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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by Browser » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:30 pm

House Blend wrote:Bump.

What are you bumping, anyway? The thread had already become reactivated. Are you a serial bumper, or a pile-on bumper?
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by protagonist » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:42 pm

How big is the drop anyway?

Forgive my laziness. I haven't checked the market since 2009. I find out about it from you guys, and when I log into Fidelity to do something in my account it pops up.

Why bother? (laughing)

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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by Noobvestor » Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:47 am

Well, US stocks are down relative to international now, so I guess there's that?
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by LittleD » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:01 am

Noobvestor wrote:Well, US stocks are down relative to international now, so I guess there's that?



Well, if your 50/50% in U.S. & International and 50/50% in large cap & small/medium cap why worry.
Just stick with rebalanced allocations and check things once per year.

Easy, squeezy.

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Post by Noobvestor » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:56 pm

LittleD wrote:
Noobvestor wrote:Well, US stocks are down relative to international now, so I guess there's that?



Well, if your 50/50% in U.S. & International and 50/50% in large cap & small/medium cap why worry.
Just stick with rebalanced allocations and check things once per year.

Easy, squeezy.


It really is easy :greedy

I love my allocation! I really do. I feel super agnostic despite my tilts. International up or down? Small losing to or beating large? Doesn't matter! :twisted:
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by Browser » Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:53 pm

I love my allocation! I really do. I feel super agnostic despite my tilts. International up or down? Small losing to or beating large? Doesn't matter

LOVE my allocation???? Wow, you need to get out more. It may not be the best approach to investing to become emotionally attached to your allocation. But, if you don't get out much I guess it's better than nothing. Breaking up is hard to do, hard to do, hard to do....la,la,la. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by kolea » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:33 pm

What is the point of this thread anyway?
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by sharpjm » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:56 pm

TwoByFour wrote:What is the point of this thread anyway?

Stay the course.

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Post by tyler_cracker » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:00 am

TwoByFour wrote:What is the point of this thread anyway?


perspective.

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Post by Day9 » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:55 am

I would love to see a 10 year (or long enough) chart of TSM with this threads creation date and the dates when it gets bumped highlighted.
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by Noobvestor » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:39 pm

Browser wrote:
I love my allocation! I really do. I feel super agnostic despite my tilts. International up or down? Small losing to or beating large? Doesn't matter

LOVE my allocation???? Wow, you need to get out more. It may not be the best approach to investing to become emotionally attached to your allocation. But, if you don't get out much I guess it's better than nothing. Breaking up is hard to do, hard to do, hard to do....la,la,la. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


It's a deep but alas platonic love! Really, she helps me stay the course, and that's what matters :) But from one poster with 3K+ posts to another: we probably *both* could get out a bit more :P
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Post by bertilak » Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:27 am

TwoByFour wrote:What is the point of this thread anyway?

To ponder the mechanism by which freefall keeps landing on new highs!

Yes, I know it will end but unfortunately don't know when. My guess is sometime between 10 days to 10 years.
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by autonomy » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:04 pm

Looks like it's time to awaken this thread!

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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by sharpjm » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:09 pm

autonomy wrote:Looks like it's time to awaken this thread!

Finally my payday contributions are the day after a big drop.

Look I'm timing the market!

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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by autonomy » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:11 pm

sharpjm wrote:
autonomy wrote:Looks like it's time to awaken this thread!

Finally my payday contributions are the day after a big drop.

Look I'm timing the market!


Have a cocktail and enjoy the weather!

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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by Hawaiishrimp » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:14 pm

Just sold 50% of my portfolio this morning and cashed in for the "3-funds" portfolio... Not gonna time the market, but 'looks like' i did...

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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by knowsnothing » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:18 pm

I bought in to backdoor for the year today.

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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by backpacker » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:19 pm

Does anyone else think this thread has run its course and should be locked? What is the point of its continued existence? To make sure that we all know whenever the market has dropped -1.1%? As long as we have this thread, we might as well just build a stock ticker onto the main page of the website. :oops:

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Post by autonomy » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:22 pm

backpacker wrote:Does anyone else think this thread has run its course and should be locked? What is the point of its continued existence? To make sure that we all know whenever the market has dropped -1.1%? As long as we have this thread, we might as well just build a stock ticker onto the main page of the website. :oops:


To make sure we don't get FIVE "Geez, the market 'dropped' 1% today, I knew a correction was coming so I'm pulling it all out" threads and to remind people to ignore the noise.

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Post by Tom_T » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:25 pm

backpacker wrote:Does anyone else think this thread has run its course and should be locked? What is the point of its continued existence? To make sure that we all know whenever the market has dropped -1.1%? As long as we have this thread, we might as well just build a stock ticker onto the main page of the website. :oops:

Agreed. I don't see the purpose of a permanently-open thread which gets revived every time the market drops one percent.

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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by backpacker » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:34 pm

autonomy wrote:
backpacker wrote:Does anyone else think this thread has run its course and should be locked? What is the point of its continued existence? To make sure that we all know whenever the market has dropped -1.1%? As long as we have this thread, we might as well just build a stock ticker onto the main page of the website. :oops:


To make sure we don't get FIVE "Geez, the market 'dropped' 1% today, I knew a correction was coming so I'm pulling it all out" threads and to remind people to ignore the noise.


At least starting a new thread requires (a) taking the time to start a new thread and (b) being willing to get laughed at for starting a thread about the market dropping (now) -1.15%. :D

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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by privatefarmer » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:43 pm

I think it's kinda cool to have a thread that goes 4 years back. It's interesting to see everyone's reactions throughout the different market swings.

Wish it went back to '07 though, that'd be a very interesting read...

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Post by nedsaid » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:49 pm

backpacker wrote:Does anyone else think this thread has run its course and should be locked? What is the point of its continued existence? To make sure that we all know whenever the market has dropped -1.1%? As long as we have this thread, we might as well just build a stock ticker onto the main page of the website. :oops:


What? And spoil the "Nedsaid Boglehead U.S. stocks in freefall contrary indicator?" Without fail, a buying opportunity in the U.S. Stock Market is signaled when this thread pops up again. Lock this thread and my future as a market forecaster will be over! No!!
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by backpacker » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:51 pm

nedsaid wrote:
backpacker wrote:Does anyone else think this thread has run its course and should be locked? What is the point of its continued existence? To make sure that we all know whenever the market has dropped -1.1%? As long as we have this thread, we might as well just build a stock ticker onto the main page of the website. :oops:


What? And spoil the "Nedsaid Boglehead U.S. stocks in freefall contrary indicator?" Without fail, a buying opportunity in the U.S. Stock Market is signaled when this thread pops up again. Lock this thread and my future as a market forecaster will be over! No!!


Ha! :D

privatefarmer wrote:I think it's kinda cool to have a thread that goes 4 years back. It's interesting to see everyone's reactions throughout the different market swings.

Wish it went back to '07 though, that'd be a very interesting read...


Take a look at this thread that has become a sticky for posterity.

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Post by dbCooperAir » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:16 pm

backpacker wrote:Does anyone else think this thread has run its course and should be locked? What is the point of its continued existence? To make sure that we all know whenever the market has dropped -1.1%? As long as we have this thread, we might as well just build a stock ticker onto the main page of the website. :oops:


Naw, let it run, lets see how many pages we can make it!

I don't read enough books for the never ending book thread, this is the only way to stoke my thread count :wink:
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by Browser » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:03 pm

I heard that LBill is alive and living in Argentina. He got rich on a short selling play with an obscure dotcom stock that had somehow escaped the massacre in 2000. :moneybag
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Post by nedsaid » Fri May 01, 2015 4:10 pm

Cool!! The US Stock Market was up strongly today! My stock market contrary indicator came through again!!
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Post by Browser » Fri May 01, 2015 4:13 pm

nedsaid wrote:Cool!! The US Stock Market was up strongly today! My stock market contrary indicator came through again!!

Yeh, but it didn't go up as much as it went down yesterday. Slowfall instead of freefall???? Drip, drip, drip.....
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by nedsaid » Fri May 01, 2015 4:16 pm

Browser wrote:
nedsaid wrote:Cool!! The US Stock Market was up strongly today! My stock market contrary indicator came through again!!

Yeh, but it didn't go up as much as it went down yesterday. Slowfall instead of freefall???? Drip, drip, drip.....


FYI, I am not a market timer except in very mild forms. I certainly don't make any kind of investing decisions based on when this thread pops up. I am just having a bit of fun with this.
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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by ddurrett896 » Mon May 18, 2015 2:41 pm

Did someone say freefall?

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Post by WingsFan4Life » Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:05 pm

Is this the beginning of the next correction?

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Post by jpelder » Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:20 pm

WingsFan4Life wrote:Is this the beginning of the next correction?


.68% in a day? That sounds like a little blip to me. It's changed by >5% on at least 30 days in the past 30 years

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Post by JoMoney » Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:40 pm

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/june-g ... 2015-05-29
"June has been the worst month of the year for stocks over the past decade."
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Post by Leeraar » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:22 pm

JoMoney wrote:http://www.marketwatch.com/story/june-gloom-looms-for-the-stock-market-2015-05-29
"June has been the worst month of the year for stocks over the past decade."

Investoporn.

This June has not been the worst month in a decade. All Junes together have been the worst month of other months in the last ten years.

People get paid to generate this stuff?

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Post by LadyGeek » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:27 pm

^^^ Yes, but the correct term is Financial Porn.
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Post by parsi1 » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:39 pm

Did ladyGeek just said financial porn, oh no she should be locked, erased and deleted. :D

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Post by Leeraar » Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:20 pm

Yes, the sky is falling.

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Post by GoldenFinch » Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:48 pm

sharpjm wrote:
TwoByFour wrote:What is the point of this thread anyway?

Stay the course.


Exactly.

I thought that the point of this thread was to resurrect it every time the market has a bad day. :happy If the market really does go into a free fall, we can all remind each other to do the right thing.

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Post by oldzey » Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:56 pm

"Things are more like they are now than they ever were before." -- Dwight D. Eisenhower

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Re: U.S. stocks in freefall

Post by Taylor Larimore » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:02 pm

Bogleheads:

Someday, nobody knows when, the stock market WILL be in "freefall."

The Original Poster (OP) can afterwards claim clairvoyance.

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Post by WingsFan4Life » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:02 am

jpelder wrote:
WingsFan4Life wrote:Is this the beginning of the next correction?


.68% in a day? That sounds like a little blip to me. It's changed by >5% on at least 30 days in the past 30 years


Sorry I should have put "/s" at the end of my question. For some reason, a couple of down weeks made me think of this thread. :beer

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Post by abuss368 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:57 am

Guaranteed: Some day the U.S. financial markets will be in "freefall" yet again!
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Post by sharpjm » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:59 am

This thread is usually silent on the best days. So I figured I would bump today. If things close out without any more movement, nearly all losses from past 5 days will be erased.

Where's the counterpart to this thread, "US Stocks going sky high"???

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Post by goodenyou » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:01 am

sharpjm wrote:This thread is usually silent on the best days. So I figured I would bump today. If things close out without any more movement, nearly all losses from past 5 days will be erased.

Where's the counterpart to this thread, "US Stocks going sky high"???


Just wait a day or two and things will change.
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Post by sharpjm » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:02 am

goodenyou wrote:
sharpjm wrote:This thread is usually silent on the best days. So I figured I would bump today. If things close out without any more movement, nearly all losses from past 5 days will be erased.

Where's the counterpart to this thread, "US Stocks going sky high"???


Just wait a day or two and things will change.

Should I cash out today to lock in my gains before the impending crash?

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Post by Miguelito » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:14 pm

I dunno about freefall, but while I have left our retirement accounts untouched (they represent over 80% of our investments), I did sell off all of my taxable account positions recently and we are 100% cash.

I think this market is going to tread water for a while (as it has all year), and rates will go up so I am not confident on bonds either. I think there is a bigger chance of a 10-15% correction than there is of a 5-10% rally in the next year. Rates are almost surely going up sometime in the next year, so I'll wait it out and see how that pans out before going back in on the taxable side.

Yes, I'm bad and trying to time the market, but for the most part, I'm pretty good in the macro sense.

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Post by Browser » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:52 pm

I just bought more 30-year treasuries today, since they were on sale. Insurance.
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Post by nbseer » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:01 pm

I'm using this time to rollover my old 401k to my Vanguard IRA.. it will take a few weeks during which I'll be out of the market. Will probably keep the transfer in Vanguard MM for a while to see what shakes out. After all these years of the bull.. market seems 'tired'.. losing momentum.. next year and a half with fed slowly raising rates, seems more likely to see a drop than a market that just keeps on rising. Oh well.. guess we'll find out!

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Post by nedsaid » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:58 pm

I notice the market is up pretty strongly today. It seems like the US Stock Market goes down for a few days and this thread pops up again. After the thread runs for a while, the market seems to head right back up! I have joked about this in the past, but this thread has been a pretty good contrary indicator.
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Post by Leeraar » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:03 pm

nedsaid wrote:I notice the market is up pretty strongly today. It seems like the US Stock Market goes down for a few days and this thread pops up again. After the thread runs for a while, the market seems to head right back up! I have joked about this in the past, but this thread has been a pretty good contrary indicator.

Like all such indicators, it will work until it does not.

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