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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by fantasytensai » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:34 am

2Birds1Stone wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:25 am
fantasytensai wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:25 am
Anyone else buying today, or trying to avoid catching a falling knife?
Waiting for the bottom ;)
I think I'm going to DCA my buying in, thinking of doing 10k, maybe spread out between 3-4 buy ins.

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Post by parsi1 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:35 am

220volt wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:04 pm
And judging by the speed of the market these days, it does make one wonder how quickly could 9-year gains be completely wiped out. In few weeks of this, perhaps? Seems that every correction comes on stronger and faster.
true +++1

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Post by Engineer250 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:41 am

EyeYield wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:30 am
Engineer250 wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:08 pm
I'm deeply amused that folks on this thread seem to view this thread like the majority of folks view the stock market - paying too much attention to the noise. See these two posts and similar:
EyeYield wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:22 pm
I've learned a lot about many of the posters in this thread over the past couple of days. They are expert on identifying daily market movements, explaining why they moved and how to best react to those movements.

Contrary to one of Jack Bogle's most popular memes, it seems "everybody knows everything". :annoyed
You quoted me in your response, but I don't see any correlation between your post and mine. I never mentioned how many responders bought, sold or did nothing. I did nothing and as your research shows, most did nothing also. Great.
How am I paying too much attention to the noise, unless it's the noise from this thread?
Care to elaborate?

My response had to do with the 7 plus pages over 1 plus days due to a one day drop and the responses from many, not most, Bogleheads about the reasons: whether this is a blip or not, if this will continue, are international and bonds truly diversifiers, questioning Boglehead principles, jobs report, wages rose, rate hikes, the economy too not, treasury yields, cash, xxx month/day moving averages, flash crash, Eagles, buying the dip, after hours prices, futures, valuations, and many more.
Yes, this was noise and I was momentarily annoyed by it. So?
Maybe it was out of sync with the general lightheartedness of this thread and that offended you? Sorry.
Perhaps I misunderstood the intent of your post. If I did i apologize.
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by RRAAYY3 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:44 am

put more cash into my e-fund [bought a ton last week, need to get back to 1 year expenses], but if this continues mañana I just may be forced to buy. it's all nonsense - economy is still humming along and long term things look "good". I like my e-fund at 1 year expenses, but I'm willing to go as low as 6months worth if this trend continues.

this is all robo-nonsense and volatility ETFs going haywire [VIX trading - ridiculous]

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Post by ImmigrantSaver » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:48 am

fantasytensai wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:25 am
Anyone else buying today, or trying to avoid catching a falling knife?
I already bought my February allocation on Friday and then a bit extra on Monday. So sitting tight till March when coincidentally my bonus should get through so I'll have a bigger amount to put in. Will use that to rebalance as well as adding to apt downpayment portion. I just hope I don't get spooked and keep all of it in cash.

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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by RRAAYY3 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:52 am

perspective check:

TOTAL US: back at 12/14/17 valuations
TOTAL INT/L: back at 12/11/17 valuations

Sky, continue falling.

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Post by WhiteMaxima » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:59 am

10 year treasure yield is already 2.87%. Close to 3.0%. Wait. Be patient.

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Post by RRAAYY3 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:11 pm

WhiteMaxima wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:59 am
10 year treasure yield is already 2.87%. Close to 3.0%. Wait. Be patient.
I’ve seen this mentioned before - does it historically signal another sell off?

Ive been so tempted to keep buying buying that I need to force myself to put money into actual savings

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Post by WhiteMaxima » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:18 pm

RRAAYY3 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:11 pm
WhiteMaxima wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:59 am
10 year treasure yield is already 2.87%. Close to 3.0%. Wait. Be patient.
I’ve seen this mentioned before - does it historically signal another sell off?

Ive been so tempted to keep buying buying that I need to force myself to put money into actual savings
10 year treasure is the most secured goverment backed note. A golden standard. Once it reached 3.0% or even higher to 3.5%, equity is less attractive to investors. Why would investor take a risk to by equity with PE 27? Unless corporate profit up or PE reduction.

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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by H-Town » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:21 pm

RRAAYY3 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:52 am
perspective check:

TOTAL US: back at 12/14/17 valuations
TOTAL INT/L: back at 12/11/17 valuations

Sky, continue falling.
My perspective: I'm fortunate to get a nice bump of salary in January, I put away the entire raise, prorated throughout the year. It comes at the time when stocks become cheaper. Also, a good reminder of good ol' market valuation. Some folks are so hyped with last year 22% growth and think that this time it's different. No, it is not different. I would be happy to take 4-6% growth.

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Post by Da5id » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:24 pm

WhiteMaxima wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:18 pm
RRAAYY3 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:11 pm
WhiteMaxima wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:59 am
10 year treasure yield is already 2.87%. Close to 3.0%. Wait. Be patient.
I’ve seen this mentioned before - does it historically signal another sell off?

Ive been so tempted to keep buying buying that I need to force myself to put money into actual savings
10 year treasure is the most secured goverment backed note. A golden standard. Once it reached 3.0% or even higher to 3.5%, equity is less attractive to investors. Why would investor take a risk to by equity with PE 27? Unless corporate profit up or PE reduction.
So the theory is that the transition from 2.99% to 3% will cause something to happen? Hmm.

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Post by WhiteMaxima » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:30 pm

Unless corporate up their profit. They do borrow money at a cost. Wage is up too. How can they up profit? Now everything is undergo repricing. So be patient.
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by TSquare » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:32 pm

Leif wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:46 pm
TSquare wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:34 pm
Dead cat bounce! Hang on folks!
Looks like the cat bounced about 3:15 ET today. But who knows, it may have 8 additional lives.
Please keep your arms and legs inside the ride vehicle at all times!

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Post by Sockpuppet » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:35 pm

fantasytensai wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:25 am
Anyone else buying today, or trying to avoid catching a falling knife?
I cashed out my 401K and went all in on bitcoin because I can't handle this markets swings.

...

....

....

Alright, I am actually doing nothing.

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Post by saltycaper » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:41 pm

It's okay. The buyers went to lunch. They'll be back before close.
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by RRAAYY3 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:45 pm

looks pretty clear equities will continue to fall as interest continues to rise ... Cash / CDs looking somewhat more attractive

nice time to rebuild my e-fund and see where we are at in a month or so ... or i'll just buy tomorrow. I really can't help myself from buying - at least its mutual fund shares and not "things"

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Post by staythecourse » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:49 pm

I love this thread it is the ONLY way I even know what is going on in the financial markets on a day to day.

Sometimes I wish there was a word cloud on this site to see what the most often discussed words are on any given day.

Good luck.
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Post by WhiteMaxima » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:57 pm

the problem is we don't know how high and how quick this round of interest hike will go (short term) and who is buying our 10 year treasure at 2.8% yield. Dollar is getting lower (good for export).

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Post by Bacchus01 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:57 pm

Finally. I can TLH a little bit. Now my newest buy is way back in the second week of November. Oh the horro.

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Post by bligh » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:00 pm

Looks like this cluster of volatility is going to take us all the way into a full correction. Maybe more.

I look forward to being able to buy the stocks cheaper. For purely psychological reasons, if we are going to have 5% returns over the next 10 years, I prefer they are a steady 5% each year, instead of a 20% returns a few years followed by a crash. The end result is the same, but the journey is a lot less exciting.

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Post by saltycaper » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:20 pm

Buyers are starting to come back from the sushi bar. The sushi was exceptional.
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Post by Da5id » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:27 pm

On the positive side, CAPE10 has now fallen to 31.77, down a few points. The future looks brighter every day it falls! (joking, mostly)

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Post by rick2427 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:32 pm

We retired in June, 2017 and am so glad we changed AA from 90/10 to 60/32/8.
Just watching the market drop.....glad to have 3 years' living expenses in cash.
Will rebalance by selling bonds and buying stocks when the rebalance bands are breached.
Cheers. :sharebeer

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Post by inbox788 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:33 pm

TSquare wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:32 pm
Leif wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:46 pm
TSquare wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:34 pm
Dead cat bounce! Hang on folks!
Looks like the cat bounced about 3:15 ET today. But who knows, it may have 8 additional lives.
Please keep your arms and legs inside the ride vehicle at all times!
Chartists have wonder descriptions, but their predictive value is only 100% in hindsight. We are seeing what looks like a dead cat bounce, which has bearish implications.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deadcatbounce.asp

But this is really just the second bottom of a double bottom, which has bullish implications.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deadcatbounce.asp

So which is it? Anyone?

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Post by oldcomputerguy » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:34 pm

ofcmetz wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:51 am
Looks like we will get to the correction range today possibly.
The most recent market peak I could find for the S&P 500 was on January 26, when it closed at 2,872.87. A correction is ten percent or more, so 10% off that peak would be 2,585.58. As of 1:17 PM, the S&P is at 2,637.81, lacking only around 52 points to hit correction territory.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled program...
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by parsi1 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:34 pm

Sockpuppet wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:35 pm
fantasytensai wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:25 am
Anyone else buying today, or trying to avoid catching a falling knife?
I cashed out my 401K and went all in on bitcoin because I can't handle this markets swings.

...

....

....

Alright, I am actually doing nothing.
I am planning on cashing my 401K as soon as this market hit the bottom. you can call it market timing but I don't care.

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Post by RetireBy55 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:35 pm

We're within a year of retiring, so this really is not so great..but, I'm buying on the dips also. Just put in my first order for PrimeCap Core today.

Fundamentals are way too strong - this IMHO is all over-reacting by the robots to every last little data point change, NOT the mom and pop investors dumping their stocks.

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Post by totesmagotes » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:36 pm

inbox788 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:33 pm
TSquare wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:32 pm
Leif wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:46 pm
TSquare wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:34 pm
Dead cat bounce! Hang on folks!
Looks like the cat bounced about 3:15 ET today. But who knows, it may have 8 additional lives.
Please keep your arms and legs inside the ride vehicle at all times!
Chartists have wonder descriptions, but their predictive value is only 100% in hindsight. We are seeing what looks like a dead cat bounce, which has bearish implications.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deadcatbounce.asp

But this is really just the second bottom of a double bottom, which has bullish implications.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deadcatbounce.asp

So which is it? Anyone?
Hold on -- I'll tell you in 6 months.

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Post by jrbdmb » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:49 pm

lostdog wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:45 pm
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/xiv-t ... 2018-02-06

Title
"XIV trader: ‘I’ve lost $4 million, 3 years of work and other people’s money"

"The VelocityShares Daily Inverse VIX Short Term ETN XIV, -92.64% was created to give traders an opportunity to bet against a rise in volatility — the calmer the markets, the more profitable the trade. And it’s been one of the best plays out there amid the bull’s long and steady assault on new highs.

All that changed, however, when the stock market began to seriously flame out last week."
Wow. From $16.68 on 02-08-16 to $144.70 on 01-22-18 to $125.55 on 01-31-18 to $5.61 currently. I wonder how many were lucky enough to sell at the very top? (Note I didn't say "smart enough." :happy )
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Post by alfaspider » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:51 pm

220volt wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:04 pm
They're are calling leveraged ETF's weapons of mass destruction and a major cause of these flash crashes and rallies.
https://youtu.be/O2fDQDwdAC4

And judging by the speed of the market these days, it does make one wonder how quickly could 9-year gains be completely wiped out. In few weeks of this, perhaps? Seems that every correction comes on stronger and faster.
I'm a firm believer that nobody knows nothin, but a drop to 2009 levels seems fantastically unlikely in absence of some underlying economic calamity.

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Post by Leif » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:56 pm

I sold off some IRA stock funds at the beginning of the year. As the market climbed I was thinking, wow what unfortunate timing to sell. Now those funds are below what I sold them at. If they continue to drop I will buy them back.

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Post by Bacchus01 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:02 pm

parsi1 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:34 pm
Sockpuppet wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:35 pm
fantasytensai wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:25 am
Anyone else buying today, or trying to avoid catching a falling knife?
I cashed out my 401K and went all in on bitcoin because I can't handle this markets swings.

...

....

....

Alright, I am actually doing nothing.
I am planning on cashing my 401K as soon as this market hit the bottom. you can call it market timing but I don't care.
When will that be? Would you let me know?

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Post by retiringwhen » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:15 pm

alfaspider wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:51 pm
I'm a firm believer that nobody knows nothin, but a drop to 2009 levels seems fantastically unlikely in absence of some underlying economic calamity.
at 2pm EST on 2/8/17 - Current trailing PE for S&P500 is about 24.5 and the lowest it has been since 1990 is just below 15 (that is also near the historical mean going way back). I would call that a good bottom just looking at valuations vs. fundamentals.... In other words, a sharp reversion to the mean. I am not saying it could go that low, just that is reasonable guesstimate on what a blood bath could look like while the economy hums along.....

That would put that S&P500 at approximately 1575 to be at a 15 trailing PE. That would also take the dividend yield on the index from 1.96% to 3.25%

someone earlier said 3% treasuries were some form of magic talisman. Hmm, maybe I am on to something (a 3% yield on S&P500 is about 1700)

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Post by alfaspider » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:24 pm

retiringwhen wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:15 pm
alfaspider wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:51 pm
I'm a firm believer that nobody knows nothin, but a drop to 2009 levels seems fantastically unlikely in absence of some underlying economic calamity.
at 2pm EST on 2/8/17 - Current trailing PE for S&P500 is about 24.5 and the lowest it has been since 1990 is just below 15 (that is also near the historical mean going way back). I would call that a good bottom just looking at valuations vs. fundamentals.... In other words, a sharp reversion to the mean. I am not saying it could go that low, just that is reasonable guesstimate on what a blood bath could look like while the economy hums along.....

That would put that S&P500 at approximately 1575 to be at a 15 trailing PE. That would also take the dividend yield on the index from 1.96% to 3.25%

someone earlier said 3% treasuries were some form of magic talisman. Hmm, maybe I am on to something (a 3% yield on S&P500 is about 1700)
The last time we saw a PE of around 15, we had a clear external catalyst (i.e. a financial crisis). Prior to that, we had a lackluster economy in the early 90s. Here, there is no such catalyst. The economic news is good. Even if PEs did fall to 15, the market would still be above where it was 9 years ago as earnings have improved significantly.

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Post by retiringwhen » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:30 pm

alfaspider wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:24 pm
retiringwhen wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:15 pm
alfaspider wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:51 pm
I'm a firm believer that nobody knows nothin, but a drop to 2009 levels seems fantastically unlikely in absence of some underlying economic calamity.
at 2pm EST on 2/8/17 - Current trailing PE for S&P500 is about 24.5 and the lowest it has been since 1990 is just below 15 (that is also near the historical mean going way back). I would call that a good bottom just looking at valuations vs. fundamentals.... In other words, a sharp reversion to the mean. I am not saying it could go that low, just that is reasonable guesstimate on what a blood bath could look like while the economy hums along.....

That would put that S&P500 at approximately 1575 to be at a 15 trailing PE. That would also take the dividend yield on the index from 1.96% to 3.25%

someone earlier said 3% treasuries were some form of magic talisman. Hmm, maybe I am on to something (a 3% yield on S&P500 is about 1700)
The last time we saw a PE of around 15, we had a clear external catalyst (i.e. a financial crisis). Here, there is no such catalyst. The economic news is good. Even if PEs did fall to 15, the market would still be above where it was 9 years ago as earnings have improved significantly.
I concur fundamentals matter. The bottom by my read was 797 in 2009, and the had PE ratios over 120 at the time. in other words, fundamentals were true black swan bad!!!! (and they settled back to 20 pretty quickly)

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Post by RRAAYY3 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:31 pm

so ... when are we market timing? today? tomorrow?

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Post by parsi1 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:46 pm

Once more international is dropping the same or more than US

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Post by corn18 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:50 pm

RRAAYY3 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:31 pm
so ... when are we market timing? today? tomorrow?
I will be in about 3 weeks when my RSU's vest and the bonus hits. Just like every year, I will buy $100k of whatever I need to be at 60/40. Although I did up my international target to 20%.

If the market's going to be fickle, I'd prefer it happen before the $100k goes in vs. after.

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Post by saltycaper » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:59 pm

saltycaper wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:41 pm
It's okay. The buyers went to lunch. They'll be back before close.
saltycaper wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:20 pm
Buyers are starting to come back from the sushi bar. The sushi was exceptional.
Buyers rushing to exits as they discover the sushi tasted great but actually was spoiled.
Quod vitae sectabor iter?

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Post by H-Town » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:59 pm

Don't be that guy...
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by harvestbook » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:59 pm

Drops are fine with me. This is what we get paid for. This is the job.
I'm not smart enough to know, and I can't afford to guess.

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Post by MrNewEngland » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:00 pm

parsi1 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:46 pm
Once more international is dropping the same or more than US
Why is that?

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Post by EyeYield » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:13 pm

Engineer250 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:41 am
EyeYield wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:30 am
Engineer250 wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:08 pm
I'm deeply amused that folks on this thread seem to view this thread like the majority of folks view the stock market - paying too much attention to the noise. See these two posts and similar:
EyeYield wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:22 pm
I've learned a lot about many of the posters in this thread over the past couple of days. They are expert on identifying daily market movements, explaining why they moved and how to best react to those movements.

Contrary to one of Jack Bogle's most popular memes, it seems "everybody knows everything". :annoyed
You quoted me in your response, but I don't see any correlation between your post and mine. I never mentioned how many responders bought, sold or did nothing. I did nothing and as your research shows, most did nothing also. Great.
How am I paying too much attention to the noise, unless it's the noise from this thread?
Care to elaborate?

My response had to do with the 7 plus pages over 1 plus days due to a one day drop and the responses from many, not most, Bogleheads about the reasons: whether this is a blip or not, if this will continue, are international and bonds truly diversifiers, questioning Boglehead principles, jobs report, wages rose, rate hikes, the economy too not, treasury yields, cash, xxx month/day moving averages, flash crash, Eagles, buying the dip, after hours prices, futures, valuations, and many more.
Yes, this was noise and I was momentarily annoyed by it. So?
Maybe it was out of sync with the general lightheartedness of this thread and that offended you? Sorry.
Perhaps I misunderstood the intent of your post. If I did i apologize.
Thanks, no worries. Facetiousness, especially my facetiousness, can be one of the hardest emotions to convey in cyberspace.
I'll try to work on that with my behavioral neurologist. ;-)
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by RRAAYY3 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:15 pm

MrNewEngland wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:00 pm
parsi1 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:46 pm
Once more international is dropping the same or more than US
Why is that?
because I've put in like 10K over the last 2 weeks - oh well, buy more i guess

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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by AnalogKid22 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:28 pm

RRAAYY3 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:15 pm
MrNewEngland wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:00 pm
parsi1 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:46 pm
Once more international is dropping the same or more than US
Why is that?
because I've put in like 10K over the last 2 weeks - oh well, buy more i guess
Why not just set up auto contributions from your bank for every week, 2 weeks, a month, or whatever your preference? Sometimes you buy high, sometimes you buy low, but your allocated contributions are made without you having to guess.

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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by RRAAYY3 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:29 pm

AnalogKid22 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:28 pm
RRAAYY3 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:15 pm
MrNewEngland wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:00 pm
parsi1 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:46 pm
Once more international is dropping the same or more than US
Why is that?
because I've put in like 10K over the last 2 weeks - oh well, buy more i guess
Why not just set up auto contributions from your bank for every week, 2 weeks, a month, or whatever your preference? Sometimes you buy high, sometimes you buy low, but your allocated contributions are made without you having to guess.
i do ... not worried, amused/annoyed

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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by cfs » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:30 pm

"Once more international is dropping the same or more than US"

We don't have to go too far back, investing aficionados can check to see what happened to the internationals during the financial markets debacle aka the Great Recession.

Your money, your portfolio, your decision . . . but my recommendation is DO NOT SELL.

Thanks for reading ~cfs~
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by VictoriaF » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:38 pm

Leif wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:46 pm
TSquare wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:34 pm
Dead cat bounce! Hang on folks!
Looks like the cat bounced about 3:15 ET today. But who knows, it may have 8 additional lives.
Cat videos have thousands of lives.

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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by rerod » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:39 pm

Burn baby BURN!

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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by Cycle » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:41 pm

quantAndHold wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:48 pm
The drop is entirely my fault. I’ve been DCAing a large sum into stocks over the last year. I just moved the last chunk into the stock market last week. :oops:
Another sample to add to the stats on why DCA works on our psyche but not for our final balance. Seems like the jury is against DCA, but it makes sense to me... Spread it out

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