The social aspect can be good and bad. In my early days of full time employment post graduation (college) I was lucky to be in a new group and a dozen or more of us were early to late 20s. We basically grew up together and did a ton of stuff outside of work (softball, rafting, ball games, parties, skiing, etc.). Probably some of the best days of my life and definitely the best days of my working career. We were also quite successful.tibbitts wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:02 pmI do wonder how having no work-related exposure to others for the rest of a career, other than staring at little images in Zoom meetings and reading emails, is affecting how people feel about retirement. On the one hand, there are fewer activities to retire to; on the other hand, ninety percent of the social aspect of work has gone away for many people.rich126 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:25 pm My manager can retire now easily with his finances but he will miss the people and isn't sure he wants to do all of the activities his wife likes doing. In his case I'm guessing he would retire if it was a health thing or if the company has to downsize again in the future.
But moving over the years, I've never achieved that again. Partly due to age. People start having kids, marriages, etc. and they have other priorities/duties in life. Over the next 20 yrs working at various places, I'm made a few friends but nothing like those early years. Where I'm at now, my manager is probably my closest friend since we go back 20 years in my multiple tours at that location.
I generally due work that requires being in the office (government sensitive stuff you can't do at home) but for about 6 weeks I was able to work from home and it was GREAT. Food, tv, radio, etc. And for me the commute is nothing so that didn't even matter. And I didn't miss any of the social aspect since there really wasn't any. A few guys at work who can't shut up and pontificate on everything (and almost nothing work related), politics, etc. are all things I can do without.
Basically other than my manager, there is one other guy I chat with but that is online and can be done anywhere. There is also a team lead I talk to some but most jobs I've had over the last few decades the social aspect isn't that big although it is better than nothing for those alone or who have lost a spouse, etc. I worked with a guy around 80 who had no life outside of work because his wife had passed away years earlier. His daughter was almost retirement age. I don't know if covid has finally driven him to retirement.
This can get into the open office debate. In my experiences in tech, I've never seen a case where that is a productive environment. I took one look at Facebook's work spaces and quickly turned down a second interview. Collaboration is usually a buzz work non-productive people use in order to get others to get their work done, at least in the tech world. Communications can be important but you can do that much better w/o open space.