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Are there scammers out there who pray on people who have lst a relative lately? Got a call indicating my dad was behind in paying maintenance on his timeshare. Dad has dementia for 10 years, mom was constantly with him and asked if he wanted a timeshare he would have said “what is a timeshare?”
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Absolutely. It's just a name on a mailing list. My Mom is still getting mail addressed to her deceased husband (my Dad) who passed away several years ago. The funny part is that she moved and is getting mail addressed to my Dad at her new address.
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Mentioned that I'd had a call from a scammer who said I'd been over-charged and they wanted to give back the money. Told them to keep the money... which confused them. I hung up and thought nothing more about it. But, have since learned more about what I missed by not playing their game. Most interesting.


See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKW58M ... =MarkRober

YouTuber explains how scam works to con victims out of $20K, each. And how he worked with law enforcement to catch some of them.

Scam methodology. Scammer tells victim they were overcharged, allows victim to enter repayment information, then makes victim believe they entered a repayment amount that was too much, and pressures victim to mail immediate cash repayment.

--Assume scammer says victim was overcharged $200 and payment will be withdrawn from bank in a few days.
--Asks victim to grant access to victim's PC so he can "see" that money was refunded.
--With access granted, scammer asks victim to bring up bank account to see if $200 charge has been withdrawn from bank. "Not yet, good. I will allow you to enter your refund information to keep your bank account safe... no one will see your information but you."
--"For your security", asks victim to input repayment information into scammer's fake refund form.
--Victim inputs $200 into fake refund form---it's a simple text file, does absolutely nothing, but distracts victim and wastes time. (Scammer needs the time for next step.)
--While victim is busy with do-nothing refund form, scammer is busy editing a copy of victim's account display, to show victim mistakenly entered a $20,000 refund (not a $200 refund).
--After victim is done and has submitted the fake refund form, scammer then shows victim the edited copy of bank account display with a fake $20K deposit and new account balance. (It's not real bank account screen; it's the copy the scammer edited to show a fake deposit transaction and new balance.)
--Scammer pretends to be shocked! "What did you do? You took $20K, not $200! I'll lose my job! My family will lose our house! My children will starve! You must repay the money immediately. The refund form that you submitted only sends money to you, it does not go the other way to protect your account! You must mail $19,800 in cash to me so I will not lose my job."
--And good-hearted victims do.

YouTuber says this scam is worth $20B/yr. :shock:

Glad I told them to keep the money.
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I just got a bunch of the latest variant of the erroneous order scam. This time, it's virus protection software. You're supposed to call them to dispute the order.
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Also, I just received the latest version of the Nigerian Prince scam.
Email Subject: From Mr. Fitzpatrick D. Moore

Fitzpatrick D. Moore.
#5 Catherine Pa,
Westminster,
London SW1E 6DY,
United Kingdom (UK).
--------@-----.---

Dear Beloved,

I am Mr.Fitzpatrick D. Moore from Ireland, a contractor in both USA,Canada,Norway and London, lived in Norway for 26years and currently residing in London United Kingdom (UK),. I am 75 years old. I was browsing and I saw your e-mail So I decided to write you if your e-mail is still active. Please accept my apology for this unsolicited contact, I have been diagnosed with Lung cancer. It has defiled all forms of medical treatment, and right now I have only about a few months to live. I am very rich, but was never generous; I have given most of my assets to my immediate family members.

My health condition has gotten worse and just two weeks ago my doctor informed me that my condition has reach a critical stage, and that I have just 3 months left. This confirmation is from my doctor and still a devastating news; it is hard to know that you have just a little time left to live here. After the doctor’s medical pronunciation that I have just few months to live, I decided to divide my wealth to contribute to your country where as a contractor made lots of money. I want to assist you with the funds to do great charity works in your country, this is my last wish. I selected you after searching few websites; I prayed and God led me to you.

I have decided to give alms to charity organizations. I cannot do this myself anymore because of my health. I once asked members of my family to give some money to charity organizations, they refused and kept the money. I have a huge cash deposit of (US$5.6M) Five Million six hundred thousand united states dollars with a Diplomatic Finance Management Company (DFMC) in United State of America (USA). I will want you to help me collect this deposit and dispatch it to charity organizations. You will take out 10% of these funds for your assistance to help me disburse this fund to charities and 90% for the charity project.

Do let me know if you will be able to handle this fund and use it for the said purpose so that I will inform the Diplomatic Finance Management Company (DFMC) in United State of America (USA) on my decision. Reply to me using (--------@-----.---). Please reply to my mail for more details on how to claim this Gift.

I will like you to acknowledge the receipt of this e-mail as soon as possible and treats with absolute confidentiality and sincerity.

Peace of the Lord be with you and family.

Thank you.

Best Regards,
Fitzpatrick D. Moore
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For years every few months we got Emails from a scammer who lists Key-Bank. That Email states that Key Bank has problems with my account and they need to talk about that. But since we do not have Key-Bank accounts, I deleted that Email. But recently I wrote the person back, that we do not have Key Bank accounts.

So now we got another Email in layout similar to the Key Bank Email. (they did not know how to spell), this time from "Welmart" <sendername@charter.net> stating Fraud Protection Services : Dear Walamrt Customer, etc. my card (did not show which credit card) was used for 2 Walmart E-Gifts, and they Declined.
They asked : Do you recognize each transaction listed above? and asked to press YES or NO.
We expect to get these scam Emails continuously, but will delete them.
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Barsoom wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:21 am Also, I just received the latest version of the Nigerian Prince scam.
I got a good, sensible chuckle out of that letter starting with "Dear Beloved" and the phrase "defiled all forms of medical treatment" (I'm sure they meant defied, but defiled adds just the perfect bit of additional humor).

My latest issue is with the legal businesses with scammy business practices, namely the door-to-door "independent" gas contractors are out in force this week. They've knocked on my door three times so far this week. How they are still allowed to legally operate in California with their business model (using various scammy techniques to switch your gas account over to their overpriced contract) is beyond me.
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Very stressful evening - my mom called to say she had a very busy day. Someone called her from America Express ( a very helpful, nice fellow) who said that someone from China has hacked her AE account and her bank account. This helpful fellow told her to protect her money by buying $6,000 in gift cards to protect her AE account and $4,000 in gift cards to protect her bank account. She needed to do this within the next three hours. He remained on her cell phone while she bought the gift cards. She read the scratch off numbers from the purchased gift cards in the parking lot of the stores. $10,000 gone. All the gift cards now have zero balances. I checked. My father just died in Feb 2021. I hope there is a special place reserved in H$@## for these scammers.
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I'm so sorry, 66Sally. You are right, there is a special place in Hell for them.

Maybe your mom would let you block calls from callers not in her address book? That's one way to avoid a lot of fraud.
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We tell our parents to immediately call one of us kids whenever money is involved that's over $500.
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pretending to be 'from Microsoft'

of course they wanted to be paid with Gift Cards... out $14,000

https://jocoreport.com/77-year-old-woma ... -of-14000/

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66Sally wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 9:28 pm Very stressful evening - my mom called to say she had a very busy day. Someone called her from America Express ( a very helpful, nice fellow) who said that someone from China has hacked her AE account and her bank account. This helpful fellow told her to protect her money by buying $6,000 in gift cards to protect her AE account and $4,000 in gift cards to protect her bank account. She needed to do this within the next three hours. He remained on her cell phone while she bought the gift cards. She read the scratch off numbers from the purchased gift cards in the parking lot of the stores. $10,000 gone. All the gift cards now have zero balances. I checked. My father just died in Feb 2021. I hope there is a special place reserved in H$@## for these scammers.
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66Sally wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 9:28 pm Very stressful evening - my mom called to say she had a very busy day. Someone called her from America Express ( a very helpful, nice fellow) who said that someone from China has hacked her AE account and her bank account. This helpful fellow told her to protect her money by buying $6,000 in gift cards to protect her AE account and $4,000 in gift cards to protect her bank account. She needed to do this within the next three hours. He remained on her cell phone while she bought the gift cards. She read the scratch off numbers from the purchased gift cards in the parking lot of the stores. $10,000 gone. All the gift cards now have zero balances. I checked. My father just died in Feb 2021. I hope there is a special place reserved in H$@## for these scammers.
Very sad.

This is why as parents age the children should make an attempt at some point to get the parents to agree to let them monitor financial transactions. Very delicate subject, and met with resistance and indignation (especially on this forum), but this is an example of where if the child got alerts for bank account and/or credit card transactions, a $10,000 withdrawal would have likely been noticed.

Alerts can be setup based on dollar amounts so that normal transactions aren't communicated. And, it doesn't require the monitoring person from having any access to the accounts, assuming the parent does the setup.
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likegarden wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:56 pm For years every few months we got Emails from a scammer who lists Key-Bank. That Email states that Key Bank has problems with my account and they need to talk about that. But since we do not have Key-Bank accounts, I deleted that Email. But recently I wrote the person back, that we do not have Key Bank accounts.

So now we got another Email in layout similar to the Key Bank Email. (they did not know how to spell), this time from "Welmart" <sendername@charter.net> stating Fraud Protection Services : Dear Walamrt Customer, etc. my card (did not show which credit card) was used for 2 Walmart E-Gifts, and they Declined.
They asked : Do you recognize each transaction listed above? and asked to press YES or NO.
We expect to get these scam Emails continuously, but will delete them.
That was a mistake. Marking the email SPAM, without opening it (since you don't have Key Bank accounts) is the right action to take. Your action merely allowed the scammer to mark your email address with a code akin to "fresh meat". This means your email address will fetch more money when it's sold to others, and will result in more activity in the future, as you noted. NEVER RESPOND.
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Barsoom wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:21 am Also, I just received the latest version of the Nigerian Prince scam.
Email Subject: From Mr. Fitzpatrick D. Moore

-B
From the email subject you knew it was SPAM. Don't open it. Did you know that you opening the email is sent back as an "action"? You then are marked as "likely to open" by the scammer for future activity?
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RickBoglehead wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 10:14 am
66Sally wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 9:28 pm Very stressful evening - my mom called to say she had a very busy day. Someone called her from America Express ( a very helpful, nice fellow) who said that someone from China has hacked her AE account and her bank account. This helpful fellow told her to protect her money by buying $6,000 in gift cards to protect her AE account and $4,000 in gift cards to protect her bank account. She needed to do this within the next three hours. He remained on her cell phone while she bought the gift cards. She read the scratch off numbers from the purchased gift cards in the parking lot of the stores. $10,000 gone. All the gift cards now have zero balances. I checked. My father just died in Feb 2021. I hope there is a special place reserved in H$@## for these scammers.
Very sad.

This is why as parents age the children should make an attempt at some point to get the parents to agree to let them monitor financial transactions. Very delicate subject, and met with resistance and indignation (especially on this forum), but this is an example of where if the child got alerts for bank account and/or credit card transactions, a $10,000 withdrawal would have likely been noticed.

Alerts can be setup based on dollar amounts so that normal transactions aren't communicated. And, it doesn't require the monitoring person from having any access to the accounts, assuming the parent does the setup.
While I agree with you're advice, my limited experience with alerts set up on our checking account hasn't been good. I set up an alert for transactions above $5k, and they go out via both text & emails. Unfortunately the alert is issued the following day. By then in 66Sally's example the damage would have been done.
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Am not sure if this is legitimate or not.

Received a physically mailed card from BCBSsettlement.com, a Blue Cross Blue Shield Settlement org, stating that BCBS overcharged for some period ($2.7 BILLION), and saying I could join the group being represented by this team so I could get what's coming to me! Going online one has to enter personal information just to get a form, and I am reluctant to be added to a junk mail list (at the very least).

If this is legit, and they know I had BCBS for part of that period, why do I need to respond? I received something like this decades ago regarding working with asbestos claims, didn't join that one either. Now, a bit older and not much smarter (but a little bit), I am inclined just to throw this away, as I am skeptical to say the least.

Any insight would be appreciated, otherwise this card goes into the recycle bin in a day or so.
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Colorado Guy wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 12:43 pm Am not sure if this is legitimate or not.

Received a physically mailed card from BCBSsettlement.com, a Blue Cross Blue Shield Settlement org, stating that BCBS overcharged for some period ($2.7 BILLION), and saying I could join the group being represented by this team so I could get what's coming to me! Going online one has to enter personal information just to get a form, and I am reluctant to be added to a junk mail list (at the very least).

If this is legit, and they know I had BCBS for part of that period, why do I need to respond? I received something like this decades ago regarding working with asbestos claims, didn't join that one either. Now, a bit older and not much smarter (but a little bit), I am inclined just to throw this away, as I am skeptical to say the least.

Any insight would be appreciated, otherwise this card goes into the recycle bin in a day or so.
It is 100% legitimate.

If you never respond to be part of the class, you'll receive nothing.

viewtopic.php?t=346367

https://www.bcbssettlement.com/
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Colorado Guy wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 12:43 pm Am not sure if this is legitimate or not.

Received a physically mailed card from BCBSsettlement.com, a Blue Cross Blue Shield Settlement org, stating that BCBS overcharged for some period ($2.7 BILLION), and saying I could join the group being represented by this team so I could get what's coming to me! Going online one has to enter personal information just to get a form, and I am reluctant to be added to a junk mail list (at the very least).

If this is legit, and they know I had BCBS for part of that period, why do I need to respond? I received something like this decades ago regarding working with asbestos claims, didn't join that one either. Now, a bit older and not much smarter (but a little bit), I am inclined just to throw this away, as I am skeptical to say the least.

Any insight would be appreciated, otherwise this card goes into the recycle bin in a day or so.
Its legit if you search online. My wife received the same card but I believe she's not eligible as her plan was a government plan. I thought this was common for lawsuit settlements where the less people who claim means more money for the lawyers and other claimants depending how the settlement rules were crafted?

https://www.nj.com/news/2021/04/heres-h ... ement.html
https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/news/ ... c16a9bbf7d
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RickBoglehead wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 12:49 pm
Colorado Guy wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 12:43 pm Am not sure if this is legitimate or not.

Received a physically mailed card from BCBSsettlement.com, a Blue Cross Blue Shield Settlement org, stating that BCBS overcharged for some period ($2.7 BILLION), and saying I could join the group being represented by this team so I could get what's coming to me! Going online one has to enter personal information just to get a form, and I am reluctant to be added to a junk mail list (at the very least).

If this is legit, and they know I had BCBS for part of that period, why do I need to respond? I received something like this decades ago regarding working with asbestos claims, didn't join that one either. Now, a bit older and not much smarter (but a little bit), I am inclined just to throw this away, as I am skeptical to say the least.

Any insight would be appreciated, otherwise this card goes into the recycle bin in a day or so.
It is 100% legitimate.

If you never respond to be part of the class, you'll receive nothing.

viewtopic.php?t=346367

https://www.bcbssettlement.com/
Fast response, thank you! And color me surprised! :shock: After reading the referenced thread, I am pondering whether to file an application and then wait anxiously for my (potential) $ 0.02 reimbursement! :oops:
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RickBoglehead wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 12:49 pm
Colorado Guy wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 12:43 pm Am not sure if this is legitimate or not.

Received a physically mailed card from BCBSsettlement.com, a Blue Cross Blue Shield Settlement org, stating that BCBS overcharged for some period ($2.7 BILLION), and saying I could join the group being represented by this team so I could get what's coming to me! Going online one has to enter personal information just to get a form, and I am reluctant to be added to a junk mail list (at the very least).

If this is legit, and they know I had BCBS for part of that period, why do I need to respond? I received something like this decades ago regarding working with asbestos claims, didn't join that one either. Now, a bit older and not much smarter (but a little bit), I am inclined just to throw this away, as I am skeptical to say the least.

Any insight would be appreciated, otherwise this card goes into the recycle bin in a day or so.
It is 100% legitimate.

If you never respond to be part of the class, you'll receive nothing.

viewtopic.php?t=346367

https://www.bcbssettlement.com/
IMO, usually the only people that receive anything meaningful in most of these lawsuits, are the lawyers.
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Colorado Guy wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 1:03 pm
Fast response, thank you! And color me surprised! :shock: After reading the referenced thread, I am pondering whether to file an application and then wait anxiously for my (potential) $ 0.02 reimbursement! :oops:
RetiredAL wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 1:47 pm IMO, usually the only people that receive anything meaningful in most of these lawsuits, are the lawyers.
I won't disagree that these lawsuits enrich lawyers, and that many should not be even brought(?).

Here's a list of my settlements since 2004, and it is not complete. I also received hundreds of dollars in several class action lawsuits over stocks (I remember an AOL one), and at least one over airplane ticket prices. Couldn't find them in a quick Quicken search...

Meaningful? $55.53 for 15 minutes work. $98.72? You gotta pay to play.

Note - I have never filed in a class action lawsuit that I was not in the class, which is easy for people to do, as many don't require proof.

2/2004 - computer CD class action - $13.86
12/2009 - Memory class action - $11.31
5/2011 - riding mower class action - $21.84
5/2011 - lawnmower class action - $10.19
12/2011 - foreign transaction fees class action - $18.04
8/2016 - Kasha class action - $55.53
2/2017 - Verizon Wireless class action - $13.53
4/2019 - Verizon Wireless class action (additional payment) - $2.87
8/2019 - Magazine class action - $98.72
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RickBoglehead wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 5:02 pm
Colorado Guy wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 1:03 pm
Fast response, thank you! And color me surprised! :shock: After reading the referenced thread, I am pondering whether to file an application and then wait anxiously for my (potential) $ 0.02 reimbursement! :oops:
RetiredAL wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 1:47 pm IMO, usually the only people that receive anything meaningful in most of these lawsuits, are the lawyers.
I won't disagree that these lawsuits enrich lawyers, and that many should not be even brought(?).

Here's a list of my settlements since 2004, and it is not complete. I also received hundreds of dollars in several class action lawsuits over stocks (I remember an AOL one), and at least one over airplane ticket prices. Couldn't find them in a quick Quicken search...

Meaningful? $55.53 for 15 minutes work. $98.72? You gotta pay to play.

Note - I have never filed in a class action lawsuit that I was not in the class, which is easy for people to do, as many don't require proof.

2/2004 - computer CD class action - $13.86
12/2009 - Memory class action - $11.31
5/2011 - riding mower class action - $21.84
5/2011 - lawnmower class action - $10.19
12/2011 - foreign transaction fees class action - $18.04
8/2016 - Kasha class action - $55.53
2/2017 - Verizon Wireless class action - $13.53
4/2019 - Verizon Wireless class action (additional payment) - $2.87
8/2019 - Magazine class action - $98.72
Glad to hear you think you got some value from them.

My experience has been mostly around stock valuation shakedowns, mostly relating my Dad's Trust's Brokerage Account. It used to be a managed account, so almost all stocks were qty 5 to 30 each for a couple dozen symbols. I don't think that in the 10 years I oversaw it, that it never once had a 50 share lot. So when I get a notice that there is a proposed settlement relating to "T" for up to 20 cents a share, and the account once held 20 shares of "T", I don't get very excited and the notice gets placed in the circular file.

One time years ago, I did nibble over a Samsung C/A for up to something around $40 per phone. We had 2. A few years later, we received a settlement check for around $10 total. IMO, the whole racket is near to being a scam in itself.

So today, just say no thanks. Maybe one will come along that's worth more than my effort needed to research the data needed for filing, but I'm not holding my breath.

Speaking of real scams, we got one of those IRS ENFORCEMENT calls today. A real person for once, but the heavy foreign accent is a give-away.
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One thing I personally grateful about relating to scams against elder people - I no long worry about my Dad.

When my elder Dad went to Assisted Living, he chose not to move his phone. I get a copy of any left messages. Being in Assisted, he had no need for his checkbook or credit cards. For his E-mail, I wrote spam filter rules that blocked some from showing in his in-box, but there were always leakers. But I took his accounts book, so he couldn't get confused into trying to logon to something. Today, he no longer even checks his e-mail - that is good. When I visit him, I read to him anything important.

I daily review his E-mail and at least once a week he still get a bank account alert, Amazon alert, or similar purporting to be an account alert. Up to about a year ago, he still checked his e-mail and was getting 5 to 10 of these each week. He generally opened these messages, so the scammers got notice they had a live address. For the last year, I totally ignore them and delete them, and the number has dropped off considerably. But that decline took a long time to happen. Once on someone's list, that list gets recycled back around and around.

It's hard so see a parent decline, but it's good to know he's protected from external abusers.

My empathy goes out to the child whose mother got scammed out of $20K. It's sad that we have to worry about our elders this way.
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RetiredAL wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 6:45 pm

Glad to hear you think you got some value from them.

My experience has been mostly around stock valuation shakedowns, mostly relating my Dad's Trust's Brokerage Account. It used to be a managed account, so almost all stocks were qty 5 to 30 each for a couple dozen symbols. I don't think that in the 10 years I oversaw it, that it never once had a 50 share lot. So when I get a notice that there is a proposed settlement relating to "T" for up to 20 cents a share, and the account once held 20 shares of "T", I don't get very excited and the notice gets placed in the circular file.

One time years ago, I did nibble over a Samsung C/A for up to something around $40 per phone. We had 2. A few years later, we received a settlement check for around $10 total. IMO, the whole racket is near to being a scam in itself.

So today, just say no thanks. Maybe one will come along that's worth more than my effort needed to research the data needed for filing, but I'm not holding my breath.

Speaking of real scams, we got one of those IRS ENFORCEMENT calls today. A real person for once, but the heavy foreign accent is a give-away.
Speaking of "stock valuation shakedowns", in 2016 I filed as a "BP Fair Fund" claimant based on a 200 share position. I was surprised 2 years later when I received a check for $1322. :moneybag
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neilpilot wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 7:41 am
RetiredAL wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 6:45 pm

Glad to hear you think you got some value from them.

My experience has been mostly around stock valuation shakedowns, mostly relating my Dad's Trust's Brokerage Account. It used to be a managed account, so almost all stocks were qty 5 to 30 each for a couple dozen symbols. I don't think that in the 10 years I oversaw it, that it never once had a 50 share lot. So when I get a notice that there is a proposed settlement relating to "T" for up to 20 cents a share, and the account once held 20 shares of "T", I don't get very excited and the notice gets placed in the circular file.

One time years ago, I did nibble over a Samsung C/A for up to something around $40 per phone. We had 2. A few years later, we received a settlement check for around $10 total. IMO, the whole racket is near to being a scam in itself.

So today, just say no thanks. Maybe one will come along that's worth more than my effort needed to research the data needed for filing, but I'm not holding my breath.

Speaking of real scams, we got one of those IRS ENFORCEMENT calls today. A real person for once, but the heavy foreign accent is a give-away.
Speaking of "stock valuation shakedowns", in 2016 I filed as a "BP Fair Fund" claimant based on a 200 share position. I was surprised 2 years later when I received a check for $1322. :moneybag
Good for you!

I see this as an unusual case. It was filed by the SEC protecting investors who were mislead (scammed?) by company statements and was settled for $500+ BILLION. It's not the typical of what I call a "shakedown lawsuit", where no fault was admitted/assigned, where the filing lawyers are doing it mostly for their profit, and the company pays a negotiated settlement to just make it go away".
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RetiredAL wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 6:45 pm Speaking of real scams, we got one of those IRS ENFORCEMENT calls today. A real person for once, but the heavy foreign accent is a give-away.
The fact that you got a call at all was a dead giveaway, the IRS doesn’t call people on the telephone.
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"David" from Publishers Clearing House called and said we won! He just needed us to call back with some our information...

But saw the real winner from Spokane, WA on a commercial a couple of weeks ago...
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