very effficient for browsing

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Re: Where's the new Chromebox?

Post by lazyday » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:25 pm

You might be able to buy a foxbox someday soon: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-576167 ... ngs-to-us/
Firefox OS already on a phone, I think essentially just the web, like Chrome OS.
Price announced for Paper and Rock (about $100) but looks like can't order one yet.

I'll wait for the new Chromebox. For security and speed.

EDIT: It seems Firefox OS may be a replacement for Android, not Chrome OS.
I've read that google's strategy for Android is mostly small screen, and Chrome OS is larger screen. Firefox OS seems intended for small screen.
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/os/#mission
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_OS

Other news: Hack the Chromebook, make $150,000: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/ ... ng_contest
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Re: Where's the new Chromebox?

Post by TimeRunner » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:44 am

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Re: Where's the new Chromebox?

Post by lazyday » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:34 am

:D :D

Thanks for posting.

According to http://www.anandtech.com/show/7735/asus ... ing-at-179 the Celeron and i3 versions are fanless! :happy

i3 supports 4k video to two displays according to tomsguide.
"Pricing ... will be available closer to March." http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2430288,00.asp

$179 is a little higher than I hoped with no 4k, but for me totally worth it for a silent little Haswell box.

EDIT: Asus page
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Re: Where's the new Chromebox?

Post by pochax » Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:07 pm

nice...although i don't quite understand the point of a Core i7 chromebox. feels like putting a Corvette engine inside a Chevy Aveo body.

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Re: Where's the new Chromebox?

Post by lazyday » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:21 pm

Maybe for the market that wants to put a different OS on it? Some already do with Chromebooks:
You can install another OS but every start there is a safety shield that blocks the boot for 30 seconds unless you press ctrl-D

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Re: Where's the new Chromebox?

Post by TimeRunner » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:58 pm

Looks like the i7 chip version is to support the new Videoconferencing system Google announced today. Many articles about it, here's one: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/06 ... _meetings/

Looks like Polycomm might have some competition....
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Re: Where's the new Chromebox?

Post by lazyday » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:03 am

Reports say that asus won't offer the i7 in US, but HP might.

http://techland.time.com/2014/02/06/chr ... computers/
Google says HP and Dell are also building their own Chromeboxes. Dell isn’t offering any details yet, but a teaser page from HP suggests that it’ll have low-end and Core i7 models available, just like Asus.

I didn't notice any indication on HP's page it will offer without i7, but makes sense to do so.

You can sign up to be notified by HP: http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaig ... rview.html or the biz page linked by Time.
"Available Spring 2014 in the U.S."

Chromebox for meetings:
From Dell press release mid-Feb 2014
"Dell Chromebox for meetings will be available in the coming months. Stay tuned for further updates."
Not sure if will also offer Celeron/i3/etc.

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Re: Chromebox

Post by lazyday » Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:20 am

Rewrote and organized links in OP; added link on fanless comment from Anand.

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Re: Where's the new Chromebox?

Post by lazyday » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:56 pm

pochax wrote:if you are a DIYer, you should consider getting an Intel NUC (Core i3 or i5 Haswell CPU), buying the wifi card, SSD, RAM, and installing Linux OS (Ubuntu or Mint) since security is also quite good (Chrome OS is based on Linux) and it is free.

A $40 option for Linux users, fast enough for some web use but slower than a Chromebox:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
http://www.raspbian.org/

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Re: Chromebox

Post by lazyday » Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:02 am

Can now preorder Asus for Mar 14 delivery. See updated top post in this thread.

Asus told Liliputing and Anand (twice) it would be fanless, but news has changed:
Last month Asus told us these systems would be fanless, but the company made a last-minute change and included a fan due to lack of ambient temperature control. I’m told the fan won’t need to operate very often, and it will reportedly run quietly and shut off quickly when it does power up. Hopefully I’ll get a chance to test that out for myself soon.

Big downer for me. The ports on the Asus are nice, but I don't see much point in this $179 box vs a $200 Chromebook with mostly the same specs. I am using laptops as desktops now. Chromebook as desktop gives option of repurposing in future.

EDIT: The popular Acer C720 has HDMI video and USB 3.0. For wired ethernet, can use an adapter. Here's 3 for about $10 to $20 including shipping from monoprice.com all said to work with a Chromebook: items 6150, 9466, or 5345.

EDIT: According to comments around the net, compared to a Chromebook:
    Upgradeable memory, SSD, etc
    Smaller
    Power button more available than on closed laptop
    VESA mountable
    More ports: displayport, HDMI, gigabit ethernet, SDcard, 4x USB 3.0
    Supports two largescreen monitors

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Re: Chromebox

Post by lazyday » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:10 am

Asus Chromebox is back in stock.

Click "Total Price" to sort for your location.
https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... +chromebox

I haven't noticed any news on other Chromeboxes but there's rumors of a C200 Chromebook in May for $250 with a newer chip that uses much lower power and is somewhat slower. http://liliputing.com/2014/04/asus-249- ... aunch.html

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Re: Chromebox

Post by hicabob » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:28 am

I picked up the ASUS $179 unit few weeks ago with a 24" hdmi monitor. It's very nice indeed - small, fast boot, very low power. I intend to use it for banking/brokerages/etc due to the terrible Windows security situation.

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Re: Chromebox

Post by lazyday » Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:57 am

Prices are down.

The HP chromebox is currently $150 with free shipping at amazon.

After price discount, rebate, promotional gift card, and visa payments discount, the Asus chromebox is about $123 at newegg.

Chromebook prices are down too. Refurbished models of different brands are about $130 to $150. The Acer C720 is $180 new at Amazon. The new model Asus C200 is $200, or $180 after visa payment discount, at newegg. That model is said to have better build quality and keyboard than the C720. It is also fanless but a little slower than Haswell models.

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Re: Chromebox

Post by MossySF » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:42 am

I just picked up the Acer C720P (touchscreen model) for $280.

I immediately installed Crouton + Unbuntu figuring I would need those extra tools. But after a week of using it for work while on travel, I have yet to start it up other than to demo to others.

At this point, the touch screen feature is not worth an extra $100 more than the C720 but that will change with Android app support (demo'd at last Google I/O).

I thought about getting a regular laptop and installing Linux -- but with secure boot noawadays, some manufacturers restrict them to only booting up the Windows OS that came with the machine.

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Re: Chromebox

Post by levendis » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:59 am

I have a Celeron Chromebox that I wiped the operating system off of and replaced it with OpenELEC and XBMC. Easy enough to do and it makes a fantastic home media center.

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Re: Chromebox

Post by Toons » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:20 am

Chromebox working superbly for our needs,,Accessing Google data,streaming,instant on,no reboots,no errors,no software,no antivirus to think about.Price is right. :happy :happy

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Re: Chromebox

Post by pochax » Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:19 pm

speaking of chrome, Acer may have the chromebook to get this year:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/11/acer-chromebook-13/

Tegra K1 ARM-based quadcore CPU/GPU, up to 4GB RAM, up to 32GB SSD (with SD card reader), USB 3.0, WiFi-ac, and 13" 1080p display and 11-hour battery life all for $379 for the high-end model:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MHX6TIA/ref ... NWDY1FM3ZL

(even the 2GB RAM/16GB SSD with 1080p display is only $299)

i'm interested to see the reviews - yes, it's Chrome OS, so it's not for everyone, but for those who have already bought into the paradigm, this appears to be the best specs for the price yet.

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